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April 17

grade one hair

His hair had been razored to a grade one. Would someone tell me what it means? Grade one hair means short hair or what? Thanks.61.60.242.186 16:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)Jenny

Yes. I'm not sure offhand (and Google isn't telling me) exactly how short; a few millimetres. The grades (which go up to eight, I think) refer to the different sizes of guard used with hair clippers. Grade nought means no guard at all. Algebraist 21:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.61.60.242.186 14:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC) Jenny

Mac & Cheese

<<<<<You could just melt velveta and use that.>>>>>>>>

I've been trying to make Macaroni and cheese and so far they had ended in spectacular failures. I managed the Macaroni part fine but had great trouble with the cheese sauce. Recipes indicate that I need to melt cheese in milk, so I tried with mozarella and cheddar cheese, and both made the milk curdle and form into substances like boiled egg whites. Even if I remove the milk, making melted cheese, it sitll looked different than the store bought version (with all the cheese powder and other things). So, my question is, does it only work with American cheese and not blocks you buy from supermarket? What make the milk curdle like that? Is there a way to avoid it?

yes I'll admit I don't have much experience in cooking --antilived 02:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Cheese sauce isn't just cheese melted in milk; what you really need is a good basic white sauce, made from a roux of melted butter and flour, to which milk is added, making what is (more or less) a Bechamel sauce. Once that sauce is thickened, then you add the cheese,resulting in a Mornay sauce. There are probably a million recipes on line; let's see... here's one that looks about right. I've never tried this particular one, but it seems to be similar to the recipe I use. Once you have the sauce, toss it with your cooked pasta, put more cheese on top, and bake the whole thing until it's heated through and bubbly. (Or, just skip the baking and eat it with a spoon.) - Eron 02:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I think successful cheese sauces all depend on something acting as an emulsifier. In Eron's recipe, the roux serves that purpose . For a fondue, the alcohol serves that purpose. For recipes based on American cheese (including Cheez Whiz and Velveeta), the cheeses already contain emulsifiers. And so on...

Atlant 13:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, making it manually doesn't work at all well. The basic problem is that oil separates out of regular cheese when it melts. Instead, try using a powdered cheese like parmesan or romano, or use a "cheese" specially formulated to melt nicely, like Velveeta. Of course, since this will end up costing far more than the stuff in the box, why not just stick with that ? I like to use that cheese power but omit the milk and butter/margarine and use spaghetti sauce instead. This results in a much healthier and still tasty treat. You can even add broccoli to make it more healthy. StuRat 02:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

So basically the "alternate recipe" in here is just rubbish? I guess I'll just stick the boxed stuff since it's a lot easier than making it yourself... --antilived 03:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, you can make it from scratch, I just don't see much advantage. Notice that some other things made from scratch, like baked bread, are much better, so I would recommend that. StuRat 06:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

This might not be what you're wanting, but when I make homemade mac and cheese, I cook the pasta, then use about 2-3 slices of American cheese per cup of pasta (it tends to depend on my mood, level of laziness, and whether or not it looks like enough when it's melted). I fold the cheese into eighths, then drop it on the pasta (it helps the melting process). Add a little butter, and a little milk, to make stirring easier, and keep adding cheese til it looks right. Then, depending on your preference, you can sprinkle some cheddar in also, and stir that up...add salt and pepper to taste, and it should be pretty good. Seiran 03:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

So yes you do need American cheese for that... Ah well then I'll just eat my cheese with my crackers. Thanks guys. --antilived 03:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Kraft Dinner is the way to go, if they sell it in New Zealand.--ChesterMarcol 03:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't say American cheese is strictly necessary for Macaroni and cheese. It's just my personal preference, and necessary in making it the way I like it =P I assume the same thing could be done with other types of cheese, assuming they were sliced finely enough to melt. It's really a trial and error thing. And hey, your macaroni failures sound less dramatic than some I've had- unless you've managed to set yourself on fire too! Seiran 04:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Normal cheese is not thick when they melt, like American cheese; They are actually quite runny and believe me I got that from first hand experience (wasted half a block of cheese just trying to make that cheese sauce). --antilived 04:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

If you want good macaroni & cheese, see if your local supermarket stocks Annie's. It's the best. Vranak

I'm reading these answers, but at the same time I'm banging my head against the keyboard. Cheese sauce is the easiest thing on Earth to make. You don't need that crappy greasy overpriced "American" cheese either - any good cheese (except Mozzarella, which is too stringy) will do. Asiago, cheddar, marble, Gouda, Havarti, Gruyere, Swiss - I made it with leftover ricotta once. Make a white sauce, grate your cheese, add it, and whiskwhiskwhisk until it's incorporated.

The trick is not to walk away from the stove when you're making it and to use a whisk, not a spoon. Don't just stir the thing around - whiskwhiskwhisk like mad until it's done. It takes about ten minutes. Most recipes can be doubled. --Charlene 02:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't see how you can whisk it when it's like 2cm high in the pot... I shall try again tomorrow with a proper white sauce (not just melting cheese in milk). One thing though, will it work with margarine or vegetable oil? I don't think I have any real butter at home. --antilived 03:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Pretty much any oil will do the trick. (Er, cooking oil; don't try this with Pennzoil). I think butter tastes better, but it isn't essential. Equal amounts oil and flour - I use 2 tablespoons of each. Heat the oil in the pan, whisk in the butter and cook for a few minutes. Then add a cup of milk. (It's best to use warmed milk - not boiled, but almost. Maybe nuke it for a couple of minutes.) Whisk it in. There will probably be a few lumps, but as you continue to cook and whisk they should disappear. After a few minutes the sauce will thicken. That's when you add the cheese. - Eron 11:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

If you want to give the sauce a little bit of extra flavour, I really like to sprinkle in some mustard powder and worcestershire sauce into the mixture. It gives the finished mac and cheese a little extra subtle flavour, try it sometime! --Maelwys 19:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Bacon bits make a nice topping for mac & cheese. StuRat 06:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Well this time it's a lot better. I think I should've put more milk and cheese into the cheese sauce, and probably cooked it a bit longer as I can still taste the flour, but still quite nice, a lot less "artificial" than the boxed stuff. Thanks guys (and girls). --antilived 06:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Upper chest injury

Yesterday, I was wrestling with my dad while watching a hockey game, and he got his arms around my chest and managed to squeeze pretty hard to the point where it hurt pretty bad. I know this is not professional medical advice here, but it seems likely that he did something to me around my sternum. Sitting up brings on pain, and I can't breathe deeply without the same pain, which I would describe as somewhat sharp. Yes, I do plan do see a doctor if it continues through tomorrow, but does anyone have any idea what my injury might be? It seems to be completely internal as well.70.51.52.63 02:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Cracked rib? See a doctor to be safe. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.109.222.205 (talk) 02:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Likely just seized up muscles. A good blow to the sternum may help un-seize them. Vranak (not a doctor)

The funny thing with that injury is, that it ends instantaniously. The muscles snap back, and in a split second, you are perfectly healthy again. If it is a cracked rib, a good blow to the sternum is probably not the right form of therapy. ^^

Please do not give such advice. If there is a broken rib, such a blow might cause severe injuries. Edison 18:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Broken ribs can have sharp ends. --Kurt Shaped Box 18:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Whoa whoa whoa, the lesson here is that two sports mixing creates a dangerous reaction. Combining Hockey with wrestling will never end well, just as watching Basketball while playing football will result in many broken vases and rare collectible Frank Sinatra plates. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 19:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Paint my car?

I want to do it myself (the car is worth less than what it would cost to take it to a shop). What kind of sandpaper do I need to use to strip off the old paint? What kind of primer and paint do I use? Is there a web site with instructions? I was unable to find one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shindo9Hikaru (talk • contribs) 03:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

You need more advice than Misplaced Pages can easily provide; please consult a book specifically about car refinishing. Getting a really good paint coat will require either very deft use of spray cans or more-professional spray painting equipment.

Atlant 13:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Experience has shown that even with cans of "professional quality" automotive spray paint and very careful sanding and priming and spray technique, problems such as lower pressure from the can than from a compresser driven spray gun and overspray drifting back onto the surface can leave a dull finish. Brush or roller painting can cover the old paint but are not apt to look very showroom quality. It is easy to paint a car so it is all one selected color, but very hard to get a high luster finish like an automotive paint shop achieves. It is also easy to have sags and runs if the technique is less than perfect. Would you settle for a car that looks ok from 40 feet away? On the other hand, the cans of paint run $8 or so compared to a cool thousand or more for professional painting, so depending on wtah the car is worth there is no one right answer. A couple of friend with professional spray equipment have been able to get a good automotive finish. Edison 18:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Long Distance Powerlines

Where was the first long distance (over 20 miles) transmission of electricity from? I have heard the Folsom Powerhouse to Sacramento, CA and others. Teak the Kiwi 03:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I seem to recall one from Niagara Falls to Buffalo, New York in 1896. According to our article, that was just about 20 miles: Niagara Falls#Impact on industry and commerce. StuRat 06:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

That's my memory as well.

Atlant 13:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I absolutely love questions like this, because there are so many answers, depending on the exact parsing of the question. Telegraphy transmitted electricity about 38 miles from Washington DC to Maltimore MD in 1844, but it was in tiny amounts and intended only for signalling. Low voltage DC does not travel long distances efficiently, so look to early high voltage AC powerlines. "Networks of Power: Electrification in Western Society, 1880-1930 (Softshell Books) by Thomas Parke Hughes, Paperback: 488 pages. Publisher: The Johns Hopkins University Press; Reprint edition (March 1, 1993). Language: English. ISBN-10: 0801846145 ISBN-13: 978-0801846144 is a great sourcebook for the history of electrical transmission. I do not have it handy, but there were European demonstrations of high voltage AC transmission over respectable distance long before the Niagrara project. They were hampered by the lack of a good transformer, and by the lack of a good motor before Tesla's 2 phase induction motor.Electric power transmission says "The first transmission of three-phase alternating current using high voltage took place in 1891 during the international electricity exhibition in Frankfurt. A 25 kV transmission line, approximately 175 kilometers long, connected Lauffen at the Neckar and Frankfurt." It used 25,000 volts per That same site says "1893 Folsom, California; Three-phase, 60 cycle, 11,000 volt alternators installed at plant on American River. Power transmitted 20 miles to Sacramento." I believe there was long distance transmission of single phase AC before this, in Europe the 1880's but do not have the Hughes book handy. says AC was transmitted in 1886 from Cherchi, Italy, to Rome over a distance of 17 miles, and that the first AC power transmission in the U.S. was a 13 mile line in 1889 between the generating station at Willamette Falls in Oregon City, Oregon, and downtown Portland, Oregon. Edison 18:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you everyone! Teak the Kiwi 03:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

recipe for tea cake

what should we do to improve the shelf life of a tea/seed cake? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.56.231.116 (talk) 03:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

1) Use lots of trans fats. That will, of course, shorten the lives of the people who eat it.

2) Irradiate it (for the sterilization effect), once packaged.

3) Make it fat-free, thus preventing the fats from going rancid.

Actually, this isn't at all true. A fat-free seed cake (if it were even possible to make one at home - the fat emulsion is necessary to hold the batter together without commercial emulsifiers) will dry out and become stale and unpalatable long before the fat would have become rancid. Fat-free homemade baked goods have an average shelf life of 24 to 36 hours. A seed cake should last over a week. --Charlene 03:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

4) Use artificial sugars, since microbes can't eat those. StuRat 06:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

If I were a microbe, I'd eat whatever the eff I wanted... V-Man - /_C 01:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Again, sugar helps to retain moistness in the cake and aids in keeping the batter from separating, and in the amounts used in cake baking can actually retard fungal contamination. Microbe infestation and fat rancidity are not why most sweet baked goods spoil; the real enemy is staleness.

