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Looks like advertising for his upcoming book. I cannot verify that the book has been published. Without that, I believe the artcile fails WP:BIO -Nv8200p talk 04:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - vanispamcruftisement. "Looks like advertising" - it is advertising. Look at the history, the majority was written by Rajsingam (talk · contribs). MER-C 05:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - sources in external links section assert notability. "I cannot verify" != "I am too lazy to look". After Raj was made aware of WP:AUTO he asked myself and RaveenS (talk · contribs) to write it for him.Bakaman 05:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. Bakaman 05:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - Biography of a notable person deserves to be met with a "This article needs expansion" tag not and AfD. Freedom skies| talk 06:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete selfaggrandizement written by subject of article. Boo. Chris 06:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - Looks like Rajsingam violating the WP:NOT#SOAPBOX for find the market for his book. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ 07:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- No Comment - It is because of the request of the German students who are volunteering in Asia only I posted my bio Rajkumar Kanagasingam to the wikipedia originally but wrongly, but it was actually created by Wackymacs and subsequently shaped by others User:Pearle, User:Bluebot, User:RaveenS, User:ProveIt and User:Bakasuprman. After they all have given notability only, I added photos and few more details. Rajsingam 07:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- I kindly request here Jimmy Wales and the Administrators to verify the good faith of the User:Nv8200p for placing AfD tag than "This article needs expansion" just two days after my controversial discussion for my community in the discussion page of Anton Balasingham. Rajsingam 08:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
References (off-line media archives) Rajsingam 16:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think you should climb the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man while you are at it. Tarinth 18:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Tarinth, I think you should open your eyes and take a look at all those printed reliable sources Rajsingam has provided (plenty of newspaper scans!). — Wackymacs 19:00, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- My comment was purely in response to the absurd call for Jimmy Wales to give attention to this matter.Tarinth 19:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Comment- User:Wackymacs has actually copied whole-sale from your profileand there is not much that he has done on his own. If you are saying that you have added some pictures and done a FEW more edits, how come the maximum number of edits (69 edits)are done from your account excluding your IP edits. If you count the number of IP edits as well it will surely exceed 85.. If you don't mind could you explain what you mean by I posted my bio Rajkumar Kanagasingam to the wikipedia originally but wrongly, but it was actually created by Wackymacs. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ 08:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability not established. The links provided are ezines or press-release sits where anybody can submit a "press release" (such as openpr.com, 1888pressrelease etc.) utcursch | talk 08:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: Expansion, not delete. If no significant expansion after some time then put AfD again.Rumpelstiltskin223 11:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. This should be expanded, not deleted. The person is notable. Passes WP:BIO. Verifiable and reliable sources are given in the article. — Wackymacs 11:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Week keep: the subject of the article barely seems to meet the requirements regarding notability as a columnist and author. There also seems to be a problem finding reliable source, however one must bear in mind that many developing countries (like Sri Lanka) are technologically under-developed and that a web-search cannot be considered a exhaustive method for establishing notability in such cases. Furthermore English is not the primary language in this country (compare with Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dominic Jeeva). I'm really on the fence here, because it is a conflict of interest if the subject of the article is doing most of the editing. --Oden 12:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep- expand.--D-Boy 19:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. The references cited above by Rajsingam clearly meet the primary criterion of WP:N; multiple and non-trivial published reports. The article should stay despite WP:AUTO concerns. Ccscott 22:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. One can point to COI here, and while it's bad for to edit your own article, I think that Raj has made it a point - he is entirely notable. Now if it hasn't been done so, can somebody please make sure those links that Raj provided are in the article? --Dennisthe2 01:28, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete NN, agree with MER-C it looks like advertising. Davidpdx 11:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep- expand with available published off-line press reports. DoDoBirds 12:14, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - Well known and notable person. Just because a famous personality contributes a photo or few minor details to an article about himself, it does not become Soapbox or Vanity. By the way, is it a rule that the moment one becomes a wikipedia editor his article should be deleted. Doctor Bruno 19:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete So User:Rajsingam created his own article here..And after realising there is WP:BIO he kindly asked his friends to write this for him !!! So his friends did the rest, I would say, for him !! is anyone missing the comical part here ?? See this Diff to realise, how hard he tries to use wikipedia to boast about himself!. This person is absolutely not notable in Sri Lanka . He is definitely unheard in the academic field..I am still unable to verify his book.. I am yet to meet any one who has even heard of this book !! I am yet to see the importance of this and this other than editor wants to say He has