Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Maunus (talk | contribs) at 11:38, 14 July 2020 (→Anatolian languages). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Mesoamerican Languages

Hi Maunus, I left you a message on your wordpress page, related to the png file with the mesoamerican language distribution. In particular, I was wondering if you'd be OK with me editing the file to color-code the Garifuna language of northern Honduras with a light-blue color, and adding a circle (light-blue as well) to denote a category for the Arawakan languages, of which Garifuna is a member (East Carib sub-category). Thanks!! Awesome article!!! Rtpanneal623 (talk) 28 April 2019

Bon article

Hi Maunus, for information, after translation in French of most of the article Language, I've started a label procedure and mentionned your name ], assuming you were the main author, but correct me if I am wrong. Thanks a again for this beautiful article and for the interaction. Cordially Cathrotterdam (talk) 06:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Cathrotterdam, I am sorry I did not get involved much in the translation process, but am happy to see that you have nominated it for bon article. There are of course other authors of the artivcle, but I think it is correct to consider me the main contriubutor to its current state (User:Rjanag wrote the poart about neurolinguistics, User:Cnilep the part about acquisition). Many thanks for keeping me updated and bonne chance with the nomination.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 07:01, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Much oblige

Thanks for helping out with Swedish language. Good call on the order of sections.

Gonna try to satisfy the concerns over at Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Swedish language/archive2, so help or advice (like good sources) will be most welcome.

And have some pastry for your troubles. :-)

Peter 09:41, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Maunus, I was about to ask about the same thing but met the new multi-coloured edit conflict gadget, more confusing than a whole fairground lit up in twinkly lamps. The article is in pretty good order and deserves to be rescued. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

I have some well-deserved leave this week and I'll start working on the Swedish article. Could you e-mail me the PDF you mentioned in the FAR? I'm sure it could be very helpful.

Peter 10:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually, it turned out to be pretty useless - mostly reading lessons. I will see if I don't receive the two other grammars I ordered sometime during this week.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Isotalo:, now I have Auwera and Koenig and Holmes and Hinchcliffe's "Essential Swedish Grammar" both of which will be useful. I may be able to scan important parts and send them to you.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Seseo

Sorry, I linked to a wrong section. I meant to link to Phonological_history_of_Spanish_coronal_fricatives#Historical_evolution. As you can see, it's clearly wrong to call seseo a "merger of /s/ and /θ/" because accents with seseo have never had the latter in the first place. It's rather like calling the foot-strut split a merger. It's wrong. Mr KEBAB (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, understood now. I have selfreverted my reversion of your change. Thanks!·maunus · snunɐɯ· 17:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Aztec legacy

Maunus, I'll see what I can do next week to improve the article. Amuseclio (talk) 01:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

I will be adding much more to the Aztec legacy section. I hope a Diego Rivera mural image with better resolution can be found. I added the logo for the Cuauhtemoc Moctezuma Brewery in the popular culture subsection. Amuseclio (talk) 04:45, 6 May 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

Aztec etc

Hey I just noticed it's in GAN. I'm busy for the near future, but when we're both done, I'll chip in in any way I can. May be a few weeks tho, sorry. later... Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 05:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey @Lingzhi:, thanks for the statement of moral support. I personally don't mind long GA reviews, as long as the article gets better - but I think the reviewer may well want to have it done earlier than a couple of weeks. But thanks! I know you are working on the Bengal famine article and that there is some sort of what shall we say...hullaballoo...going on with that. I hope you get it solved, so the article can be promoted. Best.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 07:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Bengal famine of 1943 spot checks

• Just let me know if you need any sources. I will email then to you. Thanks! Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 01:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
• No need to do this. Ian Rose closed the FAC. Thanks Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, it would have taken me some time. But it did seem like it was going nowhere. I think some of the objections to the writing style were also valid. I am sorry your work didn't pay off.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

There is a difference between claims and acceptance

Rajus don't claim they are Kshatriyas. They are Kshatriyas and there is acceptance for that. Sharkslayer87 (talk) 13:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Then you need to present the sources that say so unequivocally. And if there are sources that say otherwise then they need to be included as well.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 13:31, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Indigenismo and Indigenismo in Mexico

