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in memoriam

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2020 · illumination, enlightenment and vision

A barnstar for you! - thanks in 2019, visions in 2020

	The Special Barnstar
	Happy New Year, Gerda Arendt! You are receiving this barnstar because, according to this Misplaced Pages database query, you were the #3 most thanked Wikipedian of 2019, with 1418 entries in Special:Log/thanks during 2019. Congratulations, and, well, thank you for your contributions! Cheers to 2020. Mz7 (talk) 01:12, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Mz7, that's nice, just a statistical number, but nice, especially concluding 2019, a year I designated to be the year of thanks. I thank those who thanked me, - it always feels good to receive this little token of one's work being noticed and even liked. I'll transfer the barnstar to project WP:QAI for which I work. We had three topics in 2019 which are ongoing, and you can help (you all, I mean, member or not) to work on them:

• Improve Psalms articles which come from stub (Psalm 56) to GA (Psalm 84). Thanks to Yoninah, JohnThorne and many more!
• Expand and source translations by LouisAlain who is probably my most prolific "thanks-giver".
• Polish articles of people who recently died, with the goal to have them appear in the Recent deaths section whare - sadly - Peter Schreier and Harry Kupfer are as I write this. Thanks to Coffeeandcrumbs, Martinevans123, Grimes2 and many more.

What really counts for me are written thanks is prose such as those from Voceditenore and Coffee.

Let's make 2020 a year of vision, together! Article for today Psalm 103. Happy editing in 2020! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Awesome! Another interesting statistical number: according to a different database query, you were also last year's most thankful Wikipedian, with 4246 uses of the thank tool in 2019. If you meant for 2019 to be your year of thanks, you certainly achieved it. Mz7 (talk) 01:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

You read my mind that I was more interested in giving than receiving ;) - Of course it's also just a number, - I regard the clicks as a lazy expression of thanks, and count more what I do in thanking users in prose.

I hope that visions for 2020 will be as successful as the thanks in 2019:

... that missed friends return (... banned, blocked for no good reason, just given up ...)

... that edit-warring is replaced by discussion - I am on voluntary 1RR

... that people realise when they dominate a discussion too much - I try to stick to 2 comments

... that infoboxes added in good faith (now or in the past) are not regarded as vandalism

... that we'll live up to the legacy of Brian Boulton, in article creation (Percy Grainger and Lost operas by Claudio Monteverdi coming to mind), reviewing the work of others, willingness to seek compromise, and respectful attitude

... or in summary: that good faith and IAR are applied more generally, - just look at Ray's Rules and "go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset over this".

I may add to this list later - this is just a spontaneous wishlist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

ps: The (missed) Rambling Man is with us again! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 10 January 2020 (UTC) and the (missed) Begoon at least edited his user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Kirsten Flagstad - Liebestod - 1936 Covent Garden

Please let me offer my best wishes to you for the year 2020. May all your whishes and aspirations be fulfilled and many thanks for being so patient with heavy cases such as me. In other terms, thanks for being here, so helpful and ready to spare you time to help other users. On my part, I'll try to advance from inept to less inept. Respectfully yours, LouisAlain (talk) 08:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

love-ly, thank you! - just began "your radiance consumes all darkness" on my grandparents' wedding anniversary, composed for 2 January 1735, - and more articles about light to come ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

As Wayne Newton said, "Danke Schoen". SchreiberBike | ⌨  21:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Ave Maria (Biebl)

On 1 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ave Maria (Biebl), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ave Maria, an obscure piece for two men's choirs by Franz Biebl, became a choral standard after Chanticleer made it part of their holiday programs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ave Maria (Biebl). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ave Maria (Biebl)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

222,222

Congratulations! Jmar67 (talk) 01:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

in 2020, the things you see ;) - thank you for copy-editing, must be a high number of repeated mistakes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Nun lässest du, o Herr

On 13 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nun lässest du, o Herr, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the hymn "Nun lässest du, o Herr", written by Georg Thurmair as a paraphrase of the Nunc dimittis, appeared with a 16th-century melody in the first Gotteslob, but with a modern one in the second? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nun lässest du, o Herr. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nun lässest du, o Herr), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 85

On 28 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Psalm 85, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a verse from Psalm 85 inspired artworks depicting the kiss of Justice and Peace (example shown)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 85. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Psalm 85), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

kiss of Justice and Peace --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Nearly 5,000 clicks! Great job on the hook! And the image is beautiful. Yoninah (talk) 14:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

thank you, - you wrote the most interesting part of it: that the famous kiss may be a misunderstanding ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Jesu meine Freude

Thanks for the edit summary reminding me of BWV227. BHG should certainly "Trotz dem alten Drachen" :-) Guy (help!) 09:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

yes and yes, defy the old dragon, and fear on top ("und der Furcht dazu") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

the section back then was User talk:Gerda Arendt/Archive 2013#Stand and sing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

You're the sweetest

You always make me smile, thank you for your nice words of encouragement.

