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Hi Incnis,

I happened upon your retired status. I'm sorry to see you go, as you've made many valuable contributions to WP Math, WP Physics and associated articles. I wish you good luck in your future work. --Mark viking (talk) 20:21, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Hope to see you back soon. We need more knowledgeable unpolished sunowabitches like you around here. YohanN7 (talk) 20:06, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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Other alphabets in Morse code listed at Redirects for discussion

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World Heritage

FYI; I've probably removed hundreds of links/references to those World Heritage mirrors over the last few months. Their attribution method has confused even experienced editors. There's actually quite a few more domains involved - I've started a list here. More have popped up recently. Kuru (talk) 15:04, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

IMHO the fakers could (and will) register hundreds more domains, especially in zones related to countries where intellectual rights are unenforceable. Maintaining such a list – a task for a Web indexing and search site, not for a wiki. But Wikimedia Foundation can suggest Project Gutenberg (the “.org” one) to dissociate its “.us” parasitic twin, kicking it from “self.gutenberg.org” in a relatively respectable second-level domain. It would confine our dear scammers in the Internet’s underworld. “P. G. Consortia Center” (gutenberg.us) and “World Public Library” = “W. H. Encyclopedia™” are likely the same gang. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:34, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Snark

"Some basic understanding of light polarization will not hurt." Very, very clever comment. Not constructive though. But oh so clever. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:08, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

List of territories governed by the United Nations

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GA nomination

Hi IM!

I know you are not involved much these days, but I thought I might let you know that I have nominated Representation theory of the Lorentz group for good article rating.

Best, YohanN7 (talk) 11:39, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Train_wreck#In_French_'collision_ferroviaire' 23 January 2018 (UTC)magnon86

J+12 : i see this user is 'retired' Sorry Magnon86 (talk) 22:35, 4 February 2018 (UTC)magnon86

Help please

Sir, Hi, Greetings. Sir you added a comment for my request for file mover in commons. Sir you said some of my limitations. Sir please help me by giving advices to overcome it. PATH SLOPU 12:38, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Replied. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:42, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Do not edit the user pages of CU blocked accounts

I've reverted these edits. The user is free to appeal their block, and I have no opinion one way or another about it, but they need to be the ones to appeal it, or the blocking admin/another CheckUser needs to deal with it. You are not an admin or SPI clerk on en.wiki, and basically editing the user page to say to ignore the tag is disruptive. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Essentially repeating the same thing I told on IRC, but for this time you, TonyBallioni, certainly knew that Solomon203 appealed the block and a sysop reacted with a run-around without really touching the substance. If Huon has neither devices to judge about “the technical evidence” nor qualification to analyze the case as a whole, then why is he entitled to put official resolutions onto such unblock requests? IMHO many of yours know why – that’s your modern Misplaced Pages. But look… the great English Misplaced Pages is vigilant to deny write access for important accountability to a random Incnis_Mrsi. Hopefully you may understand why I despise this regime nowadays. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 04:27, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Any administrator may decline any unblock request if they feel there is no policy-based reason to grant it. At the time, Huon was 100% correct to decline it, as no CheckUser would have given him consent to lift it. en.wiki admins can be desysoped for lifting CU blocks without the consent of a CheckUser, and most CU block appeals on en.wiki are declined by non-CUs on these grounds, with the appeal referred to the Arbitration Committee as a last resort.As you know, a global unlock does not mean that local blocks are invalidated: each local project must decide whether or not to unblock. On en.wiki, we only usually accept active appeals from users themselves, not third parties. There is no such appeal in this case on-wiki. If the CU who blocked him or another CU wants to unblock on their own, they may, but if there is going to be an active appeal discussion, the user themselves needs to make it.Finally, none of this has anything to do with the fact that your edits to that page were disruptive and were basically skirting the local practice where only admins, CUs, and SPI clerks can place or remove sockpuppet tags. Like I said: I don't have any opinion on this block one way or another, but I do expect you to respect the policies, guidelines, and practices of this local project, just as users from this project should respect the policies, guidelines, and practices of other projects. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:42, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Aren’t functionaries of en.Misplaced Pages trained to read carefully and apply a due effort to understand? Again: Huon… is entitled to put official resolution onto such unblock request. We are not arguing whether to lift the block by a single sysop. We argue why may such run-around reply be binding. I remember well what you Westerners wrote about my English in 2013, but no serious Wikipedian can argue that I am not intelligible to a qualified reader. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 06:05, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes. Any sysop can decline any unblock request on en.wiki unless they are involved: even on CU blocks. The user is free to appeal again (like I said above, I am neither for or against lifting the block). They are the ones who need to appeal, however. TonyBallioni (talk) 12:51, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

