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Something for you to speedy, if it hasn't been done already

K07RE (if it's a redlink, someone's done their job) --CFIF ☎ 21:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. I already deleted three other fake stations today. :( --Firsfron of Ronchester 21:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Will you block the user who created the article for hoaxing Misplaced Pages? This is way past simple testing. --CFIF ☎ 21:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Kpjas

Wow, thanks for the info. Did you say that on the RfA itself? If not, you really should - it might sway some other votes, as well. I don't know if his RfA will succeed, but if it does, I'm sure he'll do his job well. --Mr. Lefty _{Talk to me!} 23:06, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Kpjas' RFA

Hmm, OK. But their talk edits are very low. Possibly because the user isn't that good at english. And having an admin who isn't very good at english could create major problems. So I don't know...--Andeh 23:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Five edits later and I've managed to move to support, maybe it's time for some coffee?--Andeh 00:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, yes. But I am doing other things not just browsing Wiki ;). Thank you for poking me to change my vote. Did you poke everyone else? I love helping other peoples RfA's pass to be honest.--Andeh 00:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

See his RFA. QuarterZ | *t* | *c 02:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:Kpjas' RFA

Hi Firsfron, and thank you for your message. I have no doubt that Kpjas is an experienced, knowledgeable editor who would not abuse the admin tools - my reason for voting neutral stemmed from the fact that in his response to the questions, I didn't think the tasks he mentioned wanting to work on were those in which the admin tools would be necessary. I agree with the points raised by other editors at the RFA stating that had his adminship status and astounding number of edits on the Polish wiki been brought up initially, the early votes would likely have been different. I see that since those points have been mentioned, his RFA is now at 79% support. I will continue to check the RFA page and Kpjas' recent contributions throughout the next few days, and I would be open to changing my vote to support if Kpjas' contributions continue to be promising and if more support is needed toward Saturday. Fabricationary 03:31, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Another RE: Kpjas' RFA,

Actually, my oppose was more due to lack of activity, not inexperience. 5000 edits over 5 years really isn't that much (and I think that "one edit every 8 hours" thing is a bit misleading). I don't think it's much to ask that administrators on en.wiki are active participants in the goings on on en.wiki. I was planning on changing to neutral anyway, because when it comes down to it, there's no reason to assume he would misuse the tools. -- Steel 10:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

In the end I decided to support, as he did say he's become more active here recently and plans to increase that activity. -- Steel 10:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Yet Another Re:the RfA...

... don't you wish I were more original? :)

Thanks for taking the time to point out that Kpjas was more qualified than I had thought - it was a great kindness, and I'm sure s/he would be grateful for your efforts. On their behalf, thanks for being awesome. RandyWang (/_patch) 10:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

To be Deleted

Is there some reason you reverted me edit? The episode is fake- a joke made up by Nick. Some people don't know that and it needs to be deleted. ForestH2 t/c 14:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is a hoax. ForestH2 t/c 14:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Kpjas' RFA

Thanks for telling me that he was an admin on the Polish Misplaced Pages. Had I not been told by you, I would have kept my vote as Oppose. Good job, Firsfron. If Kpjas does get successfully voted as admin, then you're definitely the reason why. --Nishkid64 14:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

1000th Admin

You may want to add {{NUMBEROFADMINS}} to your page to keep track of the exact number. There have been a bunch of recent desysoppings that has held the number down a bit to the current figure of 848. Yes, such milestones are fun to keep track of, and we if mentioned now we could get a bunch of people to apply for RFA now in hopes of being #1000. I'm sure someone will bring this up on WT:RFA; maybe that someone should be you :). NoSeptember 03:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Kpjas RFA

Hi Firsfron, I've changed my vote on Kpjas' RFA after considering the issues you've raised to my attention. Thank you for informing me about his activities at the Polish Misplaced Pages. You've gave me more knowledge about this user, and a person with a lot of exprience. --Terence Ong _{(T | C)} 11:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Displaced Brit is back

And he's decided to file a nice little RfC against me. CFIF ☎ 02:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Test Misplaced Pages in Quenya

I have started a test Misplaced Pages in Quenya: . Now let's make an encyclopaedia! ;) --Djordje D. Bozovic 22:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, my articles aren't any better. ;) But since this is a very beginning, we're doing great so far! :D --Djordje D. Bozovic 23:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, that's very good! I think that Tolkien must be smiling gratefully on us now from the above. :) --Djordje D. Bozovic 00:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:Lost Knob

Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Lost Knob --CFIF ☎ 21:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: User:Firsfron/TV Markets 2

Greetings. This user page is currently showing up in many article categories due to the templates on the page, and user pages are not supposed to be categorized in that manner. One possible fix would be to subst all the templates on this page, and then remove all the categories, or you could also ask an admin for a speedy delete of the entire page if you don't really need it. Thanks for working with me on this, and if you should have any questions, please don't hestitate to ask. This is just a part of my ongoing effort to clean up Misplaced Pages categories. Stevie is the man! 02:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Admin

Hi,

Thank you for your congratulations and for your support during the nomination process. I really appreciate the trust you place in me and I'll do my best as a new admin. Kpjas 05:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit

I'm sorry. I made the assumption it was just one of those cases in which someone might add quotation marks (to a book, for example), even if it is already italicized. Michael 06:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

CFIF

I am a bit worried about CFIF, since he seems to have a history of uncivil behavior and making accusations without proof. The incident with Displaced Brit and Lost Knob seems to be the latest in an ongoing series, something that I discovered when looking at his history during his RFC. I left him a note that I felt he was really ignoring ] quite often. He has made some good edits, but this kind of behavior may be his downfall. He seems to have made at least two false accusations in the past few months and makes another baseless accusation on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Paul Dellegatto in what appears to be an attempt to skew an AFD of an article he created, something he has done more than once before. TV Newser 03:05, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

A smile for you...

Michael has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

My RfA

Thanks! Thank you very much for your support on my recent Request for Adminship, and for your faith in my ability to improve in the future. The request was ultimately unsuccessful - which wasn't entirely surprising - and so I'll be taking special care to address the concerns raised by the opposing !voters before running again. If you have any feedback for me, please don't hesitate to leave it at my talk page. Thanks! -- RandyWang (/patch) 13:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:CFIF

Thanks for your note. Another thing I don't get is his almost instant invovation of "Spotteddogsdotorg sockpuppet" in television related AFD votes. Given the evidence I have seen and the bit of investigating I have done, the person behind User:Mr. Scott Brown, Scott Brown, a very disgruntled person with a series of grudges, against the tvnewstalk.net website and someone who uses the handle nyviewer there. Apparently CFIF also has a grudge against this nyviewer and he would stand as yet another possible suspect in this case, or at least someone with a hidden agenda. I know for a fact that this nyviewer is not and I have actually communicated with him and was told it was Scott Brown and was shown various communications by Brown to the domain's owner and some server logs he showed me. All of this surfaced when I was investigating User:Displaced Brit's allegations against CFIF. Mr. Scott Brown is a more likely suspect, ginve the little thing we in the journalism industry call facts and evidence, plus something we call gut feeling. The person he accuses of being the ring leader did have a Misplaced Pages account, which was not on the list of the alleged sockpuppets, that he said got either got hacked or lost the password to which lead him to give up on Misplaced Pages. I spent enough of my time investigating this crap, basically engaging in what I do for my day job, I seemed to forgot why I even got on here to begin with and it has ceased being fun and I frankly think CFIF is suffering from some sort of parinoia with his sockpuppet allegations, albiet less than Mr. Scott Brown. The only good that has come of this is that I have discoverd a great 1970s cop show called The Sweeney, which I have just spent an absurd amount of money getting on DVD from the UK. TV Newser 22:10, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Townships in Iowa

Hi Elkman,

Back in July, you disambiguated the article on Monti, Iowa, changing the link to township to civil township. Somehow, the article on Monti fell off my userlist, and I did not notice the change until now. Unfortunately, it's not correct: Iowa has no civil townships, only survey townships. I have reverted this change, which was no big deal. However, since you used AWB to make the change, I wonder how many other articles you made the switch to now have this incorrect disambiguation: any article concerning places in Iowa will definitely be mistaken. Do you recall how many articles you AWB'd? Were there many on articles relating to the state of Iowa? I'm sorry I didn't tell you sooner, but as I said, I just now noticed the mistake, which could have happened to anyone. Sorry. Firsfron of Ronchester 04:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I think I took the reference to "Newton Township" as meaning that it was a civil township, not (just) a survey township. I'm used to townships in Minnesota, where a civil township (like Northfield Township, Minnesota) is usually coterminous with a survey township (like T 111 N, R 20 W). That's not really always the case, though -- I think Breitung Township, Minnesota spans more than two survey townships. In any case, here's an approximate link to the disambiguations I did. I think Monti, Iowa is the only one in Iowa that I did; for the most part, I stuck to Minnesota and a few other oddball states.

