Talk:Ecosystem model - Misplaced Pages

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Ecosystem model article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This

level-5 vital article is rated Start-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Molecular Biology: COMPBIO

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Molecular Biology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Molecular Biology on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Molecular BiologyWikipedia:WikiProject Molecular BiologyTemplate:WikiProject Molecular BiologyMolecular Biology
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Computational Biology task force (assessed as Mid-importance).

Ecology High‑importance

	Ecology portal This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Ecology, an effort to create, expand, organize, and improve ecology-related articles.EcologyWikipedia:WikiProject EcologyTemplate:WikiProject EcologyEcology
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.

Systems High‑importance

	Systems science portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Systems, which collaborates on articles related to systems and systems science.SystemsWikipedia:WikiProject SystemsTemplate:WikiProject SystemsSystems
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is not associated with a particular field. Fields are listed on the template page.

Limnology and Oceanography Mid‑importance

	Oceans portal This article is part of the WikiProject Limnology and Oceanography to improve Misplaced Pages's coverage of the inland waters and marine environments. The aim is to write neutral and well-referenced articles on limnology- or oceanography-related topics, as well as to ensure that limnology and oceanography articles are properly categorized. Read Misplaced Pages:Contributing FAQ and leave any messages at the project talk page.Limnology and OceanographyWikipedia:WikiProject Limnology and OceanographyTemplate:WikiProject Limnology and OceanographyLimnology and Oceanography
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Good article

Hi, in my opinion this article has potential to grow to a good article status. I have to complement Plumbago on his achievement here. Although I'm not an expert in this particular field, I think this article could benefit from some more examples, historie, theoretical background and some pictures would be nice. Maybe also a link to Systems ecology. As I said I'm not an expert here so pleace correct me if I'm wrong. - Mdd 22:02, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The scope of this article

I was quite impressed half a year ago by this article and it's clear language and I still am. I wonder though if the scope of this article is correct. What I mean is if the title and the content of this article are corresponding. The first sentence is quit clear:

Ecosystem models, or ecological models, are mathematical representations of ecosystems.

I wonder, an this is why I started this argument in the first place is, if this is completely true. For example I searched in google books for: What is "Ecosystem model" and found:

Sharon L. Hanks, Sharon La Bonde, Ecology and the Biosphere: Principles and Problems pag 52, see here.

The introduce here "a simplified ecosystem model using odum's energy language". It seems to me this is a grafical and not a mathematical representations of an ecosystem. based on this, the first sentence can be changed into:

Ecosystem models, or ecological models, are conceptual, graphical and or mathematical representations of ecosystems.

And in the line of this change of scoop, this article can clear some more about conceptual and graphical Ecosystem representations? -- Mdd (talk) 14:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree with this addition, though we should be clear that modern ecosystem models are typically different in form (if not intention) than historical models. Historically, building up a diagrammatic food web that linked components could be described as an ecosystem model, but these days most people mean a quantitative description of the components of an ecosystem and the relationships between them. Going further, ecosystem models presently in the scientific literature are typically systems of difference equations or ordinary differential equations that represent major ecosystem components (e.g. plants, animals, dead material), and that have mathematical functional response relationships linking them (e.g. primary production, grazing, mortality).

Going back to your previous message about this page (which, unfortunately, I missed at the time — sorry), I'm keen to expand it in the ways you suggest. I've been meaning to add images to show things like simulation output from a Lotka-Volterra model, food web diagrams, etc. I've been rather busy in the past 6 months or so, and haven't gotten around to this. But I'd be happy for anyone else to advance it too.

Anyway, thanks for your interest. Cheers, --Plumbago (talk) 15:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I am running the WikiProject Systems and from that perspective I want to contribute to the improvement of all systems theory related content in Misplaced Pages. If you interested I like to work with you in the further improvement of this article. More on the general, coneptual and grafical part. I think there are multiple things we can do:

Improve the content of this article, as we started talking about
Add some picture: I did digging and restrucuring in Wikicommons in the Commons:Category:Ecosystems and in commons:Category:Ecological diagrams
Add some more examples
Add some more links from and towards this article
And a short version of this article can be added to the ecosystem article

I think we can create a larger audience for this article. Last month this article was viewed 1300 times and the ecosystem article 67726 times. Some more of the people who looked at that article should come and take a look here. These are just some of my ideas. -- Mdd (talk) 01:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

why was this removed?

Ecopath is a free ecosystem modelling software suite, initially developed by NOAA, and widely used in fisheries management as a tool for modelling and visualising the complex relationships that exist in real world marine ecosystems.

99.181.159.67 (talk) 01:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced and not particularly relevant to the subject. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I have reinstated information on Ecopath, which certainly has a place in this article as the most prominent and widely used ecosystem modelling system. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:27, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

That's a much better location; even if the most prominent, it shouldn't be in the lead. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:15, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

External links modified (January 2018)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Ecosystem model. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110903103326/http://www.africaninvertebrates.org.za/Buschke_Seaman_2011_52_1_503.aspx to http://www.africaninvertebrates.org.za/Buschke_Seaman_2011_52_1_503.aspx

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:37, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

"Generation of hypotheses about possible ecological relations that are not yet known or well understood" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Generation of hypotheses about possible ecological relations that are not yet known or well understood has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 14 § Generation of hypotheses about possible ecological relations that are not yet known or well understood until a consensus is reached. Fram (talk) 15:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Categories: