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=== October 26 === === October 26 ===
*] (and redir ] - prime use for See also section and categories. -- ] ] 20:05, 2004 Oct 26 (UTC)
**'''Keep''' ], its a useful navbox, there is ''no'' reason to delete navboxes. ]—]]] 08:55, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)
**Delete - this is nothing but a vanity box. ] 23:52, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
**convert to footer. --]] 05:57, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC);
*** I'm going to ask Jiang to clarify their vote here. Can't tell if this is keep and change template, or delete and replace with a footer. -- ] ] 15:55, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)
**'''Keep''' useful navbox. However, delete MediaWiki:MintyPython. —] 06:43, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

*] (and redir ] - obscure, unused, and redundant with ]. -- ] ] 20:05, 2004 Oct 26 (UTC) *] (and redir ] - obscure, unused, and redundant with ]. -- ] ] 20:05, 2004 Oct 26 (UTC)
**Keep. ] 23:52, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC) **Keep. ] 23:52, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
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**if it's not used then delete--]] 06:02, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC) **if it's not used then delete--]] 06:02, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
**Keep. Quite useful. - ] 15:47, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC) **Keep. Quite useful. - ] 15:47, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
*** ] shows it is not useful (being used). It's not even listed on the ] pages. -- ] ] 15:59, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)




=== November 5 === === November 5 ===

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October 26

  • Template:MontyPython (and redir MediaWiki:MontyPython - prime use for See also section and categories. -- Netoholic @ 20:05, 2004 Oct 26 (UTC)
    • Keep Template:MontyPython, its a useful navbox, there is no reason to delete navboxes. —siroχo 08:55, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete - this is nothing but a vanity box. Snowspinner 23:52, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
    • convert to footer. --Jiang 05:57, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC);
      • I'm going to ask Jiang to clarify their vote here. Can't tell if this is keep and change template, or delete and replace with a footer. -- Netoholic @ 15:55, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)
    • Keep useful navbox. However, delete MediaWiki:MintyPython. —AlanBarrett 06:43, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

November 5

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Reasons for tag:
The tag was created as NPOVNPOV. I modified and renamed it to deflect dispute into collaboration. It reflects a very pragmatic approach and reorients debate to the article with a strong request to the effect "now you've both had your say, agree where you stand by choosing a better tag between you". It is quite likely to work, because theres a real difference between removing or changing a tag someone else put there which you disagree with (edit/revert war) and adding a tag to say its disputed (no edit/revert war). Right now articles end up as "totallydisputed" being the one thing that's agreed on beyond which you cant go. Fewer edit wars = more focus on article. Yes they shouldnt get that way but we all know huge numbers at any time do. This might just be the way to seriously reduce that and ebncourage article collaborators to compromise and talk instead of lock it up while they squabble. Please see more specific notes on talk page. FT2 23:31, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. The fact that someone put a dispute tag on an article is fairly good evidence of a dispute, no? Snowspinner 19:39, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)
It can (and regularly has) also lead to article status being seriously misrepresented as regards the actual debate. And also sometimes it has ended up with the article PROT or VPROT in that state for a long time, locked and misrepresented. FT2 01:08, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)
    • Unsure This template disputes the original dispute; that is, disagrees that the article is actually in dispute. e.g. non-involved party applying a dispute when a talk page discussion gets lively, but when none of the involved parties have called the article in dispute. OTOH, if it is not in use... Amgine (added siggy)
    • Keep (Logically it wont be in use till its been round a while) It is highly non-trivial to be able to say "the above tag is disputed". It's useful and it serves a genuine purpose. The circumstances Amgine mentions are one example. Tags do get disputed and whatever should happen, that's the reality. There's a real benefit to having a way to say "I am leaving that tag for now but I do disagree" in order to avoid an edit war. FT2 23:31, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Confusing and unnecessary. ] 22:08, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep In lieu of responsibility to the community and the accuracy of our work, some individuals will use tags as a means of silencing or derailing information. Unless I am missing something, this circumstance is not well addressed by other means. As the topic's importance increases, the likelihood of this mendacious behavior occuring increases. -- RyanFreisling @ 23:28, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. "Not in use" is not a reason to delete; "seems extremely limited" is just your own POV and not true. It's quite a useful template, and I'd even go so far it's just as necessary to have this one as it is to have templates for NPOV disputes etc. -- Schnee 23:32, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep - POV disputes often (usually?) involve an argument over whether there's any POV issue at all. --Whosyourjudas (talk) 23:39, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Although I'm not completly convinced by its usefulness, I don't see a reason to delete the template. Let's wait a bit and see if it will be useful. --Conti|✉ 23:43, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

November 14

  • Template:ConstellationList is too large to make it useful as a template, at least without some sort of organization within the template. (Now it is just an alphabetical list.) Josh 16:53, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete and Convert to Category. Some are alrady in Category:Constellations; put all of them there. --Whosyourjudas (talk) 23:35, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. It is useful and unobtrusive on the articles. Categories are useful but not a replacement for everything. —Mike 04:27, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
  • Template:Protectedwho - I have strong feelings against a template like this. I feel like it's existence will only foster more ill-will during an edit dispute. Disputes are a problem for the community - listing out the specific "combatents" seems petty. -- Netoholic @ 18:28, 2004 Nov 14 (UTC)
    • Agree with the above, delete, and keep the personalities on the talk page FT2 18:45, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete: agree with Netoholic. Also violates Misplaced Pages:Avoid self-reference even more; readers don't care who is arguing. --Whosyourjudas (talk) 23:36, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete: for reasons given by Netoholic and Whosyourjudas -- Chris j wood 00:46, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Pointing fingers will just make such problems worse. Josh 03:51, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

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November 19

  • Keep Rubbish it's very usefull, pubs are and important part of the social fabric of the UK. Their importance needs to be documented both indivdually and as a group.--Jirate 14:09, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)

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