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Hi, ^_^ , first of all I am not angry at all, I am just frustrated at some policies. I was working on articles about Aum Shinrikyo members. They have all pages in the Japanese Misplaced Pages and most in the Chinese as well. My question is, why don't even the ones who were executed in 2018 qualify for an article but American articles about the Manson family, most of whom did not even commit a crime have their place? I see double standards or it's really me that is wrong?. Well, thank you and hope you have an awesome day. --CoryGlee (talk) 17:49, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Did the articles ever exist and then get deleted? I am guessing the reason the articles are not here is because no one wrote them. Sources in Japanese are OK if you can understand them enough to write an English article. You are seeing WP:systematic bias. I have moved your article to Kazuaki Okazaki. But I did cut out some copied text. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:28, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Graeme Bartlett, thank you for the review of the article. I was mostly enthusiast because I was reading a book about the Aum group. Yes, I may have overreacted about systemic bias. I had the example of Tomomasa Nakagawa, on which I extensively worked and it was redirected almost instantly while Manson family insignificant members like Tex Watson have a page. Again, I may be wrong, it was just my opinion. I will be submitting drafts instead of articles for review about further Aum members. Thank you again and sorry If I sounded rude, that's the last thing I meant to be. --CoryGlee (talk) 14:42, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Do those individual members satisfy our notability standards, say as per WP:CRIME? I well remember those attacks by Aum Shinrikyo but individual members received very little coverage in English. I can't speak for in Japan. As for the Mansion family, they have been a very central part of American history because their story has gotten entangled with that of pop culture. It's hard to overstate how much media coverage they have gotten. It's not a crime itself that makes people notable, it's the coverage of their crime. Jason Quinn (talk) 15:08, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Draft pages turning up in a Google search

Question: I recently speedy deleted several drafts per G3 as hoaxes. In doing a BEFORE search at Google I was surprised to find that the drafts turned up in a Google search. I thought drafts were not supposed to be indexed? -- MelanieN (talk) 20:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@MelanieN: Misplaced Pages:Controlling_search_engine_indexing agrees with you. User, User talk, Draft, and Draft Talk are supposed to be not indexed. Not sure if something has changed in that regard. Maybe ask at WP:VPT RudolfRed (talk) 20:50, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Will move my question there. -- MelanieN (talk) 20:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Maybe this has something to do with articles being automatically indexed after a while? I didn't think drafts would be affected too though. Adam9007 (talk) 20:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Daily habits

I'm looking at some research that suggests part of what makes people edit frequently is working editing into a daily habit. I know I have one: I pick up my laptop every morning and click the button that opens a bunch of tabs, especially Special:Notifications and the history for WT:MED. I've done this for years.

But I don't know how it works for others. I think some folks are mostly after-work-hours editors. Do you have a daily habit that works for you, or that you would recommend to others? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

I edit Misplaced Pages at odd moments that I get during the day here in England. This usually includes a short time in the morning and evening and, if I don't have any day-long commitments such as child care, at other times during the day. I usually look at my watchlist (which is far too long because I'm not disciplined enough to delete things from it) and at articles that are undergoing any of our deletion processes. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:33, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

I used to have my watchlist on my "morning" button, but I gave up on it a few years ago. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:05, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Polish

Hello! I hope you cn help me with the translation of following Polish words:

«Szkolenia Wojska Polskiego»

«Główny Zarząd Polityczny Wojska Polskiego»

«Gospodarki terenowej»

«Wojsk Obrony Powietrznej Kraju»

Thank you in advance! Best wishes! --Mbakkel2 (talk) 07:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Consider asking at WT:POLAND. These are military terms. EdJohnston (talk) 17:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Google Translate usually does a pretty good job of translation between Polish and English, and, unless any of those terms have an "official" name in English that is different, it seems to me (my Polish is pretty fluent) that it translates those phrases correctly, except you should note that three of your examples are in the genitive case, with the last being plural. The nominative singular would be:

«Szkolenie Wojska Polskiego»

«Główny Zarząd Polityczny Wojska Polskiego»

«Gospodarka terenowa»

«Wojsko Obrony Powietrznej Kraju»

Phil Bridger (talk) 18:38, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@Mbakkel2:

