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BTW

BTW, is there any chance you could wipe out my user page's history? I've becomed a bit alarmed by the number of administrators recently being stalked, called at work, etc, and I'm afraid I've been vocal about seeing some problem users banned. I just removed some personal information from the page. I'll create a backup page, User:patstuart/userpage; please move it into User:Patstuart after you delete the original. -Patstuart 07:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Society of Friends of Science DYK

I live to serve :) -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  08:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

I just wanted to thank you for your support in my recent RfA, which was successful. I'll do my best to wield the broom wisely! | Mr. Darcy talk 18:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Spam ?

Being an admin one expects a little more restraint in language on your side You can disagree with my POV but to call it ridiculous is not civil. Please see Spamming to check what defines as Spam. A comment left on one other user- who has been party to a dispute being debated is NOT spam. And there is no asking for or against votes either. Haphar 09:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I'm sorry I called your argument ridiculous. Let me rephrase: your rationale is flawed in its argument to the extent that I'm not too sure you understand what's involved in sockpuppetry cases. And yes, any vote-garnering for an ArbCom election is spamming. Your choice of words on User:Anwar saadat's talk page was meant to garner votes. Here's the link: WP:SPAM#Canvassing-- Samir धर्म 09:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

To quote from the WP:SPAM#Canvassing "Briefly, I think a reasonable amount of communication about issues is fine. Aggressive propaganda campaigns are not. The difference lies in the disruption involved. If what is happening is getting everyone upset then it is a problem. Often the dividing line is crossed when you are contacting a number of people who do not ordinarily edit the disputed article." So I do beleive you are taking a very narrow view of the Canvassing, overall this case seems well within the definition quoted above. Haphar 09:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Here's a better quote: "However, it is agreed that disruptive canvassing, even if it seems to be within guidelines below, is never acceptable". Any canvassing of ArbCom votes, particularly with such statements as: "Pls click on link and check the candidates, some of the candidates in contention might surprise you." is inappropriate. -- Samir धर्म 09:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

The first quote is better , for what is "disruptive" is the moot point that qualifies your quote.

Why is my comment inappropriate ? If my beleif is that a candidate in the list is not ok and I am telling another (who has a past history with the candidate). I am letting the person make his own decisions and though my opinion is apparent (I have not hidden it and have discussed it openly) There is no hidden agenda. I am telling a person of arbcom votings and the presence of a candidate who I feel should not be there. While knowing Anwar's history against Blnguyen, I am letting him take his own decision, and hoping it would resonate with mine. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Haphar (talk • contribs) 10:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

This was quite funny

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Once you strip down the sentence to the gist of the matter, both you and Anwar saadat are regarded as POV pushers and both of you hate blnguyen. Its obvious you were unmasked by samir. As for me I feel that certain users should have been blocked long ago for "resonating".Bakaman 23:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Hitler picture

Why do you have a picture of Hitler on your userpage? I thought I clicked the wrong link and couldn't believe that you were an ArbCom candidate when I saw that on your userpage.

Because it's a funny picture, when taken in context with the comment below it. It's hardly glorifying Hitler. Proto::► 11:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok. I guess I don't find Hitler funny -- Samir धर्म 12:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't either. The caption is the funny part. Proto::► 15:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess I didn't get the joke. Sorry -- Samir धर्म 16:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ankit Fadia

Can you take a look at this? Thanks. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

I am feeling a little better. I still have almost no appetite and I'm a little tired all the time. I saw my doctor today though, said my blood pressure is fine and the white blood cell test looked pretty good. NIRVANA2764 01:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

You Decided - No Edit on Ankit Fadia

There is nothing wrong with others. It's all wrong with Indian Misplaced Pages Administrators who have been given rights to modify contents for well purpose of wikipedia. But so sad that though a lot of evidence appears about ankit fadia on internet as well as on this same wikipedia page, you peoples are doing arguements to find reasons. I saw various edits from all you three admins and sent a mail to HO Misplaced Pages with the contents that you reported to be wrong. You want to know who is using this IP? They are all the members of all kalpesh sharma group sharing single IP. Do what you can, do this protest will not stop ? Because peoples of country are being saved. nothing is being done wrong by saying the fact and truth about ankit fadia. You are all three discussing and finding about various reasons to anyway edit ankit fadia contents to what it was and don't want peoples to see the right thing. This is a challenge that if you find any content edited in ankit fadia wiki which is wrong, then come out and debate ?

