User talk:Smartse - Misplaced Pages

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Draft:Janusirsasana

Hi @Smartse: Howdy. I sent this article to draft because it had two references which looked like spam links, basically linking to yoga site which is selling product. The editor states that Siddhasana and Virabhadrasana which are GA articles, and both use "yoga journal", which is a commercial site, journal. Its looks and reads like a spam link, and is seemingly selling product. It looks like a spam but he says its a reliable source. In the conversation the editor states they has been using the sites for a while. The GA reviewer on Siddhasana was blocked. is another commericial link to a shopping site. I think there is something dodgy here. scope_creep 19:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Greetings traveler on your journey through the realms of thought.

Kinda odd input here but I just wanted to express appreciation for all of your hard work on wikipeida. People like you are what make this phenomenon function appropriately.

Good luck on that relentless quest for effectively navigating this overwhelming mass of ever-increasing misinformation within our beloved interconnected global consciousness. But I digress, thanks again.

I hope the future continues to find you well. Taktixal (talk) 19:39, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment on Bogner

I would agree that this was not the most scintillating detail, but it's a short article on, frankly, a mostly trivial person. In the source, he discusses the curriculum, and while it is not clear whether he had a hand in designing that, he appears to be more involved than just showing up for the announcement. I have no strong feelings about this, but I don't see how it is a negative. BD2412 T 18:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

@BD2412: This would be better discussed on the talk page wouldn't it? Now that we've started though, my reading of the fairly low-quality source (essentially a mouthpiece for the Indonesian government) is that the article is about GISAIDs activities, rather than Bogner and he was representing them. It's already included in the GISAID article, so I don't see why such a run-of-the-mill activity merits inclusion in his biography too. And yes, I agree that he's not super notable, but that isn't a reason to try to plump up the article with trivial details. SmartSE (talk) 18:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

If you have concerns about the reliability of the source, I would suggest taking that up at WP:RSN. It is used as a source in hundreds of articles. If you want to remove all of the trivial details from this subject's article, there will be no article left. BD2412 T 18:58, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Concerns

Dear Smartse, I understand your reasons for removing the ANI post. Where should I forward the evidence privately? Vickyfoxx (talk) 14:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

@Vickyfoxx: I am forwarding it to WP:ARBCOM who are best placed to deal with it. SmartSE (talk) 14:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I apologize if I posted in the wrong place and used a new account, but it's because I fear retaliation and harassment from these kinds of users. I myself don't want to out or harass anyone. I hope the Misplaced Pages community can look into this matter. Vickyfoxx (talk) 14:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Unblock question

please no one answers me I ask you how it is possible to be unblocked for Blocked Sochkpuppet Gaetano Minale ...... it's been seven years now, Thank you Gaetano Minale — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.12.180.196 (talk) 15:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

https://it.wikipedia.org/Categoria:Misplaced Pages:Cloni_sospetti_di_GAETANO_MINALE?fbclid=IwAR2m-zLK-9tRw7uUrLSTxYW4Bh2Lj1dK2IOEYUUOHwXToXkiB26KCtgrXcM 79.12.180.196 (talk) 15:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Gaetano Minale

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Cleaning up Geoffrey von Maltzahn article

Hello, Smartse. I'm trying to clean up the Geoffrey von Maltzahn article, as he's a partner at the firm I work for, Flagship Pioneering. Given my COI, I won't be editing the article directly and will instead make requests for editors to review.

I see that you added the flag to the article (alerting readers that it "may require cleanup to comply with Misplaced Pages's content policies") back in June 2023. As such, I'm hoping you can help me with my first request, which I've posted on the article's Talk page. I'm proposing that the Awards and recognitions section be removed entirely. To me, this feels like the most potentially promotional part of the page and a good place to start.

I would be grateful if you could review the request and let me know what you think. Many thanks. Lindy D at Flagship (talk) 01:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello again, Smartse. I've posted another request on the article's Talk page that I'm hoping you can look at. I took a stab at trimming down the Career section by removing superfluous details and focusing only on the most notable moments in his career, particularly those that have received ample media coverage. Please let me know what you think. Lindy D at Flagship (talk) 19:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Blmmta

Hi Smartse, nice work on Rotmans. If you still remember you blocked Blmmta (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) as they were accepting paid jobs on Upwork but were not disclosing them on Misplaced Pages. Unfortunately, they were wrongly tagged as a sock of User:Amansharma111. It is very clear now that Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Sjutt and User:Blmmta were operated by the same person - could you please revisit their Upwork profile (or I can provide again) so you can easily verify this? It is important to rename Sjutt SPI as Blmmta, so we can have 30 October 2023 as the cutt-off date for speedy deletion. There is a lot of spam to clean up. Thanks for your efforts. 87.200.126.222 (talk) 17:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@87.200.126.222: Sure email me at <username>wiki@gmail.com and I will take a look. SmartSE (talk) 18:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

COI at Bloomberg Philanthropies?