I brought you some `Atayef cos baklava is too mainstream ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 12:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

This is so especially sweet, thank you, ~ Elias! How did you know that I just typed a comment that said "Sad." twice? Perfect timing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry for that. Looks like I'm missing out on a lot of Wikidrama. Anyway, I hope WP treats you nicely and you don't consider quitting ever again. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 10:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

As I said there: I stubbornly stay ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre

On 2 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Die Himmel rühmen!" ('The heavens praise'), which begins an 1803 lieder collection by Beethoven setting Gellert's paraphrase of Psalm 19 to music, is also the title of a concert series by pop singer Heino? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

The first in 2020 topic Beethoven, and second in psalms, for a pic of the composer from that year see above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

precious

Hi Gerda, Thankyou for my Precious birthday card, which I always enjoy receiving!! You must be kept fairly busy now that you have found so many deserving recipients, trying to think up things to say to everybody. My Quaker upbringing taps me on the shoulder to warn against taking too much notice of birthdays, but I permit myself a moment of satisfaction and just remember my first edit back in 2006 when (as I now notice) I was passing myself off under another alias. I trust all is well with you? Kind regards, Eebahgum (talk) 22:05, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for another lovely note, Eebahgum! Actually, I take less time for Precious these days, passing no longer every day but only when I see a new name. The birthdays are almost automated, preparing a time after me. I work on this list of memory, - everybody welcome to help: look at Deaths in 2020, see a name whose article is not yet in good shape, change that, and then she or he (just look above) will be mentioned on our Main page, giving them the attention their achievements deserve. My New Year's greting (wishes - flowers - music) is linked on top, and my visions for 2020 will stay for the year. The motto of vision is derived from project Vision 2020, "eliminate avoidable blindness", did you know? It's also a Beethoven year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

"Deaths in 2020" is a bit ominous. I remember there were three real old rustic fellows who always used to sit together in a pub near here. After the first of them died, somebody put a little brass nameplate on the settle where he used to sit. When the second one died, the same thing happened. Then both the nameplates disappeared, because the third man came in with a screwdriver and took them off, saying "It will be me next!" I looked at the article this morning, and February 10 was (at that moment) still invitingly, enticingly, alluringly, menacingly BLANK: but to judge by all the precedents, the resident's list will be full up by tonight. I do not like such chilly hospitality: makes one think of the Wirtshaus in the Winterreise, but I intend to plod on a little further yet, crows, icicles, organ-grinders and all - "Excelsior"! Very best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 09:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

The title isn't by me ;) - Mirella Freni, la soave fanciulla ... - so the hospitaliy of throughing out dead and unreliable sources, searching for better ones, with Mimi's singing in my head. Will go outside before doing more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Maria, Königin des Friedens

On 10 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maria, Königin des Friedens, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Maria, Königin des Friedens (pictured), a Brutalist pilgrimage church in Neviges, Germany, has become architect Gottfried Böhm's signature building? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maria, Königin des Friedens. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Maria, Königin des Friedens), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

... that Maria, Königin des Friedens (Mary, Queen of Peace),
a Brutalist pilgrimage church in Neviges, Germany,
has become architect Gottfried Böhm's signature building?

The architect just celebrated 100! I took one of the images, but not the lead ... - album here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

A hello

Just popping in to leave a greeting. First, thanks for all your excellent work on the wiki. I appreciate all the encouragement you've given me. --LilHelpa (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

LilHelpa, thank you, great helper! I remember how you made the very beginning easy for me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Beethoven

Beethoven in 1803

Good morning! Other than Bach, Beethoven is my favorite classical composer. The first time I heard 'Moonlight Sonata' was when I was eight years old when my Mom played it on our piano. It touched my heart deeply. God bless. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 04:43, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Gwillhickers! Rather similar memories: at age 10, I begam piano lessons, and one of the first records my mother bought contained that 14th sonata, performed by Friedrich Gulda. I played Für Elise rather soon, and it became my father's favourite, played on all his birthdays. I learned the first movement of the sonata in self-study, but wouldn't manage the third which impresses me the deepest. - I chenged the header, - it's his year! Memories of singing Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre and Choral Fantasy date back to age 12. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn)

On 25 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in his 1831 chorale cantata Verleih uns Frieden, Mendelssohn set Luther's German prayer for peace to a new melody? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Bergkirche, Wiesbaden

On 26 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bergkirche, Wiesbaden, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 2019 concerts in the 19th-century Bergkirche in Wiesbaden, Germany, included Pärt's Passio and Handel's Messiah? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bergkirche, Wiesbaden. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bergkirche, Wiesbaden), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Alte Liebe

On 28 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alte Liebe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alte Liebe (Old Love) is a novel about a couple married for 40 years, told by a couple married longer but separated, with chapters written alternately by wife and husband? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alte Liebe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alte Liebe), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Wug·a·po·des​ 01:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

ALte Liebe - old love. In the book, a couple married during the German student movement. - In memory of Käthe, married in the 1970s. Part of my February flowers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

So I found this photo of the authors together. It's not very good, but is it better than none? Also for the Bernd Schroeder article? --GRuban (talk) 16:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes!! thank you! - We have a rather good one of her but I found it unfair to use for the joint venture. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Infobox book

I am helping with Sixto-Clementine Vulgate. I do not want to italicize the IB title but cannot resolve the problem. There is a parameter to force it but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Otherwise I will ask on the template's talk page. The idea here is that the English title is an informal one and should not be italicized. Jmar67 (talk) 22:52, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Good idea to ask on the template talk. It should not have the title italic, when the article title is not, per the parameter. Never had that problem, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps RexxS would know? - We don't talk about the article title style - which works - but the title in the infobox itself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