To keep your seed cake from going stale, it helps to use the full amount of fat called for in the recipe, to use solid fats such as butter and hard margarine rather than soft margarine, to keep the cake covered (well, of course), and (if possible) to replace one of the eggs with two tablespoons of applesauce. This works better if you're making one of those huge recipes containing 10 eggs. --Charlene 03:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

You seem to assume it will be left sitting out, while I assumed it would be kept in an airtight container to retain moisture. StuRat 05:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

5) Keep it in a sealed, airtight container in the refrigerator (if possible). StuRat 05:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

"Who rides the wrecking ball into our guitars?"

I saw this as a cheat code for Heli Attack 3. I also heard some people say this over various multiplayer games. A search on Misplaced Pages does not bring anything up, and a search on Google brings no lyrics. What is it? Raptor Jesus 05:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

a search on google suggests that it's misheard lyrics from "We Built This City" by Starship. --antilived 06:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

A slight improvement, IMO. Anchoress 07:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Head of international News

What does the head of international news do at a news channel? What are his specific responsibilities?

sibshaSibsha 05:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

how do i found a town?

a group of us live in a county but no city and we want to form a city. how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.198.239.34 (talk • contribs)

So you want to form which? A town or a city? Where? The definition varies according to which country you live in.--Shantavira 08:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Shantavira is right this would be a matter of state law, and would vary from state to state or country to country. Assuming that you are in the USA I would start looking with the office of the secretary of state for your particular state. -Czmtzc 12:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Many hamlets or villages have incorporated in the past, electing a mayor and city council, passing ordinances, hiring a police chief, etc. and then decided it was too expensive and too much bother and given up their status, becoming once again an unincorporated part of the county. Is there an adequate tax base and civic minded people to support a city government? Edison 17:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Based on your IP address, you appear to be in South Carolina. The requirements and procedure for incorporating a municipality are in Title 5 of the SC Code of Laws. Basically, your proposed municipality has to a certain population density and be prepared to offer some municipal services. If you're within 5 miles of another municipality, you usually have to try to get annexed by it before you can incorporate on your own. If you meed all of the criteria and get signatures from 15% of the qualified electors in the proposed municipality, you can get the issue of incorporation on the ballot. Then you have to get a majority to vote in favor. -- Mwalcoff 22:54, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

how do i form a state in the US?

I have moved this question to Humanities Desk for more discussion. You can find it here: Misplaced Pages:Reference_desk/Humanities#how_do_i_form_a_state_in_the_US.3F. --Parker007 15:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Cape Wilson, Australia?

I've seen several times a "Cape Wilson" being mentioned on the internet as an Australian cape; from what I understand it's supposed to be the southern-most point of the Australian mainland. More frequently, however, this point seems to be called "South Point", which is located in the Wilsons Promontory National Park. Oddly, I haven't yet found a page where South Point and Cape Wilson are described as synonyms or so. So is "Cape Wilson" just another name for South Point? If so, why are there two names (specific historical reasons?)? Or is it a "false name" (due to the name of the national park?), a different cape, ...? Thanks, Ibn Battuta 07:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I live in Gippsland, but have never heard of "Cape Wilson" being the name of anything at Wilsons Prom (or anywhere else in Australia for that matter, but I'm no geographer or cartographer). I can't find any google references to an Australian "Cape Wilson". There is an Antarctic "Cape Wilson", which might be in Australian Antarctic Territory, but this has nothing to do with the Australian mainland. If you ask 100 Australians what the most southerly point of the mainland is, 99 would say "Wilson's Promontory". However the link "Continental Extremities of Australia" at South Point makes it clear that Geoscience Australia consider the most southerly point to be South Point, which is a part of Wilsons Promontory National Park. -- JackofOz 05:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

What answer would the other Australian give? --LarryMac 13:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

"No f *** in' idea, mate". Possibly followed by "Why are you asking, are you some kind of poof!", or some equally rude remark. Oh yes, we're definitely a nation of sophisticated vulgarians.  :) JackofOz 06:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I must have mixed up some search parameters--I had found quite a few pages with what I thought was "cape wilson" and Cape York, but I can't find them anymore, so I seem to have messed up big and/or they were referring to the antarctic cape (which I had thought to have taken out of the search, but I don't remember my exact search)... The only page that I still find now says The whole east Coast of Australia, from Cape Wilson to Thursday Island is strewn with the wreckage of ships lost from time to time over a hundred years. ... which may either be plain wrong or refer to any cape along the coast. Thanks for your help, Ibn Battuta 09:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

That text is headed with a reference to August 4, 1907, then proceeds to talk about the wreck of the steamship Gothenburg lost off Bowen on February 24, 1875. This confuses the hell out of me, and I therefore discount the quality of the subsequent text. Maybe it was known as Cape Wilson back then (1875-1907), but maybe it's just an error on the part of the anonymous writer. JackofOz 13:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Cape Wilson, Antarctica is in the part of the continent claimed by New Zealand.

honorary doctorate degree in Humane Letters

What rights and privildges go with such an honor? What kind of regalia is appropriate to wear, if any at all? (cap, gown, hood) I have searched the internet but found no answer.

Thank you

Joseph Joseph0641 09:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Our article on Honorary degrees suggests that the practical use of honorifics (such as "Doctor") is frowned upon in most cultures, allows for postnominal titles (such as in James Fletcher, PhD) only when specified that the title is honorary, and mentions no other benefits. As such, it seems the only "right and priv" here is the pomp and circumstance that go with the conferring of the degree. This pomp and circumstance usually includes the wearing of the appropriate regalia for the conferring ceremony, but it may be considered ostentatious to wear the regalia afterwards, especially if you're just going down to the shops. Jfarber 11:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

As for colors and academic regalia: a quick google search of the name of the degree plus the word "regalia" reveals that the color for the LH.D. degree, which is pretty much only conferred as an honorary degree, is brown. This would be the color of the velvet on the hood; the other coloring (satin) would be that of the conferring institution, usually a two-tone. A doctoral-cut gown would be worn, probably in black (but there is some flexibility here), and with brown velvet piping to reflect the hood. Jfarber 13:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

... though you should keep in mind that this is just US-American (or Anglo-American?) custom (esp. the pomp). Other countries have no gowns etc. at all, neither for honorary degrees nor for others. (And titles are often indicated differently as well, not necessarily as a postnominal title, but for example before the name as "Dr. h. c.":doctor honoris causa = doctor for the cause of honor.) --Ibn Battuta 16:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not just American, or I would have said so; the article specifies the UK, Australia, NZ, and the US as SOME of the places where such honorifics are phrased as mentioned above. But since the querent specified an honorary Doctorate of Humane Letters, which is a degree particular to those countries, and since the gown parameters I mention come to the US via the UK, which is the origin of Aussie and NZ academic standards as well, I stand by my answer as comprehensive, factual, and complete.

Incidentally, it is true that honorifics appear different in other cultures; my sense is that this is partially due to differences of linguistics. The concept of "postnominal" does assume english language conventions, I think, but in cultures where the lingustic convention is to use the title before the name, the point still stands: it's not generally considered in good taste to use honorary academic titles unless you're Ben Franklin. See the related links in our article for some examples of DHC recipients, and recipients of honorary doctorates from, say, China, none of whom ever used their honorifics to the best of my knowledge. The title position relative to the name is therefore moot -- since the title never gets used.

Of course, if you have some solid citation for non-western honoraria that would add value to our article, I'd encourage you to add it. Anecdote, however, isn't going to stand up to Wikistandards.

As for pomp: you're telling me that HONORARY degrees don't come with some sort of fanfare or announcement in "other" countries? Then whyever do they give them out? And why is it that this site lists plenty of ceremony and pomp surrounding degree recipients from China and Brasil, among other places? Jfarber 17:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you somehow feel offended? Just curious. (...) .

As it happens, there are more countries both in the West and beyond it than just English-speaking countries with traditions originating from the UK plus China and Brazil. And yes, anecdotal evidence (relax, I'm not gonna include it into the article!) shows that some countries are less pompous than the ones you've mentioned. I can best compare the US and Germany, and there you can find a wide difference when it comes to "honor stuff" (excuse my wording, but that kinda describes a certain attitude in one of the two countries, I won't tell which one... :o)). That doesn't mean that there aren't some who wish nothing more than to copy the pomp (and don't always stop at wishing). But the differences do exist, and I don't see anything surprising about different countries having different traditions.

As for the Humane Letters, that point goes to you. If such honorary degrees are awarded beyond the countries you've mentioned, at least I don't know about it :o) ... - Goodoh, let's take a deep breath ;o) and enjoy the day (here it's raining, and I'd lie if I wrote "currently"... should I add that I'm about to leave?... :o) ... ). "It's just a wiki", and "It's just raining", and "Enjoy your day because if you don't you'll miss a day of enjoyment"! ;o) --Ibn Battuta 19:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Having reread parts of my earlier entry, I just want to clarify in case it sounded wrong (it did, right?): I didn't mean to say "No other countries have (gowns, pomp, etc.)", but rather "There are other countries which do not (...)" ... Oh, well. And I've had a look at your user page, Jfarber, and something tells me you might not be much so much luckier with the weather... Oh... well. ;o) --Ibn Battuta 19:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, this is getting better and better... and I've seen now that "Anglo-American" seems to be restricted to the UK and the US (I intended to include "British influence", thereby coming much closer to your reply...). Ah well, there is such a deeply fulfilling joy in learning... ;o) --Ibn Battuta 19:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Dialling codes

I have a phone number +1 415 xxx xxxx. Where is this? And how do I dial it from South Africa? Zain Ebrahim 09:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It appears from the format to be a phone number for the San Francisco area of the United States. I don't know how you'd dial it from South Africa though as I'm an American and have never needed to call my home country from outside of its boundaries. Dismas| 09:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Does 09~091 1 xxx xxxx make any sense to you?--droptone 09:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Did you mean 09091 1 415 xxx xxxx? It didn't work. Is there a different international dialling code for each state in the US? Zain Ebrahim 09:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

@ Droptone, did you get that information from this website?

Zain, I've found here that The dialing code to dial out of South Africa is "09" followed by the country code and telephone number (...), so I'd suggest 09 1 415 xxx xxxx. Especially if you want to make a longer call, you may want to check out where from to make that call as prices will probably range widely depending on whether you call from a private phone (using a calling card or not) or a place which offers special fares for international calls, etc.--unfortunately, I don't know what the best offers are in South Africa, but you can probably find that online, too.

BTW, yes, there are different codes within the US, but they're not for entire states, but for "areas" (parts of a state or even just parts of a larger city). As for the 415 code, Area code 415 tells you more. Good luck with your call, Ibn Battuta 10:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

As far as I understand it you would dial 00 1 415 xxx xxxx. 00 is international prefix to dial somewhere outside of S. Africa, 1 is the International Code for the U.S.A. If you are using a calling card however it might be different. 38.112.225.84 10:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

00 1 415 xxx xxxx worked. Thanks a lot, you guys. Zain Ebrahim 10:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Glad it worked! BTW, I've just seen why we've had the differences between "00" and "09": the dialling prefix for international calls made from South Africa will change from 09 to 00. The last date when the "09" was working was 16 January 2007 (source). Sorry about the wrong advice! Best, Ibn Battuta 10:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy to have helped :) --38.112.225.84 11:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I hope you didn't wake them as even right now it's only 5:30 a.m. in San Francisco. Dismas| 12:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Nah. Its a 24 hr support service. Zain Ebrahim 12:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

One small correction: There are a few U.S. states with small populations that have only a single "area code". But most have several. In the case of California, there are at least 20. Marco polo 12:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

... and I was actually thinking that there might be some states with just one area code... yeah, I should've checked! (Apparently even quite a few: Alaska, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming - i.e. 26% + DC!)... :o) --Ibn Battuta 16:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

PS: ... while California is leading with 38 (!) area codes... just to add some more random knowledge ;o) ...--Ibn Battuta 16:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Just few bits of area code trivia:

• Besides the US, country code 1 includes Canada and 15 countries or dependencies in the Caribbean. (Caribbean places usually are in country code 1 if they speak English, but have their own country code starting with 5 if they speak Spanish or another language. There are probably some exceptions to this.)
• The codes were first assigned in 1947, well before direct long-distance dialing was available in most places. At that time all codes that included an entire US state or Canadian province had a middle digit 0. All codes that included only part of a state or province had middle digit 1. This pattern did not persist for very many years.
• Middle digits other than 0 or 1 were not allowed until the 1990s.
• The 15 Caribbean places used to all share area code 809 but now each have their own code. The Dominican Republic got to keep 809.
• Canada's three Arctic territories share one code, 867. Before this code was introduced, different codes from the nearest provinces extended into different areas of the Arctic.
• See North American Numbering Plan for more.