An experienced en-wp CheckUser has confirmed the technical match. It's possible that they're different people despite the technical match (which isn't based solely on IP addresses; CheckUsers also have heard of dynamic IP addresses), but that there's "no any relationship" is... difficult to believe. I don't think we need another CheckUser to confirm the first one's results just because the blocked editor says "no". Declining an unblock request that doesn't do more than that is saving CheckUser time. If they can explain the technical match, they're welcome to request a new review of their block and to give that explanation. Huon (talk) 20:27, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Even if we assumed that there was an ideal “technical match”—say, the Nipponese Dog and Solomon203 edited from the same workstation in a computer club—would this offence worth an indefinite block then? Of course it is reasonable that Huon—as a sysop on the site—has a vote in this process. It is another thing wrong, that such admins who are competent to judge surrendered Solomon203 to a random sysop’s indulgence. Fortunately, an open nature of wiki publicly exposes this regime of hive-minded incompetence at least in some instances. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:05, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

On English Misplaced Pages is difference from other project sites, without consulting a CheckUser for consent to unblock the user account that was in CU blocked, all admins are not allowing to unblock the user account that was in CU blocked, read more from WP:CUBL, the only best option is email to arbitration committee at "arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org" for appealing the requisition, although PlyrStar93 and I also agree that Solomon203 has no any relationship with NDC. SA 13 Bro (talk) 20:05, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I have more interest in improving Wikimedia policy than in wretched metapedianism on the site where I don’t contribute for years and my influence is nearly zero. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 04:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Nick

There is an obnoxious person who stalks me for several days and meddles into my arguments with Commoners and users of Freenode without understanding what is going on. Again Vote, I already asked you to stop posting on my talk page(s). I don’t want to be a party to scrabbles on Misplaced Pages. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 22:28, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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Bomsori

Done. DS (talk) 17:26, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Do you think I'm a vandal?

Incnis, I promise to you that I am NOT a vandal. I promise. 😀😀 If you don't like what I did on Multiplication, then fine, I won't do it again. Again, I promise I'm NOT a vandal.

Warm Christian regards

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Island of stability

Incnis Mrsi, I read your edit summary in which you told me "Don't do it". If it was in regards to phrasing, I see you fixed it already (so thanks for that), though that was in response to a question on the talk page. Could you please clarify what it is exactly that I should not do? ComplexRational (talk) 13:47, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

ComplexRational obviously crapped out both in the article and its talk page. Firstly, a neutron is heavier than proton + electron; this difference enables β⁻ decay. Secondly, there are such things as the binding energy and mass defect – see semi-empirical mass formula for details. The grim irony of the situation is that Graeme Bartlett asked for the “meaning of A” while the notation is featured in {{Nuclear physics}} (which was edited by ComplexRational) and other articles edited by the user as well; yet the answer was failed. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 14:51, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

You still did not answer my initial question of what not to do, and your language is coming across as rude. While I agree that my language was imprecise and the mistake is now corrected, I fail to understand the rest of your response. For starters, that diff on {{Nuclear physics}} is irrelevant to this matter (I added the name of a physicist whose article I created), as are many other of my edits in similar articles. Also, I am aware of the mass difference, binding energy, mass defect, etc., or I would not be editing those articles at all. Please do not generalize because of one small slip; there is nothing for anyone to gain from this. ComplexRational (talk) 15:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