I have a solution, but it will need consensus to change the main infobox template. --RexxS (talk) 02:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, both! - see also WP:QAI/Infobox, - and once we are there can we also install a parameter Image_upright? ... which actually should be in every infobox with an image. - Rossini's birthday today, a rare thing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

RexxS and all: once in wishlist mood, for Precious anniversaries, I copy a template, and manually change the user name, the image size and the years. I like to do that, because it's moments of remembering that I/we are thankful for a user's contribs. However, for fewer typing errors and life after me - returning from a funeral ... - I could imagine to call a template with a year as the only parameter, which fetches the basepagename and adjusts the imagesize accordingly, 1 year 0.2, 2 - 0.25, 3 - 0,3 ... - so far we have eight, and need to find a way for 10 and beyond to not get much larger ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Precious

Eight years!

I've made Template:User QAIbox/auto that you can use like this: {{User QAIbox/auto|years=Four}}. You give the number of years as a capitalised word. It scales up to ten years, but stays at upright=0.65 for anything beyond nine years. It should still accept the other parameters as well, but you shouldn't need them for Precious Anniversary. If you get a chance to test it (maybe just preview it on some pages) and it's okay, perhaps you can add a little documentation to Template:User QAIbox/auto/doc, indicating how you'd like to see it used? --RexxS (talk) 20:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

That's lovely, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

... and used, and modified here to eight, because that's what it is for me know, thanks to a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Dies war das erste - und netteste - was du jemals über mich gesagt hast, Gerda. Es wird sehr geschätzt. Danke.

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Welcom to the cabal of the outcast, some of whom were not treated fairly by arbcom. After I joined the group, I understood the whole thing better when I read the uncomparable guide by a missed friend. ("... it has the force of a religious decree or legal mandate. Disregard the commandments herein at your peril", and I still see him smile writing that.) - You know my questionaires for candidates, and twice said you don't understand my question (which were always about fair treatment), which told me you were nor ready yet for the cabal ;) - Someone said "No foul, play on", and I hope you will listen and keep playing, the piano and with us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your kindness

These lilies of the valley ...

... are gratefully offered to dear Gerda, a very special person who makes us feel special, each and every year.

With kindest regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee. 11:29, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

thank you, blushing ;) - We have a saying which translates roughly to "a face like a lily of the valley, but a mind like a butcher's dog". --

You're most welcome, Gerda. Ah yes, inevitably! Isn't it always dangerous to offer flowers without knowing all the subtle idiomatic expressions from all of the world's languages?! In this case, it's only that lilies of the valley are my own favourite flower, about to bloom very soon; one of the best moments of the year for me.
Thank you once again for all that you do for all of us; year in, year out.

Patrick. ツ Pdebee. 11:51, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, understand, - we call them Maiglöckchen, Little May Bells, and they won't bloom before May. So far we have Schneeglöckchen, Little Snow Bells, but snow became rare. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for O salutaris hostia (Miškinis)

On 11 March 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article O salutaris hostia (Miškinis), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that O salutaris hostia (O saving victim), a setting of a Eucharistic hymn for mixed choir by Vytautas Miškinis, was performed in Brussels when Lithuania held the EU presidency? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/O salutaris hostia (Miškinis). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, O salutaris hostia (Miškinis)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

listen, video at the bottom! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

A cup of coffee and a thank you

Here's a digital cup of coffee for you! Thank you for believing in me and for your help!
StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 14:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, makes me happy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

You're very welcome! And I've noticed that you're a fan of music. Here's one of my favorite singer's album. It comes from Rich Mullins. I hope you enjoy it and thanks again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbIYPYBiejM&list=PL_GEgJYfgrhdbRRAQDPBf1TsNMiwXfYNI StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 14:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Powerful stuff, and this fugue cleverly packaged ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I'll take a listen to it! I do like Bach's music. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 15:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I hope you are staying safe and isolated. It isn't classical, but my sister sent this to me and I thought it was awesome. People are so amazingly creative and can find so many ways to stay in touch. Made me smile in a time when there isn't a lot to smile about. SusunW (talk) 20:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

It made me smile although I can't see it in my country, as an error message informs me. I am known for singing in defiance, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I am so sorry. It is a group of studio musicians performing as a choir via cell phone. I am sorry you cannot hear it, but I am glad it made you smile. Stay strong, stay away from others. SusunW (talk) 21:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Jessye Norman

On 29 March 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jessye Norman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Jessye Norman (pictured), whose voice was described as a "grand mansion of sound", performed at U.S. presidential inaugurations and sang La Marseillaise at the French Revolution's bicentennial? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jessye Norman. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jessye Norman), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I feel blessed, having heard her in person at Carnegie Hall. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Request

Planning on taking the Honan Chapel article to PR in 14 days, and would be very appreciative if you could take a look, given how helpful you have been in the past. Have a strong connection to the building; lived (in a hovel) for two years literally 2 minutes walk from it as a student, and for the last 20 years the Gobnait window works for me in about a million ways. My best friend was married there in 2005. Anyway, if you get a chance. Ceoil (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Ceoil, for an irresistible invitation. Once someone said to me "whatever works for you" and how true that is. The Opera house pictured was 2 minutes away from where I lived as a student, and I visited frequently. Back then, we sang St. Matthew Passion one year, and St. John Passion the other. This year, It would have been Matthew again, see above. What works for me is the song of defiance, also see above, which I sang even before, in Bach's incredible version. GA nom failed. Lyrics so suitable to these times: "weg mit allen Schätzen" - away with all treasures - and he composes weg, weg, weg, weg ... - but "ich steh hier und singe" - here I stand and sing. (I used it in defiance of arbcom already, as you probably know, and I was recently reminded.) - What keeps me busy is making articles decent of people who recently died - many. I haven't looked today yet. Then, I'll turn to that wonderful image, please be patient. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