I noticed that some years ago, you added a COI tag to Bloomberg Philanthropies, which remains there to this day, with the edit summary, "coi - written entirely by single purpose accounts". I assume you refer there to User:MartinVanBurenNo8, User:Home3879, and perhaps the still-active User:Draper765. I am contemplating pursuing the COI issue, and wanted to know your thoughts, and specifically if these edits were the ones you had in mind. While I don't know that it is fair to say that it was entirely written by SPAs, I would agree that the initial formation of this article raises questions. BD2412 T 13:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

@BD2412: That was perhaps a little over exaggerated of me, but the stats confirm that the majority of the content was written by close-to-SPAs. JoMarch868 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is another account and Katherine Oliver (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is also in a horrendously promotional state and another SPA did initially disclose a COI: . Blackbird68 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is another account with a singular interest in Bloomberg-related articles but who denied a COI. SmartSE (talk) 14:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, it's pretty blatant. I'm surprised the Philanthropies article is so choppily written, for all of that effort. BD2412 T 15:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Vizhinjam International Seaport Thiruvananthapuram

Subject: Request for Reinstatement of Removed Content with Clarifications

Dear Editor,

Regarding to your recent edits on the vizhinjam port page, where you removed certain details related to nearby road and rail information, as well as the shipping distance details.

Firstly, I'd like to clarify that the nearby road and rail information that was provided is factual and verifiable. According to Misplaced Pages's guidelines, not every statement requires a direct citation, especially when the information pertains to basic, non-controversial facts, such as geographic data that can be easily verified through common knowledge or public resources. Therefore, the removal of this information may not have been necessary.

Secondly, regarding the shipping distance details that were also removed, this information was based on calculations provided by the Marine Traffic calculator, a widely used tool in the maritime industry. While I understand the need for reliable sourcing, I believe a more appropriate approach would have been to request a source for this information rather than removing it entirely. Misplaced Pages encourages editors to improve content rather than delete it when the information is potentially useful and verifiable.

I would appreciate it if you put tags for giving editors time to provide the necessary information rather than just removing the whole contented. :If you have any question let me know.

Thank you for your time

Best regards,

Hobby Writerae Hobbywriterae (talk) 14:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Hobbywriterae: I am afraid you are mistaken if you think that information does not require a citation - everything has to be verifiable from published sources. Unless sources have made a comparison about this and other ports, then our article should not either. The onus is on editors adding information to provide reliable sources and if they are absent anyone else is free to remove content. Please do not revert edits without providing a policy-based reason for doing so. The article is still a complete mess and needs substantial clean up to make it compliant with core principles of Misplaced Pages. SmartSE (talk) 10:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Recreating a previously deleted page

Hello Smartse, you deleted a page (Osagie Elliot) almost a year and some months, however overtime the subject has done so much more that is enough to establish notability, he was nominated for Emmy award for his role in developing and executive producing a revolutionary Metaverse concert experience, so I wanted to inform you, though there are more sources established since the last deletion, Thank you Vector diehard (talk) 12:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

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Minale

I don't suppose my view of the prospects of Draft:Gaetano Minale becoming a tolerable article is greatly different from yours; but I don't think that "Having been promoted so persistently at it:WP as to have been deleted and salted there" (or similar) is a valid deletion rationale here at en:WP. However, if you have evidence for UPE toward this draft, that's a different matter. -- Hoary (talk) 10:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Request for draft restoration of Andrew Osei-Karmen and CouponBirdss deleted under G11

Hello SmartSE,

I acknowledge that Andrew Osei-Karmen and CouponBirds was deleted under G11 (unambiguous promotion or advertising). I would like to request that the article be restored so I can rewrite it in accordance with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and remove any promotional content.

This would allow me to improve the content without it being promotional and to meet Misplaced Pages's standards for neutrality and notability.

Thank you for your time and understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdatpal (talk • contribs) 05:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Smartse, please block this editor who is obviously a WP:COI, all the articles he has worked on have a promotional purpose, the same has been indetified in the Spanish version where he repeatedly tries to remove the deletion tag and keep an article he was paid for. Thanks! Dmitry Bobriakov (talk) 10:09, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Smartse,

Do you have any familiarity with this editor, Dmitry Bobriakov? They are a new editor, having made only 40 edits, but they state they are part of a COI patrol which I've never heard of. I see they quickly responded here and wondered what your opinion might be. Liz 01:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: Sorry about the delay. I don't have much familiarity with them other than seeing their various posts. From what they've said, I think they were finding the jobs on Upwork. Maybe I'm too cynical, but it is most likely they are a rival UPE which is how they know which articles are affected. with the cat and mouse of UPE, now most adverts there for articles are private, so only those who bid for them would know which articles are affected. That said I haven't looked into these articles on there, so they could also be public. SmartSE (talk) 21:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry to read such comments when you don't really know the reality. Everything I label is publicly available, and I spend a lot of time analyzing everything to identify all these irregularities. Once what I'm doing is not useful, you can tell me directly, instead of blaming me for things that don't concern me. Dmitry Bobriakov (talk) 18:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Dmitry Bobriakov: Like I said I was being cynical, but that is definitely a pattern that myself and others have noted when new users appear and jump straight into reporting paid editing. That wasn't meant to offend you and I apologise if it did. I don't care who anyone here is so long as spam is being removed! Happy hunting! SmartSE (talk) 23:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@Smartse It only remains for me to prove to you throughout my editing that you have got the wrong impression!

