User talk:Антон патріот

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September 2014

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September 2014

Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus, as you did to Category:War in Donbass. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains under way. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Misplaced Pages. Thank you. Amortias (T)(C) 19:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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October 2014

Your recent editing history at Daylight Saving Time shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Jc3s5h (talk) 12:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Old Russian state

If you think that the article "Old Russian state" should not be a redirect, but a separate article, give your arguments here: Talk:Old Russian state#Merge discussion. Don't just revert other editors' edits without discussion. In the edit summary you wrote "Old Russian state is not Kyivan Rus" but you did not give any evidence, and the article you restored itself says that "Old Russian state is a term which politicians and historians of Russia describe Kyivan Rus". Vanjagenije (talk) 11:27, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Donetsk People's Republic edit-war

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Donetsk People's Republic. I have started a discussion at Talk:Donetsk People's Republic#How many infoboxes the article should have, and which one should it be. Please could you stop making reverts and contribute to the discussion.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:52, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Donetsk People's Republic shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
You were asked to discuss the matter in Talk instead of reverting again. – Herzen (talk) 05:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Two infoboxs, czech wiki

Please, can you stop adding second infobox in articles abouth Donetsk and Lugansk people republics on czech wiki? Any article abouth similar entity havent two infoboxs and second one dont add any informations. If you want change something is indecent starting reverting, first you should propose it in discussion.--Dag13 (talk) 11:55, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Edit warring at Donetsk People's Republic

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The full report is at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Антон патріот reported by User:Herzen (Result: Blocked). We wonder what your future is likely to be on the English Misplaced Pages when you are blocked on so many other Wikipedias. Perhaps you will surprise us? Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 05:50, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

The nice new article you created

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for creating the article on the Old Russian state propaganda term. Please try to work collaboratively. Talk pages can help with this.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:38, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

Discussion

Hi Антон патріот, Please take your disagreements about controversial subjects (such as the Donetsk People's Republic) to the talk page, before being WP:Bold.--Bogu Slav 22:21, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello. There are no differences. DPR is the terrorist organization and "Republic". But Muscovites do not like when they called terrorists. I had escape from Donetsk, and do not try for me to argue that the DPR is not terrorists.--Антон патріот (talk) 11:17, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Nobody is arguing with you. When you get unblocked, you'll have to respect the Misplaced Pages policies. You'll have to discuss every controversial edit that you want to make at the talk page first, before performing the edit. Otherwise, you may be blocked indefinitely. And, you should know that Misplaced Pages's blocks are issued to person, not to an account. So, if you try to register another account, that one will be blocked too. That would be a loss both for you and for the Misplaced Pages community. So, please, stay calm and discuss every edit at the talk page. If other editors do not agree with you, try to explain them politely, using arguments and using reliable sources. And, you may only perform such a controversial edit after consensus is reached at talk page. I am not commenting about who's right and who's wrong. I don't know about that, but I know that you have to respect the rules if you want to be here. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:39, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Why should I register another account? I have this account 4 years, and he had me fully satisfied.--Антон патріот (talk) 12:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Because the account is blocked. Vanjagenije (talk) 13:08, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

So what?--Антон патріот (talk) 17:15, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Anton, there are editors who agree with you and those who disagree with you, but participation in an WP:edit war will NOT make your voice heard. It will only result in a WP:BLOCK. Creating extra accounts may also result in you being blocked (see Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry). The most productive way forward is to build WP:CONSENSUS on the talk page. --Bogu Slav 17:30, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Anton, please stop this and go to the talk page. Otherwise, you will be blocked for longer and longer periods of time.--Bogu Slav 08:01, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

If you edit war, you are just giving victory to the sock-puppets of Putin. Please participate in the discussion on Talk:Donetsk People's Republic-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:05, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Нам потрібна ваша підтримка на сторінці обговорення.--Bogu Slav 08:08, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

@Boguslavmandzyuk: When on the English-language Misplaced Pages, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

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December 2014

You have been blocked from editing for a period of two weeks for edit warring by resumption of reverting at Donetsk People's Republic and Lugansk People's Republic after expiration of last block. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bbb23 (talk) 15:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Ну тоді нема сенсу вести якісь обговорення. До зустрічі за два тижні. --Антон патріот (talk) 18:40, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Google translation: "Well, then there is no sense to hold any discussion. See you in two weeks".--Bbb23 (talk) 19:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