Misplaced Pages is a reputed name for reputed peoples. Not for Ankit Fadia. If one or two or three articles were wrongly edited, we all might have not edited so many pages. but you are trying to specify that all the content edited about ankit fadia is wrong. Only you peoples are right ? All others are wrong is that what you mean. Then accept our challenge.

one more thing utcarsch, if you think what you mentioned above is right then you are wrong. Mr. Kalpesh always goes with evidence and proofs and that too right in front of eyes instead of barking on wikipedia like ankit fadia's article. As concerns to reputation how can you claim that this editing on wikipedia is because of media publicity. The pages on wikipedia have been edited by our group only from last 15 20 days, whereas ankit fadia's reputation is on net in the first thirty searches of google. First clear your concept and then speak. Go and view the logs of all the pages and urls that are posted in the article written on gather.com by kalpesh sharma itself.

I'd take you seriously if you stopped vandalising my page, the Ankit Fadia article, and dismissing the role of the AfD in judging content -- Samir धर्म 03:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

i still do not know why my article got deleted? any chance of clarification?

:Fine Samir ! Lets come down to point. I recently discussed my matter in last two or three days with Sam on and on Misplaced Pages Founder Jimmy_wales too.

Please go through the following URL where our below debate exists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Samuel_Blanning

Please go through the debate between us where he has specified that "Several reliable secondary sources have written about Ankit Fadia, which means we can write an article about him using those sources."

Then further he specified that "So long as the source is reliable in all other ways, then yes, print sources are just as valid as electronic ones."

He has asked me to resolve the matter for WP:DRV (Review). I posted the matter there but that too was deleted without any specific reason.

Please let me know after going through the communication between me and sam.

One more request. I am an Expert in Security not in wiki shortcut codes. So I am sorry if due to understanding problem i might have done some mistakes unknowingly. I have started posting my article that too three or four times only. Because I was thinking that as wikipedia is a free to edit website, someone might be playing.

Any way please help me to get started. with http://en.wikipedia.org/Kalpesh_Sharma

. Here is the URL of my website where I have scanned and attached all my achievments, print and electronic media articles, radio news certifcate, certificate of work with minister, government stamped certificate of work with india army intelligence, etc.

My website URL is

http://www.esnips.com/web/shriganesh33sbusinessfiles

Kindly please do needfull as wikipedia does for all the notable peoples across globe. Nice talk.

Thanks !

Kalpesh Sharma

What you have to do is go to deletion review and state your case for keeping your article. If it is removed again, let me know and I will repost it. And kindly do not insult my intelligence by claiming that you were making sure someone was not fooling around; you put your article on my user page, on a number of other pages, and on the Ankit Fadia page. That tomfoolery (and your sophomoric commentary above on "Indian Misplaced Pages Administrators") does not give any credence whatsoever to your argument -- Samir धर्म 07:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I was bored, so here are the diffs: , , , , , , , , , . This on top of some 30 deleted edits. This is why people aren't taking you seriously. Maybe you should consider apologizing for your actions? -- Samir धर्म 08:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Samir. Looks like we got bored at the same time!!! Check out User:Aksi_great/Sandbox. I've been compiling this for the past hour. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Please get back on: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Ankit_Fadia#Kalpesh_on_Wikipedia And let me know that Why? can you give details. Utcursch has edited limca book of record on my request from following source: http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/02aug30/national.htm#9 Give me an explanation that on what basis the associated content mentioned above is not reliable source and how daily excelsior is reliable ? Thnx From: Kalpesh Sharma

OOPS I MESSED UP

so why did my page get deleted again? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.210.17.10 (talk) 04:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

Who are you? -- Samir धर्म 04:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

i forgot my username but i had an article titled britain sux and it was deleted within hours...

Oh right. Cause you shouldn't write rant-pieces about countries you hate and why you hate them. Post it on your own website or somewhere else if you have to. Doesn't belong here cause it's not encyclopedic. Understand now? -- Samir धर्म 04:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

gee, i was just asking n yea i understand.....can i write an article that shows historicla blunders of britain?