Note that the link to these contributions includes the start of a major hissy fit that I was having against SPUI. That was probably a much bigger mistake than the disambiguation I was doing. It's not something I'm proud of, and that was the beginning of the end of my career as a "good" editor. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 04:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Mr. Scott Brown

Hi,

I closed the debate after the regular five-day interval (I know some guidelines say 8 days now, but I stick with the older standard, also written down somewhere in deletion policy, which is common practice of other regular MfD closers as well.) I noticed your comments in sympathy to the user, but I also noted that they were not the consensus view. It appeared that the consensus did not feel extending courtesy to a suspected sockpuppet was warranted. I see no reason to dispute this conclusion. The number of commenters was quite typical for an MfD, rarely as "popular" as its AfD cousin.

As always, though, I am open to any message from the user concerned to restore temporarily his content for his use. I also have no problem with your userfying the content, if you really desire such. I think my closure was proper, however, and I stand behind it. Best wishes, Xoloz 18:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Emprically speaking, you are simply incorrect to say that the number of comments was unusually small. Three definite deletes + nomination + Splash's inferred support for deletion is more than most of these discussion get, as could be shown through an objective analysis.

As to the rest, we simply disagree regarding the level of courtesy due this user, or rather about what consensus said on this question (I have no personal view at all.) I found a consensus contrary to your expressed view, and you object. Such disagreements happen from time to time, and there is no reason for either of us to think the other is being absurd. (I take it from the tone of your reply that you cannot understand my position, which is unfortunate, but I assure you that I am rational person, just as you are.) You are always welcome to take the matter to deletion review; personally, I'd find that a bit odd, given my willingness to undelete temporarily for the user in question, if he asks reasonably (a willingness I have for every userpage MfD I close in deletion.) Nevertheless, if you wish to dispute the close further, DRV is the place. Best wishes, Xoloz 18:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

You asserted that WP:BITE applied and that the matter was out of process in the debate itself. These assertions were not supported by consensus, which seemed to hold that notice on the userpage itself was sufficient. While I did briefly check the talk page, you're quite right that I gave little weight to anything there, as relevant claims should be made in the debate proper. Best wishes, Xoloz 19:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

One last tiny bit on this. My understanding of English is that the phrased "frowned upon" is much weaker than "prohibited." A consensus is perfectly capable of forgiving a requirement that is only "frowned upon." I continue to believe this deletion was perfectly in process, and your stridency in this matter surprises me. Best wishes, Xoloz 00:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, heart-to-heart and without continuing our "argument", the reason I don't feel bad about this is that the only thing I require from the user is that he contact me and ask nicely. I would post a message to him to that effect, but if (as some suspect) he is a bad-faith user, this might be courting a problem. I don't consider requiring him to contact me a heavy inconvenience, and I will be very nice to him if he does. :) I do respect you for "standing up for the newbie"; I'm not an unfriendly guy, and I look forward to working with you in the future. Best wishes, Xoloz 02:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Ace of Base

Thanks for your post. Have you tried asking people on billboard.com about these certifications? I was sufficiently intrigued by this discrepancy and did some Googling but couldn't find any site with RIAA-related information mentioning AoB RIAA diamond award. I am surprised that Arista bothered to apply for diamond certification for an act that's not signed to their label anymore. Actually, I seem to recall reading about The Sign getting the diamond award, but why RIAA doesn't mention it anymore anywhere on it's site is a bit of a mystery.

Scholar91 09:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. If you go to billboard.com you'll see they have several editors who answer questions from the readers, including about the sales. Regarding RIAA certification, it's not only the application fee: RIAA have to audit the information supplied by the label and it also involves payments for their services. And since Ace of Base was no longer signed to Arista in 2002, I find it a bit strange that Arista applied for the certification for their former act.

Scholar91 00:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I've got something for ya!

