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Sorry for messing up the move!

I didn't know how else to do it, sorry for messing it up. I haven't done it to any others, so no problem there at least. Skirtsy 21:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy decline on Yamang pisikal

Hi Eastlaw. I've declined your G1 tag on Yamang pisikal as non-English content is not included in the said criteria. -CTS talk 09:37, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I placed the tag because A) it was foreign language material (appears to be Malay) with no indications of what it is about, and contained a personal message at bottom. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 09:41, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but G1 is specifically for 'incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history'. If you were concerned about the lack of context then the appropriate tag would be A1. -CTS talk 09:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Is it that simple?

I saw you helped clean up the mess I made at the Monster Raving Loony Party politicians template. Is it that simple? Could I've just removed the speedy deletion template and got on with my life when I recognised the error? benjamil /_edits 07:48, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Probably. The regular deletion template will be handled by an admin, I think. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 07:51, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks. benjamil /_edits 08:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Roncevaux Pass (824)

I wanted to notify you that I have removed the "uncat" tag you added to this article despite that you added 2 categories using HotCat. I'm assuming you probably wanted the "improve categories" tag? If so, I feel the better priority is adding sources as the 2 categories are sufficient for now. Cheers! SwisterTwister talk 04:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I added that tag by mistake. Sorry about that. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 04:51, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Global Labor Arbitrage

Please stop vandalizing the Global Labor Arbitrage page. It is a very legitimate economic concept and phenomenon that deserves to have its own page, and the page that you have been redirecting it to does NOT even mention the concept by name and contains almost none of the content of this article. WhipperSnapper (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what you are talking about. I never vandalized that page, I only added some links and categories. If you continue to make false accusations I will have to get the admins involved. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 01:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	transcluding all of the gun laws by state will make it much easier to keep that information up to date! Gaijin42 (talk) 14:33, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Gaijin42. That was a very nice technical solution to the irksome issue of how to cross-maintain the summary tables from the "by state" article vs. the individual state articles. Thanks very much for figuring that out and putting it into place! — Mudwater 01:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I figured that it would be the best solution, rather than keeping two sets of tables. Now we just need to create tables for those states that don't have them. I will try to get to it when I have time, but I have been rather busy lately. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 02:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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I was reading an article about a lawyer and looked at that lawyer's law firm page on Misplaced Pages because it sounded interesting. I found it a nice quick read so did I search for law firms and found the NLJ 350 list. While clicking through some of the sites, I noticed that some of the law firms are flagged for whatever reason while other law firm with the same information are not.

For instance, why does one firm has its history section marked as "advertising" but another firm of similar lawyer count have minutia on its page and it doesn't have any flags at all?

I also noticed that some of the law firms have "news" added to the pages that appear to only have been added to make that law firm look bad or came from just one side of a story.

Misplaced Pages is supposed to be neutral, isn't it?

So, I used the Misplaced Pages NLJ 350 listing page and went law firm by law firm and deleted allegations and old news (really does any one care that in 2008 that the economy caused a firm to lay off people? Why isn't every corporation listed in Misplaced Pages have that same information listed?).

I have no ownership over any of the law firms that I marked and would need to go back to "my contributions" to see which ones I touched. I went through much of the NLJ 350 list -- at least for the firms that have Misplaced Pages pages.

Anyone revert text that was truly factual. No complaints from me. I hope, however, there are others like me who are not interested in reading so-called news or facts that are, in truth, gossip or unproven allegations.

Misplaced Pages should be informative and unbiased; too many petty posts, insignificant "news" (talk) 01:24, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Question - just so I understand

Hello again Eastlaw - Went to see what you reverted and started at the first page I touched, which was Nixon Peabody. I read over the page as a disinterested editor and didn't see how four-year-old news about an internal anthem was current or how provided neutral information about the firm, so I removed it. I see you put it back and I won't touch it but could you help me understand how it would be considered "encyclopedic content" which is what Misplaced Pages strives to provide. Misplaced Pages should be informative and unbiased; too many petty posts, insignificant "news" (talk) 01:53, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, that information may seem to border on the trivial initially, but it's actually important enough, in my opinion, and well verified. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I understand the concerns you are voicing, but the fact remains that while some material may seem odd or trivial, if it is properly sourced there is no reason for it not to be in the article. The fact that one firm may have more material in its article than other does not change this. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 22:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

container category edit for Category:Health,_education,_and_welfare_economics

Hello, E.

