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A source to put for any one at the oscars

Well good luck editing, now always try to get a link to the Oscars official site. (IE here is a page I made last night for a visual effects artist of ET): Kenneth F. Smith I have links to the Oscar site as you see. I have made tons of new people the past few weeks, well good luck and have fun! Wgolf (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

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Please work to develop consensus for BLP info in articles

Hi Samp4ngeles. Please work on the article talk pages to gain the required consensus for inclusion of biographical information within Science of Identity Foundation and Mike Gabbard.

Thank you. --Ronz (talk) 15:48, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Again, you need to stop edit-warring and work collaboratively with others on the article talk pages to find consensus. Taking disputed material from one article and incorporating it into another is not a good approach. --Ronz (talk) 02:32, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Science of Identity Foundation

Do you think you could respond on the talk page before reverting. Your source is supposed to support the first sentence of the article which reads, "The Science of Identity Foundation (SIF) is a socially conservative religious organization based in Hawaii, United States, founded by Kris "Chris" Butler (also known as Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa, Siddha Swarup Ananda Goswami, Paramahamsa, and Sai Young) in 1977." Nothing in the 1970 article supports any of those assertions, nor could it since events cannot be recorded before they happen. TFD (talk) 04:57, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

That specific source simply references names used by Butler, and it is significant given that it was the first RS mention his following. Most of the other items in the first sentence were there before the addition of this source but can be supported by the addition of other, more recent RS. I am happy to add those within the next day, if others don't add them first.TFD (talk) 05:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

None of the sources you provide say who the founders of the foundation were. Is there any particular reason you are interested in this group? If you are a member, you should report a COI. TFD (talk) 05:57, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

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Tulsi Gabbard

Do you think you could respond to the comments of other editors about your edits on the talk page? TFD (talk) 04:49, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Can you please explain why you would use a source, "SARS travel warning to Toronto lifted", that does not mention Hawaii or Gabbard for a claim that Gabbard supported quarantine of patients with symptoms of SARS in Hawaii? TFD (talk) 13:48, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for noting that. Will correct the link. It should be ("State remains on watch for potential SARS cases").Samp4ngeles (talk) 02:21, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Edit-warring

Note that this article is under arbitration sanctions and has a one revert rule. Please revert your edit or I will report your actions to arbitration enforcement. I note you have already been warned for edit-warring.

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So, let me get this straight. You're asking that I reverse an edit based on your factually-incorrect reasoning that contradicts a source you cited? Please. Go read your source again before wasting anyone's time with this.Samp4ngeles (talk) 03:19, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

I reported your edit-warring to the 3RR noticeboard and you may reply here. TFD (talk) 04:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

I posted a reply to your comments on the talk page. You need to distinguish between (1) isolation of persons with symptoms of SARS and (2) quarantine of contacts of personas with symptoms of SARS who have no symptoms themselves. Both Gabbard and the CDC supported the first but not the second. Quarantine was however carried out in Toronto, where the disease was more widespread. It could be that the source of your confusion is that the Hawaii Advertiser article incorrectly uses the term quarantine, when it is referring to isolation. Isolation refers to the segregation of individuals with symptoms, while quarantine refers to the segregation of persons without symptoms but have had contact with persons with symptoms. TFD (talk) 12:30, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Whatever else, if you are going to continue to reinstate this change, please join the discussion on the article talk page. Making changes and then failing to discuss them when there is dispute is likely to be seen as WP:Disruptive editing, and you've made the change often enough that you can just brush it off. Nil Einne (talk) 13:43, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Um sorry I meant 'can't just brush it off' Nil Einne (talk) 15:02, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Edit-warring again

I notice that you have performed two reverts on the article Tulsi Gabbard in a 24 hour period, which is in violation of 1RR. Please self-revert or I will report this matter to arbitration enforcement. TFD (talk) 01:02, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I think you need to count it again. It was only one revert, of the @Xenagoras revert. If you notice, I went on to explain the revert in further by creating a new topic in Talk. That should eliminate any confusion. This is not "edit warring," but I would perhaps agree with you if I were to revert it a second time. Samp4ngeles (talk) 01:56, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Let me do the counting for you. This was your first removal of the content in question: and that was the second removal of the same content one hour later: . You also claimed WP:OWNERSHIP of that content. Afterwards you "justified" your edits via original research that contained damaging the reputation of the WP:BLP's subject . And you disputed the reliability of apparently good sources . Xenagoras (talk) 03:22, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Samp4ngeles, I have filed a report at AE and you may reply here. TFD (talk) 03:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

TFD Man, you really seem to have a personal vendetta against me. Feel free to read my explanation and thinking above. Feel free to read the talk page on the article, which is productive and seems to reach the conclusion that the word shouldn't be in the article (although I note that @Xenagoras has not joined the conversation there). This single revert was above-board, constructive, and ultimately collaborative and did not violate 1RR or any other policy. It was not "edit warring," and it makes it a better article. Samp4ngeles (talk) 04:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello Sam4ngeles. Your counting of reverts makes no sense. Your first removal of 'multi-religious' on 19 December is a revert of this edit on the same day by Humanengr. That makes one revert. You've already admitted that your second edit is a revert. That makes two reverts in 24 hours. Do you really want to tie your future here to such an easily-refuted argument? If you don't intend to follow our policies, Misplaced Pages may not be the place for you. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 05:15, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I reverted it. Samp4ngeles (talk) 06:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I collapsed the AE discussion thread. TFD (talk) 13:20, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

TFD's collapse of the AE discussion thread noted you had "self-reverted". However, your self-revert was only partial as it did not remove the hidden comment "" you inserted here. As Xenagoras noted above, that insertion violated WP:OWNERSHIP. It also violated WP:HIDDEN. Humanengr (talk) 01:17, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Odd response; inappropriate cite for BLP

@Samp4ngeles, I responded to you on Tulsi Gabbard talk regarding your odd response to TFD.

