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—Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:52, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Natalie Tran

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Thanks

Thank you so much for your comments on the ANI board at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Request_for_CIR_enforcement. I was in abject despair about the way so many ganged up on me without cause. To have a little common sense applied was (to me) like giving water to a man in the desert. I really do hope it's caused others to stop and have pause for thought. SonofSetanta (talk) 09:25, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, you're welcome, SonofSetanta. That got really ugly. I've been reading a lot of noticeboards and dispute resolution cases lately and it seems like half of the time, the conversation boomerangs back on to the OP and he or she ends up facing sanctions for bringing a case to a noticeboard. The OP becomes the topic of discussion instead of the original complaint that is filed.

It seems unfair that 3 or 4 vocal opponents in an ANI can generate a topic ban when the original question was on something else entirely. I'm so glad that the people reading the page could see the transparent attack upon you. Liz 18:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry I missed seeing this when you first posted it. It's time to move some discussion on my Talk Page. Liz 18:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: 2013 New Haven Open at Yale – Doubles

Hello Newjerseyliz. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of 2013 New Haven Open at Yale – Doubles, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: That notable people are playing in it is a good indication of notability. Needs to be PRODded or taken to AfD. Thank you. Ged UK 11:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

That's fair, Ged UK . Feel free to object and move it to somewhere more appropriate. It seemed to me to be a local sporting event and I didn't see it's significance for Misplaced Pages. Lots of communities have golf tournaments or marathons or tennis tournaments and don't have a Misplaced Pages page about it. But I could be wrong. Good luck! Liz 18:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newjerseyliz (talk • contribs)

LGBT guidelines

Hey, just checking if you saw my response to your post about LGBT categorization guidelines. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, my, Roscelese, thanks for letting me know. I did some work with CfD in late July and there didn't seem to be a lot of movement so I hadn't checked back. Now I will! Is this in WP:EGRS? Liz 18:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I didn't see any response to my question at WP:EGRS so maybe you can point me to the right page. Thanks! Liz 18:42, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, here. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:55, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Roscelese, I also posted this question at WP:EGRS and I believe BLP (maybe the WikiProject on Actors, too). I posted a reply to you at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject LGBT studies.

I thought this really was an issue for WP LGBT to decide but since you're giving me the only feedback I've received, I might take it to the RSN and see what they say. They are pretty responsive but I think I already know how they will answer (documentation is required). Liz 21:42, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Icons

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Speedy deletion nomination of Liz/Whiteboard

Hello Liz,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Liz/Whiteboard for deletion, because it seems to be a test. Did you know that the Misplaced Pages Sandbox is available for testing out edits?

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. TheLongTone (talk) 11:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

TheLongTone, I just decided to call my Sandbox page "Whiteboard" instead. I've seen some users with dozens of sub-pages with different kinds of names (one user calls their Sandbox "Litterbox" instead) so I'm surprised that this page has even gotten the attention of any other users besides myself. Liz 11:59, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Liz. All fixed up. See

Any problems, please let me know. Peter aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Shirt58! Have a great day. Full moon tonight! ;-) Liz 13:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Icons

Thought you would enjoy this link quoting Morwen

http://www.buzzfeed.com/justinesharrock/wikipedia-changed-its-entry-to-properly-reflect-chelsea-mann

Morwen also blogged here: http://abigailbrady.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/chelsea-manning-on-pressing-button.html

--\/\/slack (talk) 04:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, \/\/slack! I just finished reading it. I appreciate the alert! Liz 12:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Valerie Sutton

I see that you succeeded in getting the article on Valerie Sutton deleted. It is absolutely stupid things like this that are why I hardly ever edit Misplaced Pages anymore and stick to Wikia, where I don't run into such things.

VS created a system to record movement. It is now used by many people. I do not see how you could possibly consider the article, as written, to be nothing but a promotion for her systems. It was purely a biography and a history of how the system of movement writing came to be designed.

The article was no more a promotion than a biography of Henry Ford is a commercial for Ford cars, or a biography of Bill Gates a commercial for Microsoft.

You've given me one more reason not to bother editing on Misplaced Pages. -- BRG (talk) 12:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry if my action is part of the reason why you might quit editing on Misplaced Pages, BRG. The reason for the article deletion was:

"G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: image is copyright, "refs" are spamlinks, not independent, don'tsupport text support.

You can always appeal a deletion, of course (nothing is ever truly deleted!). I know that deleted pages can be restored if an editor can say they will address the problems that existed in the article. I don't know the specific page to go to so I'd suggest asking Jimfbleak for clarification about this deletion. NewJerseyLiz 12:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

It is hard to "address the problems that existed in the article" because I cannot figure out what words you found to be "unambiguous advertising or promotion." I can't for the life of me figure out what words led you to characterize it as such.

By not stating where you found words that were "promotional," you gave me no way to defend the article specifically. It's blind-side attacks like this that make me disinclined to do anything on Misplaced Pages except correct typos and stuff like that. --BRG (talk) 03:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

BRG, I tagged the article because it was self-promotional, it read like a fan page and had few references. But I don't believe you have to rebut my reasons for tagging it, just make a good argument about why it shouldn't have been deleted.

But as I said above, I recommend you contact Jimfbleak for clarification as he was the user who actually deleted the article. Liz 13:04, 23 August 2013 (UTC)