Dear Maunus, I've proposed merging the two articles Indigenismo in Mexico to Indigenismo. Take a look at the talk pages. I'm surprised the pageviews for both are so low. Where appropriate, I'll pay attention to linking articles I'm working on, which might boost page view stats. I know from your user page that you don't see such debates generating much light, but I think that readers are not being well served by having two articles. It would be great if you could take a moment to weigh in on the talk pages. Amuseclio (talk) 17:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

.Dear Amuseclio, I will take a look, but I must say I don't know enough about indigenismo in South America to assess whether it is reasonable to merge the two. My intuition says it is bette o keep both and then link to the Mexican article from the general article - but it depends a little on whether we can find any literature about indigenismo in general. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 18:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

The article Boycott

Hello! As I understand, the word "boycott" is an eponym since it was derived from the name of Charles Boycott. I think that it is helpful if that is clearly stated in the article. Don't you agree? --Bensin (talk) 12:42, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

No. People can understand that Boycott is named after Charles Boycott without having the word "eponym" in the text. In fact using the word eponym, which most people probably don't know may confuse rather than help the reader. There is no need to link to thre article eponym everytime a word arises as an eponym. The normal and easily understandable way of saying this is saying something is "named after" something else. The word "eponym" is overused in some journalistic genres (notably music journalism), but it is rarely helpful in an encyclopedic context. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:51, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Reading anything may confuse anybody. The beauty here is the possibility to link to other articles so that any reader who does not understand the meaning of what an eponym is may click the link and read that article. My best guess is that anybody reading a section named "Etymology" would appreciate appropriate use of words like "eponym" or "portmanteau". --Bensin (talk) 13:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

The point of an encyclopedia article is not to teach the reader new vocabulary. It is not helpful to force unnecessary jargon into an article and divert the readers attanetion with links to articles that are not necessary in order to understand the article they are reading. It is both better language and more helpful to simply write that Boycott is named for Charles Boycott. Adding the word "epoynym" adds nothing to the article. I admit that removing this kind of abuse of the word "eponymous" is a pet peeve of mine. But I suggest you make an RfC if you want to insist that the word must be included.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 14:00, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

That's OK. Though I disagree that use of "eponymous" would be unnecessary jargon. Instead I think it's an excellent example of the word. I would also expect anyone discouraged by words like that to rather turn to the simple English version of the article. There is no need to drag it out. We may keep you version if you feel strongly about it. Thanks for answering. --Bensin (talk) 14:52, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

It is unnecessary because it can be explained in plain language with no loss of meaning, and it is jargon because not everybody will know it. Most readers don't know there is a simple English version of articles, and any ways they are never very good, and furthermore the fact that this is not the simple English wikipedia does not mean that we shouldn't strive for clear language that is readily intelligible to the average reader.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:22, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

How about doing something like this: named after I'm Underwater (talk) 08:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Aztec warfare Spanish observer

Could you put the name of the Spanish eyewitness that Hassig is quoting about Aztec warfare? Inquiring minds want a primary source. Amuseclio (talk) 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

I can't give the name unfortunately, because the source he cites is the Conquistador Anonimo. But I have added the name of the work he cites and a wikilink.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:10, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Yaqui Genocide

This editor is creating a huge headache. Virtually all their edits are copied from other articles without attribution. I found one where the sources don't match the text, and just sweeping my eye over the sources find things like "Rouse, p.7) with no way of finding out who it is. See my post to Dianna and to the editor. I've redirected one article to Taino. I guess this could be redirect to Yaqui. Doug Weller talk 09:51, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that makes sense - I think redirecting it to Yaqui is a good idea for now.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Which I did, only to be reverted with an edit summary saying he'd already said he was copying (it said " a section copied from another article" in his first edit summary, hardly helpful. I've reverted again asking him to stop. If he continues I think I'll have to take him to ANI. Doug Weller talk 11:50, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank You for Aztec articles Jkrn111 (talk) 17:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Malmø

Hi. Could you help me with the Danish pronunciation of Malmø? Is it perhaps or ? Either way, I assume it has stød because the corresponding Swedish pronunciation has the second toneme (). Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 02:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

looks right for me, though I wouldn't show both length and stød, but only stød. Apparently now, Danish phoneticians have begun to transcribe the stød before the syllable that it affects in which case your second option would be correct.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 08:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'd rather stick to the transcription used on Help:IPA/Danish, but I'm aware that your suggestion is just as correct.

