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Donetsk separatists

Should be included as combatants. It’s in the area that they controlled prior to the invasion. Angele201002 (talk) 18:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

I added them. Elijahandskip (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

There are no proofs of an offensive; the claims seems to be a joke a best; you should be more neutral and professional...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E34:ECAC:93E0:4D3B:CB:21C8:2407 (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Interfax-Ukraine would disagree with you there. Elijahandskip (talk) 21:10, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Interfax is an ukrainian source, so....you should stop your propaganda; there was no offensive, Horlivka is under full russian controls, and your pathetic attempt to keep this fake information from being edited show you are nothing more than an POS, but when your friends will be destroyed; your claims will still be false and exposed. You friends lied so much that russian, who are not know to stated fact, look like a full credible source...what a shame... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E34:ECAC:93E0:6435:BDFA:9BFE:C99A (talk) 14:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Reports have claimed...?

"Reports have claimed that a part of the city has been captured." What reports? From whom? This is a claim, made by one of the sides in the conflict. This should should be made clear, otherwise it makes it seem like an objective viewpoint, which it certainly is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianbrettcooper (talk • contribs) 21:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

There are no horlivka offensive; it a ukrainian lie to hide their defeat in Kherson, in northern luhansk and around mariupol; time to delete this propaganda article.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E34:ECAC:93E0:6435:BDFA:9BFE:C99A (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Title

This title isn't the greatest, in my opinion. I think either Donetsk offensive or Battle of Horlivka (2022) is better, with leaning toward Battle of Horlivka, since we can't predict whether this offensive will continue or not. Any opinions? Curbon7 (talk) 01:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I also prefer the second option (battle of Horlivka), since there is not even enough information about the battle at the moment. Ridanbp (talk) 01:32, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't disagree that Battle of Horlivka (2022) is a better name for this, unfortunately, I think it would be WP:OR since the Ukrainian advisor said "going on the offensive". Here is what I am thinking. We rename the article to the Battle of Horlivka (2022) until a new battle begins. Then, unless that second battle is notable, we combine it with this article to some (name) offensive, which can be determined later. Anyone agree with that? Elijahandskip (talk) 01:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I guess let's just leave it for a couple days and see what happens. Curbon7 (talk) 02:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

That is an option or I could just bold rename it to battle and if or when a second battle occurs, start a rename discussion for the offensive name. Elijahandskip (talk) 02:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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48° 18′ 0″ N, 38° 3′ 0″ E 24.179.198.180 (talk) 19:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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At the end of the first paragraph: "Donetsk People's Republic, a pro-Russian separatist quasi-state recognized only by Russia." There is no need to add that kind of biased qualification. Ridanbp (talk) 23:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. This is the way sources often qualify it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Eliminazione della pagina o vittoria russa

Pare che questa offensiva in realtà non ci sia mai stata, ma che sia solo propaganda. In ogni caso, la città è pienamente sotto il controllo dei russi. Quindi, a mio parere, o si elimina la pagina in quanto probabilmente non veritiera, o la si definisce come vittoria russa in quanto la città è sempre stata sotto il loro controllo 151.26.22.111 (talk) 21:52, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Elimniate the page

This page is only propaganda. The Horlivka offensive doesn't exist really, that page should be eliminated 151.26.22.111 (talk) 22:09, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlphaGroupOutHere (talk • contribs) 16:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Substantiating the claim?

It's been over a week since the claimed offensive, yet beyond the initial claims it's rather evident absolutely nothing has developed here.

Can we address the possibility this "offensive" is yet another case of "Russian warships go fuck yourself"?

Agree with this. Does anyone have any RS for updated battle reports here? Because as far as I can tell the Ukrainians claimed to be on the offensive and then didn't even attempt to advance. Arakui (talk) 01:31, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Please delete this page, there is no on-the-ground information about the occurence of such an offensive. BasilLeaf (talk) 08:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

There has been no more updates on this purported offensive; it's very likely that this is propaganda, this has to be deleted. 76.18.49.205 (talk) 19:07, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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