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Did you know... that Şebnem Korur Fincancı, a drafter of a United Nations guideline on the documentation of torture, was arrested after she suggested an investigation into the use of chemical weapons?
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... that Şebnem Korur Fincancı, one of the drafters of a UN guideline on the documentation of torture, was arrested after she suggested an investigation into the use of chemical weapons? Source: several within article, but in this source all is in one
New and certainly long enough. QPQ done. Properly referenced (AGF on Turkish sources). Interesting hook. Looks good to me! Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 18:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Controversies Section
This section seems near-incomprehensible to me. Unless the reader already know the information about these people and organizations, it's really hard to understand. Needs to be clarified. And the awkward English certainly doesn't help. T bonham (talk) 19:52, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
I agree. The only one about it in English was this one which is not really clarifying either. And I am not sure if controversies is the correct word here as she is praised and trusted by International institutions over and over. I'll remove it until it is explained what is meant.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:06, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
My English is not excellent, that may have led to confusion. What I tried to explain was about her role on preventing to enlighten the murders of Uğur Mumcu, Ahmet Taner Kışlalı and Bahriye Üçok (according to Mumcu's brother); as well as her intervention in Ergenekon trials.
I think it is a controversial thing to prevent solving a murder, no matter how "praised" a person is. That is why I named the section "Controversies".--Isvind (talk) 16:23, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
I saw that you reinstated some info but it is still questionable if one google translates the source you provided there is no mention of lawyers or that the report was only based on talks between lawyers and clients/suspects. Also, the Heinrich Böll Stiftung source/p.248 mentions, that she was wrongfully threatened of dismissal after those reports on Ugur Mumcu came out. Then that she was admitted to the Ergenekon trials (did not attempt to take part, but actually did take part) because some of her rights were not respected but I am not ready yet with my research to add some phrases on it. Maybe bring a source in English then we can jointly try to assemble some meaningful phrases.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:55, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Ceyhan Mumcu's speech mentions that the report was based on the lawyers' talks with the suspects and Fincancı didn't examine the suspects.
Böll source mentions Fincancı's dismissal as "the state tried to prevent her from doing her work because of the reports and articles she wrote about her findings." This, as far as I understood, assumes the report is true but doesn't give much details as Mumcu does (maybe even more than I could add for now) and these two contradict each other.
Böll source also mentions "She stated that the authorities threatened her after she issued a report about the treatment of the suspects in Uğur Mumcu’s assassination and immediately afterwards it came to light that a secret letter had been sent ordering her dismissal." Also assuming what she claimed is true, but concluded from an 2008 interview of hers, these accusations were related to Ergenekon trials, which was eventually proven to be false. But the sources disproving the accusations in Ergenekon trials, as far as I know, weren't translated into English, so all the English sources about Ergenekon are either from contemporary Gülenist media or based on it. So Böll source assumes Ergenekon as a real organization as well, which is not. For this reason, I don't think I can find an appropriate English source about the incident.
New and certainly long enough. QPQ done. Properly referenced (AGF on Turkish sources). Interesting hook. Looks good to me! Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 18:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