Yeah, but most older sources stick to putting after the syllable. Let's keep it that way for now, at least until the alternative becomes the predominant transcription. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 12:53, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

One more thing: is the transcription of Anders Lindegaard's surname correct? I'm pretty sure that words can have more than one stød, but shouldn't the last syllable be marked as bearing secondary stress? I think Nina Grønnum considers all syllables with stød to be stressed, but I could be mistaken. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 17:17, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't have stød in the first syllable, and the vowel needs to be lower, and the final vowel is rounded (pronounced as å, though spelled with aa). I would write Danish: .·maunus · snunɐɯ· 18:46, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Are you sure about the final vowel though? That doesn't look like a transcription you'd normally see in dictionaries and reference works that use IPA (or at least the IPA-based system for Danish that we call IPA for simplicity). is a rounded vowel, maybe you mistook it for ? Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 19:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Well, going by the IPA/Danish it seems you are right because it does rhyme with "i går" - I just remember being taught using ʌ for that sound - but no matter, {{IPA-da|ɑnɐs ˈlenəɡɒˀ|lang} is fine.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 19:57, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Notification of AfD debate

Hi, I am writing to inform you that an AfD debate has been initiated for the article Environmental inequality in Europe (formerly Environmental racism in Europe). Thanks, Sturgeontransformer (talk) 21:00, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

New Page Patrol?

Hi Maunus,

I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join New Page Patrol, and from your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines; we could use some additional help from an experienced user like yourself.

Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR.

Cheers, and hope to see you around, — Insertcleverphrasehere 21:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Eight years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Trouble at Black Legend

Cateyed, on the second day of his editing here, decided to create The Black Legend, covering Spain, and to reduce the long-established Black Legend page to a rump. Before he got started Black Legend was nearly 34k raw bytes, he then expanded it up to nearly 62K, before removing the Spanish stuff and reducing it to under 10K. I haven't had time to to work through his changes, though it is clear his English will always need a basic check for grammar and spelling, and his additions seem to be reference-free. I didn't think this was acceptable without discussion, so for now I reverted back to a version before his big cut. This page gets over 300 views a day, and has always been somewhat of a target for problems. I haven't formed a view as to whether a generalized "black legend" page is needed, but if it is, I don't think Black Legend and The Black Legend are sufficiently distinct titles. Perhaps this should be resolved by a WP:RM discussion, but I'm asking for preliminary views at the BL talk page first, ideally from those who have looked through Cateyed's many additions, at BL and at the other article. You're one of the top editors, so I'm informing you. Johnbod (talk) 01:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Aztec

Maunus, it looks like you never transcluded this DYK nomination of your GA article, and the trail was further muddied by the moving of Aztec to Aztecs a few days later.

Did you still want to pursue the DYK now that this has been discovered? I'll happily take care of fixing the nomination template and transcluding it if you'd like to continue with it. Please let me know. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Nah, doesnt matter.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:14, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Danish language

The article Danish language you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Danish language for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  02:11, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

The Quarter Million Award

	The Quarter Million Award
	For your contributions to bring Danish language (estimated annual readership: 7005423793000000000♠423,793) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Quarter Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Misplaced Pages's readers!  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

The Danish Barnstar for you!

	The Danish Barnstar of National Merit
	For virtually writing the new Good article Danish language all by yourself. Impressive dedication!  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Mr. Guye (talk · contribs)! And thanks for the kind review.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 01:23, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

WikiProject Folklore Invitation

I've recently started WikiProject Folklore to better get a handle on the many problems surrounding Misplaced Pages's coverage of this topic. You're welcome to join! :bloodofox: (talk) 23:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Lule Sami language source

I've been wanting to improve the Wiki page for the Lule Sami language of the Sami people of Norway and Sweden. The sources I've came across seem rather limited to obtain, but perhaps there can be a way for you to obtain a source. One source that I came across was "Lulesamisk Grammatik" by Nils Eric Spiik. If there is any way for you to obtain this source, or perhaps another source for the Lule Sami language if possible, that would be great. Thank you. Fdomanico51997 (talk) 18:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I actually ordered it from my university library, but I never got it. When I come home from summer travels I will check up on it again.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 19:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Great, please do keep me posted! I would like to know when you have a source. Fdomanico51997 (talk) 23:37, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, but are you back from summer travels yet? Fdomanico51997 (talk) 12:52, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Dude, I have other things to do as well than editing wikipedia. I will let you know when and if I get it. Meanwhile there are 6,999 other languages to work on.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Not a problem, take your time :) Fdomanico51997 (talk) 15:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

