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10/09/2006: I just documented the incident that happened in Joplin, Missouri. Sakamura
2nd ammendment
"In the United States, the power to own a gun is widely seen as a constitutional right" actually it IS a constitutional right, because it's in the constitution. This makes it seem like some people actually dispute that the 2nd ammendment exists...
Kent State Shootings
I removed Kent State from the list. It was a tragedy, sure, but it was an instance of rioting students vs. National Guardsmen. There was no hostake taking or desire for bloodlust on the part of the shooters as it's clear that either is the case in any school massacre.Equinox137 17:34, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it should be removed completely. It could be noted as "possibly considered a school massacre."--Daveswagon 17:19, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- It was students, teachers and staff getting killed on campus from gunfire. Who fired isn't truly revelent in the context it is a massacre at a school. Hence "school massacre".
Gun Control
In both Dunblane and Erfurt, the attacker was an adult. It's only in the USA that the attackers are children. This is due to the wide availability of guns in the USA and the irresponsibility of the US media which rewards psychopaths and serial killers, triggering waves of copy-cat crimes.
- This is an article on school massacres, not gun control. Please stick to the topic and sign your posts on talk pages. MagnoliaSouth 03:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- In Erfurt, the attacker was a recently-expelled former student. At 18, he hadn't yet finished the equivalent of German high school. (Because Germany has a "13th grade", so to speak, students don't finish secondary schooling until age 19.) Additionally, my general sense of German culture is that an 18-year-old is still considered to be young (note emphasis) adult, if not still a teen-ager. He is, after all, still one year shy of his high-school diploma! So, I think the Erfurt shooting can be considered to be a shooting performed by a "child" in the sense you mean it, Ark (which I read as "students killing other students or teachers"). Pgdudda
- But he wasn't considered a child by his gun club, nor whatever authorities hand out gun licenses. Also, he was repeating his last year so he was 19. In his own mind, he was probably an adult.
- There was one a few years back up here in Canada, or at least an attempt at one. Saying "only in the USA" is far too dogmatic, and your explanation for why it only happens in the USA is unsupported at best. Besides, the article doesn't say that all attackers are children, just that normally the perpetrators are students. Bryan Derksen
- Well, the one in Canada was in Alberta, which is rather more a gunny place than, say, Ottawa.
- Plus, the Taber, Alberta massacre was a replica of the Columbine massacre. Canada gets American mass media, and suffers the consequences.
- student versus child
- Which is why I didn't change the article right then and there.
- And the reason it happens in the USA is well-supported, though the article I read on it, condemning the media, was obviously not widely reported in the media. But since I read that several years ago, I don't know where to look for it.
- This argument is pointless. The articles talk about school shootings, I.E. shootings that take place at a school. It doesn't matter whether it was perpetrated by adults or children. If this was the case, Ecole Polytechnique should also be removed. If this were an article about child perpetrators of school shootings, then I'd agree. Also, stop being an idiot, just because you hear it reported by the American media doesn't mean this only occurs in the US. I guess you've enver heard of school shootings and stabbings daily, all over the world. Heck, even this article mentions the shooting death in Argentina back in September. Leave the Yanks alone!
Let's not get too excited here people. The reason these things gain attention is not because they're common, it's because they're incredibly rare. --Robert Merkel
That's right. The everyday killing of thousands of children by car drivers, well those are just common killings. The smaller number of firearms homicides ....
Something doesn't get reported just because it's "rare". It gets reported because it's horrific. Especially if there are established interests against it being reported. Like say, the NRA. I don't understand your point; which is probably why I don't have a point either. -- Ark
- What I was trying to imply was simply that these things are so rare that coming to any conclusions about their nature and causes is difficult because they're simply isn't enough data. --Robert Merkel
Which is nonsense since it rests on the assumption that school massacres are not simple extensions from other social phenomena like school killings. What reason do you have to suppose there is a discontinuity in the motivations between school massacres and mere killings?