Yeah, sure, if you can find sources for what you write -- Samir धर्म 04:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

k thx next time ill show u the article to make sure it wont get deleted for same reasons...

Ok, no probs -- Samir धर्म 04:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

re: your message

Thanks. It seems like that page goes through long periods of inactivity and then as soon as I go on to something else, it gets overwhelmed. Academic Challenger 05:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help with the Wtstoffs stuff. —Chowbok ☠ 06:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Flowerykewlstuffz123

• Well, (s)he created a bunch of crappy articles that were deleted and went all over the place defending them. (S)he then added to the Sailor Starlights page that all three characters were the mother of Kakyuu Princess and they changed into men when they were rejected (which only happened in the anime); (s)he tried to say it was stated by one of the Starlights in the manga. I pasted all the lines the character said, none of them remotely match. In any case, most of the edits seem to just be troublemaking. Danny Lilithborne 06:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the kind words, they are much appreciated. TimVickers 18:40, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Starwood Request for comment

As someone who has commented or worked on articles affected by this, you may be interested to know that there is a Request for Comment on Starwood links and a Starwood_Festival/mediation page. --Pigman (talk • contribs) 02:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Samir, thank you for your support in my RfA which passed on 13th December 2006 with a tally of 49/10/5. I am delighted by the result and a little daunted by the scope of additional responsibilities; I shall be cautious in my use of the new tools. I am well aware that becoming an Admin is not just about a successful nomination, but a continuing process of gaining further experience; for this I shall welcome your feedback. Again, many thanks for supporting my RfA :-) David Ruben 03:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

As you'll appreciate, mid-RfA suddenly seemed the wrong moment to be commenting on that RfC Jance (what with having had past involvement both as unofficial mediator and also editor to article) and I heeded advice to "Don't make any noise" during the RfA. So i'll have a look at that RfC in the next couple of days and try and distill down some thoughts :-) David Ruben 03:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Kalpesh Sharma on ANI

Please take a look at this. - Aksi_great (talk) 12:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Re your removal of a thread

Regarding this removal . This editor is actually User:Jake b. After he made an off-topic post on an article talk page, I reminded him to keep the discussion about the improvement of the article, not on general commentary using template mess1. He responded with numerous personal attacks. I'm still waiting for someone to look in to it Misplaced Pages:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard#Jake_b_.28talk_.E2.80.A2_contribs.29.--Crossmr 21:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Samir. Appreciate the time.--Crossmr 21:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Samir. Still regarding this user, Jake b, I would appreciate if you could comment on the statement on his talk page. He keeps removing messages left there and asks users not to use his talk page. It's the first time I see such behavior, but I believe it inherently disrupts the good functioning of Misplaced Pages and therefore I ask your opinion. Also, in order to prevent this in the future I'd like to know if you would support amending Misplaced Pages:User page so that it may state that "users have the right to contact other users on their talk pages". Best regards,--Húsönd 03:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

What action on G. Patrick Maxwell

Could you tell me what WP:Office action was ever taken on this? Anywhere? I do not believe this ever occurred. IN fact, I have since looked at WP:Bio and elsewhere and a court case as a primary refernce, that is well documented, and a published opinion, is very acceptable. Why is it only n ot acceptable in the case of a doctor? I am curious.Jance 04:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Tyrenius was directly involved. I suggest you ask him -- Samir धर्म 06:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Tyrenius also told me that back in August, but I can't find any evidence that it ever actually came under OFFICE protection. Sarah Ewart 07:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

There should be evidence of the OFFICE template and edits by the Dannyisme account if it was under OFFICE. Sarah Ewart 07:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, Samir. I'm not defending any of her edits, I was just responding to the question re whether it ever came under WP:OFFICE. Sarah Ewart 07:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

And that was what I was responding to, as well. It did not come under WP:OFFICE, for good reason. It was not defamatory and it meets WP:Bio requirements. This court case is a well-documented source and the ruling was not reversed. In fact, there was no appeal from the issue in that case. The case was remanded back to the trial court, and Plaintiff voluntarily dismissed the case, evidently on an unrelated issue. What was written was not defamatory. It would have been allowed under Wiki bio guidelines as a relevant, well-documented

source. The trial court was, in fact, bound by that appellate decision. I don't intend adding the comment back, but this was wrong from the beginning. Now, would you mind asking DrOliver to be civil to other editors, since he is personally attacking Dr. Zuckerman and has at least twice in just the last day? Jance 19:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I've explained the issue, I don't know the details of what was discussed, but I do know that your edit to the talk page was inappropriate. It was not wrong to remove it. Do not re-add it. -- Samir धर्म 01:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Please help on breast implant article

Samir, I am hoping you can help on the implant page.