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/WTVT...please close it if someone else hasn't. I'm starting to wonder if this is a Displaced Brit/Spotteddogsdotorg sock....--CFIF ☎ 22:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Help

On ATA Airlines, where I recently put a high-resolution public domain image that I took myself, a user keeps removing it without a valid reason, I feel that this is another attempt to troll against me. --CFIF ☎ 00:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Forget about it, another user has stepped in. --CFIF ☎ 00:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

The IP vandal has re-started again. Ughh....I'm so goddamn tired of this. I can't upload an image without someone trying to get rid of it! >:-( --CFIF ☎ 00:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which was successful with a an overwhelmingly flattering and deeply humbling total of 138/2/2 (putting me #10 on the RfA WP:100). I guess infinite monkey theorem has been officially proven. Chimps really can get somewhere on Misplaced Pages. With new buttons come great responsibility, and I'll try my best to live up to your expectations. If you need assistance with something, don't hesitate to swing by my talk page or email me (trust me, I do respond :)). The same goes for any complaints or comments in regard to my administrative actions. Remember, I'm here for you. (Thanks go to Blnguyen for the incredible photo to the right.) alphaChimp 01:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi

How're you doing? - Ballista 03:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Pretty good, thanx. Very pre-occupying time in 'real life' at present but it's good. Bet the adminship is keeping you extra busy. - Ballista 03:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh boy - wish you well with your health - I'm setting exams, marking exams, getting ready for holiday etc. - all in a day's work, apart from the day job! - Ballista 04:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Right on - creating & grading would cover it & it's MY holiday, which has to be combined with a teaching trip, wouldn't you know. Still, that's no sweat & a very sociable activity. - Ballista 04:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah - didn't think of the language 'barrier' - V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N! I'm not really a 'teacher', I just teach when invited. Have you had you V-word, yet? - Ballista 04:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Did I catch you saying 'Autumn'? - Ballista 04:54, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Nobody's perfect! - Ballista 05:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Winhunter's RfA thanks

Hi Firsfron, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful today with a finaly tally of (56/0/3). I will be very careful at first to avoid any mistakes. Please feel free to leave a message in my talk page if you have any comments/suggestions about me in the future. Once again, thank you! --WinHunter 09:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Whenever you're free....

Firsfron,

If you get a moment, User:MrT99 has placed a phony block on User:TPIRFanSteve's talk page. Knowing Steve, he's not going to fall for this, but it's still not the most pleasing thing a wikieditor can do. Lambertman 14:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Further update: T99's inseted two F-bombs into a message Steve left on T's talkpage. I think we can now assume bad faith. Lambertman 18:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

He's also repeatedly edited false information about upcoming, non-existant set changes into various pages for The Price Is Right and Wheel of Fortune. It's a simple matter to fix it, of course, but it's becoming clear that he's not going to stop by himself. -TPIRFanSteve 00:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

First experience with vandalism

I recently visited the page that I created for Grallator and was disgusted by the vandalism that I witnessed there. You can visit it and see for yourself (at your own risk). I dont know how to delete what they did or lock the page from such edits, but if you could help me, that would be great.

Thanks, Jeremy Safran

Milkman3113

Hey, thanks for blocking this guy, but could you also delete those images he uploaded? Their only purpose was vandalism, and they're probably imagevios anyway. Thanks, --Mr. Lefty _{Talk to me!} 19:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I just wanted to add my thanks, too. Firsfron of Ronchester 19:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome, though I think you probably did more actual good than I did. I saw your discussion on his talk page. I wish I could be half that patient and polite with people who hit my 'hot-button' issues. Well done. --CBD 21:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Whoops..

I think it actually may be a virus screwing with my browser, which isnt good either, but the Grallator page appears normal to me too now. So no worries. Sorry for the false alarm. Safranes 05:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Didn't mean to sound insulting

I suppose I am as familiar with Masssiveegos' editing as anyone, so perhaps I expect that others will be aware of his patterns to the level I am. Hope you don't misinterpret my comments as anything other than suggestions that explain why many have zero patience for him anymore...but that is why I didn't block him myself.--MONGO 08:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

BenH back with another sock

69.68.216.31 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) has been making the same type of edits as BenH, and has the same ISP. I think a block for this IP would be in order. --CFIF ☎ ⋐ 15:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

JPD's RfA

Thanks, Firsfron, for your support at my RfA, which finished with a tally of 94/1/0. I am glad you found nothign to object to, although I will continue to try to use tempalte approrpriately. I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me in my activities as an administrator. JPD (talk) 16:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

America One

I removed the see also link for America One because as an employee of the Affiliate Sales department for America One, we do not wish to have our Affiliate List listed on Misplaced Pages. Also, the list on Wiki is incorrect. Thank you! Jheibel 21:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Polls:

