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Since you admitted you are not here to edit collaboratively

Please reference this message where you were invited to edit collaboratively and indicated your unwillingness to comply with policy and guidelines. Accordingly, you show all signs that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. —C.Fred (talk) 14:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks a lot. Final wish? Can i have my user page unlocked to write my point of view for my ban or you will not allow that?Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 14:42, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

No. The link to my user talk page provides plenty of context for people who want to see what led up to the event. As does this WP:AN3 diff. —C.Fred (talk) 14:43, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Can i write here then?Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 14:44, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I would advise against it. If what you write is anything along the lines of the section above, you'll lose your talk-page editing privileges as well. At this point, you have access only for the purpose of requesting an unblock or otherwise rejoining the community of constructive editors. —C.Fred (talk) 14:52, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

C.Fred please don't revert it. It is my final note. I won't bother u again.

Final note of an ex-member of English Misplaced Pages / or My Point of View

English Misplaced Pages has many pros and cos.

pros

a)It is a very well organinised place to contribute. b)There are plenty of well designed process for everything.

cos

BUT! In conflict issues, there is propaganda everywhere. In topics about Balkans, or small leftist parties, if a group of users decide to play with the rules they can promote easily their propaganda.

Me

My advantages

I tried to participate because i had a lot of uptodate bibliography and a strong knowledge of history.

My disadvantages

It is obvious that my English were very weak. It is obvious that i hadn't patience, or i wasn't very polite to some users.

Future

No future for me here. I hope some other users better than me, will contribute better than me. I was excausted by the constantly edit warring.

So it is a redemption for me to leave this place.

Apologies

Apologies to some users and admins cause i understand that a)they can't know all history facts or they don't have the time to check what i had written with my bad english.

Happy new year to all

No bad feelings (to most of the users, not all ;)). If u want something ping me in Greek WP. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 15:01, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Jenhawk777

Dear friend i am permanent blocked so i can't answer to you , cause i can't stand more this situation here.

Good luck (you will need it) and take care.Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 12:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you will appeal that to arbitration. Simply tell them what they need to hear and come work with me. I noted that all your comments on the article in question were on point and correct, so I hope you will come back. I did in fact eventually change the entire article in exactly the manner you suggested.

I had a miserable first year on WP, was stalked and harassed, and left for about two years, but now I understand better how to do this and avoid the conflict. I will help you in any way I can. WP is a collaborative effort so a stated willingness to do that to arbitration will probably get you back here. Do try. We need people with your understanding here. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I am very pleased that I was able to help you in your wonderfull work. I have transmited your comments in Greek Misplaced Pages because a user had translated this article of awfull propaganda and original research in Greek WP. I had warned them since May of 2019 that this was an 'disgusting' article. But in Greece if something is from the huge English WP is considered to be with high credibility. What a joke!

The last two years there is a constantly harrassment against me here, so I can't exist. Administrators don't really care for the reasons of the problems, but they do care if I shout or something like that. Today I wrote this in Greek WP, i will write there. I have put everything. I don't do propaganda, I am not payed from anyone, I don't care for WP privileges so I think I really don't have a place here without belonging to groups of users. I am very sad, as you can conclude, but is better to be sad than to be an idiot who is stalked by trolls and propagandists who have an agenda to promote or a state/party that can pay them.Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 17:55, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Αντικαθεστωτικός: I can't read Greek so I have no idea what you posted. I will say that writing on Misplaced Pages takes a great deal of patience and forbearance combined with enough knowledge of the rules to know what you can legitimately require of others and what you mustn't put up with. My experience has been that the wheels of justice do turn exceedingly slowly here--trolls and propagandists do get away with things for a time--but not forever. Without the trolls, WP is actually a wonderful place to work.

I saw the bias in this article and came up with reliable sources that were not included--as you noted yourself--and I went to the talk page and told them what I was going to add these and then started doing so while also checking all the sources originally in the article. I ended up rewriting the entire article. There is nothing of the original left--though I tried to keep what I could--in the end, it was all plagiarism, original research, from blogs or not referenced at all. It all had to go.

One person tried to tag this new version as biased, but there was no support, and it only lasted a week. I think you can feel confident in posting a link to it now. It's pretty ironclad. I wish you good luck and good experiences on Greek WP. We need people like you there too. It is better to be sad than stalked. I know that personally, but eventually stalkers get tracked down, taken to arbitration and banned. Just make sure you are always the one who rises above and you'll do fine. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:07, 8 August 2020 (UTC)