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User:Mjroots, User:SamHolt6, User:Dumelow: I am amazed at how this article expanded with your work! I have a question, since I am not good with copyright. Can the image in Tehran Times , of the ship in better times, be uploaded? The bottom of the page says "All Content by Mehr News Agency is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.". There is also video and images after the strike (the whole superstructure is gone): , but I can't find licensing for that yet. Vici Vidi (talk) 16:29, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

CC4.0 means we can copy across to Commons. Use {{Mehr}} to attribute the correct licence. Mjroots (talk) 16:35, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Uploaded: pre-accident and burning total loss. Vici Vidi (talk) 05:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that the Iranian support vessel Konarak was struck by a missile during training on 10 May 2020, killing 19 of its crew?"Nineteen sailors have been killed and 15 others injured in an accident involving Iranian naval vessels in the Gulf of Oman, Iran's navy has said. Iranian media reported that the support ship Konarak was hit by a new anti-ship missile being tested by the frigate Jamaran during an exercise on Sunday.""Iranian sailors killed in 'friendly fire' incident". BBC News. 11 May 2020. Retrieved 11 May 2020.
  • ALT1:... that the Iranian support vessel Konarak has since been converted into a combatant vessel armed with anti-ship missiles? "Veel van deze schepen van Hendijanklasse, waaronder dus de Konarak, zijn namelijk door de Iraanse marine recent zwaar bewapend, en voorzien van antischipkruisvluchtwapens." Which translates as "Many of these ships of the Hendijan class, including the Konarak, have recently been heavily armed by the Iranian navy and are equipped with anti-ship cruise missile." from: Karremann, Jaime (11 May 2020). "Raket van Iraans fregat treft Iraanse patrouilleboot: 19 doden" . Marine Schepen (in Dutch). Retrieved 11 May 2020.

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Created by Dumelow (talk), Vici Vidi (talk), Mjroots (talk) and SamHolt6 (talk) . Nominated by Dumelow (talk) at 14:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

• Added image, Mehr news is creative commons. Also File:Konarak whole.jpg could be used. Vici Vidi (talk) 05:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Withdrawing, this article has now been featured on "In the News" and so is ineligible for DYK (Eligibility rule 1e) - Dumelow (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

"Mehr news is creative commons" -- I am not familiar with Mehr but I can't see the CC license anywhere on their front page. What makes you say so? Can you point me to their licensing page please? -- Wesha (talk) 18:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Nearly double the number of crew were killed or injured

It might be worth mentioning how 19 were killed and 15 injured when the boat's compliment is only 15 crew according to the infobox. Where did the other 19 people come from? †dismas†| 16:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

I propose to merge Konarak vessel incident into Iranian support vessel Konarak#2020 friendly-fire incident. This article already contains more information than the stand alone article. 203.185.249.147 (talk) 01:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - All the event information from Iranian support vessel Konarak can simply be merged into Konarak vessel incident. There isn't much more at either article. They both have the same amount of content. Koridas (...Puerto Rico for statehood!) 03:06, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge the other way round since the vessel is known only for this accident. RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 04:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support the merge as proposed. Mjroots (talk) 04:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support the merge as proposed. Don't need two articles, but there is information on the vessel, like its conversion from an unarmed tender to armed ship, that is independent of the incident.--Vici Vidi (talk) 06:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The two pages are independently notable. The fact that Konarak vessel incident is stub does not mean it should be deleted; there is a lot more to add to it by a simple search. 80.210.223.147 (talk) 07:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Merge There's not much to write about the incident itself (which currently has only three sentences). Brandmeister 07:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose, but repurpose this article as Template:Sclass-. Much of the non-incident content here is about the class, and the Dutch-built batch in particular; there is undoubtedly more to be said beyond the bare names in List of current ships of the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy and the mention there of Kalat and apparently others converted to missile boats. If there was already a class article I would have supported merge on content grounds. Davidships (talk) 10:06, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support the merge as proposed.Pennsy22 (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Keep this article and remove the incident related parts from Iranian support vessel Konarak (leave a sentence or two about the incident with a link to this article).--F4fluids (talk) 12:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support merge as proposed comrade waddie96 (talk) 13:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose--Microinjection (talk) 15:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support merging both articles to Iranian support vessel Konarak (preferred) or to Konarak vessel incident. -Fnlayson (talk) 16:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support the merge as proposed. All information can be adequately captured under the vessel's page without running into length issues. Faceless Enemy (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support a merge - either as proposed or as a reverse of what was proposed, but we don't need 2 articles. i doubt the Konarak is notable as a standalone topic, but I could be persuaded otherwise. JungerMan Chips Ahoy! (talk) 02:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

  Struck comment by JungerMan Chips Ahoy!, a blocked and banned sockpuppet. See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/NoCal100/Archive § 06 May 2020 and Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/NoCal100 for details. — Newslinger talk 15:21, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

There should be a completely different section under the page Iranian support vessel Konrak containing most of this information. Ringo Asinal - Nocead12345 (talk) 15:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support the merge as proposed. Merging will keep information together. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 13:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

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