I looked now - only looked, and it's another one with many pictures which make placement tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Never heard of "river of life" as Christian theme. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:13, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Me neither, I'm still trying to untangle that one. Re images, have been fussing over them a lot, but have a few new sources to add, so that might help improve the text/images ratio. Also, some of the images are quite poor quality, when the travel restriction is all over, will pop over there and try and get better ones, also, may be a few of the altar and tabernacle, and plan on asking them to let me photograph some of the metalwork, crosses, vestments which are not usually on display. Anyway, great to have your input!

By coincidence, back when we were living next door, our big discover that first year, 1992, was the St. Matthew Passion, which for two of us, became the gateway into a classical music; until then it had all only been indie and punk! Ceoil (talk) 20:37, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Great! By now, I also read the text, made minor changes, love it. Small things could be discussed in the PR. I think the St Matthew leaves no one with a heart cold. In a 1998 performance, the program notes (not by me then) said we are in all the characters, Peter, Judas, Pilate, the crowd ... - Today, I received a video from the church where would sung (link further up, with one of pics), - the organist is the conductor, the minister his wife. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh my, what a sumptuous and deeply coloured interior! As mentioned to you a number of times before, "mache dich mein herze rein"ps contains eye-candy! is something that has staid with and moved me over all these years. It conveys such complex emotions; both melancholy and joy as if finding hope after long dispare. Look forward to your feedback on the chapel. Ceoil (talk) 22:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

said well - I just wrote about Jo Vincent, a soprano in that long Netherlands tradition, Ilona Durigo before, the alto in their first recording, and the choir. Bedtime. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

thank you, lovely! - today is time for the Morning Star, a little hymn on the Main page, and Bach's cantata No. 1, written (also) for Palm Sunday, up for PR. I moved the pic right, in the interest of indenting = clarity ;) - I left a translation question for all under the DYK notice below. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, and when pinged, I listen; in the case of BWV 1 the inclusion of horns is very refreshing vs the (beloved) Bach am used to. Wow but zzz Ceoil (talk) 01:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for listening, always, and your ideas, refreshing! - Today, there's a collective virtual St John Passion from Leipzig, or the same piece sung by Voces8 and friend, - a group I always find when looking for a good YouTube for "our" music, - remember The Deer's Cry? ... Beati? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Three Latin Motets

On 7 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Three Latin Motets, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Three Latin Motets, Charles Villiers Stanford's only church music not in English, was dedicated to Alan Gray, who succeeded him as organist at Trinity College, Cambridge, and the college's choir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Three Latin Motets. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Three Latin Motets), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

--valereee (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

One of them is Beati quorum via integra est. - Difficult to translate, the tricky word being "integra" which is not easy in both English and German, - looking for an adjective related to integrity, for the way, which is the way of living, not just walking. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

We sang it last on 8 March. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

I found this about it: “I am always delighted when I hear sung the words from a psalm, “Beati quorum via integra est” – blessed are they whose way is “whole”. “Integra” is full of resonances: uncorrupt, integrated, wholesome, complete. Yet perhaps our splendour, if humanity has any, ultimately lies in the split in our nature, and how we handle it...“ . His Latin may be better than his wisdom, but if I were you I should use his translation. Moonraker (talk) 02:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, taken. Now I'd also be interested in the meaning in Hebrew. Yoninah? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

The Hebrew word, תְמִֽימֵי־דָ֑רֶךְ, can be literally read as "pure in the way." El_C 23:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

That sounds great, but would need some explanation for me. I like a positive word like "pure", compared to "blameless", "undefiled", and also to the frequent "perfect", because nobody is ... - The recordings sounds pure ;) - Yoninah, I think some of this should go to Psalm 119, even if we can't quote the whole long thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

The Hebrew word תְמִֽימֵי means as Moonraker says "wholesome", also "straightforward", "sincere". "Purehearted" would work. Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I had better add that the word “via” has most of the meanings of “way”, and in this psalm it plainly doesn’t mean something you stand on! So the word way might as well be kept. It’s a matter of which other word to use for the metaphor, and wholesome may be better than whole. Moonraker (talk) 19:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

On infoboxes

Gerda, are you not still limited to two comments per infobox discussion? ((I'm thinking of here). I should not like to see you getting into any trouble. Best--Smerus (talk) 12:23, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

That provision has now expired (although I hope I don't need to remind you all that arguing about infoboxes is never going to end well for anyone). ‑ Iridescent 12:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's dream

... has expired in 2015 - I wonder when the new times begin when those boxes are treated nothing special, like tables and images, - it could be now, imagine ;) ... imagine how much editors' time could go to something more useful than debate if something meant to help readers (and could be opted out if not wanted) is permitted to help or not. - ps, and see my New year's intentions on top: I normally try to stick to 2 comments voluntarily, in ANY discussion, because it's more polite to other participants (and - selfish - it limits my waste of time). - Today's topic: Psalm 31, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I think you are wise - I will try in future to limit myself to two comments as well. Hope you are keeping well - I am finding lockdown very tedious. Best--Smerus (talk) 15:20, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I answered below. and gave it a Passion header. For the infoboxes, I began hoping in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