Hi. I'm just sending out a message for a new study I will be undertaking soon. It will involve surveys & polls to gather information & trends of editors on Misplaced Pages & other subjects. The data gathering will involve yourself recieving a questionaire on your talk page for you to fill out. I will then collect your questionaire & combine it with data from other editors. If you would like to be a part of this experiment, or know of someone who does, place a "Yes" or "No" below this message. Remember, it's only for fun & you can choose not to fill out all or parts of your questionaire once they arrive. Have a nice day... -- Spawn Man 05:41, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I'm also adding you to my friends list, just cause you're a super nice guy! :) Spawn Man 05:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and thank you! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 20:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Np! As soon as I get enough people, I'll send out a questionaire. Thanks! Spawn Man 22:08, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Quenya

Hi Firsfron. Yeah, I had seen the Quenya incubator and told the folks at Wikiproject Middle-earth about it. I have been meaning to take a closer look, but have been wading through a ton of other stuff lately. Definitely looks interesting. --CBD 13:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

1st poll:

Hi everyone! This is the 1st ever poll to be sent out. Please read the Disclaimer below & enjoy! -- Spawn Man 05:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships

• Question 1: Do you feel that other Wikipedians are as nice (or as horrible!) as when you started editing Misplaced Pages as a registered user?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Roughly about the same. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 2: If you answered "No" above, how have other Wikipedian's attitudes changed?
  • A)They have grown nicer. B)They have grown meaner. C)Don't know. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.

• Question 3: Are admins as nice as you think they should be? If you're an admin, try to be truthful...
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• Question 4: Have you ever been in a serious dispute on Misplaced Pages?
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• Question 5: Have you ever been blocked from editing Misplaced Pages?
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• Question 6: Have you ever met another editor on Misplaced Pages in real life?
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• Question 7: Do you enjoy communicating or working with other editors on Misplaced Pages?
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• Question 8: Have you ever taken a "Wikibreak" due to stress from other editors?
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• Question 9: Have you ever collaborated on an article with another editor on Misplaced Pages?
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• Question 10: Do you envy other editors on Misplaced Pages for their achievements or good fortune? Be honest...
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Wikiproject Dinosaur's heated discussion

I want to personally thank you for defusing the situation (as of current, we haven't heard what Soo has to say) between Soo & myself. It was, well, quite brilliantly prosed & for that, I can think of no other award than the Civil Barnstar. Keep up your happy attitude. Getting me to not argue is no small feat! ;). Have a great day mate, Spawn Man 08:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Lucky I read your post on my talk page first, or I wouldn't have been able to resist the urge to rip into him for calling me a child. I don't know how many times I've said it!: I'm not a child! Just cause one person said I was, then I forgot to correct that I wasn't, now everyone bloody thinks I'm a fourteen year old!?! Anyway, you have a kind of calming efect with your posts (on me anyway), so the award is well deserved. Don't let doofus who's still angry for some reason taint your good work. Thanks Firsfron! Spawn Man 21:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Kudos for WikiProject_Dinosaurs/missing

Thanks for your work on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Dinosaurs/shortest_articles aka Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Dinosaurs/missing. :-) -- Writtenonsand 15:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

T-rex

Congrats on getting T-rex on the main page! --Fang Aili 16:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Michelle Kwan is pretty close to Good Article status, Figure skating is getting there.. --Fang Aili 19:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at it. :) It was recently nominated already. Basically it needs filling out in a few places, and more references. It's very doable; I (or someone) just needs to get on it. --Fang Aili 03:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: 12k, thank you! --Fang Aili 03:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Frys104

Well, I didn't exactly block them; all I did was tag whatever pages were in the category. Some were blocked though. Ryūlóng 20:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Go raibh maith agat!

Thanks for the comment! That's terrific advice; I hope to remain a simple user, just one with a souped up monobook! hoopydink 02:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Logos

I don't think the logos are violating any rules, since they are only being shown next to their corresponding network, just like on their page. it is not being displayed on a template....however, i don't know why they cannot be shown on a template. Raccoon Fox • Talk • Stalk 00:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Dispute resolution help

Hi. I found your name on the member list for WP:IOWA, and I was hoping you could help me get a better understanding of the dispute resolution process or perhaps help me in an informal manner. A couple of editors have recently added some irrelevant—and in some cases offensive—information to the Ottumwa High School article. While I'm sure that most school articles (especially high school articles) often experience this type of nonsensical editing, an attempt to politely negotiate with Imfromottumwa (talk · contribs) seems to confirm that he/she'll not be reasonable when discussing edits. What's the next step for an article where a further revert would cause me to violate WP:3RR? --McMillin24 _contribs 23:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up and help! --McMillin24 _contribs 03:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

...

