Talk:Generalissimo of the Soviet Union

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So...

So the difference between a Field Marshal and Generalissimo is... what exactly? Generalissimo can automatically override a Field Marshal if one does not agree with the other on a certain scenario? (I ask because I don't know if a nation could have more than one Field Marshal and so possibly a higher rank is needed to coordinate them).

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 16:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Field Marshal is inferior to Marshal, Marshal is inferior to Marshal of Soviet Union, Marshal of Soviet Union is inferior to Generalissimus.--Dojarca (talk) 09:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Grand Marshall is also in there above Marshall and similar to an "of" rank, I mean generally (no pun intended) I don't mean specifically a rank anywhere ever extant in the Soviet Union, but as ranks go... Also to note is the strange fact in the United States that the General of the Army is a rank below the General of the Armies, as if there became more than one U.S. Army just for a new rank's benefit. "Generalissimus" is always the highest rank, similar to the 'commander in chief' but without the civil power. "-issimus" means 'highest' in German "Oberste" meant highest too. Hitler I believe had a term coined to him which I cannot find googling for the life of me that included "Armee" and "Oberste" putting him in a high rank which isn't yet here on Misplaced Pages's list of WWII German ranks. 4.242.174.112 (talk) 12:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Mixing usage

The article mixes "generalissimus" and "generalissimo". Are those two terms interchangeable? Should one replace the other? -Mys_721tx (talk) 19:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

-us is the Latin ending, -o is the Italian (and perhaps Spanish) one. Other languages use one or the other form of loan words of Latin origin. My mother tongue prefers the original -us (and other) endings (so we say 'kommunizmus' or 'kórus'), English prefers omitting it. Sometimes the meaning of a loan word differs with or without this nominative ending like in the case of English state and status. peyerk (talk) 09:45, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Did Stalin refuse?

I think thе claim "Stalin refused to officially approve the rank and died with the rank of Marshal of the Soviet Union" is unfounded. Anecdotes are known about previous proposals and their fate but the 1945 decision on creating the rank of generalissimus and granting it to Stalin was final and effective. It did not require Stalin's further approval once it had been made but of course making it required his approval in advance. Other anecdotes are known about that Stalin did not like the planned uniform and insignia but it has nothing to do with him having the rank. I cannot see any source that firmly founds this claim. I only see several possible reasons of depicting Stalin as a humble servant of the people.

peyerk (talk) 09:40, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Without any further clarification I remove this statement from the article. peyerk (talk) 12:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

contradiction

There is strong contradiction between this article and russian one. Russian says that the rank wasn't rejected. 192.114.1.67 (talk) 13:13, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 12 August 2024

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The result of the move request was: Moved per WP:COMMONNAME. (non-admin closure) Quadrantal (talk) 05:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Generalissimus of the Soviet Union → Generalissimo of the Soviet Union – Per WP:ENGLISH and WP:COMMONNAME. Google Search returns 11,500 results for "Generalissimo of the Soviet Union" vs. 91 for "Generalissimus of the Soviet Union". Google Books returns 1,320 vs. 311 for the same searches, and Google Scholar returns 47 vs. 10. — Goszei (talk) 23:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Support per nom. Clear common name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Support: It makes sense to change the name. Waqar💬 20:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Support per nom, common name. RodRabelo7 (talk) 18:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

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