--Anonymous, April 18, 01:26 (UTC).

thanks folks. gina x Gina d82 (talk) 06:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Tektronix Guernsey

Why did Tektronix Guernsey CI close down (before I could get a job there?)

Uhh, it didn't turn out to be the cash cow that Tektronix was hoping for? (Seriously, I don't know. But you probably guessed that already.)

Atlant 17:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the owners spotted a better opportunity elsewhere and mooved on ? StuRat 06:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

They may have herd you were coming and left for greener pastures. V-Man - /_C 01:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Or perhaps the competition was horning in on their business. StuRat 05:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe were was not enough 'scope' for expansion?

countries of the world

There are five united states in the world, what are they? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michellecas (talk • contribs) 15:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

There are a lot more than five according to Misplaced Pages. See here. (Ignore those in italics.) --Shantavira 15:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

If you are asking about countries of the world they are United States of America and Mexican Unites States. See United States (disambiguation). Duomillia 16:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The standard English form of the official name of the second country is "United Mexican States". JackofOz 04:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah! United States (disambiguation) is probably the article that the original poster wants to read. --Anonymous, April 18, 2007, 08:44 (UTC).

holla

1.how much would it cost me to buy like 500 grammes of creatine supplement.and get it shipped to kenya.total cost i would incur is around how much.

2.what was first introduced\invented in 1972 for women who want to look or make themselves beautiful.am not sure if the answer is charlies revlon fragrance

Pong. :) The big inventions that year were the microprocessor, Pong, the TI calculator, the CT scanner, cup noodles, and Pop-Tarts. 'Charlie' was introduced in 1973 according to the Revlon Corporation, which should know. At any rate, perfume doesn't actually make anyone beautiful; it just makes them smell different (and Charlie smells terrible to me). --Charlene 02:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

3.which 80s soul group have a name that sounds the same as a red wild fruit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.160.180 (talk • contribs)

The Cranberries are NOT a soul group. Jfarber 23:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

public domain works of the gov

Are the images below the title of this website public domain?

http://www.eere.energy.gov/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.126.160.180 (talk) 16:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

It seems probable that they are: the copyright notice on the website says that "materials on the EERE website are in the public domain." BUT the probability is not absolute, as the same paragraph also goes on to say that "some materials on this site have been contributed by private individuals, companies, or organizations and include a copyright notice." I see no copyright notice next to those images, but since the images change, it is possible that some are copyrighted, and no one bothered to say so there; due dilligence seems to require that you still contact the webmaster at the EERE before republishing or using the pictures as if they were public domain. Jfarber 17:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

If the images were created by the DOE (and not just a contractor) then they shoudl be PD no matter what. But as Jfarber says you need to confirm that the materials on the site were actually created by the DOE and aren't just being hosted by them. Anything which says "DOE picture" or whatever should be fair game no matter what. --24.147.86.187 23:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I would like to expand on the question a little further. Let's say, for example, that I use the CIA World Factbook as a source. Do I need to cite it by law, even though it's in public domain? I believe somewhere on the official page it mentions "citing CIA World Factbook as a courtesy" or something like that; does that mean I can use it without citing it and citing it is just being polite, or do I have to cite it? Please include the information relevent to US copyright laws. Thanks for the help. --71.117.44.98 02:42, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Every article I can find on Citation or related concepts (such as legal citation, for example) refers to citation as a standard, which is something very different from a law. Each also discusses the various standards relevant to its particular topic and subject area. The legal code which governs fair use and copyright for the US makes no mention of citation standards at all. Thus, I think we can assume the following:

1. There is no legal obligation to cite anything, unless the copyright holder has clearly made such citation or attribution a required parameter of use of that copyrighted material, as in some creative commons citation formats.
2. Since the legal status of works created by government employees as part of their jobs is that of public domain, not of creative commons-esque copyrights, there is no legal obligation to cite those works.
3. However, as our articles on citation make clear, depending on the reason WHY you are using those works, and the format in which you are using those works, your works may not be considered legitimate by the standards of a particular field or arena of material output if you choose not to cite those materials. For example, you might expect that an astute professor with a clear policy about uncited material would fail you for handing in work that used public domain governmental materials without citing them, or that your document might not be eligible for its own copyright protections if it borrows but does not cite. Or that wikipedia editors might delete your photographic or textual additions to a page about the CIA factbook as unattributed (and therefore not valid by Misplaced Pages standards).

In short, then: yes, you can use without citing, but it would definitely limit what you could then do with that final product. Depending on what you wanted to do with that information, it might make your final product illegitimate by a specific community or field-specific standard, and would certainly make it less valid. Hope this helps... Jfarber 17:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

living in Santa fe, New Mexico

Why do people relocate to Santa Fe, New Mexico ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.234.102.110 (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

It's warm there. --ChesterMarcol 20:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

There may be as many reasons for moving to Santa Fe as there are people who have moved there, and it is impossible for us to know them all. For example, a friend of mine moved there to take his dream job. People other than retirees and the independently wealthy tend to move for economic reasons. For example, Santa Fe has a lively arts scene, and many artists have moved to the area to be able to sell their work easily. That said, Santa Fe has attracted many retirees, independently wealthy, and self-employed people who may have been drawn by the dry, moderate climate (though winters can be cold); the scenic beauty and the aesthetics of the town itself; the proximity of activities such as hiking and skiing; the cultural attractions, such as the music and arts scenes; and the relative safety. Marco polo 22:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

And people have heard of it. They aren't likely to move to somewhere like Qiqihar, as very few people have any idea where that is.

I'm sure that plenty of people move to Qiqihar. Just not many Americans. I could have added that Santa Fe is popular among Americans because it does require learning a foreign language and dealing with foreign customs, but that seemed obvious. (For that matter, those few Americans interested in moving to China might not choose Qiqihar, with its January average temperature of -26°C (-15°F)!) On the other hand, there are places in the United States that few people have heard of. But those places do not have the cultural amenities of Santa Fe. Marco polo 12:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, bad example. People aren't going to move to somewhere like Shikmona as very few people have heard of it.

To open up a restaurant? --Maelwys 17:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

April 18

US Subsidize domestic agriculture/manufacturing

How does the decision for the U.S. to subsidize domestic agriculture/manufacturing affect global trade? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.35.222.219 (talk) 04:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC).

I'm aware that the US subsidizes farming through agricultural price supports, but am not aware of any US program to subsidize industry. StuRat 05:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe these two texts might help you along: United States - Subsidies on Upland Cotton and Implementing WTO Rules through Negotiations and Sanctions.

And StuRat, yes, the US has been subsidizing auto and oil industries in the past and aircraft industries only recently, for example. -- Meister 09:15, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Google with search term "US agricultural subsidies" shows news articles about this. The decision certainly generates ill will towards the US amongst Australian farmers.Polypipe Wrangler 03:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Cho Seung-Hui, Isma'il ibn Jafar, and Misplaced Pages

Greetings,

I ran across an article in Yahoo! News, called “Va. Tech gunman writings raised concerns”. An excerpt follows:

“The Washington Post quoted law enforcement sources as saying Cho (Seung-Hui) died with the words ‘Ismail Ax’ in red ink on one of his arms, but they were not sure what that meant.”

No big surprise that the Washington Post wouldn’t delve further into that item. So, ten seconds later, at about 0030Z 18 April, I had located the following on your site:

Misplaced Pages’s find feature first listed: “Ismail bin Jafar, the religious figure of which Ismaili Shiah Muslims follow and are named after.”

This link led to the following:

“Isma'il ibn Jafar (Arabic: إسماعيل بن جعفر, c. 721 CE/103 AH - 755 CE/138AH) was the eldest son of the sixth Shia Imam, Jafar as-Sadiq. To protect him from persecution, his father sent him into hiding and publicly declared him deceased.

As-Sadiq had, at one time, designated his son Isma’il as his successor, but Isma’il died before his father. Isma’il Axe is the name historically given to those closest to Isma’il who protected him in exile. Most Shi’i followers turned to the eldest surviving son of al-Sadiq, Abd-Allah, who claimed a second designation. When Abd-Allah died within weeks without an heir, many turned again to another son of as-Sadiq, Musa al-Kazim. This crisis of succession led to doubts about the true designation of Jafar as-Sadiq and many clung to the original designation of Isma’il and proclaimed the son of Isma’il.

Those who believe that Isma'il was the rightful successor to Jafar are known as Ismailis, while other follwers of Musa Al-Kazim are known as Twelvers. They went on to recognize five more Imams after Musa. The Nizari Ismaili Shias follow a living Imam directly descended from Isma'il ibn Jafar & Ali. Those Imams are the Aga Khans.”

I copied this to a Word document and printed it, but did not take a soft copy of the document with me. So, at about 0230Z 18 April, I went to the same link on your site to create a soft copy of your “on Isma'il ibn Jafar” page and at this point in time, the text had become:

“Isma'il ibn Jafar (Arabic: إسماعيل بن جعفر, c. 721 CE/103 AH - 755 CE/138AH) was the eldest son of the sixth Shia Imam, Jafar as-Sadiq. To protect him from persecution, his father sent him into hiding and publicly declared him deceased.

As-Sadiq had, at one time, designated his son Isma’il as his successor, but Isma’il died before his father. Most Shi’i followers turned to the eldest surviving son of al-Sadiq, Abd-Allah, who claimed a second designation. When Abd-Allah died within weeks without an heir, many turned again to another son of as-Sadiq, Musa al-Kazim. This crisis of succession led to doubts about the true designation of Jafar as-Sadiq and many clung to the original designation of Isma’il and proclaimed the son of Isma’il.

Those who believe that Isma'il was the rightful successor to Jafar are known as Ismailis, while other follwers of Musa Al-Kazim are known as Twelvers. They went on to recognize five more Imams after Musa. The Nizari Ismaili Shias follow a living Imam directly descended from Isma'il ibn Jafar & Ali. Those Imams are the Aga Khans.”

As you see, the relevant sentence was omitted. Peculiarly, the page this is quoted from indicated “This page was last modified 16:46, 21 March 2007.” Gentlemen, I’m not one to subscribe to conspiracy theories, but this is definitely a peculiar occurrence. Please explain to me why this relevant sentence was deleted from your entry on Isma'il ibn Jafar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.3.123 (talk) 05:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC).

Misplaced Pages articles can be edited by anyone, including you. Here is the history of edits to the article. You can go back and find the point at which it changes, and identify the author who changed it. It is not peculiar. It is the way this encyclopedia works. I recommend reading of Misplaced Pages:About. Actually, having checked further, I see it was deleted in the current revision (21:58, 17 April 2007) and the reason given was that the assertion was unsourced. The sentence was first added to the article in the revision as of 17:22, 17 April 2007 (talk). So the assertion lasted on wikiedpia for 4.5 hours. Meanwhle, you might be interested in more speculation on Ismail's Ax on Boing Boing. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Salt on the creature's tail

I've been trying to think of the (mythological?) creature that you can supposedly render immobile if you pour salt on its tail. I remember hearing this tale of the tail when I was a kid but I can't remember what creature it was attributed to. Anyone know? Dismas| 06:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

This and this talk about putting salt on a bird’s tail. And this tells us there was a 1910 movie called "Salt on the Bird’s Tail". JackofOz 06:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

For some reason I thought it was more specific than just "a bird" but then I could be wrong. That would explain though the incident described in the article for Woody Woodpecker. Dismas| 08:15, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

What about an army. Since armies used to be paid in salt, giving them more might be a way to stop them fighting you, and the back of an amry is likely to be a safer place to get to than the front.

You can supposedly kill slugs by pouring salt on them. Tomgreeny 11:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Done that many times. Dismas| 12:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes - that works because of osmosis - the slug's skin is a relatively porous membrane - when you dramatically increase the salt concentration on the outside, all of it's bodily fluids cross the membrane and the poor beast dies of dehydration. But I doubt that's the origin of the story because you have to cover the entire slug - not just it's "tail". SteveBaker 12:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Prevalence of freezing temperatures

Hi

I've asked this question on the science desk, but to no avail, so I'm hoping someone that frequents the misc help desk will know something. I'm looking for some numbers for an introduction about how common temperatures below OC are on Earth. I'd love to be able to say "90% of the Earth's terrestrial environment experiences temperatures lower than 0C each year" or something like that. Does anyone have any insights and/or references about this? Thanks heaps for your help!

Aaadddaaammm 07:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Firstly just some semantics - "Earth's terrestrial environment" can be shortened to "terrestrial environment". Then it would depend what you mean by that. Are you talking about a list of temperatures recorded by all the meteorological stations in the world? Or are you talking about temperatures below the crust (caves etc.) and/or in the atmosphere? What would the cut-off point in height be - the top of Everest? If it's just cities you want, then you would have to source these lists and do the maths. Seasonal variances would come into play as well. I'm sure you appreciate the immensity of this. I would be surprised if such a study already exists. Sandman30s 11:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I would guess they want information about the eaths surface during winter, everywhere that tends to have some time under 0C during an average year. Maps of data like this probably exist, but I wound't expect much information with them. You could work out the percantage by copying the map into an art program and counting how many pixels there are, but this will take hours.

A couple of additional issues. There is a substantial portion of Earth's surface that experiences temperatures below 0°C occasionally, or most years, or even 99 years out of 100, but not "each year". For example, it is conceivable that in a rare year, the temperature in London might never fall below 0°C. It would be unlikely to find a map that shows this datum. Maps generally show climatic means. It might be possible to find a map that shows places with an average annual minimum temperature of 0° or lower. The next issue would be the projection of that map. The method suggested above would work only for a map using an equal-area projection. Marco polo 13:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

If you didn't need an exact number but could be satisfied with a very rough estimate, you could use 50° of latitude as a very rough estimate of a line poleward of which the surface, or near-surface, temperature drops below 0°C in an average year. (Land surface minimum temperatures will drop below 0°C much closer to the Equator, particularly at interior or high-altitude locations, but most of Earth's surface is ocean, and in winter the oceans are much warmer than land masses at the same latitude, such that, in many ocean zones far from land masses, ocean-surface winter minimum temperatures will be somewhat above 0°C even at 50° of latitude.) Unfortunately, it is beyond my math skills to calculate what percentage of Earth's surface is north of 50°N latitude and south of 50°S latitude. Maybe you should try this question at the math desk. Marco polo 19:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

23.4% Algebraist 20:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

(is the proportion of the Earth's surface at >50° latitude) Algebraist 13:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

"Marco polo" must be in Europe. In North America, except for the west coast, 50° is way too far north. --Anon, April 19, 01:05 (UTC).

home cinema and cheap petrol

how do movie companies decide which cinemas to show their films at? If you owned a home cinema (perhaps with a few seats for your friends), would it be possible to screen the latest films?

also, given that petrol in the UK is expensive, and that it's relatively cheap in the US, and that the $/£ exchange rate is very good at the moment, would it be possible or even worthwhile trying to import petrol from the US (assuming, of course, that you have somewhere safe to store it etc)

thanks, Spiggy 08:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any figures to back this up but I doubt very much that you could make it economical on a small scale to import petrol from the U.S. to the UK. All your "profit" would be lost to transportation costs, tariffs, taxes, etc. Dismas| 08:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

thanks Dismas

• If cinemas in Leicester Square, London are anything like other cinemas around the world, it appears they choose what to screen themselves provided they can pay the money it costs to screen the film. - Mgm| 09:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• • Our articles on Film distributor and Movie theater may be of use. --Charlene 09:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

On petrol, the difference in price between the UK and US is entirely due to the taxes in the UK. The price of petrol, before taxes and/or subsidies, is the same worldwide, using current exchange rates. If the pre-tax price of petrol were lower in the US than in the UK, then oil companies would profit by importing US petrol into the UK until the US price rose to UK levels. This does not happen because no one is willing to sell petrol for less in the US than they could get in the UK before taxes. Importing US petrol into the UK and then selling it at the standard price or slightly below, while pocketing the difference instead of paying tax to the UK authorities, would be illegal and could result in very hefty fines or imprisonment. Marco polo 13:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Marco, there are also transportation costs involved. Any company would be more than willing to sell oil to X for $5/barrel less if it means $5/barrel more profit. For example, despite being the world's largest oil importer, the USA is also the world's 15th largest oil exporter. Why? It's cheaper to move oil from Alaska to places like Japan and western Russia than back into the Lower 48. — Lomn 14:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The US does not currently export any crude from Alaska to Japan or anywhere else (we did export up to 7% of Alaskan Crude to Japan and South Korea from 1996-2000 -- but NONE now) - all Alaskan crude comes to the lower 48. All the crude we export - a whopping 22,000 barrels per day (compare 10,000,000 barrels per day imported) -- goes to Canada, and most comes back to us as refined gasoline. All the rest of the exports on the page cites are of refined products - and about a third of that is petroleum coke, the dregs of refining, most of which goes to Mexico. . Cheers Geologyguy 15:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

You are right that I left out transportation costs. This is why Alaskan oil goes to Seattle and not to Japan: because Seattle is closer and it is cheaper to transport there. Because transport costs are lower, profits are greater on Alaskan oil at the port of Seattle than they would be on comparable oil shipped from Indonesia or the Middle East. Whereas the differential is not as great in Japanese ports. Transport costs largely explain where oil from a given source ends up. Marco polo 15:44, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The actual price of petrol in the UK is largely tax. A typical price today would be 92 or 93 pence per litre, of which Fuel Duty (which is imposed the moment the fuel leaves the refinery, or in your hypothetical situation, at the port) is 51.52p/litre for unleaded petrol (48.35p/l for ultra-low sulphur or sulphur-free petrol, 57.68p/l for leaded petrol); don't forget that VAT at 17.5% is charged on the Fuel Duty as well as on the rest of the price of the fuel. On top of the tax, extraction costs, transport to the UK and refinery costs will typically add 27 or 28p (+17.5% tax) to the price. Then there's the retailers' profit margin, and the cost of transporting the stuff from the refinery to the filling station, which is the part of the price where there's much variability - it's more economical to use a 30,000 litre fuel tanker than a 20,000 litre one, but the price will still tend to increase the further away you get from the refineries. -- Arwel (talk) 19:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Can anyone tell me the location of the most northerly refinery in the UK please.--88.110.160.179 13:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

If you are more familiar with the UK than I, you can perhaps determine this from here. Cheers Geologyguy 20:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

As the list supplied by Geologyguy indicates, it's Grangemouth, just north of Edinburgh. Although each refinery is shown as owned by one (or occasionally two) oil companies, in practice all of them will draw from all refineries, with slight variations in the formulation of their fuel to suit their marketing strategies although in truth all fuel of a particular technical standard is much of a muchness. -- Arwel (talk) 21:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

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How would I go about creating a new email adress, as well as the one I already have. I want to use them both for different things, so different people can contact me in different ways. Is there any way I can do this just using Internet Explorer as the rest of my internet access had stopped working for a while.~ ~ ~ ~

Yes, you can create a free email address that you only need Internet Explorer for (or any other web browser). The two most popular ones are Yahoo and Hotmail. Yahoo is far better IMHO. Just go to Yahoo or Hotmail and sign up. --Richardrj 09:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I signed up to Hotmail as none of my choices of email adress were left on yahoo.

It's your call, of course, but in my view you'd be better off with a yahoo account and a username you're not 100% happy with, rather than a Hotmail account and a username you like. Yahoo has a simpler, cleaner interface, better spam and virus protection, fewer annoying ads and integration with all of Yahoo's other services. The capacity is the same on both - 1GB. Why don't you open one of each, try sending a couple of emails to yourself and see which one you like best. I'm betting it'll be Yahoo (and no, I don't work for them!). --Richardrj 12:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll send you a Gmail invitation if you want a Google mail address. Dismas| 12:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Gmail is probably the best one yet. It has alot of space, good virius protecton, etc. I love it more than yahoo or hotmail, so far.

Agree that Gmail seems to have the most street cred and functionality. Also, I'd not recommend Hotmail, since this report last month, in which a company looking for "expert Internet users" automatically deleted any email queries from Hotmail accounts on the grounds that "You can't pretend being an internet expert and use a Hotmail account at the same time." In other words, Warning: using a Hotmail address may be seen as a sign of technological n00biness. Jfarber 13:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Chalk up another agreement that Gmail is superior. For my own experience, I've found Hotmail to be rather reliable (providing one's address is kept safe) in terms of avoiding spam; only recently have I begun being disappointed in certain flaws about it (read the article The Rape of Lucrece). I've had my current Hotmail address for around seven years now, but would gladly transfer all the contact information and saved e-mails to my Gmail account if I had the time and patience to figure out how to do it. V-Man - /_C 01:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Car brake lights

Why are the car brake lights always red and not someother colour?

Well, to be universally intelligible, they all had to be some one colour ;-). And red, probably because it is the colour of fire (or at least, burning coals) has always been associated with "danger!", "stop!", etc.

Red also has the handy characteristic of not damaging your night vision so it makes the best choice for tail lights/brake lights.

Atlant 13:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The Misplaced Pages entry on Automotive lighting has a lot of information and links to various laws and standards. Brake lights are red because laws governing automotive safety and construction require them to be red. Now, why was red picked? I think Atlant is probably on to something. The references in Automotive lighting may also help with that. - Eron 13:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Red is also 'nature's' classic danger colour because of blood being red, and as humans are one of nature's creatures, we respond strongly to that colour (this hippy dippy answer was brought to you by Perry-mankster 14:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC) peace man)

surely red should mean the car is going as red means hot and engines are hot when they are working. So then break lights should be blue as engines are cold when they have stopped. or it could be red as the breaks get hot when the car is stopping. This is rather confusing, whoever invented it should have organised colour coding better.

Well what would you have picked? I can't see what would be any better than red. It's a strong colour that is easy to see even when the sun is shining brightly, unlike many others, and as mentioned above, doesn't blind you at night. It's the perfect colour for brake lights. --Alex16zx 14:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Red is commonly used in traffic signs and lights. Stoplights and stop signs are both red. Red is the color used to mean 'stop'Ipmin 15:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

also red light has the shortest wave length, ergo is least likely to be 'scattered'(defused/dimmed) by air molecules, exhust fumes, fog etc Perry-mankster 15:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, "longest", but your main point is correct ;-); colors towards blue are far more strongly scattered by rain, snow, fog, etc.

Atlant 16:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

thanks Atlant, answer done in a hurry, should have thought it thru first;-)Perry-mankster 09:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

One obvious thing is that they can't be white - you need to know whether another vehicle is coming towards you or going away. Your headlights need to be both bright and as much like natural daylight as possible because you use them to see with - so white makes sense. For tail lights and indicators, the desire is not to dazzle the person behind you - yet still to be visible from a reasonable distance. I suspect this convention dates back to ships, trains and horse-drawn carriages - it's surely a lot older than the automobile. Hence the decision to use red may not have been a particularly well-thought-out scientific thing. SteveBaker 12:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not from ships. but a ship shows navigation lights for about 135 degrees on either side of its bow; red for the port side of the ship and green for the starboard side. Under certain circumstances, they may show a white stern light while moving or a 360-degree white "riding light" when standing still or at anchor.