Thanks for your welcome! --Gisse 01:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Matching handbag

Thanks for the encouragement - however, I've run into some deep water, just now, trying to sort out the Nemegt nonsense. - Ballista 08:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again - I think I've cracked it now, at last, but I'm sure you can help, with a check over the stuff and perhaps some additions/clarifications. I'm hoping it will spell the end of hitherto endless red links on the subject. - Ballista 09:02, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - as you can probably see from my contributions list, I've been playing with all sorts of bits & pieces, related to Nemegt, to try to tie them all in together properly. It took a fair bit more time than I wanted to spend, so I hope it works OK. BTW good to see you rampant on the Titanosaurs, flushed you out, there, didn't I? - Ballista 09:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

We'll see what happens with her, I guess. As far as Misplaced Pages goes, I think I'll start slowly, maybe expand some of the lesser-known species like I was when I first got here, then wade back in full-force. I'm itching to get something else featured eventually! Sheep81 09:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I actually did see it, just randomly happened to log on last week and it was there! Good timing, I guess. Sheep81 09:42, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Nemegt

Thanks for feedback - not quite sure what you meant about 'so many articles' - not sure how we could reduce them, as they either refer to different geological formations (Nemegt, Djadochta etc.) or to different aspects of the region (e.g. topography and geology/paleontology). That way, as I say, we should be able to tidy up links in other articles - I'll make a start on it. - Ballista 09:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

WTVT news team/WTSP/WTSP News team

Could you rename these to Paul Dellegatto and Dick Fletcher, respectively....Borox (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) moved the article without discussion and basically ruined the articles. --CFIF ☎ ⋐ 13:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

My first clean up

Hey, I just cleaned up Ideal_(TV_series). Can you tell me if it's up to Misplaced Pages standards and if I need to change anything? Much appreciated. --B33R 21:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it was the edits, layout, how it's presented etc. that I wasn't 100% sure about, so that answers my question perfectly. Thanks. --B33R 23:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Email

I've never been able to get the hand of the "Email this user" function, but I'd like to contact you with some diffs you may find interesting, and hopefully will change your view on this ridiculous community ban proposal. I can be reached at danofalltrades7@hotmail.com. Please send me an email, blank is fine, so I can illustrate my point. I'd do so on Misplaced Pages, but when I do the edits tend to get reverted and my account tends to get Wikistalked. Regards, Freestylefrappe (Epparfelytseerf 02:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for your note. I went on the record at WP:AN/I that I felt a community ban on FSF was, in my opinion, not the best solution for Misplaced Pages, because of FSF's thousands of good contributions to the encyclopedia in article space. I'm not sure you want me to "change my view", but I'm willing to listen. I've sent you an e-mail. Firsfron of Ronchester 06:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Another Displaced Brit sock

Chase Fully Insignificant Fecker (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (notice what the first letter of each word spells out) is reverting all of my edits. --CFIF ☎ ⋐ 00:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

2nd Poll:

Hi everyone! This is the 2nd poll ever to be sent out. Please read the Disclaimer below & enjoy! -- Spawn Man 09:02, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Poll 2 - Writing subjects

• Question 1: When you edit or write articles on Misplaced Pages, do you specialise, or tend to write about a single or select topic range? For example, only frogs or only movies.
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)I have a few topics I write about. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 2: If you have more than only one topic range, what are the top 3 topics or subjects you write about on Misplaced Pages? For example, frogs, movies & cars.
  • A)My top 3 are... B)I have less than 3 topic ranges. C)Don't know. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.

• Question 3: Have you ever written or edited an article about your home town or the city you live in?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Briefly. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 4: Have you ever edited what was, or turned out to be, a controversial subject or article in current news or on Misplaced Pages?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. D)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 5: Have you ever reverted vandalism?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.

• Question 6: Have you ever helped get an article to Featured Article status?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)I helped partly. D)I've edited a Featured Article after it was promoted, but never helped to get one featured. E)Not sure. F)Other... (Please explain). G)Abstain.