What not to do? Don’t add false statements like “Z and N sum to an isotopic mass A”. It wasn’t a sandbox, talk-page posting, or even an obscure footnote. It happened in a rather prominent spot of an article. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Mistakes happen. Adding false information would be contradictory to the purpose of building an encyclopedia. ComplexRational (talk) 18:22, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

But the user is seemingly as much concerned about adding the word “fuck” to a noticeboard than about false information in articles. A regrettable trend in what Wikipedians perceive as important. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:48, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

What should I do before I put my proposed changes onto time zone articles?

Hi Incnis Mrsi, what should I do before I put my proposed changes onto time zone articles so they do not get reverted because I’m worried that they might get reverted again if I don’t know what to do, thank you. 210.10.211.170 (talk) 07:47, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

\text and Roman non-italic font

Hello:

In a post on user talk:107.242.121.3 you ask

Hello.

\text is translated to <mtext> MathML tag. How can you be sure that its content will always be rendered in Roman? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 07:09, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

In fact, it might be the wrong question; I'd propose instead, "How do you know that its content will always be rendered in the appropriate font for operators?"

This might be splitting hairs, but the reason for the formatting instruction is not to ensure Roman type, but rather to ensure that one does not get italic type: In this context ‘d’ is not a scalar variable, hence should not be italic, but rather whatever is used for formal operators, like Δ , and the standard function names, such as \sin \ln \exp and \arctan .

In fact, the very best option would be to represent the differential as \operatorname{d} rather than \text{d} .

However, typing \operatorname{d} is tedious, and \text{d} is about as short as it can be, and at least at present, the two produce identical results. 107.242.121.3 (talk) 07:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Reports on me.

I want to know what i did to get a report. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhiteStarG7 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect revert

this revert is edit warring. You have been aslked before to engage in a discusison re this issue. You have *not* created consensus for this change. Pls revert by yourself and stay with WT:ELEMENTS talking. -DePiep (talk) 10:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

I don’t pose that my edit reflects present consensus. Consensus is more a process than a state. Thanks for the message. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

So you admit that there is no consensus for your edit. Clear then, we can & will undo your edit. -DePiep (talk) 11:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

August 2019

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The user replaces {{MfD}} with their preferred speedy. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Formal language vs natural language

Hi, Icnis Mrsi! I have been editing some aspects re formal language. I have noticed your editing on some talk pages re the ordinary (or natural) language vs the language of science in dialogue with editor Chjoaygame who seems to have a fascination for ordinary language and some term rather ambiguous from natural language. Therefore I ask to comment on the syntax rules of formal language requiring a finite or infinite set of objects at talk:Quantifier (logic). Thanks!--109.166.134.237 (talk) 13:54, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Square wheel model

Sir, Whats your problem with the square wheel model? Our students finally understood precession when we presented them the figure and the supersimple calculations from a FiP paper. Please do not delete it. It does not make sense to write pages about "good explanations" which cannot be understood, while deleting the only trivial and intuitive explanation. --Alpenmaus (talk) 18:00, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

If Alpenmaus is unable to export what currently is File:Intuitive precession.jpg‎‎ from the drawing program to PNG (if not SVG), then the user unlikely made the drawing themselves (in which case the file description page is a forgery). If Alpenmaus is able to save the drawing as PNG or SVG, then it could be better first to upload the result, and contact me only afterwards. JPEG technical drawings are inappropriate if only because JPEG is impossible to edit without degradation. Moreover, with default quality settings JPEGs just look filthy on a wiki page. Don’t upload filth. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 19:20, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

I say Don’t upload filth is not a helpful contribution. Especially since Alpenmaus appears very cooperative. -DePiep (talk) 19:34, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Sir, what file format would be desired? PNG or SVG? we can provide both. Is there any other professional problem with our contribution, or the only problem is the file format? We are happy to work on both, just we have to delimit the problem. --Alpenmaus (talk) 19:31, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

For a drawing which is entirely (or mostly) vector, SVG is the best (although an image could require some tweaks before use, mostly with text). But if it is raster by its nature, it should be saved as PNG then. Don’t hesitate to upload SVG even if it looks ugly – a correction always can be uploaded over, later. Ask on talk:Precession for eligibility of the “intuitive” explanation; I have no strong opinion but there could be objections by other Wikipedians. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 19:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• JPG is fine. Incnis Mrsi has a personal crusade against it. If you are able to produce other formats, then SVG would be favoured because it's a vector-based format and so encourages editing in the future, such as translating captions.