St John Passion 2020, in defiance

Thank you ;) - Normally, we would have sung St Matthew Passion, instead, I sang along in the St John Passion from Bach's burial place in the Thomaskirche, and sometimes cried. Exceptional tenor who took ALL roles, with keyboard (switching harpsichord and organ) and percussion. They left out some arias. Great moments! (... such as "kreuzige" hissed to drums, and "es ist vollbracht" first as Jesus, then an octave lower than in the alto aria, and at its end high, as if uplifted ...) - link Carus bachfest --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

A header for it: Passion trotz(t) Pandemie, which is hard to translate. Suggestions welcome. Trotz (defiance) is a key word in Jesu, meine Freude (which I quoted after the arb case, to connect to the beginning). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for I Will Mention the Loving-kindnesses

On 12 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article I Will Mention the Loving-kindnesses, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that I Will Mention the Loving-kindnesses is an 1875 Easter anthem by Arthur Sullivan for solo tenor, mixed choir, and organ, setting a passage from the Book of Isaiah? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/I Will Mention the Loving-kindnesses. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, I Will Mention the Loving-kindnesses), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)

On 17 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the second of Henry Purcell's two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts was composed in an earlier style for the funeral of Queen Mary II of England? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

--valereee (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Finally. We sang it on 8 March, and put the secrets of our hearts into it, "spare us, Lord!" ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Precious

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I'm back from a really long Wikibreak, and I am absolutely astounded at how you single-handedly continued the tradition of recognizing fellow Wikipedians for their great work at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious for the past eight years. Absolutely stunning. I truly wish you could have met Phaedriel; you really inherited her spirit of fostering WikiLove! bibliomaniac15 23:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Bibliomaniac15, blushing to a colour like the strawberries below, and mostly: welcome back!! - You may have noticed (look for the Yogo above) that I try to prepare the award for a time after me, and you are most welcome - as some others do already, and everybody is invited to - to pass the award. We sometimes have two one day, and miss days, - doesn't matter ;) - It's good for me to do first thing in the morning: to look around for the many reasons to be thankful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Blessings!

I am not sure if I am actually back or not, but I must say that arbitration has gone a long way toward restoring my faith in Misplaced Pages. It was a difficult experience, and it was good for me to see the many others who shared it--to see they were pretty much all women--to know that wasn't just me being crazy paranoid--that it wasn't just me. Gerda, thank you for your support and understanding. There aren't enough words to explain how much that has meant to me. But it's done now, and I can put it all behind me. I haven't gotten up the nerve to ask for the restoration of my user page yet, but I'm chewing over the possibility, since he can ask to come back again in a year. His record on targeting people is worrisome. But that's for another day. I have a year! So I am working on getting the flags removed from one article. I will try to take it slow and see how it goes. So far so good. Thank you again. May all the blessings of life fall into your life and the lives of those you love! I wish you all possible good things! You're a wonderful person. I'm grateful to be able to call you friend. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back, Jen, friend! You have a great way with words, which was sorely missed during your absence. Even more: your great personality, remembering the line "What do you mean, I can´t rewrite the entire article!?". Yes, you can, and vigilance increased, I believe. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you dear one. Thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:14, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

May I trouble you for some technical assistance? I have a reference I want to be able to reuse so I don't want to include the page numbers inside the reference because I want to be able to change them. There was a way to do that--I remember it existed! To put the page numbers at the end outside the rest of the reference--do you have any idea what I'm talking about?!? Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:55, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind! I found it! It's double brackets with rp! Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

That's one way. The other is using harv referencing and giving the page in the call, with a link to the exact page, - see Clara Schumann or Vespro della Beata Vergine if interested. I find it helpful for a reader when different corners of a book are used as referencing, to be guided to some page without search or "turning pages". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Le Concert Spirituel

On 22 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Le Concert Spirituel, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Le Concert Spirituel played Handel's open-air music at the Proms with an ensemble that comprised 18 oboes, 9 trumpets, 9 trombones, and strings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Le Concert Spirituel. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Le Concert Spirituel), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (Talk) 12:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

listen if you think uplifting music would be good for you - Concert spirituel translates to Geistliches Konzert, or spiritual concert - remembering Erhard Egidi who conducted much uplifting music, but said after a service with choral music, asked what he liked best: the unison singing of Allein Gott in der Höh sei Ehr. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera)

On 26 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Haroun and the Sea of Stories, an opera by Charles Wuorinen, is based on a children's novel by Salman Rushdie about free imagination in battle with thought control? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Darmstädter Ferienkurse

On 26 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Darmstädter Ferienkurse, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Darmstädter Ferienkurse ('Darmstadt Summer Courses') were initiated in 1946 to reconnect German contemporary music to the international scene after the genre's suppression by the Nazis? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Darmstädter Ferienkurse. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Darmstädter Ferienkurse), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Naomi Munakata

On 27 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Naomi Munakata, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Naomi Munakata, who began singing in a choir at the age of seven, served as the choral conductor of the Orquestra Sinfônica do Estado de São Paulo from 1995 to 2013? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Naomi Munakata. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Naomi Munakata), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Credo (Penderecki)

On 28 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Credo (Penderecki), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a recording of Credo, composed by Krzysztof Penderecki (pictured) for five soloists, choirs and orchestra for the 1998 Oregon Bach Festival, won a Grammy Award for Best Choral Performance? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Credo (Penderecki). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Credo (Penderecki)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

... that Krzysztof Penderecki inserted at the end of his Credo, from Psalm 118, "Haec dies, quam fecit Dominus ..." (This is the day, which the Lord has made: Let us rejoice and be glad in it.)?