Atlant 13:02, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

hotel rates

What sort of rates can I expect at common types of hotels?Ipmin 14:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Where? City, country... they vary wildly from place to place. - Eron 14:40, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

In the Western United States.Ipmin 14:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Even then, the variance is huge. Cities are generally more expensive. Weekends and weekdays may vary. The quality of hotel will drastically affect rates. Why not check out either generic travel websites or specific hotel chain sites and do some sample pricing? At a rough guess, though, anywhere from $30 to $200 a night could fall under "common". — Lomn 14:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Lomn. With those caveats, my experience is that you can expect to pay about $100 a night for a decent room in a decent hotel in a decent neighbourhood. You can get rooms for $50 or less, but for the most part these will be lesser quality rooms at lesser quality hotels in worse neighbourhoods. At the other end of the scale, the sky is the limit. - Eron 14:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

$100 is what you will pay for a decent room in a budget hotel in major U.S. cities, such as San Francisco, Los Angeles, Denver, or Seattle. At a more standard business traveler's hotel, such as a Sheraton, you would pay more like $180 in a major metropolitan area. On the other hand, you can have a perfectly decent room in a budget motel, such as EconoLodge, near a freeway at the edge of a metropolitan area, for around $60. Marco polo 15:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Since you said USA, there are also these which may offer a lower per-day rate, but typically assume you will stay for about a week or so. Also Category:Hotel_types has a few things to say, but it looks a tad incomplete. HTH. dr.ef.tymac 17:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Las Vegas is an exception to the normal pricing structure. Since they assume that guests will blow a lot of cash at their casinos, many casino hotels will offer rooms at rather low rates to lure the suckers customer in. So, you might be able to find a nice weekday room for $30 a night, with a good special. StuRat 04:55, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

The regular rate or the special, secret wikipedia rate? Clarityfiend 18:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Let me add to this that the price of a hotel room has very little relation to its quality. The price mostly depends on location (downtown versus suburb) and add-on services such as concierge, indoor swimming pool etc. If you don't care about location and add-ons, you can save a lot of money. Most $50 hotels have the same quality standards as $200 hotels. Chl 17:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

US ARMY M1 CARBINE

HOW MANY ROUNDS IN A CARBINES CLIP...AAALIBRIS

According to the entry for M1 Garand rifle, eight. - Eron 22:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

But you asked about the M1 Carbine, didn't you? It was magazine-fed (didn't use a clip) and the magazine capacity was fifteen. - Eron 22:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The article says 15 or 30, actually. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 01:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

From what I read, 30 was for the M2 version, so I didn't include that. As to what the original question wanted, I'm still not sure. M1 carbines used magazines but M1 rifles had a fixed internal magazine that was loaded by means of eight-round clips. I think the desired answer is somewhere in there between the two entries. - Eron 02:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

The op probably meant Magazine (firearms), as that article explains in the opening paragraph, they are commonly and incorrectly referred to as Clip (ammunition). Vespine 01:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I want to go to Somaliland (Part 2)

So I've found a round trip ticket from Luton to Istanbul for $300. And a sub $300 ticket from Istanbul to Yemen. But I still can't get the cost of going to London down. How do I get a cheap summer fare from LAX to London? I see that Expedia advertises London rates before May 31 for $400 something but the cheapest summer flight I can find is $950. lots of issues | leave me a message 22:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

A cheap summer fare from the US to Europe?! Good luck. That's when everyone wants to go, so the airlines charge what the market will bear. I would suggest trying for a last-minute ticket, which can be cheap because the airline wants to fill the seat. But in summer, there are few unsold seats, and you could end up missing your connection in Luton. Marco polo 01:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

For this reason, it may be cheaper to fly directly from the US to a hub in the Middle East (e.g. Dubai), rather than via London or anywhere else in Europe, as I suggested last time you asked. Marco polo 13:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Priceline? Corvus cornix 16:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

If I remember correctly flying to Dublin is much cheaper then flying to London, You can get raynair flights for as little as 1c ex. taxes and charges each way from Dublin to Luton, just watch out for extra baggage and insurance charges if you don't actually need them. Ken 20:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks everyone. And thank you ken for telling me about Ryanair. I can save $50 flying to Dublin and then Luton--and it's probably easier! lots of issues | leave me a message 09:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

April 19

kenya

who knows a popular kenyan figure who met his wife while running for office

A number of senior Kenyan politicians have multiple wives, some of whom were married during their political careers. See Vice-President of Kenya and President of Kenya for a few of them. Rockpocket 06:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

After you win the trivia contest, will you be sharing your winnings with us?

Atlant 12:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

i always share the loot with my buddies by donating part of my bounty otherwise how will i eat tomorrow and the next day.but still i havent gotten the answer.the link still hasnt been of much help.

I'm sorry thats not helfpul, but without more information we cannot be more specific, as as least three of the people in those lists match you description. Rockpocket 17:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Another handwriting question

What is the nature and extent of the link between handwriting and nationality? I've noticed that many North Americans' handwriting is very similar; it's hard to describe, but it looks italic and cursive. Anecdotally, many French people's handwriting also seems to have similar characteristics. In Britain, handwriting styles seem to vary a lot more. I guess this might have something to do with the way handwriting is taught in schools. Anyone else noticed what I'm talking about? --Richardrj 08:28, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I certainly have. A number of European-born friends (Germany, Russia, Yugoslavia) of mine seem to have a similar distinctive handwriting, quite unlike that of people from other parts of the world. JackofOz 08:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

North America is a big place. What kind of writing are you referring to? English Alphabet--Kirby♥time 08:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I know it's a big place. If I could find an example image file, I'd post it here. I'm just saying that some North Americans' (Americans and Canadians) handwriting is recognisable as being by someone from that part of the world. The same applies to other nationalities, I think. --Richardrj 09:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Richardrj, and I suspect it's the template that elementary school teachers use to teach handwriting. Anchoress 09:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

hi richard i think it may have something to do with 'fashion' of the time, i remember that at primary school, in the early eighties, nearly everyone espically girls, started writting in a 'bubble' style of writing, curvey and not 'joined up'this was opposite to the style taught, rigid, 'joined up' writing, i think it was due to a bubble like font used in teen magazines but i could be wrong - sorry the area i live in is east coast scotland, but i have noticed this type of writing at uni, in other area's of scotland again, predominatley females using itPerry-mankster 09:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

You're quite right Perry, that's another aspect I hadn't thought of - how handwriting differs by gender. I know exactly the style you are talking about, and you're right it's an exclusively female thing - very rounded letters, circles rather than dots over the i, and so on. --Richardrj 12:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

It's absolutely NOT an exclusively female thing. It's not as common in males, but it's definitely there. That having been said, in teenagers certainly handwriting is very recognisable by gender, and if I may say so, by generation too. All my great-grandparents' friends, my grandparents' friends, and my parents' friends had handwriting that looked the same. A lot of my friends have similar penmanship too (I don't say handwriting because it went out of style in favour of a kind of loopy lettering during my generation). Anchoress 22:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

or, (any given detiy) forbid little love hearts above their i's...--Perry-mankster 12:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Ramen to that!

Atlant 15:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC) (whose cursive handwriting is probably unintelligible to everyone on the planet, even him!)

I think Anchoress is probably correct that handwriting studies in the US at least are pretty standardized, or at least they were when I was in school. --24.147.86.187 22:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

market planning

1. discuss factors affecting marketing planning 2. discuss key players in market planning

• Please read the instructions at the top of the page. These questions are too general and sound very much like homework. - Mgm| 08:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

market planning

players in market planning

How about Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, or maybe Ben Bernanke? disclaimer:I've never taken any type of economics class and do not know what I'm talking about.

Market planning is very different from marketing planning. Marco polo 13:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

planning marketing

factors affecting marketing planning

I've heard rumor of some sort of invisible hand being a factor...

Books could be written on this subject, and have been, most of them rather boring. For example, there is the newly published Marketing Management: A Strategic Decision-Making Approach by John W. Mullins. You will find this, and many others like it, at your local business school library or on Amazon.com. Marco polo 13:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Percent deaths by race

What is the percent of people by race who have died for America in war? 71.100.175.14 12:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Which war? The percentage of casualties by race will have changed dramatically over time, as the racial make-up of the US has changed and as the military forces have changed their policies regarding who can and cannot serve in combat roles. For example, I would guess that the percentage of military Civil War casualties who were of African descent would be significantly smaller than the same statistic calculated for the Vietnam War. - Eron 12:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Air conditioners

Where is a good source for free info on air conditioners?129.112.109.252 13:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

What type of information are you looking for? Air conditioner would be a good start, of course. --LarryMac 13:55, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Did you want reviews of available models? Info on how they function? What type of free info were you looking for? If you'd like reviews, and you're in the U.S., there is a magazine called Consumer Reports that is published monthly. They do a lot of tests on various household items and rate them. I would think that they have reviewed air conditioners before, probably very recently with spring in the air, and you should be able to find some good reviews there. Back issues should be available at your local library. Dismas| 19:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

They also have a significant portion of their archives online. While their site requires a monthly subscription, they have a one-month free trial available. You might consider using that, too. — Lomn 19:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Small caliber cannons on elephants.

In the Wiki article about war elephants, someone makes a passing mention of culverins having been mounted to war-elephant mahouts at one time or another. I have searched and searched databases and journals to the extent of my ability to do so, and absolutely nowhere have I found an account of whether or not this was even possible, let alone a description of its actually having been implemented.

Can someone direct me to a reliable source that might describe the use of cannons on elephants, or a debate as to whether or not this ever could have occurred?

The general consensus among my peers is that it was never used or even possible, but I haven't yet read a peer-reviewed article on the subject.

67.8.42.116 17:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)Ken

I remember reading in one of my college history books that someone once tried very unsuccessfully to try that, I think it may have been the Persian empire but I'm not sure about that.Ken 20:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

flights

If i were to randomly go to detroit airport on a weekday sometime in june and ask around the desks what is the likelihood i could get a flight to new york laguardia (return for 2/3 days later). Being from england i dont know how busy flights tend to be over there. Would the cost of buying a ticket at the airport be cheaper or more expensive than buying online. Dont worry no exact figures nesecarry, just trying to figure out what ill do seeing as i most likely wont know a firm date ill be going, untill maybe day or two before i go if that makes sense. Rickystrapp 17:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any data on how busy flights are, but some quick research on Expedia indicates that there are only two airlines that fly non-stop from Detroit to LaGuardia, Northwest and American. If you were willing to fly to JFK, Delta would be added to the list. Two of the US low-cost carriers, Airtran and Southwest, have service in Detroit, but no direct flights to New York. My gut feeling is that using an internet travel site would be less time-consuming and cheaper than buying at the airport. --LarryMac 18:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

You can expect to pay many times more if trying to get a last minute flight, unless you fly "standby", meaning you go on the next available flight (when some of the seats are empty because not everyone showed up). If I were you, I'd make online reservations for the last date you may have to leave, and just spend any extra days in Detroit. You can go to the Ren Cen, eat at the revolving restaurant and see Windsor, Ontario across the Detroit River. Then you can go to the Henry Ford Museum, check out the Rosa Parks bus, the chair in which Lincoln was assassinated, the limo in which Kennedy was assassinated (as well as all the other presidential limos), an IMAX film, etc. Go to the Detroit Institute of Arts and check out the Diego Rivera mural. Go to the Detroit Film Theatre and see an obscure foreign film. Then go to the Detroit Science Center: . Let me know if you need any more ideas. StuRat 21:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Why is an entry 'redirected' to another entry of the same name?

Hi, I'm looking at the People magazine entry and I noticed that under the title of the article, it says "Redirected from People magazine." When I click on the other entry I noticed that the information is not the same as that of the first entry?

Thank you.