I notice that for your edit of the above at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Category:Health,_education,_and_welfare_economics&oldid=300551944

the template says that the Category should contain only subcategories, not article listings. Now that could be b/c (i) you believe that each articles belongs in a subcategory (H, E, or W). Or it could be that you believe (ii) Cat:HEW in principle should have no articles period. If it's the latter, I can think of reason why in principle they might be OK to include: if the respective articles straddle or go beyond the confines of one subcategory. The latter is suggested by this printout from http://www.aeaweb.org/jel/guide/jel_sub.php?class=I0 for JEL:I (HEW):

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General I 000 Health, Education, and Welfare: GeneralGuideline: Covers studies and data about general issues related to health, education and welfare.

Examples:Indicators and Targets for Social Inclusion in the European Union

If it's (ii) that you believe, it seems to me that the JEL classification would allow such a listing of example or articles & that therefore the corresponding WP JEL category should too.

May I ask your thoughts on the matter as to (i) vs. (ii) or on the previous sentence? I'll look for your answer here, though in your own good time, & not necessarily soon. Thank you. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 21:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I think I would agree more with statement (i). If you wish to get rid of the "container category" notice, that's OK with me. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 07:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Nice Talkback link, E. OK, thanks. I take no position here on whether the resp. articles belong there or at a lower-level JEL code. B/c I believe that containment template is likely to be read as (ii) and b/c any classification deficiency could be remedied by moving the HEW articles down, I'll do you what have suggested I might. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 15:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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	77,000+ Edits - good, very good! Editor's Barnstar is awarded to Eastlaw for his colossal contribution to the project. Keep it up. Mr T 08:14, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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Your help with Esther Martinez Native American Languages Preservation Act ?

Hi Eastlaw, you seem to be active on WP Public Policy and surely know more about how to describe a piece of legislation than I do. Could you look over the Esther Martinez Native American Languages Preservation Act and improve it a bit? Djembayz (talk) 03:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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	Good article at Wyeth v. Levine. I added a bit to the 'holding' to clarify it for laypersons. Bearian (talk) 12:10, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Question on tagging of pages

I notices you have tagged Cara Black career statistics as an orphan page even though it is not. Is this a tool that you are using that is falsely identifying it as having no incoming links?--Traveler100 (talk) 07:39, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I was going by the old rule that an article should have more than one incoming link in article space. Feel free to remove the tag if you feel I was wrong in applying it. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 09:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Fine, was just starting to analyse how these backlog lists build up. BTW I have added an extra parameter to {{Orphan}}. You can state few=date after the existing date=date to specify that although there are one or two incoming links it is felt that more are needed. --Traveler100 (talk) 13:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Catholic

I have used a nifty tool "CatScan" to create a list of articles that contain a {{CathEncy}} template and {{Catholic}} template. I have then imported that list (about 300 articles) and written an AWB script to populate an empty {{Catholic}} template from the {{CathEncy}} template and then delete the {{CathEncy}} template if it is not used as an inline citation.

Your user name came up several times in the first few articles that I examined, some from which I deleted the {{Catholic}} template because I could not see any text currently in the Misplaced Pages article that could be seen as plagiarised text from the Catholic Encyclopaedia without the attribution template.

I have just restarted going thorough my list in AWB (after a short R&R break) and the first article I looked at is Ambrose Shea. Looking at the text of the Misplaced Pages article I could not see any text that was copied from the Catholic Encyclopaedia.

Using another useful tool "wikiblame", I can see that you added the template to the article (20:52, 19 January 2009). I then looked further into the article's history:

Revision as of 23:42, 11 Dec. 2006: First big expansion and the source used was presumably the given source "Biography at the Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online"
Revision as of 08:37, 13 Oct. 2007: template CathEncy added to the external links section by JASpencer, but no text added.
Revision as of 20:52, 19 Jan. 2009: template Catholic added to the external links section by you, but AFAICT there was no need for it.

In the minute that you added the {{Catholic}} to Ambrose Shea you also added the same template to 6 other articles, and in the minute before and after you added the same template to another 7 and 12 articles.

I also notice that later in the month of January 2009 you did something similar to articles with the {{EB1911}}.

What were the criteria that you used for adding these templates and did they include checking to see if any text had been copied, or closely paraphrased, from a PD source before adding the template?

-- PBS (talk) 10:57, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. You're asking me about stuff that happened years ago that I don't even remember. --Eastlaw ⁄ _contribs 21:27, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I have just come across another edit Revision as of 16:05, 21 January 2009 to the article Frederick Cavendish Ponsonby can you remember the reason why you altered a endnote citation from the ODNB to the DNB into the template {{DNB}} implying that there was text copied from the DNB? and also can you remember why did you re-add the attribution template {{Nuttall}} when I had removed it at 11:23, 5 May 2008‎ stating that the Misplaced Pages text did not include the Nuttall text? -- PBS (talk) 22:58, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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