- That may or may not be the case. The fact is that getting murdered at school is *extremely* rare, and getting killed in a massacre like this is even more so, particularly as we can name most of the instances of it individually. Their rarity needs to be made clear - taking a few tragic, yet extremely isolated incidents as a conclusion that kids today as a whole are screwed up is irrational hysteria --Robert Merkel
- Kids have always been screwed up. And adults even more so. Yet school massacres are a recent phenomenon. Perhaps kids are more screwed up today because of some factor like the mass media (not a possibility to be casually dismissed). Perhaps they just have more access to guns. But obviously, something's different in the equation.
- Whatever the explanation may be, I find your dismissal of any and all proposed theories (even before seeing them!) to be odious. Here we have an important social phenomenon and you'd seek to silence everyone about it by calling them "hysterical"? -- Ark
And I wish wars were excluded from the list. And especially current wars. (I'm reasonably sure I can find a reference to IDF forces bombing Palestinian schools, killing more than 5 people in the process. So let's close this particular can of worms while we still can.) -- Ark
- Actually, I can't recall any cases in which the IDF has bombed a Palestinian school, much less killed anyone inside one. I find it interesting that you describe the Maalot masacre as a belonging to a "can of worms" - do you consider deliberately taking over a school and slaughtering pupils inside it an ethical gray area? --Uriyan
im trying to seed a commonalizing here of these issues under atrocities, though this word has a lot of color in it and mass killing might be more encompassing... Sv
Later I will try to find info on the shooting in Goddard Kansas. While maybe not a masacre.
7-year-old killer in SA
6 or 7 years ago there was a (male) first-grader in South Africa who killed a (female) 6-year-old classmate, saying, "I don't like you." Can't remember names, places, etc., but it was a school shooting (though not a massacre, but school shooting redirects here), and quite remarkable for the age of the shooter. --Taejo | Talk 11:25, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Shooting in School in my county
I don't know if you heard the news, but last January, a teenager bought a fake gun (I think it was a pellet) to Milwee Middle School in Longwood, Florida. Mistaken for a real gun, the school evacuated the students. However, in the bathroom, the boy was fataily shot was shot by the SWAT. He died in Sunday at a hospital and his organs were donated. More information can be found here:
- I don't think I would say this was a school massacre. It was a mistake and only one death resulted in that mistake. MagnoliaSouth 03:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
It should be mentioned in Attempted Murder and Exposed Plots, and is notable due to the "perpetrator" death, if you could call him that. You are talking about Chris Penley, right?
Massacre vs. Another Word
What do we use as a definition of "massacre"? I vote for 5 or more deaths since that's the standard for a serial killer (or so the movies claim).
- Yes, what makes the difference between a "school massacre" and a "school killing"? According to my dictionary, a masscare is a brutal or cruel murder/killing. The qualification brutal/cruel is rather subjective, and therefore maybe not suitable for use in an encyclopedia - unless a specific incident is commonly called that way. If we take Columbine, f.e., Columbine Shooting appears to be used as frequently as Columbine Massacre. Anyway, it should be clear from the article if there is any distinction, and if so, why. jheijmans, Friday, June 28, 2002
- According to wiktionary, a massacre is "The killing of a considerable number of human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty, or contrary to the usages of civilized people;" It is very subjective as you say, but at least it points to more than one and this article lists a number of incidents that resulted in only one death. Clearly some should not be listed. Do you think a RFC is in order? MagnoliaSouth 03:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- I hope you don't mind, but I moved this question to its own heading. It was under Gun Control, which isn't quite the right place. :) The standard for serial killers vary. Some states say only more than one murder. Five is really a high number when it comes to school killings. Take the instance of the student who only killed four, but injured twenty-five. There is no question that it was, indeed, a massacre, but I have to agree with you on another point. There are many listed in this article that clearly are not school massacres. Some are deaths from a typical school fight between only two people and where one pulled a knife on the other, and some are directed at only one person resulting in only one death. To me a massacre is where there is more than only one victim. MagnoliaSouth 03:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
School Shooting is more NPOV. It's also what is most commonly used in the media. I don't thing I have ever seen massacre used. A school shooting could leave none dead, the would be killer could be imcompetent. A massacre necessitates multiple deaths, Not just a few or none. stargate70
Canton Highschool Coach Shooting
I'm thinking of deleting this as it's a minor news story, and can in no way be
considered 'notable'.TheOtherFonz 11:38, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok it's been deleted- the main article is proposed for deletion anyway.TheOtherFonz 13:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
There should be a separate page for mass shootings
There is a difference in single one-on-one events and mass shootings. Some of the mass events have been tied to computer use and video game playing.