This should probably be asked at Misplaced Pages:Help Desk, but I'll try to explain it to you. You're talking about the article at People (magazine). You searched for People magazine, which is redirected to the People (magazine) article. This is a convenience for users, and it lets people look for things in Misplaced Pages which might be known by more than one name. If you click on the link to go back to the "People magazine" page, you see a "Redirect" command, which tells the software which runs Misplaced Pages to just keep on going to the page in the "Redirect" link. Corvus cornix 18:27, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

As for why the article is named "People (magazine)" and not "People magazine" it's because the actual name of the magazine is just simply "People". If you go to People you'll see that the page is about humans. You, me, everybody. There are also many things that are referred to by the word "People" so to disambiguate between them, words are often put in parentheses to seperate them. The words in parentheses aren't meant to be read as the actual name of that thing, just as a means to tell one from the other. Dismas| 19:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

And disambiguation (disambiguation) disambiguates disambiguation.--Shantavira 19:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Managerial accounting: treatment, prevention and discouragement of "freebie abuse"

Can someone relay to me the formal name and treatment of "freebie abuse"? Suppose you are a customer of the local photocopy shop for example. You may notice there are "free" paperclips and tape and other incidental items for customers. Obviously, their use is predicated on the fact that you are a paying customer, but what if customers went crazy and started using more than a "reasonable amount" of these incidental items? Im looking for general treatment of this issue, especially as it relates to small businesses that sometimes offer "special conveniences" to distinguish themselves and please customers. NoClutter 19:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds to me like a specific case of the tragedy of the commons. I don't know that any treatment for the propensity to abuse "free" resources has been found; this page would suggest that none has so far. - Eron 20:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Architecture

What is the current training required, current courses available to students,local institutions wich offer appropriate training and the nature, length and cost of such training in South Africa?

If you are actually interested in this then you would be much better off actually asking one of the institutions. It shouldn't be hard to find a higher learning institute in south africa and they usually have course councellors and things like web sites and open days which are designed to inform people about exactly the kind of things you are asking. Vespine 00:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

3 questions

1. What is the song you hear in the background of advertisements for Fox's new show, Drive?

2. I keep hearing a song on the radio but can't figure out what it is. It's about Alice in Wonderland and has the lyrics "remember... what the doorman said... and ...and the white night". That's about all I can remember.

Sounds like Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit to me. - Eron 20:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

3. There was a music video filmed in Butte, Montana about twenty years ago that was about the mines being closed. It had the name "Down the River" or "Sold Down the River" or something like that. I know that the band was British and that supposedly they liked the story about Butte and the mining because it reminded them of their hometown.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, --69.51.87.130 20:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

For #2, it sounds like White Rabbit (song), a quite old song by the Jefferson Airplane. It is dormouse, not "doorman", and white knight. --LarryMac 20:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I actually knew that it was white "knight", but I spelled it wrong. --Captain Wikify 20:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

For #3, "Sold me down the River," by The Alarm. The video was filmed I think at the Anselmo Mine in Butte. Cheers Geologyguy 23:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Logic: Identity of indiscernibles (two objects possessing the exact same properties are one and the same?)

This is a question about the Identity of indiscernibles article in wikipedia. Does a "property" (or "predicate") of an object include its position in space and time? If not, how are there not objects which have the same properties but aren't one and the same (eg. 2 elementary particles). If so, then isn't the only relevent property of an object its position in space and time? 67.70.29.221 20:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

But then you'd be excluding non-physical objects. Recury 20:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

World map of flags

I am looking for a world map with flags overlayed onto each respective country. Basically, I want the images at right, but for all countries on the same map, rather than individually. If anyone knows of an image like this, that would be greatly appreciated. If you know how to edit pictures, it would be fantastic if you could make one for me. Thanks!!! Reywas92 21:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the skills to do what you want but I thought I'd mention something. How big did you want this map to be? The reason I ask is that for countries like Liechtenstein, you could have something as small as a single pixel or if you wanted to actually be able to tell that there was a flag with different colors there, you would need to blow the image up so far that even a mid-sized country like Germany would be absolutely huge! Not to mention the bigger countries such as China, the U.S., Canada, or Brazil. Dismas| 21:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I found this - according to the program's site, "Advanced formatting options are easily accessible as each country (or any section of the map) can be customized with different label, background and fill options. Here country backgrounds are set to flag images and label sizes and formatting customized." --Ali 21:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't really care about the size; smaller countries will just be unseen. Ali, your link seems to be great, but what is already made is only Europe. I could probably do that. Thanks! Reywas92 22:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC) Oh wait, I have to download it and such. That won't work. Reywas92 23:16, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Conjugal Visits

I don't even know if I'm posting this in the right spot, so if I'm not, I'm truely sorry. I have a question about Conjugal visits. Why is it that only 6 states allow them? I would think they would work well in a lot more states. Just curious and if anyone has the answer please let me know.

MommaRyan 21:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC) -- (copied in from Village Pump) - Tony Fox (arf!) 22:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Something to do with prison being meant as a deterrent & punishment. Vranak

Facebook

Is it possible to join Facebook so that you can see other people's pages at your school but not have a page of your own at all? I'd occasionally like to see what people put about themselves but I don't want a page of my own of any sort. Just curious. --140.247.10.155 22:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages reference desk

Hi, I was wondering what sort of qualifications are necessary to help staff the reference desk. Thanks,

Casey 208.140.9.250 23:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)sunlizard

No qualifications needed. This is totally volunteer. --Fastfission 23:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

A desire to help answer questions. We are working on some guidelines, however they are not fully established yet. Feel free to jump in! --LarryMac 23:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Patience, spare time, courtesy and a sense of humour help:) Vespine 23:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Time on your hands, hands (or other methods of typing), and a few neurons that have been used recently. Clarityfiend 00:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Ontario colleges

Which Ontario colleges served history course?

Image of unknown army voucher

I found and scanned an interesting note, but I do not even know where to start looking to find an appropriate article for it. Can it be identified and dated? J Are you green? 23:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I think this could very well be a BAF-a British Army Forces voucher, issued during the period 1945-1958 for the use of soldiers stationed in Germany. Have a look at item two here Clio the Muse 23:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

April 20

TO THE PRESIDENT OF FARNCE JAQUES CHIRAC

April 19 2007 hermosillo sonora mexico

TO THE PRESIDENT OF FRANCE   JAQUES CHIRAC 

By the letter, i ask you ,to .pleace, sendme help of any can to .by interpol or by the france embassy ..to .gat defens me ., leagal way .by the law ..in united states ..as show in the demand letter add.., .and ask to state department of united ,states .prop all ..and do send the file records ofme to united nations ..to they helpme on this ., , and this way be out of the problem ..here or help..fater possible , to gat new york city ..pleace sednme the help to ,here in mexico., because I have problems ..and I coud not doing noithing more in mexico ………………..thanks for your time………….

Yours sinserily

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Realestateadviser99@hotmail.com

011 52 662 1039179 Fax 011 52 662 2136130

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April 10 2007 hermosillo sonora mexico

TO THE FROANCE PRESIDENT JAUQES CHIRAC

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Yours sinserily

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APRIL 3 2007 Hermosillo Sonora Mexico

TO THE LAWYER LIKE THIS CASE

   By the following letter, I explain to you, in Spanish in the attached letter, and I hope you like it. I explain you that today I considered adding a new amount, to the demand WHERE I ASK FOR MY INDEMNITATION MONEY. AFTER UNITES STATES USED MY IDEAS ON WAR AND PUTED ME IN DANGER HERE AND MADE ME LOSE THIS MONEY, FAMILY BUSSINES. I OFFERED THE LAWYER 10% OF THIS, THAT WITH MY CONTACTS IN WASHINGTON COULD BE POSSIBLE, REALY FAST, IN 2 YEARS POSSIBLE ...and it is $400.000.000  millions dollars because the spies delay all so hard, and I need this money not at long terms but soon, because I will charge all what Washington with their spies made lose. Here in the past, and it is $900.000.000 millions dollars that I should approximately make out of advising in the past, without the American contacts, powerful people from the States, that tried  to have me in adoption back in 1967, and .it is 3 times, with their help with this money because I could double on stokes.

Now I salute you and Thanks You for letting me fight what the law will say on court, if they like it or in agreement with the State Department some way. And this spies, will understand, this way, not to scare my lawyers, I explain this to you now, because they don’t understand that the top command is not a pirate island. They are what the law says and when this comments gat the top like now is only what the law says, not what spies say. Tell them that we will only do what the law says, and without hurting you or hurting any Governments side, in nothing that it is only money and if they have the way to pay me only if the law accords to it.

Thank You for your time

By the following letter, i would like you to know that what i have studied in the past, degree, is a secret and I ask you not to inform My father since he is old now and I need to deal just with a lawyer for this concern of America, since I am not protected with international amnesty and they will act only if the luck is against me. Today Washington brings me green light since it has not given me other choice, and nothing happens, and to get it over with extra officially for this. I do not want my father o worry, because it could cause him some damage.

Even tough and necessary I have informed both government and presidents USA and México by letters from 5 thousand pages on a file of my own that I corroborated with 72 assessorial the most important one the ones that helped the nuclear war and some corporations either Mexican or North American, to take care of me, by police supervising if necessary with the CIA headquarters. And the Pentagon and the staff from the White house and international press Even thought some North American agents recommended me, to interpose a request of indemnification, to North American state, and so I did, to get an extra official indemnification while they approve what I advised, and they give me another king of political protection that I requested. Since it is a long process them to accept because everything is been slowed for old national security reasons and it has to be made this way and its classified from 1 to 10, and the embassy only accept some sort of stuff, nevertheless in the headquarters of the pentagon, in the office of the secretary of defense or the presidential office if it is important to defend me, or to offer me help. If they let you know who I am by my profile and in the department of foreign matters of the white house exists this official profile even though it is disqualified and not accepted publicly they do it extra officially while they disqualify but I got farther than them to fasten this whole process since logistic was my idea and it is my personal life and I even reserve copyright for an exclusive for a book in the future and do not let anyone else write it unless they pay me. And I had the right to do it because, as an expert I have waited 27 years of the first time and 11 of the last one and it is just old information that even it is old it has got its own rules and it is a whole process to make it officially and maybe only at a court they will make it while they disqualify. And that is what I am looking forward, once the indemnification is on, I would hire a lawyer to make the process faster since it is a slow process and they will have to arrest some people if necessary and with an arrangement is better, since i already made the and with an arrangement it is less since I did already not only made the denounced in the supreme court of justice of USA and internal matters in the department of state but I am willing to get to the legal consequences and I already did it, when informing to the corporations as well as the supreme court of North American justice and internal matters to protect myself and international amnesty and I know I will get my indemnification sooner or later, but with a lawyer this process is faster, easier and confidential if they come to an arrangement secretly with me since political protection is all opened and this way the investigation demand will still working. They will indemnify for the consequences only for the war and what I have advised but it takes like 3 years and with a lawyer it might even take 1 year, but my contacts and whole i need money it would be because of legal damages that their spies have done to me as well as hostile socialistic edicts from which I defended them and that for negligence did not help me or for consequences of war but I deserve an indemnification at least of 20 % of what I lost on having interfered in the above mentioned cold war and they can not deny it on court …for my connections and for that would be a crime whom nobody would risk for having knowledge of this and always they would lose it and for the quantity of years in which I interfere in it they would end up in jail you see how law works up there they never fail and because of the number of evidences they exist on that matter and witnesses of other countries up to hostile Russian of them and many more and if I would tell you what have they done to defend myself you would be interested in immediately but I need to speak with you and that you, if is you wish it, I verify several things but it is better if I do it with you lawyer friend nevertheless they are 20 million dollars that would be gained in this. And there is some other situation that this people have created, all those that I defended in the cold war and that have even gotten to serious consequences that Washington will send them to jail for some other reasons sooner or later. Because I use to advise the higher level, the North American commander to presidential level and the director of C.I.A to feed a database and everything what this people is trying to do is being known. And they have sent them to prison for other reasons and they have liars that introduce money to scare people, but this is the only truth and North American law will let them know about it when this is stand and until there you will know the truth sooner than if you waited what will be given by the states the claim since they have even sent war planes. . But i lost things and I need to interpose now with lawyers this indemnification request by cold war’s consequence, in wish USA has evolved me by using ideas of logistic of international I send them and Nuclear security, in the 80´s, to split my self from accusing nobody since they are already investigating them, for all of they are trying to do and its stealing identities and some other things as they are agents out of control who not only damaged myself but they are looking all those who are either creating or trying to create or have created a serious security problem for USA and they are being followed because they try to fake identities to charge budgets and they are even demanding the F.B.I and some other corporations. Has I explain in the declarations before and from wish I could not speak, but they had they have searched since something they would come and hurt me and trying to fake my identity and some other staff and the higher command found out about them, and every time they know i was going to USA some agents would try to fake my identity, and even trying to be me , advising as I use to do and they would control them sometimes and they never stopped the investigation and Washington today wants to end this up. And i, as one of the affected ones for all this since they would obstacle my founts of money and business for me not to leave the country or the USA east since its been a decade since I quite all of this 3 years later from the cold war in wish I got evolved and from what I was not allowed to speak during the dangerous because what had advised was rough and complicated to threat. And they offered me money trough another way but I want this indemnification to recover something now I can speak not like before I had to remain quiet, today interposed as a demand and indemnification request to the department of state and the department of North American internal matters as well as the department of justice of USA en Washington DC is quite different and that order the international press to defend myself , without being really necessary since North American presidential part is by my side and law as well since I have the right of an indemnification since they can not demand themselves to help me for indemnification and justify an arrangement of an account of money from $200..000.000 millions dlls that I demanded for all the damage I received from helping them wish is not really much for all the people I advised and wish account I have already studied to get if as soon as possible since they made me lose like .$600.000.000 in real states and $400.000.000 in fabrics and stock exchange and international marketing, of some other business that I made and they accept since they are my friends. The thing is they cant protest and this short explanation I am giving you will give you an idea of the reason of everything, but remain calmed because that is the was Washington is and it was a long time ago (1979 to 1996) and Washington has sent war planes to overview, but I have informed to the government that is on my side even thought they are informed from the embassy on Washington and the American in México D.F, in where you can ask about this anytime bun in Washington is only accepted if a particular does it since is classified by a 10 and they only give information if is it used to protect me in any way. Here they would inform the government and the president about the plains but they know the reason why are they flying by, and they will protect me and some interest of the embassy if you would like to ask them about it as a reference since I need to put interpose the demand of indemnification in USA not in México and this situation takes time to be assimilated, and that is the way it is and they have done it to overview the area, because USA in an important commercial associate, as you may already know, he buys all the oil and has arrangements respecting the plains whish intimidate some Mexican jackals and international bands and I have no relation with it but I need the indemnification while I get the political protection in 3 years as a refugee with bodyguards or I keep that money for myself. From this other way is better and should have arranged a long time ago, since it looks that is the way it should be to end this whole thing over with, to try to help me and then they would help me in real stares and some other things, like political protection.

