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Proposed merge

See Talk:Yellow card#Proposed Merge With Red card

Move to 'Misconduct (football (soccer))' like all association football articles. Skinnyweed 16:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

That's simply not true, see Football_(soccer)#See_also. – Smyth\ 16:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
When a parenthetical disambig is used, the format TOPIC (football) is usually used; when it is inline then the soccer may be used, e.g. Football (soccer) TOPIC. This seems to work well; no need to make it more complex especially when disambiguation is not really required. --Daveb 09:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Team gets 5 yellow cards in one game

Don't some competitions fine teams that incur more than four yellow cards in one game? Xiner (talk, email) 04:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

This is an issue for each league's by-laws, as are all post-game sanctions. --124.189.6.85 06:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Cards

Why does it stands cautioned in the text when a player gets an yellow card? In every football computergame, the commentants says that this player gets an yellow card. Now he's booked insted of the player is cautioned? Doesn't it named "booking" or "booked" when a player gets an yellow card?

Caution is the correct term as used in the Laws of the Game. "Booking" is a slang term only. --124.189.6.85 06:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
As is Dismissal (from the field of play) for the slang "Sending off". So why did you change it back to the slang in the article? Don't say 'popular usage', because otherwise the article could have "Booking" and not caution as popular usage.

What part of the Laws of the Game state a player is sent off for interfering with an opponent? I am a referee and we have no provision under the Laws stating this. Is this offence included erroneously, or does it indeed exist in some jurisdictions (one would hope not, the LOTG purportedly being global)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.80.149 (talk) 02:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Sent off

Sent off gets redirected here.. the title of the article says football, but it's only about soccer. Sending off is also used in the rugby codes, linking to here is meaningless for those uses. Fixed.

Stat-based snippet alluding to bias, not discretion

I am wondering why there is a one-line entry at the end of the Discretion section which seems to push a statistical viewpoint; furthermore, it is nothing to do with discretion - it refers wholly to a referees' bias. Discretion is illustrated through making a decision one way or the other in a split second during a match. Bias indicates that the referee will always make a decision in one certain direction, due to pre-conceived beliefs before the match has even started (e.g., perhaps, "it's safer for me to give most decisions to the home team, and I will be more popular with the majority of the assembled people if I do so". That's not discretion!).

I'm inclined to remove this one-liner, as not representing a balanced view, and being irrelevant to the subject of Discretion. Other thoughts?

86.112.175.119 (talk) 13:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


I'd say it was an aspect of discretion, as favouring the home side isn't in the laws of the game, and it's been statiscally shown that referees favour the home side, the referee is exercising what could be termed prudence, or even said to be discreet, hence the referee's favouring of the home side is due to discretion.

--94.192.227.195 (talk) 02:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Or it could conceivably be that the visiting team is more likely to commit cautionable offenses than the home team. It depends a lot on what exactly this statistical study was. Did the investigator look at video tape, for example, to determine that referees did not give the home team yellow cards when the incident might well have required one? Or did he merely look at the number of yellow cards issues to the home team vs the visitors? 69.29.207.109 (talk) 14:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

2010 World Cup yellow card rules are vague

The current phrasing is:

>>> the rules were changed so that any player who received two yellow cards between the beginning of the tournament and after the quarterfinal round (instead of the end of the group stage matches) would serve a one-match suspension for the next game. <<<

It's extremely vague what the new World Cup rules are: "any player who received ... yellow cards between the beginning of the tournament and after the quarterfinal rounds" What does that mean? How do you receive yellow cards BETWEEN point A (the beginning of the tournament) and AFTER point B (quarterfinals)? Does that mean receiving a yellow card at any point after the quarterfinals counts as being between? I'd fix this but I'm curious about this myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merdinus (talkcontribs) 19:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

changed "after" to "the end of", which should be sufficiently clear (and also matches the wording of the next phrase). Huenthar (talk) 19:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Shirt removal

Does anyone know WHY taking one's shirt off is unsporting behaviour? I have heard several different answers from people: a) it (at least theoretically) is time-wasting, particularly if the shirt is thrown into the crowd; b) it could be offensive to some people (although even players who are wearing vests underneath are cautioned); c) it is unfair on the sponsors, whose advertising is removed at the point when the player has most exposure. If a reliable source could be found... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.96.22 (talk) 17:23, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

The latter. There are signs in some dressing rooms saying to remember our sponsors, and not to take off your shirt. 94.168.179.213 (talk) 16:08, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Only taking off the shirt isn`t unsporting behaviour and you don`t get a yellow card only for taking off your shirt. But it`s unsporting behaviour if you celebrate a goal too excessive. Taking off your shirt after a goal is classified as excessive celebration of a goal. --88.128.21.148 (talk) 12:14, 21 June 2012 (UTC)