I removed your inappropriate WP:HIDDEN- and WP:OWNERSHIP-violating hidden comment, referenced in your Talk section [https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&type=revision&diff=931861488&oldid=931755025 above].

In reviewing your edits, I see that the 2nd cite you inserted here in Tulsi Gabbard#Early career does not mention Tulsi and does not belong in her BLP. This is not an article about ATMV. Inclusion of that cite violates WP:COATRACK and should be removed. Humanengr (talk) 21:04, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

BLP violation

@Samp4ngeles:, Repeating what I said on Talk:Tulsi Gabbard: The 2001 Asato citation violates WP:BLP on several counts not least of which is the fact that raises the salacious innuendo of an ethics violation by Carol Gabbard, when Carol Gabbard was, in fact, cleared. Either you remove it or I am reporting you for this tendentious behavior. The form of the Science of Identity material has not been finalized. Discuss there. Humanengr (talk) 03:17, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Done!Samp4ngeles (talk) 14:47, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring Tulsi Gabbard again

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Please remove your language implying Gabbard is likely lying

Please do not add defamatory content to Misplaced Pages, as you did to Talk:Tulsi Gabbard, especially if it involves living persons. Thank you.

I have asked you twice to remove your language implying that Gabbard is likely lying when she says she grew up in a multi-religious household. Such content is a violation of WP:BLP whether in the article or on the Talk page. Humanengr (talk) 03:35, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

What language specifically? I'm having trouble finding anything that's remotely defamatory (e.g., no false statements of fact, nothing that would harm Gabbard's reputation, and nothing that is malicious). But do point out the language if you're concerned by something. Samp4ngeles (talk) 03:50, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

The language concerns Gabbard's statement that she "grew up in a multicultural, multi-religious household", where you wrote: "there is very much 'reasonable doubt as to its authenticity.' Politicians make claims like this all the time for political purposes; for Gabbard, crafting a message in 2012 around growing up in a multi-religious household with a Hindu bent would very much have been self-serving." Humanengr (talk) 04:12, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. I edited the sentence to get the point across more clearly. Hopefully it addresses your concerns as well. Samp4ngeles (talk) 04:35, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Further edit-warring at Tulsi Gabbard

I didn't realize you've been edit-warring over the "multireligious" and related details . Please self-revert. --Ronz (talk) 01:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Took it off for now...Samp4ngeles (talk) 02:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Ronz Just for info, this is longstanding content that Samp4 is trying to remove. Here's how the section looked on December 25th, 2015 before any of us got involved. 🌿 SashiRolls 03:11, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

And here's the version from right before the multicultural, multireligious language was inserted immediately after the non-RS rediff interview: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&oldid=521947988#cite_note-hindu-1 . Just because content was there seven years ago doesn't mean it should be on the page today. Samp4ngeles (talk) 05:41, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

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@Jonathunder What's your issue with it? Samp4ngeles (talk) 23:51, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

You aren't exactly being subtle about pointing out connections to the the S.I.F. Stop with the overlinking already. Jonathunder (talk) 03:40, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I never thought to associate WP:OVERLINK with Talk pages... Samp4ngeles (talk) 03:47, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Please never attempt anything like this again. You're very lucky you haven't been blocked or banned at this point. --Ronz (talk) 18:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Misplaced Pages, as you did at Elliot Page. I agree with User:Firefangledfeathers that your recent edits, though each sounding reasonable described in edit-summaries, have an overall effect of a substantive change of tone/point of view in relation to Page's gender. This as part of your recent edit history puts you on the line of being sanctioned under the contentious-topics policy. DMacks (talk) 07:55, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@DMacks: They're still at it; I just reverted this edit at Chelsea Manning. Funcrunch (talk) 18:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the special attention, but at what? My edit was good and eliminated confusion, which your reversion reintroduces. Samp4ngeles (talk) 18:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Have you actually read MOS:GENDERID? It seems unlikely you have since many of your recent edits are not in compliance. I strongly suggest you read it carefully and make sure you understand it before you make any further edits that may relate to it, since you seem to be on a speedrun to at least a topic ban, if not a fully block. Nil Einne (talk) 05:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Too late I guess, but I just wanted to add that beyond MOS:GENDERID, most of the subjects you are editing are extremely high profile examples such that there is likely a lot of previous discussion on the talk page. I strongly suggest you also read these discussions before you return to editing the area when your block ends. Nil Einne (talk) 06:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

To enforce an arbitration decision, and for edit-warring across multiple biographical articles., you have been blocked from editing Misplaced Pages for a period of 31 hours. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the ] or ]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.

DMacks (talk) 05:52, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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