After droliver said in the discussion page that it would be OK to include common complications on the implant page, and given the suggestions of several health professionals on the discussion page, I included the language everyone agree to. Then droliver deleted it all without any explanation except to say that info is not necessary.

Ever since droliver's page was protected he has acted as if the article is his. You have been helpful re the links, so I hope you can help with the content. The article is very long, with considerable technical information, but doesn't een mention many of the most common local complications. Droliver's justification is that if complications are not specific to breast implants, they needn't be mentioned, but necrosis etc are important complications that are mentioned in virtually every other article on implants except this one in wiki. In addition, the "complications" section of the article is currently a misnomer because it includes a lengthy section on systemic diseases, which are not local complications and should be in a separate section.

The bottom line is that despite the consensus of several health professionals that the article is too biased rather than balanced, droliver has reverted even small changes that everyone else agrees to.

I am patiently trying to make small changes, based on peer-reviewed research, when others agree, but droliver just reverts when he disagrees. As an epidemiologist who works closely with physicians, I have never been in this situation before. When I write books or articles, if there is disagreement we discuss it -- one person with a different point of view doesn't just get to delete whatever he doesn't like. I'd be grateful for your help.Drzuckerman 03:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Dr. Zuckerman, we need to work on an NPOV version of that section. Myself and Dr. Ruben have put some suggestions on the talk page. -- Samir धर्म 08:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, can I help too? — Nearly Headless Nick 11:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

..for the message. Guess my penchant for doing some of the most boring work a wiki can offer is finally official.... yay :P --Srikeit 09:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

RVV

It was no problem. It is a part of my everyday work here at wikipedia. God bless.--§Sir James Paul<<--wikiholic§ 11:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

§Sir James Paul<<--wikiholic§ has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

PCD userbox

FYI. There is a new userbox on The Pussycat Dolls. Click on User:Miller17CU94/Userboxes to access. Please pass this around. Merry Christmas! Chris 14:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hi Samir! I just want to say Merry Christmas to you! Have a nice holiday time. If you don't observe this event then I hope you don't mind this greeting. :) - Darwinek 20:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Merry Christmas Samir, and thanks for your very friendly and much-appreciated comment on my talk page :) Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 10:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Page

Thanks for finding and deleting that, Samir. SlimVirgin 20:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Sandbox deletion

What was the last edit to my sandbox? Because I know I didn't do that. ♥ Fredil 21:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I swear, I didn't do it. Can you restore it please? ♥ Fredil 00:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Wait a sec. What the hell? I was nowhere near a computer at 10:11 UTC. I was at school, working on math. ♥ Fredil 00:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I get what happened. I put the db notice on User:Fredil Yupigo/Christmas, and that template was transcluded in the sandbox. But I don't see how "has left Misplaced Pages" got in there. What the hell... And that still doesn't explain the time. ♥ Fredil 00:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah. That diff explains everything. The timestamp was from ages ago, sometime in June. Someone reverted it... but not me. So it explains almost everything. Funny. ♥ Fredil 00:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Sigh Thank you

I haven't even thought about it yet. I suppose I should. You know that there are a number of users who are angry with me don't you? Also, I dread the second question on the nomination form. Redvers was so nice to refer to my editting as gnomic. That is a very kind and generous way to describe the truth I've never written a featured article, or anything close.  :-(. Only a semi-sad face though, because my writing is what it is. Yes, you may go ahead and conominate. That way I will feel guilty about your efforts if I don't submit the nom. Sincerely, --BostonMA 00:26, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that comment was not very gracious of me. You expressed you appreciation of me, and I failed to acknowledge it. I greatly respect you, and I am very much honored that you wish co-nominate me. Please do so and forgive my unmindfulness. Sincerely, BostonMA 03:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