Thank You

Sincerely

JUAN CARLOS ROBLES GUERRA

Email: Realestatesadv9@hotmail.com

Mobil 66 2 1039179 Fax 662 2136130

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APRIL 3 2007 hermosillo sonorea mexico

to the editor to know who and how did stop the nuclear war .............

this letter are tape very fast under preshure ..in danger ...and they are not ok.. and if you sendme the letters ..back in perfect english ..i will thanks you ...any way

TO YOU GAT ENTER WHO AND HOW DID STOP THE NUCLEAR WAR AND PLEACE , DO SEND TO THE NEWS THE 9 ESTRATAGYS ..I SPLAIN OF DIPLOMATIC ..I DID ADVISE TO US GOBERMENTS …........

       by the letter, i splain you.,   that ..to understud prop.. hipra file X99....that it is the 72 estrategys .on geopolitics of control...i did advise to the president ..and the, secretary of defens ...C.IA. director ., in the past...from 1979 to 1996 ..you need to ..see old . the.  Most.. inportant , news ..at that time.about nuclear peace..agreemntes .and convetional war ...how was under control ....prop...you need to see ...with ...6. months before ..the estrategy.apear in the news...and   between ..6. months to  .. 1.5  ..year,  afther the estrategy .was use ..by united estates....side country and did apear in the news..and afther that watsh the world wide news to see how did change all.....ON POLITICS WORLD WIDE…AND HOW DID HELP ....to you know ..and uderstud ., how did work on politics international...and control nuclear war .....and afther that you will find , that it were , the only way out ,,safe fast..of the problem ...of nuclear war and comunist advance ..with the less deths possible ..comparate,  with sides,  estratagys..it shoud be ..that normal use ., of  goberments...the last 30 years at that time...to safe 40 % lifes....and  between  15 to 25 years of more war ., between thouse countrys...that they are ex..soviet union..china , and , united estates ..and england....and europe alies ..nato ...and all you need,  to know it is.. star from the news… at from.. 1970.   to 1978 ..news world wide ..to check how help..and afther match that .you need to star to watsh thouse news afther 1979 .....afther each of the  advise from the 76 estratagys ...HIPA X99  ..and star with ..the advise of the kids in paris....france .. 6 months before and.. 1.5  years later ...the most inportant in world news.. and you will know ...wat i did.. and like it bether.....and understud ..that with that estrategy .only we fix.. the world ..and end the nuclear war ..possibible with soviets and china...for shure...and that without , only of one of thouse.. estrategys .from the 72...it supost to   dealy ..the peace world wide.. and the nuclear war ...peace agreemnets.. if you put out.. more ..than one like 2 or 5  .you will find that dealy more and if you put out  10 of thouse advise ...you dealy 25  years of war.. on foreing countrys ..and the risck ..of nuclear war ....by terrorist atack ..or acident and eader because out of control..by invade sides countrys but less possible...eader and consider ..like the new book.,  who apear..on 2005  . to  the public sade ..by a terrorist atack ..were the end of human race ..like the book name ..sade .,  memorial day..or more where splain how ., terrorist have planes.. of give lessons.. to powerfull coutrys ..and it coud be the risck..ogf a small nuclear bomb steal from the arcenal or home ,made... eader  some acident ..concider....but the terroris atack by.. a steal weapon from the 30,000 that exist ..in the arsenal ..world wide..of thouse countrys..we was in a very danger planet...and were the only way.. fast out.of the  problem ......and   because of that ., i use the contact of thouse mans ....that  i find lisentme...who control politicly , and economicly united estates ..that for reasons ,|of denstiny.. star to lisentme ..back late ..seventys ...i use that... to stop that problem.. by give them... the best idea..of  .how to do it... because  by the espetial T.V. they ..techme all ...or i watsh...by ,my self...and understud....all the bigest problem of earth....and my self...never splain nothing ..than take adbantage.. of that they was lisentme...to use it in the nuclear war......i thouhgth at the begin.. that only coud be some..time ...and some  estrategys..only that it shoud lisentme . but they decide gat to the end... the  problem ..of nuclear war possible  24 hors a day...365 day a year... ...i realy like it ...but i was ...scare here in this small city ,of mexico,  watshing how thouse powerfull mans lisentme...withoiut uderstud why they lisentme at the side of have they oun estratagy....like desper situation.... and wished..not.. move.. not eaven a finger ..from here...to not invader them..in nothing... utill they lisentme........and thats all

i sade ...thanks to god they lisent me..because they., late me.. know.. who danger were., and concider that no coutry have., at that time, the way out , prop...i help that way...and wish ..of be out ..and learn how to have... a life with the problem ..that shudent exist ..for no reason...in our sivilitations... ...but they did ., and that no countrys, did have, at that time.. a realy way ..top stop .it...the rockets ., wen they sopost to be on the way ..of estrike ..because from 10.. they coud stop ..3 possible ...or less ..our defent sistem did not work prop... at that time... like it were ...suicide ..and realy scare me.....i think.. at that time. that ..wen i finish the job it coud be time ..to do money and ., have a life...and be .. OK.. to survive ..utill that ..have to eat ..only to finish... like some can of fanatic ..ecologys ..ideallist., peace maker..who take control...of the world...with the aloud ..to do it .....and hold all ...prop..the most possible.. against .all ods..for more hard it were ....without.. remeber... belivet or not ...because someone ..perturb my mind.. or only.. never remeber.. that somone ..did trie ..to have me.. in adoption ..wen i were a kid...back in 1967 in mexico city..and only

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PAR ELE EDITOR FAVOR DE MANDAR ESTO ALAS NOTICIAS

LUEGO TRADUCIRLO Y .MANDARMELO A ESTE CORREO

TO THE EDITOR

PLEACE SEND THIS TEO THE NEWS

NUM 1 ONE ..IN THE LIST …I NEED IN TH ENEWS IS IS NOT POSSIBLE THE 8 ESTRATEGIES

I DID ADVISE ALL THIS TO GOBERMENTS OF UNITED ESTATES FROM 1979 TO 1996 …PLEACE SEND IT TO THE NEWS..

NUM 1 INTERNET DISCONECT ..

I advise disconnect …internet ..and use it to sivilean porpuse……

If not possible afther ..disconect use it for sivilain porpoise…as I did advise…

THIS NUMBER 2 .. Negotiate with leoned bresnev ..gat out of afganistan ..and we put out.. the revels..from C.I.A and they did ..as a sade….

NUM 3 ..

2  : i did advise that the americans austraunauts ,gat the mirk station in space orvit way , to soviets and americans star a new era of exanche ,of sience , to cut the war , and live , thigs separ,.. devide them that way and less danger of a war betwen thouse., countrys, and to stop rumors ,that soviets was suport terrorist against united estates and , thouse sides be out of world wide suport.....at that time wen thouse rumors was taking and wen sides , and the negotiation of the leadercheap of united estates at the nuclear leavel was in danger by any straike against west, countrys at that time...and that way add in danger the convertations of nuclear war rokets, disconet, peace ageemnets ., at that time ......

THIS IS NUMBER 4

1:                by the sumer 1979 i did advise , that 2  americans kids and 2 soviets kids , shoud send to a neutral country to star , as a god wish of thouse countrys , to star , the convertations of nuclear peace again , afther they was interupt because the invation of afganistan, and they did send the kids to paris france....

THIS NUMBER 5 4 : i did adbvise for france.. that they do cahnge the law and ask for visa and pastport to any who want to gat in france, to stop terrorist and keap france safeand the president of france did , prop at that time , and chanfge the law there and no longer it is aceptable that any gat there without pastport since that time, and that way keap secoure of strikes france beter and , the hurt of west who gilt soviets , of train them , out of the problem , secure the side for west , and not stop for no reason , the , beat of west some way...

THIS IS NUMBER 6

6  : i did advise that yaser arafat need to be invited to united estates to fix problems with israel , and west countrys to star a new way of tallk with palestinians, that way.....and clinton administration did that and invited him....to star , a secure , of hurt , west , some way , beter and venefits to palestinian.,

NUMBER 7

 i advise that it need to be a computer who unser any call of emergency in united estates ,from any pay phone.   to they have a veter way of stop terrorist , and crime in a time that were nesesalily and they did . the  911 emergenci number

and that way they abort many things and was ready to hold , prop terrorist strike , against america..and nothing warming the west wish , with thouse strikes , and be more secoure

NUMBER 7

i did advise that yaser arafat need to be invited to united estates to fix problems with israel , and west countrys to star a new way of tallk with palestinians, that way.....and clinton administration did that and invited him....to star , a secure , of hurt , west , some way , beter and venefits to palestinian.,

NUMBER 8

8 : i advise the novel of peace , to president federik declerk , and president mandela at that time, to hurt sides against peace and ageements , to do estable the area , of diamonds of england and keap the south emisphere secoure..at africa for shure.........

NUMBER 9

9: i did advise the nafta agriment back in 1984 to ronal reagan , and only 4 years later they coud did

AFTHER

EACH OF THE 76 ESTRATEGYES WEN WAS POSSIBLE I DID ADVISE NEGOTIATE WEN WE HAVE TIME SOF CALM BETWEEN SOVIETS AND THE OLD COULD WAR ……..

