Franklin Roosevelt
You are greatly mistaken here by not reading Misplaced Pages MOS. The Roosevelt article is specifically mentioned by example to use a footnote. Someone changed it against MOS and I fixed it with thanks from several editors. We are supposed to use a footnote but some articles are not really following the rules. Such as the fact we are not supposed to be using references in the lead if possible. Certainly a single small English pronunciation is permissible, but once you get to two examples it should be a footnote. And for conformity of articles it seemed best to use it in most cases. MOS tells us that what you reverted at Roosevelt is the bad example in our rules. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:35, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Your following my every edit is bordering on harassment. Please stop. MOS:PRONPLACEMENT is clear in how wikipedia handles longer pronunciations and things in the lead. None of it has to be in the lead and multiple language pronunciations detract from the first sentence. They are trivial in that regard. They can be moved but since you seem to have an issue with moving them I followed standard procedure and footnoted them, especially the longer parenthesized ones. Some sports editors have let these things get way out of hand and I am fixing the worst of the offenders. As we did at president Franklin D Roosevelt. No other encyclopedias plop this info in brackets in the lead... it makes it hard to read. Please STOP following me around. You're new so I'm being patient. MOS is fairly clear on these long stewy items:
NGreenwich Village (/ˈɡrɛnɪtʃ/ GREN-itch, /ˈɡrɛnɪdʒ/ GREN-ij, /ˈɡrɪnɪtʃ/ GRIN-itch, /ˈɡrɪnɪdʒ/ GRIN-ij), in New York often simply called "the Village"...
YGreenwich Village, in New York often simply called "the Village"...
- NFranklin Delano Roosevelt (/ˈroʊzəvɛlt/ ROH-zə-velt or /ˈroʊzəvəlt/ ROH-zə-vəlt; January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), also known by his initials, FDR, was the 32nd President of the United States (1933–1945).
- YFranklin Delano Roosevelt (January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), also known by his initials, FDR, was the 32nd President of the United States (1933–1945).
- It would be great if you could help here. We can do it either way. Perhaps you would prefer the Greenwich Village style? I'm flexible on either. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:52, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note that not only did you move long pronunciaions, you also moved and even removed short pronunciations (including one pronunciation for each word) and native names. You did this as if you're the owner of these articles. Please STOP! 下世荷兰人 (talk) 12:04, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- So in other words you don't want to work with me on this and simply want to revert. We do not put pronunciations for easy to say words. That would be ridiculous. And if they make the lead parenths hard to read they can easily be put in a note that a mouseover can remedy. I'm not sure what the issue is here. You're pretty new new here but seem to have a chip on your shoulder about this.
- For English words and names, pronunciation should normally be omitted for common words or when obvious from the spelling; use it only for foreign loanwords (coup d'etat), names with counterintuitive pronunciation (Leicester, Ralph Fiennes), or very unusual words (synecdoche). Pronunciation should be indicated sparingly, as parenthetical information disturbs the normal flow of the text and introduces clutter. In the article text, it should be indicated only where it is directly relevant to the subject matter, such as describing a word's etymology or explaining a pun. Less important pronunciations should be omitted altogether, relegated to a footnote, or to a dedicated section in the article or infobox. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:42, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- So in other words you don't want to work with me on this and simply want to revert. We do not put pronunciations for easy to say words. That would be ridiculous. And if they make the lead parenths hard to read they can easily be put in a note that a mouseover can remedy. I'm not sure what the issue is here. You're pretty new new here but seem to have a chip on your shoulder about this.
- Note that not only did you move long pronunciaions, you also moved and even removed short pronunciations (including one pronunciation for each word) and native names. You did this as if you're the owner of these articles. Please STOP! 下世荷兰人 (talk) 12:04, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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- @Nardog Wow thank you so much :) 下世荷兰人 (talk) 15:33, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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August 2023
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Novak Djokovic. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:31, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Code violation. Footnote abuse. Warning Mr. Fyunck(click). 下世荷兰人 (talk) 12:20, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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This is a warning about this edit from August; despite the note and the article making it clear that the normal order is not used, and despite no evidence of the conjunction "i", you changed the hatnote to use a template that made it incorrect on one count and inaccurate at best on another. Please be careful and know the subject matter before adding things 'just because it's a template' - not everything needs to use a template, they're there to streamline in many cases but should not be assumed to be practicable for all. Kingsif (talk) 23:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
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