It's fine

Thanks for the apology Samir, no offence was taken. Have a happy holidays (although I know what healthcare is like, and I imagine you will probably be very busy!). Proto::► 11:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Seraphimblade RfA

I caught your comment on the page, I thought I should let you know that I had posted an response. Seraphimblade and I are not really associated. I noticed his editor review was going well when I went to his talk page for advice. The advice he gave and continues to give has helped my progress as an editor. It would be unfortunate for his RfA to fail due to a dispute related to me. Alan.ca 12:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Winterval(s)!!!! (12-22-06)

God (or your deity/deities) bless you and your family! —¡Randfan! 02:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

-I was planning to hand these out on the 22nd of Dec. but things got in the way.... Happy holidays! —¡Randfan! 20:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Singapore Girl

Hello!

Could you help to move Singapore Girl (Singapore Airlines) back to Singapore Girl?

You might also be interested to know that User:YuRiPa has been confirmed as a sockpuppeteer (Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/YuRiPa and Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/YuRiPa).

Sincerely, --Oden 12:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Moved. Thanks for letting me know -- Samir धर्म 12:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Apologies, I believed the article was appropraite for speedy deletion but I'm sure we can come to an agreement. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Regards......Tellyaddict 15:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Teesside Futsal Club Page

Why was it deleted?

Merry Christmas

Saw you're online, so I wish you a merry Christmas. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:36, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!!!

Wherever you are, and whether you're celebrating something or not, there is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! So, may you have a great day, and may your wishes be fulfilled in 2007! Fvasconcellos 16:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Fvasconcellos 16:57, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Yay Hooray?

Why did you delete the page about Yay Hooray? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.139.79.79 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 26 December 2006.

See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Yay Hooray and the deletion log for Yay Hooray. --Oden 09:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFC/NAME - Kuntan

Samir, as best I understand it, the general idea on closing RFCs is that one waits until either (a) consensus has been achieved, or (b) commenting has ceased for some time. In the case of article RFCs, they might stay open for a month. Also, I gather that it is generally not considered good form for an admin personally involved in debating or opposing an RFC to simply delete it while the RFC is still new, has not reached consensus, and is still gathering comments.

The Kuntan RFC was opened at 21:56, 25 December 2006, and comments (including yours, mine, and others') were posted up to 12:19, 26 December 2006. You deleted this RFC at 13:10, 26 December 2006, a bare 51 minutes after the last comment, and less than 16 hours after the RFC was opened. This was also before I had even read the latest comment, and I strongly suspect it was before a number of other people might have read and written comments — though, of course, now I'll never know. No consensus had been reached. There hadn't even been time to try. This RFC was not ripe for deletion.

I gather from your deletion comment that you feel your changing the reason on the block made this RFC moot. Possibly you missed my repeated statements in the RFC that my concern was the precedent set by the original block, a precedent which goes untouched by your change. At this point, any admin could still cite that original block as a precedent, to justify blocking any other user on a charge of "offensive username" if only one bad meaning can be found for it — and, as I demonstrated, such bad meanings could be construed for your own username and even that of Jimmy Wales. How many other users might be targeted on such grounds?

Kindly restore that RFC to its previous location, as soon as possible, so that this precedent may be discussed (and possibly repudiated), and the proper application of WP:USERNAME may be clarified. I would appreciate having the shortest possible interruption in that RFC's availability. Thank you.

(Please note, once again, that the user conduct of this individual is not the topic of the RFC, nor something I have any interest in debating.) – SAJordan _contribs 15:44, 26 Dec 2006 (UTC).

The RfC is closed. The issue is over as the user has been blocked for trolling and not for username. If you have an issue with it, I suggest WP:ANI or filing a user conduct RfC against myself. -- Samir धर्म 10:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

The Pale Pacific

Hey, I checked http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion, and don't see how my article meets the criteria. Please explain! -gert

Accepted Nomination

Hi Samir, I have accepted your co-nomination for a mop. I have notified Redvers and requested that he list the nomination. If it turns out that he is busy with real life, I would be honored to have you list the nomination. I did notice that there is a date on the top that will need to be reset. Sincerely, --BostonMA 22:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)