User:Maunus do not worry, the Lule Sami phonology was just taken care of by someone else. You do not need to stress it. Fdomanico51997 (talk) 23:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

They didn't cite any sources though, I will add the sources when the books come. I ordered them yesterday.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:27, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Fdomanico51997 (talk · contribs) - unfortunately Spiik's grammar does not provide an actual phoneme inventory, but it seems clear that the language has more vowels than what is given in the inventory in the article, it has the letters å and æ that are apparently pronounced and . ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 08:29, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the incest article

I believe you'd find it useful to read this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Citing_sources . If, as you claim, that unsourced section was a "standard anthropological argument" no doubt you'd find it easy to properly cite those standard arguments. Take care. Openlydialectic (talk) 17:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

A book was cited in the same paragraph summarizing the argument. Why are you even editing the article if you aren't reading the literature on the subject?·maunus · snunɐɯ· 07:32, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Jean-François Champollion

Hi, regarding this edit, it seems there was some text accidentally deleted or something, because this sentence doesn't really make sense. It's still there as-is in the article now. Please take a look. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:51, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

fixed.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 19:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

This has gone far enough

Talk:Homo_erectus#Homo_capensis -- diff. I invite you to go easy on the personal attacks. If you feel your attacks are really justified, you should provide actual diffs where I express ideological racist sentiment.

I already know such diffs do not exist, because I know I do not hold such views. I am in fact extremely bored by people bringing their political ideology to Misplaced Pages. But it is still possible that extremely uncharitable reading may cause you to falsely interpret things I do say.

If you continue to attack me my supposed motivations in this way, I will be forced to consider this a purely administrative matter under Misplaced Pages editing policy. --dab (𒁳) 10:39, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

I apologize for the personal comment, which was not warranted, but not for the strong sentiment f the statement which very much was. You are yourself very clearly bringing your own political ideology, and making uninformed statements about fields of science that you apparently know too little about. The statement I am responding to is itself an ideological racist statement which repeats a kind of racism of the most extreme kind - namely multispecial racism that has not had any scientific backing for almost 70 years, not even amongst the most race-happy scientists on the political right. What you said is despicable both because it slanders an entire discipline of science as being politically rather than empirically motivated without any supporting evidence, and because it implies that a group of human beings belong to a different species than the rest of us. I am not afraid of you taking any action you deem necessary, because that statement is so far beyond the pale of what one should be able to say on wikipedia in both of these senses that i am confident that you will not be the editor coming out well by drawing further attention to it. I may be wrong, the world has certainly turned in odd ways lately. Do what you have to do. If you somehow did not mean to suggest that Khoisan peoples are only considered part of our species because of political correctness among scientists, then I suggest you make it very clear what you did in fact intend to say.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 11:28, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

Hello, Maunus. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry

		Happy Christmas!
		Hello Maunus, Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?" My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 03:50, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

HAU: Journal of Ethnographic Theory: Revision history

Hi Maunus. Why are you undoing without an explanation the edits? This is edit-warring. It is clear this entry needs a third neutral editor. Do you agree? If so I will convene one. There has been to much activist-vandalising of this entry for it to seem fair. Let's discuss a fair resolution xiccahua cahualoz.Thestudentspirit (talk) 21:07, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

I did provide an explanation. The article on HAU is not the correct place for providing a discussion of what bullying is. It is beside the point and has nothing to do with the topic of the article. Reverting good faith edits that are of dubiosu value is a normal part of the editing process. It was not edit warring untill you reinserted my removal of your addition. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 21:40, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy 2019

SAPhon

Hello Maunus, Have you ever came across the site SAPhon (South American Phonological Inventory Database)? It is a site run by UC Berkeley dedicated to collect phonological data of numerous amounts of South American indigenous languages. If you have seen it, how credible or reliable is it to use as a source? The site is currently managed by Lev Michael and Emily Clem at UC Berkeley. The link is below: http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/~saphon/en/about.php Please let me know your take on it. Thanks. Fdomanico51997 (talk) 06:45, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I would consider this a reliable source. Unless of course it is contradicted by other better sources (such as original phonological descriptions of the language by descriptive linguists who have worked with those languages and published in journals or books). ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:38, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Indo-european migrations