• The term "Wojsko Polskie" is a common name for Polish military forces of all kinds (see the lead in Polish Armed Forces). "Szkolenie" = training. The first term lacks a word, it was probably something like "Ośrodek Szkolenia Wojska Polskiego" (Polish Army Training Center), "Główny Inspektor Szkolenia Wojska Polskiego" (General inspector/supervisor of training) etc.
• Google translates "Główny Zarząd Polityczny Wojska Polskiego" as 'Main Political Board of the Polish Army'. That seems quite reasonable (as far as I can tell – I'm not very fluent in English), but you may try to see the translation of the pl-wiki article pl:Główny Zarząd Polityczny Wojska Polskiego for a little more information.
• "Gospodarka" = economics. "Gospodarka terenowa" = terrain economics (be aware of my not-so-good English), a part of economics is the responsibility of local governments as opposed to centralized administration.
• "pl:Wojska Obrony Powietrznej Kraju" = anti-air forces, one of four kinds of Polish armed forces in 1962-1990 to defend the country from airplane and rocket attacks (the other three were "wojska lądowe" land forces, "wojska lotnicze" air forces and "marynarka wojenna" navy).

HTH. --CiaPan (talk) 07:02, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you very much to both of you. Best wishes --Mbakkel2 (talk) 08:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Why is Misplaced Pages so cool?

Just asking cause I think it's cool — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Sheldonator (talk • contribs) 18:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

A passing admin might want to look at the OP's user page and decide whether it's block-worthy or just a bit of childish silliness. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:54, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Well I don't think it reaches the level of childish silliness. But I blocked them. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 00:48, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Volunteers must declare that they are paid?

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Fashion campaign banner

I've put a request for a three-day fashion campaign banner at meta:CentralNotice/Request/Wiki Loves Fashion 2020.--Pharos (talk) 20:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Guardian article will probably increase commercially motivated editing

Link. Tony (talk) 05:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

The researchers claim to have translated some presumably accurate and balanced articles from other wikipedias. Although commercially motivated, this seems to be a win for enwiki, for the town and for the newspaper which has an experiment to write up. Of course, many other forms of paid editing remain unwelcome. Certes (talk) 08:27, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Per the article, they didn't edit en-WP. Unless they edited Collegio Carlo Alberto. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:58, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Nice that Alex Hern took time to report it and publish it in a WP:RS. Most of the article was useful, but he could have gone back to Daria for a comment rather than linking back to his previous article in the final two paragraphs. I see that there are three implications for us. Firstly we need to be a bit more diligent in watching for WP:COI. Secondly we should write a little tutorial on how to avoid Commercial and CoI in writing location articles. Then explain how they can constructively add to an article.Explaining copyediting and the use of the Talk page. Thirdly, and most excitingly we can engage with the authority and just ask them to release images in their own archives under a CC-SA-BY license (notice that NC must be missing) and put a CC-0 on text pages in their online and print publications. Something similar to Open Government Licence v3.0. --ClemRutter (talk) 09:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Could someone take a look at Collegio Carlo Alberto it is still a stub, needs infobox, references, and photographs. ClemRutter (talk) 09:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

User script testing: section-watchlist

I wrote a user script to watchlist sections. It's still pretty unreliable, but you can try it out at User:Enterprisey/section-watchlist. It's not ready for general use (I'll post, perhaps, on WP:VPT when that's the case) but I'm ready to see what everyone else thinks of it - what could be improved, bugs you come across, etc. Enterprisey (talk!) 09:16, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

It would be helpful, for the same reason that it would be useful to have this facility, if you could name a dedicated page that we can watch for progress rather than WP:VPT. I'm rather disinclined to put that page on my watchlist because much of what is posted there is gobbledygook to me. Anyway, that's only a minor point: the most important thing is to thank you for working on this. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Phil Bridger, true; I'll also post on User talk:Enterprisey/section-watchlist with updates, which I should've mentioned in the original post. And you're welcome! Enterprisey (talk!) 18:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Notification on global ban proposal for a LTA

This is a notification of global ban discussion against Sidowpknbkhihj, pursuant to the global ban policy.

My regards. SMB99thx my edits 09:40, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

• Copied from WP:AN and modified. SMB99thx my edits 12:57, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Major AFC fail re: Korean literature

I invite people to look at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Articles for creation#Major AFC fail re: Korean literature. Just wanting to make sure the community is aware of some problems at AFC and thinking about how they can be solved. Thanks, Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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