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A detailed description of the contents of the V for Vendetta: Special Edition DVD should be added to the article.

References to use

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Booker, M. Keith (2007). "V for Vendetta". May Contain Graphic Material: Comic Books, Graphic Novels, and Film. Praeger. ISBN 0275993868.
Keller, James R. (2008). V For Vendetta As Cultural Pastiche: A Critical Study of the Graphic Novel and Film. McFarland. ISBN 0786434678.
Reynolds, James (2009). "'KILL ME SENTIMENT': V For Vendetta and comic-to-film adaptation". Journal of Adaptation in Film & Performance. 2 (2): 121–136. doi:10.1386/jafp.2.2.121_1. ISSN 1753-6421. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
Williams, Tony (2006). "Assessing V For Vendetta". CineAction (70): 16–23. ISSN 0826-9866. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) "Looks at V FOR VENDETTA in the current political climate."
Shay, Estelle (2006). "Overview: Dan Glass on V for Vendetta". Cinefex (106): 15–20. ISSN 0198-1056. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) "An overview of visual effects supervisor Dan Glass' and Cine -site's work on V FOR VENDETTA."
Winterton, Ian (2006). "Fear Me". Empire (202): 89, 91–95. ISSN 0957-4948. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) "Cast and crew discuss the making of and the themes in the film V FOR VENDETTA."
Wolff, Michael (2006). "R for Revolution". Vanity Fair (546): 44, 46–47. ISSN 0733-8899. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) "Article considering V FOR VENDETTA as a reflection of the post-9/11 world, and placing it in the tradition of 'cultural sabotage' embodied by films such as IF.... and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE."
"The V for Vendetta". Film Review (664): 80–81. 2005. ISSN 0957-1809. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) "Co-creator Dez Skin and original artist David Lloyd discuss the genesis and controversy surrounding the release delay of V FOR VENDETTA."

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Genre

Can other editors shed some light on where the genres listed in the lead for this film are originating? I checked Allmovie and BFI and they didn't support what we currently have listed. I'll give it some time before I make any edits. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 21:05, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Differences between film and graphic novel

I'm currently expanding this section with objective, verifiable information taken straight from the comic and movie. However, it's getting erroneously accused of being "original research". It's NOT original research. Stop removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.70.13.107 (talk) 08:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I believe it was at WP:FILM that a consensus was established some time ago that "differences" information should not be added unless sources have discussed the differences. If nothing else, every film adaptation will differ from the source material, and it is not for us to make our own determination as to which differences merit being mentioned. Hence we rely on sources. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 15:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Edit-warring by IP

If there are other editors who believe that this edit is appropriate, please let me know. My feeling is that this is adding original research, and that the IP responsible for adding the material has thus far deigned to provide a rationale for their edits. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 12:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

The IP tried to start a conversation in the section directly above this one... Argento Surfer (talk) 13:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

And it looks like the IP has responded to various template warnings on their talk page. Am I missing a conversation where you explain to the IP (without a template) what OR means here? Otherwise, I see you biting a well-meaning newbie and getting them blocked. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I may not have been as courteous as I could have been, but I undertook no actions to get them blocked, unless you're counting leaving them messages at their Talk page and here. FWIW I also apparently missed that the comment above this thread was made by them. If you're going to assume good faith of the IP, perhaps you might do me the same courtesy? DonIago (talk) 15:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Apologies if you feel I didn't. TBH, I was expecting you to point out something I missed. Argento Surfer (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Wrong Date

The article summary states that V for Vendetta is set in 2020. this edit changed it recently and then it's gone back and forth. While the virus in the film started in 2020, the film was set in 2032. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.103.226.195 (talk • contribs)

Can you provide any information to support your claim, such as when in the film it's stated that the virus starts in 2020? Thanks! DonIago (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Checking the edit history, 2032 was the status quo prior to January 2020. I've restored it and added a source. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Beat me to it; I concur with your change. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 20:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I've reverted back to 2020, all reliable sources I could find mention "set in London 2020" and only Misplaced Pages mirrors and self-published content (possibly citing Misplaced Pages) mention 2032. 2032 was inserted in November 2018 by what appears to be a date vandal. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:35, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Rewatching the movie tonight, 2032 seems to match better but there isn't anything specific to that date that I've found yet. The flashbacks to the story from the detention center states that in 2015 Valerie met Ruth and then they were both taken by the government after 3 years together. This would put the very beginning of the actual V story arc at 2018. Meanwhile it would seem that Norsefire's rise to power and the situation in the movie would have taken longer to happen due to things like inspector Finch stating he was a party member for 27 years. Additionally, in the scene where Finch is reviewing Prothere's file he states he was one of the richest men in the country before becoming the Voice of London and the info on his screen states that Prothero bought stock in Viadoxic in 2020 and at some point later has been working for the BTN for four years. This would imply that the absolute earliest year the movie could be set in was 2024 (36:51 in the movie). The only other timestamped thing I found is another screen grab from Finch's computer showing that Father Lilliman's position has been Bishop from 2020-present. I think it is safe to definitively say the movie is not set in 2020. While 2032 is a feasible setting, I am yet to find anything that specifies that exact year but it for sure isn't 2020. Theyoyomaster (talk) 04:24, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Based on the discussion below it appears that the year has been definitively locked down to 2027-2028. Does anyone else have any thoughts on it before making the change? Theyoyomaster (talk) 20:23, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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This film takes place in 2020 (not in 2032 as a user changed it to say on June 9th). 2600:1700:8461:29F0:8D00:4ABF:4CC4:F96C (talk) 12:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Done – Thjarkur (talk) 13:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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Change from:
In 2020, the world is in turmoil and warfare
to:
In 2027, the world is in turmoil and warfare