How am I overdoing it? What would you suggest? Sweet6970 (talk) 07:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

No need to add "theory" and "hypothesized" every other sentence. This is the best understood lanaguge family in the world. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm happy in general with your latest revision, but there is something missing at the end of the first sentence. And - the I-E language family may be well-understood, but the migrations are still highly disputed. Sweet6970 (talk) 10:40, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

What is disputed is the location of the homeland and the route of the migrations, not that migrations happened. And the dispute is not very strong it is down to two models, which may infact even be partly compatible if Yamnaya culture is IE -Anatolian. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:02, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

I see you have now completed the first sentence. Thanks. Cheers! Sweet6970 (talk) 12:16, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for working on it as well, the article can certainly be improved.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Maybrat language

Hi, I recently nominated Maybrat language for WP:DYK, and it seems this is on track to reach the main page in a couple of days. I just wanted to double check with you whether the hook is not open to misinterpretation. It makes reference to the fact that the language uses base-5 numerals. That's probably the only thing in this article that could both be of interest to the general reader and be expressible in the brief sentence required by the DYK format. A potential problem is that it might conceivably invite some readers to regard the language as "primitive": see, it's not "advanced" enough to use a base-10 system, it's happy enough with base-5 and with counting on fingers and toes. What do you think? – Uanfala (talk) 13:55, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@Uanfala:, thanks. This looks fine to me. If someone thinks a base-ten systenm is more "advanced" than a base-five system, then the joke is on them.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 17:31, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Decipherment of ancient Egyptian scripts

Hello, Maunus. I'm planning on a rewrite of decipherment of ancient Egyptian scripts, and I've written up a draft of what's going to be the central section at User:A. Parrot/sandbox. The final article will cover the nature of the scripts, the pre-Rosetta efforts on hieroglyphs, and the work done after the mid-1820s, but as this is the section that addresses everything from the discovery of the Rosetta Stone to Champollion's Précis, it's the crucial one. I think I've managed a pretty careful examination of which scholar accomplished what and when, and an even-handed treatment of the priority dispute between Young and Champollion, but I'm seeking second opinions. Given that you worked on the article on Champollion, your opinion would be valuable.

Please ignore anything contained between percent signs; I use them to denote text I'm unsure of, or notes to myself.

One particular question—should Antoine-Isaac Silvestre de Sacy be called "Silvestre de Sacy", "de Sacy", or "Sacy" when referring to him by his surname? The sources I'm using can't seem to agree! A. Parrot (talk) 23:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete citations

Hi, Maunus. A few years ago you expanded the article Danish dialects; however, all the shortened footnotes are not tied to any longer source. Is it possible for you to add them? —Biscuit-in-Chief :-) 20:21, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome

Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:22, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

English language

Hello. Please explain what should be explained concerning the grammar examples. Is there not a short explanation after each example? You do know that those grammar examples were there for several years already and that i just enhanced them? So, please tell me what should have to be explained, and why those explanations were never there since the grammar examples exist, even before i enhanced them. There was also never a source for the translations, because every dictionnary is a source for them.ArchitectMan (talk) 17:02, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

And i hope you realized that those examples are there to illustrate the text right above them. Furthermore, you seem to be the only one considering those examples "irrelevant".ArchitectMan (talk) 17:12, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

You shouldn't be editing GA or FA articles wihout first understading the quality criteria, and making sure that your edits conform to the criteria. Otherwise you are simply making other editors efforts go to waste and degrading the articles. The article was written by a group of editors and went through a detailed peer review with several other editors involved and no one argued that we needed to dump aload of examples of cognates between germanic languages in the classification section. So no, you are the only one who has considered it relevant, and who keeps dumping it in there without consensus. IN a hihg quality article everything, including examples needs to be sourced to high quality sources, and every piece of material needs to be directly relevant to the topic of the section and the article. Dumping random collections of words that aren't even formatted in a way permitted by the MOS just means that the article will be delisted as a GA and provides no value to anyone. Please read the GA criteria and FA criteria before making further edits to articles that have passed peer review. If you insist on including it, you will need to make a RfC at the talk page to get consensus for the addition.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 02:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

It seems as if you are trying to pretend that those examples didn't relate to the text at all, when in reality they of course did :-)

Some shared features of Germanic languages include the division of verbs into 1) strong and weak classes, the use of 2) modal verbs, and the sound changes affecting Proto-Indo-European consonants, known as 3) Grimm's and Verner's laws. English is classified as an Anglo-Frisian language because Frisian and English share other features, such as the 4) palatalisation of consonants that were velar consonants in Proto-Germanic.

