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Southern Ivy is a term used to describe a university in the Southern United States that is comparable to a university in the Ivy League, usually from the perspective of having a similar level of academic quality or social prestige. Unlike the Ivy League, which is an established group of eight universities in the Northeastern United States, there is not a fixed standard for what constitutes a Southern Ivy, and different sources may list different universities, depending on their criteria. The term "Southern Ivy League" is also used to refer to a proposed athletic conference that would have included several Southern Ivies.

List of universities

Southern Ivy is located in USA SoutheasternDukeDukeVanderbiltVanderbiltVirginiaVirginiaWashington and LeeWashington and LeeNorth CarolinaNorth CarolinaWilliam & MaryWilliam & MaryDavidsonDavidsonEmoryEmoryWake ForestWake ForestGeorgia TechGeorgia TechFloridaFloridaRichmondRichmondMiamiMiamiGeorgiaGeorgiaTulaneTulaneVirginia TechVirginia TechFurmanFurmanElonElonClemsonClemsonJames MadisonJames MadisonNC StateNC Stateclass=notpageimage| Universities commonly considered Southern Ivies
Blue: Public; Red: Private
* Due to map limitations, universities located in Texas are not depicted.

The following universities have appeared in lists of Southern Ivies and top-ranked universities in the Southern United States.

College State Public or private? References
Duke University North Carolina Private
Rice University Texas Private
Vanderbilt University Tennessee Private
University of Virginia Virginia Public
Washington and Lee University Virginia Private
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill North Carolina Public
College of William & Mary North Carolina Public
Davidson College North Carolina Private
Emory University Georgia Private
Wake Forest University North Carolina Private
Georgia Institute of Technology Georgia Public
University of Florida Florida Public
University of Texas at Austin Texas Public
University of Richmond Virginia Private
University of Miami Florida Private
Southern Methodist University Texas Private
University of Georgia Georgia Public
Texas A&M University Texas Public
Tulane University Louisiana Private
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Virginia Public
Furman University South Carolina Private
Elon University North Carolina Private
Clemson University South Carolina Public
James Madison University Virginia Public
North Carolina State University North Carolina Public

Proposed athletic conference

Southern Ivy is located in the United StatesDukeDukeGeorgia TechGeorgia TechRiceRiceSouthern MethodistSouthern MethodistTulaneTulaneVirginiaVirginiaVanderbiltVanderbiltWashington UniversityWashington Universityclass=notpageimage| Universities considered at various times during the 1950s and 1960s for a "Southern Ivy League" athletic conference

Following World War II, many small private universities, such as Vanderbilt, began to struggle to compete against larger public universities in American football. In the Southeastern Conference (SEC), the Vanderbilt Commodores, which had fielded competitive teams in the early 20th century, struggled against other teams and by the 1940s was running a deficit in its athletics department. In the late 1940s, Vanderbilt Chancellor Harvie Branscomb hoped to reposition the university's football team as a more low-budget program by creating rivalries with Ivy League universities, and to this end he scheduled a 1948 game against the Yale Bulldogs football team. However, when Vanderbilt team beat the Bulldogs by a score of 35–0, Yale declined to play any further games against the Commodores.

Around 1951, Branscomb attempted to organize a new athletic conference that would have been a Southern equivalent of the Ivy League with universities such as Duke, Rice, Tulane, Virginia, and Washington University in St. Louis joining Vanderbilt, though the effort failed, prompting Branscomb to remark that his university was "located in a spot where ivy does not seem to flourish. Later that year, Branscomb proposed a series of changes to the SEC's regulations that would have helped Vanderbilt's teams, but these were rejected by the administrators of the other universities in the conference. In the late 1950s, Branscomb secretly held a meeting with the presidents of five other Southern universities (Duke, Georgia Tech, Rice, Southern Methodist, and Tulane) to discuss forming a new conference, referred to as either the "Southern Ivy League" or the "Magnolia Conference". However, the proposed conference never came to fruition. In the cases of Duke and Georgia Tech, the two universities did not want to jeopardize their in-state rivalries against the University of North Carolina and the University of Georgia, respectively, while Rice and Southern Methodist did not want to give up their share of income from the Cotton Bowl Classic. While discussions of a Southern Ivy League persisted, often including Duke, Rice, Southern Methodist, Tulane, and Vanderbilt, the conference never materialized, and by the early 1960s, the plan had been retired.

References

  1. ^ Morgan 2014, p. 108.
  2. ^ Ainsworth 2013, p. 873.
  3. ^ Saul 2022.
  4. ^ Carlton 2024.
  5. ^ Carey 2003, pp. 219–220.
  6. ^ Carey 2003, p. 221.
  7. ^ Mohr 1997, p. 51.
  8. Carey 2003, pp. 221–222.
  9. ^ Carey 2003, p. 222.
  10. ^ Papillion 2022.
  11. Walsh 2006, p. 18.
  12. Mohr 1997, p. 52.

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