The problem is not the content of the games but a little known 'conflict of physiology' related to the vision startle reflex.
Sudden violence appears around the world as Culture Bound Syndromes. Amok, Malaysia, iich'aa among the Navajo, and Going Postal in the United States. It was first noted as Cabin Fever among mountain men, fur trappers, in the 1830's. They preferred to over-winter alone in small cabins rather than risk that their cabin-mate would go berserk and try to kill them.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Culture_Bound_Syndromes.htm
A definite cause was discovered in the 1960's.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/modern_cubical.htm
The Redlake school shooter left a journal entry describing what he did to create exposure to Subliminal Distraction.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Red_Lake_School_Shooting.htm
There have been mental breaks and violence on scientific expeditions and on Russian space missions, Soyuz 21. One Russian killed another with a hatchet in an argument over a chess game. There have been fist fights over chess games on Russian space stations.
http://visionandpsychosis.net/Astronauts_Insanity.htm
L K Tucker 68.223.107.250 19:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- A Russian killed another with a hatchet while on a space mission? Reference? I *think* you mean "once in history somebody was killed over a chess game argument" which isn't too suprising: if Hollywood is to be believed cowboys were shooting each other over card games every half hour in the Wild West... but I'd be interested to hear if somebody was killed while in space with an axe... --82.133.79.7 14:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Graphic
In the graphic associated with this page one of the locations noted is "Philadelphia" but the arrow points to someplace near the center of the state. The page from where the graphic comes mentions a shooting outside a Philadelphia school but as a citizen of that city who knows the area where it occured I can tell you that this was not a isolated or uncommon occurance. As this page is about notable mass shootings in schools I think the use of this graphic should be reevaluated and a more informative one found.
Not that my opinion matters as Misplaced Pages is open to everyone, but I was the one who uploaded that image onto wikipedia and I can see your point in removing it, I will try to find a more accurate map. 60.229.14.71 13:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
"the Secret Service urges adults to ask about behavior: "What has this child said? Does he have grievances? What do his friends know? Does he have access to weapons? Is he depressed or despondent?""
If this part of the article is factually accurate, I give eternal credit to the FBI or CIA or whatever for not warning parents about music or dress ense or any other classically percevied stereotypes of school shooters.
Cleanup
This article jumps around in tense (especially the accounts of the killings) and is generally hard to read. I have tagged it for editing, as well as editing some of the mistakes myself. Splendour 15:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I proofread this article a little and made a few minor punctuation edits. I think this could use some major substantive editing in addition to copy editing. As you say, it's hard to read and seems unfocused. It may help to re-organize it. - Marphilly August 6, 2006
This page seems to glorify these crimes
The paragraphs 'Notable School Shooters' and 'Notable School Msssacres' seem to this.
I agree that the wording is incorrect.I already forgot 11:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not so sure we should say that the victims "Deserved what they got"
In most cases they did though, through systematic bullying and exclusion. School shooters tend to target individuals and groups that have victimized them. This only applies to shootings where the shooter/s is/are a student/s, of course.
Alleged
A suggestion in case there are any editors here who monitor or try to maintain this particular article, I think a number of events should be referred to as "alleged attacks". The entire section : "Foiled or exposed plots" is a good candidate. - BalthCat 05:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
moved from List of massacres
Please process accordingly. `'mikka (t) 20:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Wow, could it be more incorrect? Besides, Kip Kinkel's rampage wasn't a massacre, it was just a tragic shooting. Lach Graham 12:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
What is 'infamous'?