→ four grammatical traits mentioned in the text → four examples

Of those four examples, three were already there, and i just added one (modal/non-modal verbs), because it was strange that there were examples for all grammatical traits but one. Three examples were already there when GA status was granted, and there were never sources for the translations.

→ The grammar examples were already there when GA status was granted and even then, there were no sources for the translations.

You would therefore have to justify your consideration of the examples being "irrelevant".

It is also strange that you claim sources for Dutch and German word-by-word translations, while other things like this sentence in the introduction:

The earliest forms of English, a set of Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Great Britain by Anglo-Saxon settlers in the 5th century, are called Old English.

(How can Anglo-Frisian dialects have been brought to great Britain when the Anglic languages only began to evolve there?)

or this diagram:

(Low German is not Low Franconian) didn't bother you at all. I am also wondering why large vocabulary lists like this one: Germanic languages#Vocabulary comparison, are not sourced. Please let me know your thoughts on all this.ArchitectMan (talk) 07:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

A comparativce article about a language family is a logical place for a list of comparative vocabulary. Germanic languages is not a GA and its decisions about sourcing and therefore cannot be used as comparison for a GA level article. Please please try to understand what a GA is and how to make sure your edits do not degrade the quality of an article before making edits top articles that have undergone peer review. Ask your content questions at the discussion page, and please pose your ideas for improvements there for discussion before making further edits without consensus. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:41, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

2019 US Banknote Contest

	US Banknote Contest
	November-December 2019
There are an estimated 30,000 different varieties of United States banknotes, yet only a fraction of these are represented on Wikimedia Commons in the form of 2D scans. Additionally, Colonial America, the Confederate States, the Republic of Texas, multiple states and territories, communities, and private companies have issued banknotes that are in the public domain today but are absent from Commons. In the months of November and December, WikiProject Numismatics will be running a cross-wiki upload-a-thon, the 2019 US Banknote Contest. The goal of the contest is to increase the number of US banknote images available to content creators on all Wikimedia projects. Participants will claim points for uploading and importing 2D scans of US banknotes, and at the end of the contest all will receive awards. Whether you want to claim the Gold Wiki or you just want to have fun, all are invited to participate. If you do not want to receive invitations to future US Banknote Contests, follow the instructions here

Sent by ZLEA at 23:30, 19 October 2019 (UTC) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk)

RfD

Hi, I've nominated the redirect Endangered langauge for deletion. The discussion is at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 4#Redirects with "langauge". Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 14:11, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Greetings

About once a week an editor pops into my mind and I think, "What happened to that person?" You're this week's editor. I see that you have been sporadically active but I just wanted to say that your contributions are valued (and missed, where they are no longer appearing). I'd love to see your name popping up at FAC more often. --Laser brain (talk) 13:09, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 election voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2019 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:05, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

		Best wishes for a healthy and prosperous 2020.
		Thank you for your contributions toward making Misplaced Pages a better and more accurate place. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 14:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Anatolian languages

Hi Maunus. Do you know if there are there Uralic loans in the Anatolian languages? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 11:15, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Joshua, I have to say I don't. I have some colleagues who I believe consider Uralic loans to be present in the earliest layers of IE, which would then presumably include Anatolian - but I am not sufficiently knowledgeable toa ssess how strong a consensus there is about the uralic contact theory at present. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 11:38, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Editing philosophy

Hello Maunus, (or hello again, since I'm certain that we have conversed on a talk page many years ago).

Based upon the list on your user page, we seem to have come to similar places (by very different paths) with regard to editing WP, and I would appreciate any comments you might make on what I have written on my user page, which includes a reference to Language as an example of expert authorship. I have a similar degree of authorship (~75% of the word count) for two GA articles, one being Native American mascot controversy. Oddly, this article just drew the attention of a Georgetown University student editing as part of an assignment that used an article by you about WP as background.

Any response will be appreciated, --WriterArtistDC (talk) 04:15, 14 July 2020 (UTC)