Dieter Shirley moved to draftspace
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I was bored and
did you a solid; I cleaned up the references in the ERC article.
The cleanup should make readers less likely to get the impression that your references are deliberately, obfuscatorily padded. It also makes it easier for you to keep track of what’s already being cited and what’s still missing in terms of establishing notability. It would become even easier if you lost the content improperly duplicated over from the main article, which isn’t going to get to stay in any case.
I believe the article now has a decent chance of surviving if you go ahead and make it a little bit tighter and more focused. In particular, you should probably lose in-text attributions like Arcenegui et al points out
and so on. Firstly, in-text attributions of this sort are discouraged by WP:CS. Secondly, cargo-cult academia will only serve to make the article look insecure in an AfD discussion. Make the article show confidence by owning the fact that it’s ultimately just pretty basic computer programming; don’t make it larp as particle physics or something. GR Kraml (talk) 01:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Okay, understood. Done Codeconjurer777 (talk) 20:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I already know about this statement "For some retired or disbanded groups, or retired individuals whose notability rests in large part on their earlier visual appearance, a new picture may not serve the same purpose as an image taken during their career, in which case the use would be acceptable.", which I have read before. However, if it is a single person who is living, it may be replaceable, because Misplaced Pages’s policy on non-free content does not require images of a single person who is living, shown at WP:NFC#UUI, and is under unacceptable fair use. That is why I nominated the file for deletion. Thank you. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 22:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply. You haven't actually addressed the spirit of the exemption I am citing and applying here, only that you read it and are familiar with it. The exemption indicates a spirited use case for images of 'living persons' that serve an irreplaceable function and encyclopedic purpose; I have attempted to explain such an applicability of this exemption whereby the image chosen may be acceptable as fair use despite the general rules you cite of being unacceptable under fair use (hence the purpose of an exemption to rules). Codeconjurer777 (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- I only used that statement from your reason why you don’t think the image is replaceable. The subject is living and may be retired, in what you said. I know it's main purpose is for visual identification of the subject. There can be a free alternative image of the person if you performed a research that there is free images of the subject, a free one can still be created, or may still be covered by text alone adequately. For example, if you go to Special:Upload, and for licensing, if it is a living person, if you choose "Fair use image of a living person", the template Di-replaceable non-free use will show up and it will be up for deletion. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 22:49, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- you still haven't addressed why this specific image is not irreplaceable given it's specific historical significance in subject's career. That is my point, that it is not replaceable by a newer image based on its distinct significance to the subject's career and notability. Codeconjurer777 (talk) 22:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- I am confused by what you mean by career and notability. My point is that it is not irreplaceable because it illustrates a living subject, that’s what I meant when I put the tag on the image. Please see the reason why on the image and see my reasoning. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 23:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is highlighted in green. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 23:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- I am confused by what you mean by career and notability. My point is that it is not irreplaceable because it illustrates a living subject, that’s what I meant when I put the tag on the image. Please see the reason why on the image and see my reasoning. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 23:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- you still haven't addressed why this specific image is not irreplaceable given it's specific historical significance in subject's career. That is my point, that it is not replaceable by a newer image based on its distinct significance to the subject's career and notability. Codeconjurer777 (talk) 22:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- I only used that statement from your reason why you don’t think the image is replaceable. The subject is living and may be retired, in what you said. I know it's main purpose is for visual identification of the subject. There can be a free alternative image of the person if you performed a research that there is free images of the subject, a free one can still be created, or may still be covered by text alone adequately. For example, if you go to Special:Upload, and for licensing, if it is a living person, if you choose "Fair use image of a living person", the template Di-replaceable non-free use will show up and it will be up for deletion. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 22:49, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply. You haven't actually addressed the spirit of the exemption I am citing and applying here, only that you read it and are familiar with it. The exemption indicates a spirited use case for images of 'living persons' that serve an irreplaceable function and encyclopedic purpose; I have attempted to explain such an applicability of this exemption whereby the image chosen may be acceptable as fair use despite the general rules you cite of being unacceptable under fair use (hence the purpose of an exemption to rules). Codeconjurer777 (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. I already know about this statement "For some retired or disbanded groups, or retired individuals whose notability rests in large part on their earlier visual appearance, a new picture may not serve the same purpose as an image taken during their career, in which case the use would be acceptable.", which I have read before. However, if it is a single person who is living, it may be replaceable, because Misplaced Pages’s policy on non-free content does not require images of a single person who is living, shown at WP:NFC#UUI, and is under unacceptable fair use. That is why I nominated the file for deletion. Thank you. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 22:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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