The trend at the moment seems to be that any new school massacre is immediately added to the 'infamous' list. Older ones, and particularly but not exclusively ones outside North America get added to the 'Other' lists. Do we actually have some idea of what distinguishes an 'infamous' massacre? Thayvian 22:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with you here. Probably should be a minimum limit, like >10 casualities or something similiar. Ddahlberg 00:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- We need to come to a conclusion before we randomly add every school shooting to "Infamous".. what SHOULD be done is that that list SHOULDN'T be there. --Ddahlberg 22:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'm going to define "Infamous" as > 5 deaths and/or a stand off lasting more than 3 hours. Feel free to discuss (though no one has been doing that). --Ddahlberg 14:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- A more accurate description might be "Massacres with many casualties" or something like that. Given that we have the category, I'm not sure that the "Other" list should be there. Thayvian 21:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that could be a more appropriate definition, though we may have to define "many" unfortunately as it doesn't clear up much of the "vagueness" that was brought about by this in the first place. --Ddahlberg 15:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- Judging from the article, I would say either 10 or 15 deaths would be a good cut-off point. Thayvian 08:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Recent spike
In the last 3 weeks, there have been 4 school shootings in North America. Has anyone else noticed this? --Jay(Reply) 20:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
There was one in Indiana, but I didn't see it here, was that one that you were mentioning? It was an old Amish one room school house, and it wasn't anybody from the school, as the recent one in Colorado, if anybody knows more about it they should put it up here. Straightxedger 00:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Other primary and elementary school killings
I changed the name of the school in Greenwood, SC to Oakland Elementary. It is not Greenwood Elementary in Greenwood, BC as was linked. Ppalmer21 21:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)ppalmer21
Biased listing?
I can't help notice that the listings in this article contained mostly on events that took place in english-speaking countries, with few from foreign countries. Obviously english-speakers aren't likely to be reading other language newspapers or that the media may fail to mention it or simply that such phenomenon happens mostly in the aformentioned countries. In any case, this may be a good venue for expanding this article about non-english school shootings and maybe for foreign language articles too.--Janarius 01:10, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Very scary recently
Apparently the Amish shooting was the 24th one this year in the US...that's..really scary for me. Especially with the people in my school. Didn't really know where to discuss this, but..just had to get it off of my chest.
- I understand that these things are disturbing, but the odds of them affecting you is so miniscule that it's simply not worth worrying about.
- There are, apparently, roughly 50 million Americans in school. Let's assume that these shootings continue at the current rate, and there's about 32 school shootings. So let's take a rough guess and say that there will be 50 deaths this year from school shootings.
- Your chances of dying in a school shooting, per year, are then, quite literally, one in a million.
- These events get attention not because they're common, but because they are incredibly rare. You're more than 100 times more likely to die in a car accident, abd you are tens of thousands of times more likely to live a long life and die of a heart attack in your nineties.
- Spending your time worrying about an event that is extremely unlikely to happen would seem to me to be a complete waste of time. Hug your parents, pat your dog, go outside and enjoy the sunshine, if you have a girl/boyfriend give them a kiss, and appreciate the gift of life. --Robert Merkel 02:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that there is a low order of probability of death by shooting in schools. However, the families of survivors are undeniably distressed and the news media centers not just upon the actual event/s but also many follow-up stories. T.E. Goodwin 06:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Ugh
I can't even get past the intro in this one. Not only is it very US-centric, but makes stereotypes and generalizations about acts of violence. Take, for example:
In the United States, everyday school violence, such as beatings and stabbings, especially of the gang-related sort, is more common in working-class, inner-city schools. However, student-perpetrated school massacres most often occur in overwhelmingly white, middle class non-urban areas (i.e. small towns and suburbs) where they receive the most media attention due to their severity in a brief period of time
I'm gonna do a little research and get this cleaned up. Any ideas are, of course, welcome. -Maverick 04:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the particular example should be either removed or cited. If you're in a position to do that, unfortunately, I'm not.
peace,Bassman444 21:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Need for a comprehensive list on this page?
Do we need a comprehensive list of every school massacre the editors can come up with on this page? Those tables have never been particularly readable. Now that the categories are in place, can't we reduce the article to listing the "infamous" massacres (see discussion above)? Thayvian 21:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Are school massacres very Rare?