Only just noticed you had done this. Impressed, its a fantastic piece of work. Ceoil (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! As said just below, my way to honour a great composer! - I have the Chapel on my radar, don't give up hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Thankyou for creating Credo (Penderecki) and honouring the wonderful composer! † Encyclopædius 11:03, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. That was the intention, to honour the composer, - I feel understood. When I can't improve a composer to where I want him I write about a composition. In this case, I didn't know when I started how close that would get me to the topics of death and life, so prominent for Easter. He quoted from Psalm 130 and Psalm 118, creating something new anchored in tradition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

History of Christian thought on tolerance and persecution

Okay, here it is: . When and if you have time, and if you want to, I would love for you to take a look at it and be as critical as you are able. You always do so in a reasonable manner and I appreciate that. I had a copyright scare and believe I have now fixed all of that--my method was apparently flawed so I learned something from the experience--but I didn't like it!! :-) But if you want to check--I don't know how--that might be a good idea! I don't intentionally copy but I would transfer things to my sandbox and work on them there and apparently fail to recognize that I hadn't changed everything. So now I feel stupid but at least I'm not doing that anymore!! Such a puppy, I know. Anyway, don't feel obligated just because I asked, but I do genuinely value your contributions whenever you make them.

I also wanted to ask if I might steal your rules thing you posted here--and how to include crediting you--because they're really good and I love them and want to see them every time I get on WP.Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:06, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for coming, and I love your user page back! Before I'll look, I should look at the wonderful request further up (look for stained-glass windows), + 10 or more overdue DYK reviews, + work on neglected articles (GA and FA plans), + go outside enough, - so it may take a while. You don't "steal"! Everything I write here comes with that "free to be used" license! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

No worries mate. Thank you for the license to steal! :-)Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:03, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

	Thank you!
	Your untiring work to let people know that they have been seen and appreciated makes this place better. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 22:51, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, blushing. I took the liberty of enlarging the pic, because while I recognized it, it may have been too small for others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Good idea. I did think that the image was a bit small, but it was almost 1am when I posted it and I was too tired to think of doing that! In my opinion, the Mass in B Minor is one of the most wonderful pieces of music in the world (if you can call that huge work a "piece of music"!). I have been privileged to perform it twice with my choir, and I think our choir director is considering it for the spring of 2022 again. I am very much an amateur chorist, but am fortunate to be part of a rather good choir. I hope we'll get back to rehearsing and performing again in August, but who knows... --bonadea contributions talk 13:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

bonadea, I agree about it's magnificence. Sung unforgettably in a concert for Peace here, at the Wiesbadener Bachwochen, again unforgettably here the day before the Iraq war ultimatum (you should have heard us sing Dona nobis pacem!!!), and last in 2013, my perspective pictured in my work of love, here, promised. Dona nobis pacem, - same music as Gratias, very meaningful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

St. Michael's in Weiden

A DYK on German Wiki today, and the article looks interesting. But the English version, if one may call it that, is just a stub. Perhaps a candidate for the Gerda Treatment – and a DYK? – Sca (talk) 14:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Good idea, just see a little above what's coming first, Sca. Reger was born in Weiden, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Imogen Stuart

Would you mind infoboxing this when you get a chance. In have no issues, this is obv an article where it would suit, but I forget how to do it. Ceoil (talk) 01:02, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Ceoil, thank you for coming over, and this time with an easy task ;) - You could have done what I now did: copy from a similar article. I'm lazy so took one with the same given name, Imogen Holst. I made some fixes to Stuart once I was there, such as {{ill}}, and linking Bauhaus, and wood to the carving. Is there anything similar for steel and stone? ... because if not better no link ;) - You will have to make the external links within the prose to references, - I had no time for that. Source for birth place and birth name? - It was nice to meet the lady! - Now I have a job for you and anybody watching. I met a new editor who added infoboxes, including some for composers. They carry 2002 in the user name, so I guess that's their birth year. I tried to explain the great dismal swamp around them like this:

1. Don't put more than one thing in one edit. We are lazy, and will revert all for one thing we dislike.
2. The topic of infoboxes has been discussed controversially, especially for composers of classical music. Instead of long explanations, just read Talk:Mozart. This was written in 2020. Hard to believe but that's the world we are in. There's also Beethoven, a good model which found community consensus, but I advise caution in the field of classical composers, period.
3. If you want to add infoboxes, there's plenty of room: Category:Misplaced Pages infobox backlog.
4. Keep in mind the thoughts by one of our greatest editors, Brianboulton: Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2013-07-10/Dispatches. His articles about classical composers often come with an infobox, see Percy Grainger. In a nutshell: keep them concise.

