Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester

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Arms of De Quincy: *Gules, seven mascles or 3,3,1*, adopted at the start of the age of heraldry, *circa* 1200–1215.

Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester (c. 1155 – 3 November 1219) was one of the leaders of the baronial rebellion against John, King of England, and a major figure in both the kingdoms of Scotland and England in the decades around the turn of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.

Scottish Upbringing

Although he was an Anglo-Norman, Saer de Quincy's father, Robert de Quincy, had married and held important lordships in the Scottish kingdom of his cousin King William the Lion. His mother, Orabilis, was the heiress of the lordship of Leuchars and through her husband Robert became lord over lands in Fife, Perth and Lothian (see below).

Saer's own rise to prominence in England came partly through his marriage to Margaret, the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester. Earl Robert died in 1204, and left Margaret as co-heiress to the vast earldom along with her elder sister. The estate was split in half, and after the final division was ratified in 1207, de Quincy was made Earl of Winchester.

Earl of Winchester

Seal of Robert Fitzwalter (d.1235). So close was the alliance between both men that the seal shows the arms of Saer de Quincy (*seven mascles 3,3,1*) on a separate shield before FitzWalter horse, with FitzWalter's own arms on his own shield and on his horse's caparison.

Following his marriage, Winchester became a prominent military and diplomatic figure in England. There is no evidence of any close alliance with King John, however, and his rise to importance was probably due to his newly acquired magnate status and the family connections that underpinned it.

Saer seems to have developed a close personal relationship with his 2nd cousin, Robert Fitzwalter (died 1235) the son of Walter Fitzrobert and Maud de Lucy. In 1203, they served as co-commanders of the garrison at the major fortress of Vaudreuil in Normandy. They surrendered the castle without a fight to Philip II of France, fatally weakening the English position in northern France. Although popular opinion seems to have blamed them for the capitulation, a royal writ is extant stating that the castle was surrendered at King John's command, and both Winchester and Fitzwalter endured personal humiliation and heavy ransoms at the hands of the French.

In Scotland, he was perhaps more successful. In 1211 to 1212, the Earl of Winchester commanded an imposing retinue of a hundred knights and a hundred serjeants in William the Lion's campaign against the Mac William rebels, a force which some historians have suggested may have been the mercenary force from Brabant lent to the campaign by John.

Magna Carta

In 1215, when the baronial rebellion broke out, Robert Fitzwalter became the military commander, and the Earl of Winchester joined him, acting as one of the chief authors of Magna Carta and negotiators with John; both cousins were among the 25 guarantors of Magna Carta. De Quincy fought against John in the troubles that followed the sealing of the Charter, and, again with Fitzwalter, travelled to France to invite Prince Louis of France to take the English throne. He and Fitzwalter were subsequently among the most committed and prominent supporters of Louis's candidature for the kingship, against both John and the infant Henry III.

The Fifth Crusade

When military defeat cleared the way for Henry III to take the throne, de Quincy went on crusade, perhaps in fulfilment of an earlier vow. In 1219 he left to join the Fifth Crusade, then besieging Damietta. While in the east, he fell sick and died. He was buried in Acre, the capital of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, rather than in Egypt, and his heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family.

Family

The family of de Quincy had arrived in Scotland and England after the Norman Conquest, and took their name from Cuinchy in the Arrondissement of Béthune; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelt in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered Saher or Seer, and the surname as Quency or Quenci.

The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as "Saer I") was lord of the manor of Long Buckby in Northamptonshire in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of Maud de Senlis, daughter of Simon I de Senlis, Earl of Huntingdon-Northampton and Maud of Huntingdon, stepdaughter of King David I of Scotland. This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and Robert de Quincy. It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester. By her first husband Robert Fitz Richard, Maud was also the paternal grandmother of Earl Saer's close ally, Robert Fitzwalter.

Robert de Quincy seems to have inherited no English lands from his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland, where he is recorded from around 1160 as a close companion of his cousin, King William the Lion. By 1170 he had married Orabilis, heiress of the Scottish lordship of Leuchars and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in Fife, Strathearn and Lothian.

Saer de Quincy, the son of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars, was raised largely in Scotland . His absence from English records for the first decades of his life has led some modern historians and genealogists to confuse him with his great uncle, Saer II, who took part in the rebellion of Henry the Young King in 1173, when the future Earl of Winchester can have been no more than a toddler. Saer II's line ended without direct heirs, and his nephew and namesake would eventually inherit his estate, uniting his primary Scottish holdings with the family's Northamptonshire patrimony, and possibly some lands in France.

Issue

Saer de Quincy married Margaret de Beaumont, youngest daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester.

They had issue:

Loretta de Quincy, who married Sir William de Valognes, Chamberlain of Scotland.
Arabella de Quincy, who married Sir Richard Harcourt.
Robert de Quincy (died 1217), c. 1206 he married Hawise of Chester, 1st Countess of Lincoln, daughter of Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort of Évreux
Roger, who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester, married Helen of Galloway, daughter of Alan of Galloway, constable of Scotland
Robert de Quincy [de] (second son of that name; died 1257), who married Elen, daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great.
Hawise, who married Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford.
John de Quincy (died young.)
Saher de Quincy (died young.)

Peerage of England
New creation	Earl of Winchester 1207–1219	Succeeded byRoger de Quincy

References

Complete Peerage p.747
^ Grosseteste 2010, p. 65.
CP p.749
Poole 1993, p. 470.
Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Winchester, Earls and Marquesses of" . Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. 28 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. p. 703.
Hanley 2016, p. 75.
Carpenter 1990, p. 35.
Tout 1969, p. 13.
Prestonpans : a social & economic history across 1000 years Publication date 2006 https://archive.org/details/prestonpanssocia0000unse/mode/2up?q=Quincy
People of Medieval Scotland 1093 - 1371 - Loretta, daughter of Saer de Quincy https://poms.ac.uk/record/person/6603/
Blakely 2005, p. 73.
Wilkinson 2007, p. 27.
Maddicott 1994, p. 3.
Simpson 1985, p. 103.

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External links

People of Medieval Scotland 1093 - 1371 Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - Saer de Quincy, earl of Winchester (d.1219) Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - Robert de Quincy (d.1200x01) Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - Saer de Quincy (d.1190) Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - William, clerk of Saer de Quincy Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - Loretta, daughter of Saer de Quincy Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - Men of Saer de Quincy Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - Margaret, wife of Saer de Quincy Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - Robert de Quincy, son of Saer de Quincy (d.1217
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 - John, steward of Saer de Quincy Retrieved 2024-12-19.
People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371 -Transaction: Confirmation of donation given by Robert de Quincy and his son, Saer de Quincy Retrieved 2024-12-19.

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