I'm a new editor at the number of edits, but as mentioned I used to send messages to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org, but because the volunteers there are extremely busy I decided to do it directly (but before doing so I followed all the examples and familiarized myself with how to correctly do the whole process). Thank you, certainly no offended. I hope to connect us to other new joint works! Dmitry Bobriakov (talk) 16:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

@Smartse Once you're available you can review this article Nava Mau, it has been updated by an editor who apparently hasn't disclosed that possible to be paid. And his talk page indicates that he has in the past edited articles for which he was paid. Thanks! Dmitry Bobriakov (talk) 16:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

October 2024

Hi. I see that you reverted some of my edits, because they were a "BLP vio". I apologise for the inconvenience. I reverted my incorrect edits. But there's plenty of times when I edit Misplaced Pages, that I just have no idea what I'm doing. It's really important when you're editing Misplaced Pages, make sure what you're doing. Electrou (formerly Susbush) (talk) 11:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for edit warring. Electrou (formerly Susbush) (talk) 12:47, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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Mark Kotter / Bit.bio

Hi, I see you've recently been active at the article for Mark Kotter.

I wonder if there's any chance of you taking any admin action against the promo-only/COI/UPE/SPA user who created that article and the one for Kotter's company Bit.bio?

The user's history of disruptive editing and UPE is clear from their userpage and the connected thread at COIN, here .

I'd be grateful for your thoughts on the present situation.

Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 19:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@Axad12: I'd seen the COIN thread but hadn't seen the offwiki evidence until I did a little research of my own. I see what you mean now and the various explanations they've provided appear to be lies. I'll block the account and keep an eye on the articles. The IPs should be autoblocked. SmartSE (talk) 20:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks for this, much appreciated.

It's sad that someone would repeatedly attempt to gaslight others when the promotion was so obvious and the nature of their UPE so easily established.

Best wishes and thanks again for your swift action, Axad12 (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Following recent goings on at the user's talk page, can I suggest that talk page action be revoked?

Regards, Axad12 (talk) 22:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

In addition to the very uncivil post-block behaviour from the user (involving many aspersions against myself), the talk page access has also been used post-block in an attempt to collaborate with an unblocked user, here .

Just a sample of the barrage of uncivil comments:

Your message reeks of arrogance, ignorance

your "evidence" is laughable

you're just flinging baseless accusations

It's easy to make vague allegations, but hard to stand up to scrutiny when you're put on the spot, isn't it?

Misplaced Pages's policies aren't designed to be weaponized by people like you who clearly have an agenda

it's incredible how quickly people like you jump to conclusions

you clearly don't understand Misplaced Pages’s principles of fairness and due process. Do better.

It's ironic how you claim to be fighting against promotional abuse

Etc., etc. Clearly this is a user who is primarily using their talk page access to attack me rather than making a serious attempt to remove a block. Axad12 (talk) 04:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@Axad12: I don't think that's bad enough to revoke talk page access. I'd suggest that you just ignore it but I will keep an eye on it. SmartSE (talk) 08:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I've been called far worse on Misplaced Pages. Far, far worse and it is all like water off a duck's back.

Best wishes, Axad12 (talk) 08:43, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:COI

The COI template's documentation includes (highlighting per original):

Like the other neutrality-related tags, if you place this tag, you should promptly start a discussion on the article's talk page to explain what is non-neutral about the article. If you do not start a discussion, any editor will be justified in removing the tag without warning...

Simply positing a link to a COIN entry on the talk page does not meet that requirement.

In any case, the template on Mark Kotter is redundant to the more specific UPE template,Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:26, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Citations added

I have added citations to high-yielding variety. (Just for your information; thanks for telling me!) 122.176.122.147 (talk) 04:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Request for assistance at COIN

Hi, I wonder if you might be able to assist with the following thread at COIN . An IP user who has previously claimed to be the current Isle of Man Minister for Education, Sport and Culture (which includes tourism) has been regularly editing articles on museums and heritage railways on the Isle of Man, sometimes in a highly promotional way. They also seem to have a sideline in vandalism to (non Isle of Man related) articles. Under normal circumstances the user would, I think, be blocked - but given that it's an IP I wonder what you think would be an appropriate way forwards? Axad12 (talk) 14:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

@Axad12: Commented there. SmartSE (talk) 16:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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Merge discussion at Winter fuel payment abolition backlash

Hallo, although you replied to a comment at Talk:Winter fuel payment abolition backlash#Merge proposal you didn't make an explicit comment for or against the merge. It would help clairfy the consensus if you could do so. I'm thinking of listing this at Misplaced Pages:Closure requests#Other types of closing requests to get it settled. PamD 09:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

@PamD: Thanks for the reminder! SmartSE (talk) 09:46, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025

Hello Smartse , warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!.

scope_creep 13:19, 24 December 2024 (UTC)