January 2015

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for edit warring. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

You have been blocked indefinitely because blocks of increasing length have not caused you to change your approach to editing Misplaced Pages. I am open to unblocking you on the condition that you accept a topic ban on Russia-Ukraine-related topics. Acroterion (talk) 12:54, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Anton, I really wish you had not chosen this course of action. It had no benefit to you or to us; we all have to obey rules.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:13, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Добре, дотримуйтесь. Але доводити мені, що ДНР не терористи, те саме, що доводити, що земля квадратна. Гаразд, нехай це твердження залишиться, але квадратною від цього вона ж не стане? А загалом мене не цікавить думка ватників та англоколорадів, не цікавлять їхні правила. Чим тоді Англійська Вікіпедія відрізняється від російської? З повагою. --Антон патріот (talk) 10:04, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Google translation: OK , follow . But I argue that the NPT is not terrorists , the same as proving that the earth is square . Okay, this statement may still exist, but Square so she will not ? Overall, I was not interested in the idea quilted jacket and anhlokoloradiv not interested in their rules . What then is different from the English Misplaced Pages Russian ? Sincerely . --Anton Patriot (talk) 10:04, 17 January 2015 Vanjagenije (talk) 11:01, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

You may not edit-war. That is the entire reason you've been blocked, because you did the same thing over and over. I have no views on who's a "terrorist" and who is not, you were blocked for you edit-warring. Acroterion (talk) 12:34, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I strongly suggest that the user not be unblocked. I had to block him at Wikidata for edit-warring, and instead of stopping he started to grossly insult me at his user page and imply that I blocked him for the sole reason that I am Russian (insulting me in Ukrainian though I do not speak this language). Since he repeats exactly the same behavior here, I do not think he should be editing the English Misplaced Pages anymore.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:48, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

It is really sad that he chose to behave that way. I suspect that Anton does not have sufficient understanding to realise that people tried to meet his concerns, and that the correct way to behave on Misplaced Pages is to be collaborative. I guess that he could not understand the discussion on the article talk page.

Maybe one day Anton will understand, but let us not revisit the question in 2015.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:49, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

I also support keeping the block in place for this year. Unfortunately, the user has demonstrated no desire to curb his/her BATTLEGROUND behaviour. The area the user edits in is tendentious enough without relentless disruption and uncivil interactions. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Did a year later "DPL" is be not a terrorist organization? You can block me, but you can not hide the truth.

For Ymblanter: Who said to you that these were insult? You do not know Ukrainian. It was a compliment.--Антон патріот (talk) 06:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Anton - you understand nothing.

Your block is not about the Santa Claus impersonator and his band of terrorists. It is about the stupid way you behaved.

Ask one of your friends who speaks English better than you to explain to you the article talk page. Maybe then you will understand a little the discussion there.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I behaved adequately. They must block user who started the edits war, but not me. But the English Misplaced Pages administrators sympathetic to "quilted jacket" and "English colorado beetle".--Антон патріот (talk) 10:25, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I may regret this, but what do "quilted jacket" and "English colorado beetle" have to do with your edit-warring? Acroterion (talk) 12:25, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't know anything about "quilted jackets", but "colorado beetle" is a term used to refer to the separatists, as they wear the Ribbon of Saint George. RGloucester — ☎ 16:16, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Per his global block log this editor is now blocked on commons, cs, es, wikidata and now here. He does have over 10,000 edits on uk.wikipedia.org and he is not blocked there. Perhaps he would do better to limit himself to the Ukrainian Misplaced Pages from now on. EdJohnston (talk) 16:24, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

"Quilted Jacket" in Russian is ва́тник (vatnik), which is a disparaging term for a Russian who is stupid and blindly loves his Motherland.-- Toddy1 (talk) 22:28, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanations. Since Anton has plainly stated that he thinks he behaved appropriately by indulging in nationalist edit-warring and has used what appears to have been meant as disparaging descriptions of his perceived opponents, I withdraw the offer to reconsider: he is indefinitely blocked. Acroterion (talk) 23:47, 19 January 2015 (UTC)