more German friends !!! The whole article doesn't make any sense, and its not even worth having a debate on this--Iwazaki 19:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- My comment This editorUser:Iwazaki is trying hard to defame me; it is because of my controversial argument with the editor over the funeral of Anton Balasingham in the discussion page Talk:Anton Balasingham and the massacres of my community and their persecution in the same page. My article was created by User:Wackymacs, I didn't know anything about Misplaced Pages at that time, though I referred for my book a lot from wikipedia. I posted my initial information only blanking many pages. After the Google search only, I found my name on wikipedia. After that only I started to edit. But when you compare my other contributions, you will come to know the amount, I have spent for my Bio is not so much. There were many things, I might have added from the off-line media archives about my activities, but I didn't attempt. The editor is criticizing me, she/he hasn't heard of me in the academic world, but two of my public lectures were presided by Dr. Gamani Corea, a former Secretary-General of UNCTAD, so what the editor is going to tell for that. I have placed those events in the newspaper archives in Talk:Rajkumar Kanagasingam. Why the editor is hell-bent to defame me could be well judged by the language the editor used to criticize a highly respected Bishop as boot-licker on Talk:Anton Balasingham. Rajsingam 01:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- REPLY The above reply itself,qualify,perfectly for the deletion of the article.The user Rajasingham has shown that he is not afraid to accuse anyone given the opportunity.He is here, engage in baseless accusation for me without even trying to address the issues I've raised here.I've no desire to defame him,, but that doesn't mean I'm going to endorse what ever he says here. For what I have read from other users, It became evident that this user had violated WP:BIO miserably.And when he realised this, he had asked his friends "to do edits for him",and I found this "comical"(read user Bakamans comments).BUT, I want this article to be deleted not only for this,for me violation of rules is not the main issue here.I care more about the "importance of this person " and "Does he deserve to have an article of him in wikipedia" ?? Sadly, I don't see a single notability in this person which justify having his article here.He claims to have done public lectures ??!! IS this notable ?? Millions of people doing public lectures all over the world ,and do wikipedia need articles for every public lecturer ?? He has hilariously put some pictures of him giving a lecture (??) to some German students at a beer table, is this notable ?? I went though the articles he wrote in the Daily News, other than cow-towing the ex PM Ranil Wikramasinghe, he has done nothing special at all !! And please remember this person , is not even a journalist, he just had a couple random articles,which is possible for anyone !!
This user is just an NGO worker,working in Sri Lanka..His name is unheard in the academic fields, His name is unheard among the local writers , His name is unheard in the field of politics, His book is virtually non existence in Sri Lanka, and I am still trying to verify it !! I have nothing personal against him, BUT I really don't see why we should even have his BIO ,in here,in the first place.And for the off-topic comment, I am still waiting his reply at the relevant talk page..Care to answer over their ?? --Iwazaki 09:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete The only major contributors to this article are Wikimacs who creted the article which in itself was a direct copyvio from here , and the actual subject of the article Rajkumar Kanagasingam editing under the username Rajsingam and annonymously (note that all the IPs that have edited this page are dynamic IPs of Sri Lanka Telecom). A few newspaper articles do not constitute notability and as per WP:BIO to constitute notability
The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person.
- This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries except for the following:
- Media reprints of the person's autobiography or self-promotional works.
- Works carrying merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that just mention the person in passing, telephone directory listings, or simple records of births and deaths.
- No proof has been given to constitute this. Thus the article is an attempt of self-promotion, and promotion of his book.
- Also note the reason we have AFDs and not VFDs is is clearly justified here. By listing this as a "India related deletion" a clear attempt has been made to canvas votes for keep. --snowolfD4 23:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- The scanned newspaper articles on Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for deletion/Rajkumar Kanagasingam have been offered as proof the subject meets WP:BIO. There are multiple, independent and non-trivial newspaper articles on the subject. Notability is not subjective. Ccscott 01:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- My comment If those explanations are coming from some other editors, I might have given thought for, but this editorUser:Snowolfd4, initially showed some resistance when I was trying to edit my native and birth place Jaffna which was just dumped with false historical information from medieval times, showing Jaffna rulers were Sinhalese and the details of the early tribes Nagas were completely left out, until I did a complete historical updates with reference. Why I also feel my Bio work is entitled for Indian deletion category is I have done my best for the Gujarat earth quake victims at a time they needed attention for their relief, by giving a lecture program Rebuilding the Indian Economy beyond natural disaster, mostly a fund raising campaign than merely a lecture, with the help of Exnora International, India and The Hindu newspaper(I have submitted reference on Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for deletion/Rajkumar Kanagasingam). The right tag for my Bio, I feel, should be placed "This article needs expansion" and not the AFDs or VFDs. Rajsingam 02:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Expand if possible'If there is appropriate content to expand it with, then it should be expanded. I ask the editor/subject why it hasnt been done already--what other notable columns have been written?DGG 07:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)