That's what I wrote. Can it be improved? Because the user is now indeffed, - something was obviously not communicated well (enough). Brian and his Monteverdi work (see below): that's where Misplaced Pages shines the brightest! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

About The Plebeians Rehearse the Uprising

Hi Gerda,
I've broken my own personal policy - to only create articles about plays/books/films/music that I'd read/seen/heard - here.
I must admit I only know Die Plebejer proben den Aufstand by its reputation: the young tyro Grass criticising of the older master about Brecht's... inaction.
Could you possibly help me out with this?
Peter in Australia aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:49, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

I am interested, but look around: many in the pipeline, Monteverdi urgent, bday 15 May, then Honan Chapel, then the Christian thoughts. - I managed the DYK reviews!!! Couldn't believe it myself. - Never saw that play, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for St. Kolumba, Cologne

On 6 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Kolumba, Cologne, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a wall and a statue of Mary that survived the World War II bombing of St. Kolumba in Cologne have been incorporated into a chapel within the Kolumba art museum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Kolumba, Cologne. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, St. Kolumba, Cologne), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar

	#1400 DYK
	Wow! And as we come up on Mothers day, MOM upside down. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:19, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Chorus master

Pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference between a chorus master and a choirmaster, if there is any? Editrite! (talk) 02:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't use any of those, but Choral conductor. It's about the difference between choir and chorus, if any, and I was told that choir would rather be associatiated with church, chorus with musical (A Chorus Line). Any help, best probably by native speakers, welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I would say that "choir" and "chorus" might have different associations - a "church choir", certainly; and the ensemble singing of English National Opera is provided by its chorus - but I see no problem with Vienna Boys' Choir, which is not a _church_ choir, I think. Perhaps a distinction could be made by the relative importance of the ensemble and soloists, if any. "Choral" is quite a good choice in covering both "choir" and "chorus".

But I wasn't entirely happy with "choral conductor", although I do understand it, because my feeling is that conductor really describes the role of a single person in a specific performance, whereas as the chorus master or choirmaster is rather a musical director for the chorus/choir. Having said that, when a choir performs, I would expect its choirmaster to conduct or lead; whereas a chorus would be, during performance, conducted by someone other than the chorus master. Maybe that is the real distinction between the two. I'm not sure that is a help, is it?

As for "native speakers", so much musical vocabulary is quite different between those two well-known varieties of English, and besides that so coloured by examples from continental Europe, I don't know that it is a help either --PaulBetteridge (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for helping to more understanding of the matter. No idea why it's boys' choir, but men's chorus. Singing in church choirs, the choral conductor will also conduct the concert, but I understand that in opera, that's the exception. I try to avoid "master" because it's a word with many meanings. The Bayreuth Festival translated "choir director". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

A thank you

What I actually came to say was, thank you for what you do. Another recently deceased musician, and more hard work from you to get their biography into shape. Besides what you write on music generally. And caring too. I know you thank many others, and I am not sure you get the thanks you deserve in return. --PaulBetteridge (talk) 15:08, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Paul, that's nice. If you look at the top, you'll see that I'm the third-most-thanked person on the project, and I doubt that I deserve that ;) - I'm working on this list of thanks for what people did in life, and - while the reason to look is sad - it's quite rewarding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

help?

I am working on a file (by the way the grand-daughter of Ambros ­Rieder ) and I need help. Perhaps you or a page stalker can assist? I have a lot of press files, i.e. 1902, 1904, 1908, and particularly these two from the 1920s 1922, 1924 that I cannot read or translate. I am particularly interested in the later pieces, as I am finding a lot of claims that she stopped working during the war and died in poverty after many years illness, but on the other hand, press indicates she was working as late as 1931 (and she died in 1932). As I am unsure what these pieces say, I do not know if they can help in solving that mystery, or might contain information which would be helpful in her biography. SusunW (talk) 15:17, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Susun, I hope you have some patience, because - look around - I'm busy. I am determined to have a good list of Monteverdi's operas by his birthday, 15 March, and then people die, and have an unreferenced stub for an article, sigh, - I drop all my plans then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Not to worry, I have plenty of patience. Perhaps someone who reads your page or sees the post on the article talk will help. SusunW (talk) 21:19, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Ian was able to read the 1904 and 1908 pieces. SusunW (talk) 14:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

... good, - a bit chilling that I'm working also on a person who presented lions --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Susun, I can read the 1902 piece, - it reads pretty much like the 1908 incidence, happened in Lemberg, 2 lions attacking, wound at left hand but not dangerous. The 1920s clippings are both only for subscribers. Do you have access, and could possibly email me a larger version? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Well that's good, as I think it confirm's Ian's idea that the "attack" is part of the act. I've sent you an e-mail and can send PDFs of the 1920s pieces if you can respond. SusunW (talk) 19:57, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I will see. Meanwhile, I found another ref for the 1908 film, which doesn't take so long to load ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Cool. PDFs are on their way to you. Again, thank you so much for the help! SusunW (talk) 20:10, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Interesting! - As for Baby-Doll: it's about an exhibition about several artists, - the source de:Misplaced Pages is only for the small biographical part. Would you need translation of some of the rest? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

This mentions on p. 62 a book Amazonen der Manege about her and other women like her. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