• Question 7: Do you find it difficult to think of things to write about on Misplaced Pages?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 8: On Misplaced Pages, do you edit articles to do with Misplaced Pages policies & voting etc more frequently than you edit actual encyclopedic articles?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)I have an equal mix of the two. D)Occasionally. E)Not sure. F)Other... (Please explain). G)Abstain.

• Question 9: Do you wish there was a Misplaced Pages article about your life?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 10: Would you like to expand the range of topics you write about on Misplaced Pages?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)I don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 11: Do you usually write about topics that are to do with your job, school or hobbies?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)I don't work, I've never been to school & I don't have hobbies. :(. E)I don't know. F)Other... (Please explain). G)Abstain.

Hi everyone. If this is your first time filling out a survey, read this. To fill out a questionaire sheet, simply send me a post to my talk page, clearly stating your choice for each answer. For example: For Question 1, you might choose to place on the message, "Q1: A)" or "Question 1: Choice A." etc etc. It's up to you, as long as I get the general jist of what your choices are. You have around 1 week to return a survey sheet, but late entrie's will be accepted.

Remember however, your personal choices may be read whilst they are on my talk page. I will understand if you don't wish to answer some or all of the survey due to this. For this reason I have also placed an "Abstain" choice for each question. Try & answer truthfully, or don't answer at all if you can't.

However, your personal choices will not be expressed on the survey's outcome, instead it will be part of a larger finding, such as "60% of people eat chocolate, 25% never eat chocolate & 5% of people chose to abstain from answering..." I will never say, "90% of people eat chocolate, while only Fruityman said he didn't..." This would be an invasion of privacy. However, if a question has (Please explain) or (Please elaborate) as a choice, your specific answer may be used in the survey outcome, although your name will not be. If a question does not have (Please explain) as a question choice, but your intended choice is not represented on the choice list, then feel free to provide another choice which fits your description.

You're probably getting bored reading all of this so I'll wrap up. To see outcomes of the results, see my Polls subpage. Feel free to comment on anything! Feedback is always welcome. Most importantly, have fun. Topics will vary greatly & surveys may be resent out at later times to re-assess a consensus if survey numbers have grown significantly. If you know anyone who would be interested in these surveys, send them to my talk page or if you see this survey sheet, send your own answers in! Thanks. -- Spawn Man.

September Esperanza Newsletter

For your reading pleasure, the newest Esperanza newsletter can be found at Misplaced Pages:Esperanza/Newsletter. —Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, Freakofnurture, and Titoxd 04:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Featured article candidate review: Buffy article

Hi

Just letting WikiProject Buffyverse members know that the article 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' has recently been nominated as a candidate to become a featured article. Should it become a featured article, it will be possible for the article to appear on the Misplaced Pages main page on March 10th 2007, the 10th anniversary of Buffy (the premiere, "Welcome to the Hellmouth" aired March 10th 1997).

Any feedback you can offer to improve the article and/or to either object or support the nomination would be wonderful:

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Buffy the Vampire Slayer

-- Paxomen 17:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Protecting children's privacy

Hi. You contributed to the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Protecting children's privacy. If you have the time and interest, I'm asking contributors to past a brief summary of their position on the proposal here, thanks. Herostratus 20:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

15,000

15,000 - Wayhey man - some editing! - Ballista 04:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Babies and bathwater

I've answered on WP:ANI. >Radiant< 20:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Removing personal attacks or other potential offenses

Hi, I just noticed that you didn't like when Radiant replaced someones inflammatory comment after someone else removed it. I just wanted to add my say in, because this has been an issue before on talk pages i've been on. While personal attacks are to be avoided, I find that removing them increases the problem rather than abating it. Especially when people are discussing the problem at hand, things get very confusing when comments that one person talks about magically disappear. Outsiders wonder whos lying, or if they're lying, or what the hell's going on.

So for me, removing any comment is bad, and should simply never happen. Insensitive comments like "shut the fuck up" are history of someones character, and help others judge how to respond to that user. Anyways, that just my opinion - I always replace comments that I notice have been deleted. Fresheneesz 01:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

blocked?

Thanks for your faith! - Ballista 03:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships RESULTS

• Question 1: Do you feel that other Wikipedians are as nice (or as horrible!) as when you started editing Misplaced Pages as a registered user?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Roughly about the same. D)Don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 2: If you answered "No" above, how have other Wikipedian's attitudes changed?
  • A)They have grown nicer. B)They have grown meaner. C)Don't know. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.