But we would much rather have a JPG here than nothing.

The "Don’t upload filth." comment is inexcusable, but sadly characteristic of Incnis Mrsi's typical interaction with other editors (Just watch for his imminent reply to me). Andy Dingley (talk) 19:41, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

The statement “JPG is fine” is an obvious baiting. A long-standing consensus of Wikimedia graphicists exists that JPEG is one of the worst choices for technical drawings. Its use in this context may be compared to showing PDF, DjVu, and TIFF on wiki pages. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 06:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Colleagues, Let make peace and amicability. The aim is to help our students, isnt it? Here it is the new file: intuitive_precession.png or intuitive precession.png or with capital I. Unfortunately when I tried to save it from Corel to svg, it didnt work, but saving it to png was successful. I also improved the text. --Alpenmaus (talk) 03:11, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

@Alpenmaus: CorelDraw does export SVG, but Corel Corp. is famous for myriads of bugs in import/export plugins, hence it could be a miracle to obtain an SVG immediately suitable for Wikimedia. Again, don’t hesitate to upload SVG whichever ugly it looks. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 06:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Please note that the above discussion was created by Peter.hantz as a violation of his block. Nigos (talk • Contribs) 23:26, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

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Removed thread on Dual-complex numbers article

Of course not agree with such censorship as . It is Misplaced Pages. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:18, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

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Given https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Gun-type_fission_weapon&action=history&offset=201910131920&limit=8, the complain is disingenuous. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:28, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

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A got a notice from you, saying I was 'socking', over just possibly trivial and fixing the infobox's line correctly.

I got a noticed, saying that I was socking over the Ambazonia page, so I may just only wanted to fixing only the wording on the "secessionist entity" word, due the wording itself has to be sound right for newcomers or couple users like myself to make sense; and also just needed the infobox's lines to be right and not that too separated, to be comparable with the other 'unrecognized nations' or 'nation' infoboxes. Chad The Goatman (talk) 12:35, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

The problem is not about changes in the article, and a small edit war also wouldn’t merit a noticeboard report. The problem is abuse of IP editing: see Special:diff/922637837 for an admin’s comment. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:04, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Fermi-Dirac statistics

You undid a revision of mine with the reasoning "this paragraph is not specifically about electrons, let alone electron conductors, let alone metals". I would counter "Then it is incorrect". The present formulation is "At zero temperature, μ is equal to the Fermi energy plus the potential energy per fermion." This holds only when the Fermi level is not in a band gap. Otherwise, μ is in the middle of the band gap, while Fermi energy plus potential energy is the bottom of the gap. So my revision corrected this error, at the cost of restricting the scope. Feel free to make it correct for the general case of fermions, but in the meantime, I would think it is better correct and narrow than incorrect and broad. Seattle Jörg (talk) 09:02, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

So what? That’s how WP:BRD works. @Seattle Jörg: go to talk:Fermi–Dirac statistics and present your case there, not here. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:05, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

I made an edit that should be okay with both you and me (it does not restrict to the case of electrons in a metal, but to a non-zero density of states). Seattle Jörg (talk) 13:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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The blocking admin, Rschen7754, unilaterally supports those users who are in conflict with me. Insults, threats and baiting directed at me, such as , were not acted upon by any admin. This event can embolden some people to similarly harass (and drive out of the site) more users and unlikely will make en.Misplaced Pages more pleasant. Please, at very least, admonish these users for incivility on their part. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 07:10, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

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