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November 2024

@PadFoot2008 I noticed you havent replied to my comment about Magadha Empire.Please reply so that a consensus be established.Thanks. Edasf (talk) 07:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

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Principality of Patialputra

It seems like, after the collapse of Magadhan Empire Under Kanva dynasty,

Some petty dynasties ruled Magadhan and Patialputra, historians have named this as "Principality of Patialputra", it was independent till the Guptas took over the throne and formed the Restored Magadhan Empire. JingJongPascal (talk) 09:07, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Map of Principality of Patialputra or Magadha
JingJongPascal (talk) 15:38, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
@PadFoot2008 , I have tried to find whether any independent kingdom ruled the Magadhan principality after kanvas.
I haven't been able to find any independent dynasty.
Maybe you know something? I have taken a look into several books and found nothing.
The knowledge of Magadhan rulers between kanva and gupta is very scarce it seems.
Except them being vassals of Kushans, Mitra, Kalinga, I found nothing. JingJongPascal (talk) 11:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@JingJongPascal, which is sadly the problem in this case. I myself sought to create such an article, but we unfortunately lack much sources on it. However, an article could still be created out of whatever information we have and we could include Sri Gupta and Ghatotkach in it as well. PadFoot (talk) 11:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@PadFoot2008 I was about to mention Sri Gupta and Ghatotkach! But are we sure that their "cheifdom" was native or atleast primarily the Principality of Patialputra?
Anyways, I have made a draft where I have added some basic things you could help and check it out.
Principality of Pataliputra JingJongPascal (talk) 11:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
They did rule from Pataliputra. PadFoot (talk) 11:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
I meant, were they native to the Pataliputra? JingJongPascal (talk) 11:48, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
The origin of the Guptas is uncertain, but a good section of scholars consider them to be natives of Magadha. PadFoot (talk) 11:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
i see, although I don't think we should publish the article just out of the things we have right now.
I have created a draft, but I will try to find more sources because the article will probably not be accepted otherwise.
There was already so much criticism about Magadhan Empire and Second Magadhan Empire , even though they have alot of sources. I will look into more books JingJongPascal (talk) 12:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@JingJongPascal, could you please remove the Gupta mentions from the Magadhan Empire article, please? The article should not list two different polities with a 300-year gap between them as a single entity. Even scholars don't consider them a single and instead call the Guptas, the Second Magadhan Empire. PadFoot (talk) 12:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
I haven't included them? Infact I also made the "300 gap" argument against Nxcrypto and others who wanted to combine.
But yes I will remove them. JingJongPascal (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Anyways , I have removed all mentions JingJongPascal (talk) 12:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I know you made the argument against including them. Only Nxcrypto wanted to include them. PadFoot (talk) 12:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@PadFoot2008
https://archive.org/details/dli.csl.5896/page/n35/mode/2up?q=kanva&view=theater
Page no. 36
You were correct.
There is absolutely no record between kanvas and guptas. Absolutely none JingJongPascal (talk) 14:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@PadFoot2008
Principality of Pataliputra i have created the article, feel free to contribute JingJongPascal (talk) 16:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
This is the point provided by Regents for the deletion of this article
This article appears to be a POV fork of that article, primarily designed to push the idea of a continuity between mythology (the Magadha kingdoms described in Hindu mythological texts) and history (the Mauryas) - RegentsPark
What?? I can understand the article may not be most notable and a Stub, but what are these points? JingJongPascal (talk) 13:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
  • @JingJongPascal, Upon further research, it appears to me that Magadha came under the rule of various neighbouring kingdoms and empires after the fall of the Kanvas and it didn't exist as an independent entity then. It appears that it only came back to existence as an independent entity in 240 AD under the rule of Sri Gupta. So, the "principality of Pataliputra" existed from 240 AD to 320 AD, before which it formed a part of neighbouring kingdoms. PadFoot (talk) 14:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
    It was under rule of Mitras and Kalinga during 20 BCs , after that it most probably existed as a independent kingdom under influence or vassal of other kingdoms. JingJongPascal (talk) 14:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
    There is no source for its existence as an independent kingdom. PadFoot (talk) 15:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
    Then which kingdom ruled it?
    Only Kalinga and Mitra dynasty are confirmed ones. After that there is a empty history of 200 years without knowing who ruled the region. JingJongPascal (talk) 15:59, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Warning messages

Please dont send warning messages when I didnt did an edit war.At first I reverted your removal because you provided inaccurate edit summary then on MMaurya Empire Rawn did a mass revert so I reverted him it was me only who reverted my map per talk page please clear before sending someone warning msg. Edasf«Talk» 08:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

It's a necessity per WP:3RR. PadFoot (talk) 08:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
No its not a formality be performed for formalities shake. Edasf«Talk» 08:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Magdhan Empire

Hi @PadFoot2008 I was going through the Magdhan Empire page created by you, and at that time I saw that it was nominated for deletion, but before voting, I want to ask you as you have created the article. How would you explain Maurya Empire and Magdhan Empire, and prior to that, Nanda Empire, basically one state with two different names and articles? What I think is that Maurya and Nanda should be changed to dynasties instead of empires.

Regards Rawn3012 (talk) 14:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I would agree with you. Nandas and Mauryas were dynasties of the Magadhan Empire. There is currently an ongoing RM at Nanda Empire to move to Nanda dynasty, if you'd like to participate. PadFoot (talk) 14:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Foreign_relations_of_the_Magadhan_Empire JingJongPascal (talk) 15:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@JingJongPascal, I apologise but per the Misplaced Pages policy WP:CANVASSING, you are not allowed to ping other editors in AfDs. I cannot participate now, or else you shall be accused of canvassing and my vote will be discounted. PadFoot (talk) 15:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Looks like, there has been a favourable deletion on your Magadhan Empire article, maybe try putting in some more sources? JingJongPascal (talk) 14:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
this book is entirely based on "Empire of Magadha" and uses the term to describe Nandas and Mauryas. Could be helpful in the article's deletion. JingJongPascal (talk) 14:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
@PadFoot2008 JingJongPascal (talk) 14:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Empire To Dynasty

I have changed From Haryankas to Shungas to a dynastic appearance by using "Infobox dynasty",

But now for Maurya, I am sure everyone in the world will oppose that, and considering there is already a war going on in maurya article for the map, do you think it is worth it? Or atleast worth trying? JingJongPascal (talk) 13:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@JingJongPascal, I think you should restore Infobox country, it presents a better appearance. Maps are pretty important in these cases. See Qing dynasty or Ming dynasty for example. PadFoot (talk) 14:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Except for Ming and Qing, they dont have a "country" article JingJongPascal (talk) 14:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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Kind regards Ixudi (talk) 17:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I've decided to support your disambiguation, and anyways you were the one making bold undiscussed moves, I was reverting them. PadFoot (talk) 17:16, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Magadha Gupta

Would like your help here, whether Guptas were rulers of Magadha or not.

List of wars involving Magadha - Topic Page JingJongPascal (talk) 17:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

He has also removed all mentions of Magadha from Gupta Empire article page, because he thinks they did not rule from Magadha JingJongPascal (talk) 06:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

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Have a look

Take a look at this. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Could be better, I've done some work. PadFoot (talk) 13:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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