That the Plot section of the Wiki article be updated to not reflect that the film is set in 2020. The current reference being used to state that the film is set in 2020 is from the article 'Dystopia' with a capital V which is not a referenced piece by Roger Ebert, but only an opinion and review of the film, and doesn't accurately reflect details that are apparent in the film. The first example of this can be seen at 16 minutes and 14 seconds into the film. There is an image of a computer record being accessed by Inspector Finch, of Evey Hammond, which states

Jan 2021, JRP Wycombe Unit 789 
Workplacement by Juvenile Workforce Prog.
JORDAN TOWER TELEVISION CENTRE
Employed as a Personal Assistant

This record specifically refers to when Evey had been put in workplacement to work with Gordon Deitrich, which has occurred before her introduction in the film.

Also, as per a response to the question "What year was this movie set in?" in the FAQ on IMDB

2027 and 2028. About 1:30 into the film, the news anchor mentions the St. Mary's terrorist attacks "14 years ago." In the following scene, the detectives discuss two covert intelligence agents who suspiciously died "the day after" those attacks, and the computer screen reads their deceased dates as 06.05.14 (May 6th, 2014). So the film ostensibly is set from November 5th, 2027 to November 5th, 2028.

Please see about updating this, as having the article refer to the year 2020 will only mean that people will try and use this for Memes and jokes that appear to make it look like V for Vendetta is real and relates to the worlds current situation.

Ebert, Roger (March 16, 2006). "V for Vendetta movie review & film summary". RogerEbert.com. Retrieved 15 June 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
"V for Vendetta (2005) - Frequently Asked Questions - IMDb". IMDb: Ratings, Reviews, and Where to Watch the Best Movies & TV Shows. Retrieved 15 June 2020.

Griffmiester (talk) 07:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

A review of the scenes referenced from IMDB shows that it is correct. The movie is clearly set in 2027/2028. I agree that this is the final answer and the article should be updated. Theyoyomaster (talk) 20:33, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. —KuyaBriBri 14:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

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under plot please change "In 2020" to "In 2032". The source for the year saying its 2020 is not reliable if you go to all the past versions before June 14th of this year the year is 2032, I can't believe you let someone edit it without checking to see if that source is legit. 166.70.52.11 (talk) 07:59, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Question: Another request above requests the year be changed to 2027 or 2028 - Is there a definitive answer here? --allthefoxes 09:58, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Not done: Duplicate request. If the correct date is 2032 then an investigation with better sources will reveal this; no need to have two of the same open. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Under Plot, the year the film takes place is incorrect

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The film can not possibly take place in the year 2020, due to numerous context clues throughout the film. 1) When Eric Finch and Dominic Stone go to Evey’s apartment, Finch sees Evey’s old BTN ID card on her mirror. The expiration date on that ID is December 2024, and it is already expired, so it must be at least past that date. 2) In Lewis Prothero’s military records, it states that he was put in charge of the Larkhill detention facility in 2016, meaning V could not have arrived at the facility prior to then. It also says he received a reward for bioscience research in 2017, establishing the St. Mary’s virus as occurring in 2017-2018. 3) in Valerie’s letter, she states that she met her girlfriend, Ruth, in 2015, and they were together for three years before her imprisonment at Larkhill. Therefore, her letter to V could not have been written before 2018, meaning 5 November 2018 is the earliest V could have escaped from Larkhill. 4) In a newscast Evey sees shortly before the end of the film, which takes place a year after the beginning, the St. Mary’s virus is stated as having occurred 14 years before. By the timeframe the movie establishes, that could not possibly have been 2007, as St. Mary’s was created at Larkhill, which opened in 2016. 5) V states that it took ten years to clear the tracks below Parliament. As his escape from Larkhill occurred no earlier than 5 November 2018, the ending of the movie can be no earlier than 5 November 2028.

Assuming that St. Mary’s was unleashed on England at the end of 2017, and V escaped Larkhill on 5 November 2018, it is loosely established that the movie begins on 4 November 2030 and ends on 5 November 2031. 108.53.71.106 (talk) 16:40, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

✗ Not done This request duplicates a discussion already underway in an above section. Argento Surfer (talk) 18:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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