Like terrorist attacks, school massacres very rare yet traumatic. For an individual student, the odds of dying in such an attack are utterly miniscule. Despite this, they receive extensive media coverage and often result in nationwide changes of school discipline and security policies.
I've never contributed to a wiki before so didn't want to go ahead and edit the quoted paragraph, but in light of the recent attacks in the US i feel the statement that draws a parallel between the frequency of terrorist attacks and school massacres is inaccurate and poor. The fact that there have been 24 school shootings this year in the US is staggering.
What is wrong with these people? The fact that this kind of crime is on the up is without doubt and I believe that it walks hand-in-hand with the world, on the whole, going to pot. This is humanities nervous breakdown. Unfortunately were on a one-way fare, but for the sake of the children and the love of God, ban the bloody guns.
Forgive my insensitivity at this time, my heart is with all the victims and their families, but i am very angry and sad.
- Roughly 16,700 murders and "nonnegligent homicides" occurred in the United States last year (which is down significantly from the 24,000-odd in the 1990s . Compared to the overall murder rate (which is itself quite rare, though much more common than in rest of the Western world), the number of people murdered in school is, thankfully, negligibly small. Children are much, much safer in school than they are at home (they are much more likely to be murdered at home by a family member than they are in school).
I did not contend the fact that the number of deaths caused by shootings in schools is low and that it is extremely unlikley that an individual will be harmed in such an event. Just the fact that you compared the frequencey of these attacks to the frequency of terrorist attacks which is clearly inaccurate.
- I made the edit, and I stand by it. Both terrorism and school shootings have provoked reactions completely disproportionate to the actual risk they pose because of their sensational nature. --Robert Merkel 23:27, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- And if you want a really staggering fact, try this, . Doctors and nurses' mistakes result in at least 44,000 premature deaths annually. That's an old study, but more recent ones indicate that the rate hasn't changed much. Even allowing for the fact that many of those, to be blunt, were in very elderly people who probably would have died soon after anyway, even if 1% of those deaths involved children that's a much higher risk than school massacres. But why aren't we hounding the medical profession to clean up their act, and politicians to act to make/help them do so? --Robert Merkel 23:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
The UK has only one such incident in history: the dunblane massacre and Thomas Hamilton legally owned the weapons though membership of a pistol club (since the event all .22 cartridge handguns were outlawed) and shotguns are controlled stringently. Excluding air rifles, children in the UK do not generally have access to guns. If pistols were lying around family homes i feel the number of such events would be a lot greater.
Targeting Females
Nowhere in the article is there a mention that a common theme of several of the shootings has been targeting females exclusively. I find this omission very curious. Has such a section existed and subsequently been removed or was there never such a section. In either case, I feel one is definitely needed. Comments?
topher67 20:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Birchland Park Middle School
A student at BPMS made what he called a death list with the names of people he didn't like on MySpace.com. He was caught immediately and is currently under suspension until further notice. It is not known if he meant to kill anyone, but for the time being, shouldn't we put it under "Foiled or Exposed Plots"?
Reason for deleting Gill?
As of 03:16, 12 October, Kimveer Gill's name was removed from the list "infamous shooters" within this article, but the remover did not add an edit summary. Anyone know why this would have been removed? He did not kill that many students, but neither did some others on the list, and his case has been especially prominent, partly due to the sensationalistic nature of his web postings. Lawikitejana 07:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
October 4, 2006, Evans, Georgia incident?
From the article:
- On October 4, 2006 an unknown student at Evans High School, Evans, Georgia posted a threat in the boys bathroom wall promising blood shed on October 4th 2006. It was quoted to say " The Blood of The Innocent Will Run at Evans on October 4th ." The school was placed on lockdown but no attacks were commenced.
Is this relevant? I'm sure there have been plenty of empty threats posted in middle school or high school bathrooms that never materialized. Jeff Silvers 17:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Statistics
I'd like to see some statistics with some reliable sources about how much of a per capita increase or decrease we have had in school shootings over the years.-TheRealdeal
Stabbing?