• Question 3: Are admins as nice as you think they should be? If you're an admin, try to be truthful...
  • A)Yes. B)No, they are nicer. C)No, they are meaner/grumpier. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 4: Have you ever been in a serious dispute on Misplaced Pages?
  • A)Yes. B)No, I've never been in a dispute. C)No, I've only been in minor disputes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 5: Have you ever been blocked from editing Misplaced Pages?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. (You can find out by checking "My contributions" & selecting "block log"). D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.

• Question 6: Have you ever met another editor on Misplaced Pages in real life?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Not sure. D)Other... (Please explain). E)Abstain.

• Question 7: Do you enjoy communicating or working with other editors on Misplaced Pages?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 8: Have you ever taken a "Wikibreak" due to stress from other editors?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)No, I've only taken a "Wikibreak" due to un-editor related stress. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 9: Have you ever collaborated on an article with another editor on Misplaced Pages?
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Several times. D)Not sure. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

• Question 10: Do you envy other editors on Misplaced Pages for their achievements or good fortune? Be honest...
  • A)Yes. B)No. C)Sometimes. D)I don't know. E)Other... (Please explain). F)Abstain.

These are the results for Poll 1 - Wikipedian relationships. For the actual questions see above. Other (please explain) answers may have their text placed into these results for clarity. However, only a selection of Other (please explain) samples may be included if full selection is too big. Options not expressed means that nobody picked them. Any thoughts are appreciated.

• Question 1: Of the 14 editors to answer Q1; 3 editors (21%) chose option A), 6 editors (43%) chose option B), 2 editors (14%) chose option C), 1 editor (7%) chose option D) & 2 editors (14%) chose option E), saying "People need to be nicer to one another. The other site I tend to inhabit is much more civil, and always has been" & "It really depends on the individual; some are as nice as ever while others have acquired noticeably dourer dispositions."

• Question 2: Of the 7 editors to answer Q2; 3 editors (43%) chose option A), 2 editors (29%) chose option B) & 2 editors (29%) chose option D), saying "The focus needs to be more on building the encyclopedia, and less on internal politics, in my opinion" & "Passive aggressiveness is more prominent than before."

• Question 3: Of the 14 editors to answer Q3; 4 editors (29%) chose option A), 2 editors (14%) chose option C), 3 editors (21%) chose option D) & 5 editors (36%) chose option E), saying "Admins need to realize their behaviors reflect on the entire Misplaced Pages community" & "Again, it depends on the individual" & "Administrators are not as professional as they should be."

• Question 4: Of the 14 editors to answer Q4; 8 editors (57%) chose option A), 5 editors (36%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "It depends on the definition of "serious". I've been involved in some that got fairly acrimonious, but mostly over things that might be considered relatively trivial in some quarters."

• Question 5: Of the 14 editors to answer Q5; 1 editor (7%) chose option A), 11 editors (79%) chose option B) & 2 editors (14%) chose option D), saying "Yes but it was overturned" & "I was blocked by accident when someone hacked my email."

• Question 6: Of the 14 editors to answer Q6; 5 editors (36%) chose option A), 7 editors (50%) chose option B) & 2 editors (14%) chose option C).

• Question 7: Of the 14 editors to answer Q7; 8 editors (57%) chose option A), 4 editors (29%) chose option C) & 2 editors (14%) chose option E), saying "For the most part, yes" & "Yes, but not always (but more than 'Sometimes')."

• Question 8: Of the 14 editors to answer Q8; 5 editors (36%) chose option A), 6 editors (43%) chose option B), 2 editors (14%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "Only to deal with real life time consuming things."

• Question 9: Of the 14 editors to answer Q9; 9 editors (64%) chose option A), 1 editor (7%) chose option B), 3 editors (21%) chose option C), & 1 editor (7%) chose option E), saying "I suppose I have, but not directly. I haven't spoken to someone directly and said, okay let's work on this together."

• Question 10: Of the 14 editors to answer Q10; 2 editors (14%) chose option A), 7 editors (50%) chose option B), 4 editors (29%) chose option C) & 1 editor (7%) chose option D).

Hope you enjoy the results which you, the editors of Misplaced Pages, changed in every way. Have a ncie day! -- Spawn Man 10:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Displaced Brit sockpuppetry

66.219.146.142 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) another IP to ban. --CFIF ☎ ⋐ 21:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

16K

Woot. Good job! :) --Fang Aili 04:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)