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Re your repeated edits to Category:British Rail electric multiple units, would you please explain why you think that fr:Catégorie:Automotrice du Royaume-Uni, for example, is not an appropriate inter-wiki link? - David Biddulph (talk) 14:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Japanese and Magyar Category inculude underground multiple units, Chinese and franch Category mean Category:Electric multiple units of the UK. 隼鷹 (talk) 14:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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Jacobs bogie

What language link did you add to Jacobs bogie? Japanese? Peter Horn User talk 16:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

In japanese ja:連接台車(coupling bogie), chinese zh:關節式轉向架(jointed bogie), it is also equal means of jacobs bogie.--隼鷹 (talk) 16:51, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

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Hanja

Hello.

May I ask you a question about your edits? Where did you find that Hanja data? Thanks.

こんにちは。

もしよかったら、この漢字名の原典がどこにあるか教えてくれませんか？

--Garam (talk) 09:48, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

カーリング選手はこちら韓国の東亜日報の記事です。在首場比賽中贏得首勝的冰壺情侶，韓國隊的前路豁然開闊
金娜賢については日本の読売新聞です。平昌オリンピック各国選手名鑑韓国
丁正勳については日本のシネマジャーナルです。第４回アジアンフィルムアワード

以上です。ご確認願います。--隼鷹 (talk) 10:26, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I confirmed your link for cinematographer "丁正勳", and a Google book's data. However, in this case, Yomiuri Shimbun, like Kim Na-hyun, is not WP:IRS in my opinion, becuase of only Yomiuri data is searched. But I don't know whether word "金娜玄" #1 is right or not. And I think, Chinese data, like the curlers, also cannot be used for the source because some Chinese case is different from Hanja, such as "朴裕天" (朴有天 in Chinese) Thanks.

「丁正勳」に関するリンクは確認しました。また、Google bookでほかのリンクも見つけました。だが、この「キム・ナヒョン」の場合に読売新聞はWP:IRSではないと思います。この理由はネットで読売のものしかなかったからです。でも、「金娜玄」#1という表記が正しいのかどうかは良く分からないです。そうして、カーリング選手たちの件も信頼できる情報ではないと思いますが、これについては「朴裕天」（中国語では「朴有天」）の例の通りちょっと異なる場合があるので、これ以外のほかの原典が必要だと思います。

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では金娜玄の方は差し戻しをしておきます。カーリング選手については中国ではなく韓国のの大手新聞社がソースであっても信頼性がありませんか。カーリング選手については中國中央電視台冰壶混合双人循环赛韩国3-8不敌挪威、聯合通信社韩冰壶队获首胜でも同一表記ですね。韓国大手がもう一社と中国国営放送がソースでも不可でしょうか。--隼鷹 (talk) 14:40, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, the names of Korean people are often used as a Chinese transliteration of a Korean word by Chinese language media, such as "趙文盧" #2, but real Hanja is "趙原佑". So, we need to be careful about it. First, I will try to contact one curling player directly. But I'm not sure whether will be reply for my questions. Thanks.

えと、何というか、中国語のメディアはしばしば韓国人/朝鮮人の名前を中国語で音訳する場合もありますが、例えば「趙文盧」#2は「趙原佑」の音訳です。その理由で、韓国/朝鮮人名の中国語表記は漢字を再び確認する必要があると思います。先ずは、さきほどネットでカーリング選手に連絡したが、今はまだ競技期間だから多分すぐには漢字名を分からないと思います。ただ、その人が返信してくれるかどうかもはよく分からないです。

--Garam (talk) 07:52, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

中国は以前から意外と当て字が多いのは承知しております。ですから東亜日報等をソースにしたのですが、その韓国大手新聞社ですらリソースの確認をしていないのはとんでもない事ですね。当人からの返信待ちで、返信があり、かつ間違いがあれば訂正、返信無し、間違い無しならば東亜日報の記事の通りで良いでしょう。--隼鷹 (talk) 09:24, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Okay, first I understand. But in the past, some cases were spelled name (with Hanja) incorrectly by the big newspapers in Japan and South Korea, such as Gim Jeongun (김정운, 金正雲), but in fact real name is Gim Jeongeun (김정은, 金正恩). (For this, see ja:金正恩#名前). So, I said that we need to be careful about it. Thanks.

先ずは分かりました。ただ、過去に日韓/韓日の大手新聞社たちが金正恩を「김정은」（金正恩）ではなく「김정운」（金正雲）って表記した件（ja:金正恩#名前）があったから、ちょっと慎重を期する必要があると思いました。

--Garam (talk) 12:53, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

韓国のマスコミすら信用ならない件についても了解しました。今後も要経過観察していきます。--隼鷹 (talk) 15:13, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Actually, the name Gim Jeongun (김정운, 金正雲) is from Chinese language press. Anyhow, thanks for your cooperation.

実はこの「金正雲」って名前も中国語のマスコミから来た表記でした。とにかく、ご協力、ありがとうございます。

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