I have hered from one of my teachers that in Woodrow Wilson High School, during the prom, that another student stabbed another student over a girl killing him, can anyone give a year to confirm this? By the way I live in the Woodrow Wilson Highschool district.BobafettH23 02:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Bridgewater
I added the Bridgewater incident to foiled plots. As a resident of the Bridgewater area, I figured something that made as much news as this should be refered to. Crusader4762 01:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Thurston High School Shooting not notable?
Is the Thurston High School Shooting not considered notable, even though its perpetrator was Kip Kinkel? Titanium Dragon 07:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
At least 7 out of 12 school shooters are on PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS.
See it on TV news if you don't believe it: http://www.strijewski.com/school-shootout/
Are you suggesting that be added to the article? WizardofOskemen 21:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)WizardofOskemen
Foiled plot
My friend called a bomb threat and brought a gun to his middle school, and he was expelled from school. Should this be added to the list of foiled plots? It was on the local news channel. WereWolf 21:51, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Massacre means mass killing
Why does the opening of the article say only one death can be a massacre?
- One death by homicide is a murder. The definition of massacre means mass murder or the killing of a group of individuals at one time in one place either by an individual or another group.T.E. Goodwin 06:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Columbine
There are three pictures dealing with Columbine - shouldn't other photos be included? --MosheA 17:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Cleanup
All unreferenced cases will be deleted, per wikipedia:Verifiability. `'mikkanarxi 19:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Bob Bechtel; Robert Bechtel; Swarthmore
< http://swarthmore.edu/news/inthenews/05/05.02.24.htm >:
- Associated Press
- HEADLINE
- House approves bill against school bullying
- February 21, 2005, Monday, BC cycle
- SECTION
- State and Regional
- LENGTH
- 203 words
- DATELINE
- PHOENIX
- BODY
- The state House voted overwhelmingly Monday to require school districts to prohibit students from harassing, intimidating and bullying other pupils. The House's 56-3 vote sent the bill (HB2368) to the Senate. Under the bill, districts would have to adopt practices that would apply to students while on school property and buses and at school-sponsored activities.
- …
- The House K-12 Education Committee endorsed the Arizona bill on Jan. 19 after hearing an endorsement of it from a University of Arizona professor who previously disclosed that he fatally shot a classmate in response to bullying in 1955 at Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania. "This is a universal problem," Professor Robert P. Bechtel told the committee. "Unless there is some intervention, it will go on." …
- The Chronicle of Higher Education
HEADLINE: Alum's Plan to Attend Reunion Summons Dark Memories at Swarthmore
- February 25, 2005, Friday
- SECTION
- MONEY & MANAGEMENT; Pg. 25
- LENGTH
- 250 words
- BYLINE
- PAUL FAIN
- BODY
- The most notorious member of the Swarthmore College Class of 1955 says he plans to attend its 50th reunion this June. On a January night in 1955, Robert B. Bechtel, a member of the Swarthmore class that also includes former Democratic presidential candidate Michael Dukakis, shot and killed Holmes Strozier, a sophomore.
- A professor of environmental psychology at the University of Arizona, he has said he was a victim of bullying in college. Mr. Bechtel recently testified to Arizona legislators about his violent past in order to support antibullying initiatives in Arizona schools.
- Swarthmore has objected to Mr. Bechtel's "misleading portrayal of the events of 1955," saying in a statement that he "was not subjected to physical violence or intimidation" while in college, and that Mr. Bechtel's subsequently diagnosed mental illness was among the factors that had influenced his actions. …
- SUNDAY NEWS
(LANCASTER, PA.)
- HEADLINE
I, hereby, recommend that this article would be commenced.
Thank You.
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Russian School Shooting/Terrorism
Oughtn't the events that occurred in Russia in, I think it was, 2003 be included in this list? Kids died in droves. It was, yes, a terrorist act, but still. I am willing to add it, but I figured I should get some feedback first. Wilybadger 05:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- The Beslan school hostage crisis is there, in the 'infamous' list. Carcharoth 03:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Tidying up and updates
Please see these edits for the latest series of updates. I've added a few new entries, removed duplicate entries, and tidied up a bit. Carcharoth 03:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Category reorganisation nomination
Please see this nomination and suggest ideas for how you would like the category system to handle these sort of articles. Carcharoth 03:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)