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Sharouser, this is to address your latest restorations and post on my talk page. As you know, in this discussion, I made arguments against creating this article or any article titled "Transgender marriage." I noted that there is not an abundance of coverage on the topic of transgender marriage. I noted that there are barely any academic or news articles on it. I noted that "all I see are brief mentions using the term 'transgender marriage' and usually talking about it in the context of same-sex marriage." I asked, "Where are the sources speaking of 'transgender marriage' as its own entity? How does one define 'transgender marriage'? Who says that it's a marriage where at least one transgender person is the spouse, as opposed to both being transgender, like incarnation stated? What if one or both partners do not consider it a transgender marriage, but rather a heterosexual marriage or a gay marriage?" I noted that "while we're on the subject, I don't see anyone trying to create an Intersex marriage article. What is an intersex marriage?" Another editor (Roscelese) agreed, stating, "where is this 'abundance of coverage' of transgender marriage that isn't just 'how are trans people affected by the legality or illegality of same-sex marriage'?"

You were not able to sufficiently challenge the arguments against creating a Transgender marriage article. You can't source its definition, and any sources you were to add about it would almost always be in the context of same-sex marriage. Your Transgender marriage article does not meet WP:GNG. That you do not understand that is troubling. This "Transgender Marriage and the Legal Obligation to Disclose Gender History" source you mentioned does not make it meet WP:GNG. And the "Can this marriage be saved? Addressing male-to-female transgender issues in couples therapy" source you mentioned certainly does not. That latter source is about issues in a marriage once the partner who was previously considered a husband comes out as transgender; that is something to be covered in the Transgender sexuality article. I do not see how a Transgender marriage article could meet WP:GNG at this point in time. And that you came back to the dead discussion in May to state "I will restore this article in June. I will insert more references.", and no one replied, does not equate to WP:Consensus. Given the statements in that discussion, it isn't correct for you to interpret editors no longer replying to you in that section as silent consensus. There is clearly no consensus there supporting you creating this article. Editors do not need to keep replying to you on the matter. And when they have already made solid cases on the topic of discussion, why would they? It's draining to talk in circles. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 22:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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