How is this? - I can't tell, don't speak French, but see that she is mentioned and pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

in Frankfurt 1903 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Add anything at all that you would like and helps the article. Honestly, she was really, really hard as I had sources in Dutch, German, French, and Spanish and very, very few in English. Since I don't speak any of those except Spanish, it was a game of translating it through lots and lots of translation machines and the back translating to verify. But, I thought she was quite fascinating and obviously was internationally known during her lifetime. SusunW (talk) 21:25, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I think the English article is better than the German, thanks to you. No more time right now, though. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I totally understand lack of time and thank you for your help. I appreciate everyone who has language skills more than I can say. :) SusunW (talk) 21:44, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

"right now" means only: close to midnight here, and many other open tasks above and below, and wanting to do more about Monteverdi, approaching his birthday 15 May. Anybody: please go over his Vespers and improve - see my 2020 lead image on my user page, - history, looks like from a different world right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Norbert Balatsch

On 8 May 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Norbert Balatsch, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer 16:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, that was fast and smooth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Seeking FAC mentorship

I am hoping to have Meghan Trainor up for TFA on Trainor's birthday in December, and am seeking some help. Would you like to mentor me for its second (and hopefully successful) FAC?--NØ 12:38, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, if you don't expect too much. Did you take it to peer review? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, though it is yet to receive any replies. And I doubt it will attract any due to Trainor's obscurity currently.--NØ 15:38, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Great. My first step will be to reply there, but look above, for things I need/want to do before. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Ye Choirs of New Jerusalem

I see you're quite often involved with WP:DYK so if there's something from this article which seems appropriate, feel free to point it out at the proper place. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 23:35, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

RandomCanadian, that's an interesting article, which I had watchlisted already, - did you know that you can watchlist red links? - I am not happy yet with a link from the composer's works list to the hymn. Perhaps give the paragraph on the composition in the article a header, and have a bold name for the anthem in the lead? - I am also not happy with the term "Paschal victory" in the lead, before anything else, but now I'm also not happy with "Triumphal entry into Jerusalem", while paintings and murals are simply called "Entry into Jerusalem". I think these may be Anglican phrasings that the uninitiated reader may not recognize. Perhaps explain in the body but not us (at least not without quotation marks, and not with a link to something else) - I will think about a DYK hook - would you have an article about Pentecost also? We should make a list of Pentecost/Whitsun hymns, but how to call it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

The link from Stanford goes directly to the musical settings section (since that's where I made the redirect go), I could reasonably add a subsection and link there instead. Linking "Paschal victory" to Resurrection of Jesus is my own interpretation of that bit of text, and it seemed obvious to me (since this is a hymn for Easter proper, not for Palm Sunday)... RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 13:34, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Fine with the redirect, I misunderstood. - I wasn't clear about the other. For our general readership - imagine a Buddhist from Pakistan reading that - Paschal victory may be an unknown term. I would not use it in the lead, and would prefer a clear link to Resurrection of Jesus. (The other was only an analogy, - I feel the same about that not factual-sounding "Triumphal", where a neutral "entry would" do.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Fixed. RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 18:09, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

New version of the article Basset clarinet

Guten Tag Gerda, ich habe den Artikel teils inhaltlich, vor allem aber vom Erscheinungsbild her wesentlich überarbeitet. Vorerst befindet sich der geänderte Artikel hier: https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Gisel/basset_clarinet .

Ich wäre dir dankbar, wenn du ihn einmal auf Fehler (vor allem sprachliche) durchsehen und sie ggf. korrigieren würdest, bevor ich den Artikel in den Namensraum bringe. Vielen Dank Gisbert Gisel (talk) 09:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I will but please be patient - look around. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Please see and correct now here: Basset clarinet Gisel (talk) 08:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Good to know. Will take two days minimum. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Gisel, I looked right now, and sorry, you made a mistake, blanking first, and then adding "your" new version. Can you do the following: return to the last version with the old text, and edit that by replacing by your new version? If not, we'll need Graham to fix the article history, because we now miss the interesting comparison of what exactly was changed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

• I corrected the error by resetting twice. Now you can compare the old and the new version directly. Gisel (talk) 09:28, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks. For what it's worth I wouldn't have removed the blank version from the history anyway ... I don't think little slip-ups should be removed like that, especially since the diff between the old and new versions is still possible to get at (even though it's more awkward). Graham87 09:33, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Thank you both for helping me to less awkwardness, - I'm lazy ;) - please return to here tomorrow for Monteverdi's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Die Sintflut

On 13 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Die Sintflut, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the final movement of Die Sintflut (The Flood), a cantata for eight-part unaccompanied choir by Willy Burkhard, the voices paint Noah's rainbow? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Die Sintflut. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Die Sintflut), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gabriel Bacquier

On 14 May 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gabriel Bacquier, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 11:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Rolf Hochhuth †

RD?
– Sca (talk) 12:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

look around, to busy, but will of course look, - can you help? - I looked, referencing is poor, my personal interest low, - I hope others will do it, or not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Herbert Jöris

On 15 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hans Herbert Jöris, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hans Herbert Jöris conducted the world premiere of Giselher Klebe's one-act opera Das Rendezvous, composed for the 125th anniversary of the Staatsoper Hannover? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Herbert Jöris. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hans Herbert Jöris), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Did you know that Hans Herbert Jöris conducted the first church concert I ever heard, with a Bach cantata? - 15 May is his birthday, and Monteverdi's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)