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TO TE EDITOR .

 Por medio de la presente , yo , les esplicare ..la vida de un..analista de diplomatico ..y de guerra....norteamericano,  que actuo..como .. asesor presidencial norteamericano, adjunto ..en un maximo secreto ..para situaciones ..de emergencia nuclear ..y que ayudo mucho en la guerra nuclear ., .a estados unidos ...ya  que ..influyo mucho , en lo mas . importante...en sus .relaciones internacionales ..de su pollitica exterior., el la guerra fria., .. al lograr, que los paises an disputa suaran sus ideas., y  acueredos que muchos soñaban nadamas.  .Y ser escuchado , por los hombres,  mas poderosos del mundo ..los cuales,  adoptaban sus ideas,  para sacar , al pais,  delante , de la guerra nuclear, ., y que por aber ..sido posible ,  hijo adoptipo ., de una importante familia , norteamericana .,se incorporo,  a un programa experimental , que fue un éxito .y .como analista de guerra noreteamericano , y diplomatico ..en estrategias internacionales , al alimentar una base de datos..en Washington.,d.c. desde Arizona..y ,mexico ..secretamente ., y   que usaban los expresidentes ..de estados unidos , por sus grandes ideas.,  que ayudaron,  mucho ala seguridad nuclear,  de estados unidos …y que por,  lo cual,  les,  cuento , hoy la historia de cómo enpeso ., y que el gobierno , ..de jeamy carter ..ronald reagan ..george buch padre ..y algo William clinton …escucharon y usaron sus . ideas., en geopolitica internacional ..anticomunista y antinuclear ., y de la manera que ellos lo hicieron de 1979 a 1996 ., 

Y para que usted ., adiera esto a mi expediente ., que ya le e mandado ., si es que usted no tiene esta esplicaion .aun.,.para que se adiera a mi expediente ., …… Todo enpeso ., a finales delos años , cuarentas, aproximadamente ., en 1948 .cuando un tio, de nombre …Jesús robles Toyos .hoy en dia finado ., .obtubo un trabajo., en nueva york., ..en el consulado de mexico, en esa ciudad ., y trabajo con su amigo ., intimo , el sr ..consul ...de apellido ..hill..y que después de hacer , relaciones.. en muchas fiestas, de sociedad, adonde la enbajada , era invitada ., ..y el con su amigo ., el primer diplomatico .,a cargo del consulado ., conocieron muchas mujeres ..hermosas ., y sus ..parejas., de las cuales , se hicieron amigo ..y a, gente importantísima ., de nueva york., y ., del., el este., de estados unidos ., que controlan , economica ., y políticamente estados unidos ..en ese entonces, y de esa., manera..aparte.. después de relacionarse., con ..ellos lso ..equipòs de seguridad norteamericanos .. los ., siguieron frecuentando ..para ver donde encajaban , en su vida .de ellos., .y se investigaba ., su trayectoria diplomatica ., y al hacer declaraciones., mi tio aveses ..muy liberales ..a veses., el equipo anticomunista de estados unidos ., lo ivestigo., y al final de la ..investigacion dieron ..y encontraron . una familia normal ..de mexico pro norteamericana., ..en donde abia., un doctor.,,mi padre., y un jues federal ., mexicano ., hermanos ..de mi tio..y nadamas.. y mi tio… Jesús., que ..despues de una larga temporada ..en estados uniodos decidio ..al final irse ....a trabajar ..al banco obrero.. de el gobierno de mexico ..como director., y renuncio ., a su carrera diplomatica., después de., estar 3 años , en nueva york., ., ya que mexico le acentaba, mejor ., pero sus amigos, le saludaban aveses ..desde, por aya ., por telefono y por correspondencia ., y sus amores., que dejo..y paso el resto., de su vida en mexico , ..asta su muerte ..en enero de 1998..alos 82 años , de edad., y al trabajar ,.. en la enbajada ..el obtenia a veses ..la atención , del gobierno y el equipo anticomunista, norteamericano., ya que le gustaba hacer , declaraciones controversiales.,pues abia trabajado , en sindicatos, y se iba , ido .a , trabajar a un banco del gobierno , controlado por esos sindicatos , y se le abian, infiltrado algunos paises, a , mexico con ideas comunistas., nada de que preocuparse..y a veses ..platicaba bastante , con el equipo anticomuniusta , norteamericano , el cual lo vigilaba ..por rasones de seguridad., .y por estar, el serca de el alto comando mexicano ., del cual era amigo …y ser amigo de gente tan influyente .. tanto del gobierno de mexico como ..de la , .de la enbajada, ..y los cuales …al pasar los años ...dieron con migo ..,y supieron de mi ..y los cuales dieron, con migo ..por medio ..,de equipos ..alfa ..cuando yo.. nasi ..ya que eran amigos de mi tio…en 1962 ..y vieron, un prospecto ..para sus actividades., de seguridad.. por gustarme., las películas .,de espias., y de politica internacional ., y ..ya que., mi tio., tenia ., diferencias, con algunos mexicanos..ya en el poder ., ya que sus intimos amigos ., no abian llegado, o el no calificaba ..para la cadidatura ..de puestos altos politicos, y los americanos ., en programas de reclutamiento ..que tienen , buscaron., otra opcion , en la familia., para el futuro ..que con el tiempo ., me iba ., a convertir , el un asesor muy importante, del presidente de estados unidos, en el futuro….y ya ..que mi madre ,..Reveca Guerra ..de Robles ....al quererse .. diborciar, de mi padre ….Jose Adan Robles Toyos., en 1967., en platicas con esos americanos ..una de las familias amigas de mi tio., al mi padre sugerirle ..trataron de darme en adopción.,..y llebarme ., alos estados unidos ..pero al verme ., infeliz, por separarme , de mis padres , originales., decidieron ., no hacerme sufrir ., y al final ..me quede, en mexico ..estudiando ..muchas cosas.. que, al ellos, medir , el coecficiente intelectual ..me Salio muy alto…en el knder garden ,en donde me hicieron., una prueba., y decidieron.. a enseñarme .muchas cosas , de politica y seguridad ..con metodos ., muy modernos ..como la televisión.,.. y que aunque, usted no lo crea ..entre a un programa especial del pentagono , en que el presidente, de estados unidos ., usaria .. las ideas..en una emergencia ..internacional ..en el futuro., después de analisarlas, una otras personas , y una computadora., por ser las mejores .. ..desde muy joben ., alos 17 años de edad., y que , enpese ., a apreander , y ser protegido ., de ellos ..alos 6 años, de edad.,.. y que dicho programa..de estados unidos secreto ..

los militares tenian ., por aya en entrenar ..mentes pribiligiadas. De,  alto coeficiente intelectual ., y ya que las ideas mias, encajaban mas con la central de inteligecia ....americana ..C.I.A.. Y me ensesñaron ..lo que era la ..politica internacional ..de estados unidos.,  y del mundo entero .,incluyendo, estudia alos enemigos de estados unidos .. los paises socialistas., y al yo.. tener un coeficiente de 137 .era muy alto ..ya que el normal ..es de 94 ..y que calificaba para asesorar al , alto , comando …estadosunidense ..en emegrgencias ..internacionales.,  aun asi eran.,  las ideas, ecepcionales ,  y la logistica, ..y los conocimientos ..que me abian enseñado.,  los que iba a triunfar..en el futuro ..y me iban ., abrir camino , ala odisea ., de asesorar al presidente , mas poderoso del mundo .,  y al tratar de ser adoptado .,  por una de las familias mas poderosas del mundo ., y de esa manera ., quede.,   bien.,  recomendado ..para dicho proyecto.,  y por mis ideas.,  me aceparon ..y llegue al nivel mas alto ..de estados unidos ..como asesor .presidencial ..nortemaricano ..adjunto ., secreto ..para la logistica antinuclear y anticomunista ., de la politica exterior de estados unidos .,.de los años 1979 ..en la que ise la primera después de que notaba que le gustaban mis ideas al ex presidente, demócrata .. jeamy carter …y les di la primera logistica ..antinuclear..

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Por medio, de la presente , ago de su conocimiento .de .como, en el pasado , en la decada de los setentas., unas compañias muy importantes , de hollywood ..hicieron y ..filmaron, libretos . y , unas ordenes , especiales ..para hacer películas, y series , de televisión ., e incluso hoy en dia., ..pedidas ..por , el gobierno, federal ., y de sectores muy, poderosos., del sector privado, norteamericano., y que el gobierno , que utiliso , en, aquel entonces , para ..enseñar , gente ..y para divertirlos., alaves., y que el pueblo norteamericano y otros ., se diera cuanta , de cosas, que de otra forma ,es difícil ..hacer entender.. o de esta forma es mas facil..y de esa manera., hicieron muchas para mi , ..unas especiales , y otras para otras personas., y , de las cuales , yo disfrutaba, a , mi antojo..asta en los horarios ..que yo queria., en la decada de los setentas., y asta traducidas al español. , Totalmente., algunas , y otras , en ingles..nadamas., como 90 series de televisión, con muchos capitulos, y películas de acion, y . politica y policiacas , y de espionaje., y otras secuencias , que tenia que aprender ..para desarrollar, un personalidad especial, y para el entretenimiento ., y asta para dquirir aun , que mi familia ya., lo tenia ., el american estile of life., y de otros paises., tanto demócratas como socialistas ., y asi ., apreder muchas cosas.,y eventos , que suceden, en este mundo ..contemporaneo ..y , que me ayudaron, mucho a conocer , mucho , la politica internacional ., y que en un futuro, en ese entoceces me, llebarian ., a ser uno., de los asesores presideciales ..mas importantes., ..en seguridad anticomunista , y antinuclear ., de estados unidos ., y me enseñaron tambien ., una repetición de lo que aprendia en la escuela y otra mas amplia ..de la historia, universal , de este mundo ., tamto en el arte como nuestra cultura y lo que somos como sociedad ., en sus ..5000 ..años . de hostoria desde los principios de la civilización con forma de gobierno ..asta ..los dias de hoy., ., y de esa amenra, me forge una ..real ..imagen de lo que somos y necesitamos ., y una manera de pensar., de lo que , eramos y pudiesemos ser , como mundo .osea sociología ., con ese metodo nobedosisimo ..ya que la televisión avia alcansado ..los mejores estandars de ..como funcional medio de comunicaron ., .y que el gobierno usa para dicho fin..de enseñar., y ., que con el timepo ., aunada ., a otros medios de enseñanza especial ..me ayudaron., a forgarme mucas cosas y que en el futuro ..me aytudo a ser una sesor ..muy influyente , de estados unidos ..y occidente .,en geoplolitica de control…y de lo cual le mandare, si usted lo desesa. Parte de , mi expediente .,si es que lo necesita tener., para mas referencias de mi., y si esta interesado., en lo que le esplico., y es buscar alas personas ., quienes ., isieron, esas películas , de politica internacional y espias., y series de televisión., pues me gustaria ..platicar con ellso ., para pedirles ayuda ., en buscar alos que las ordenaron ya que ..son un poco difíciles de encontrar ., y también ..quisiera que les abisara ., y me ayudara ., a pasarle el recado ., a los dueños ., de esas compañias..de cine.. de hollywood., ..pues q deseo platicar, con ellos al respecto ., y tambien para unos derechos reservados ., , y si me ., contesta estos.. e mails,..y me ayuda ., aun asi ., ellos son , lso dueños de compañias como., warner brothers y universal ..y otras., y me gustaria si usted me ayudara ., a contactarlos, y ala ves, encontrar contratos por aya para ..alguna , actriz ..o como .,usted , al decirles quien soy ..yo alude mucho en la guerra nuclear< y los que ordenaron esos libretos le podrian pagar a ustedes asi ., y si no ., los derechos reserbados ., mios de esta historia., Y tambien , explicar como., fue todo ..y de esa manera , pedirle ayuda alos que me enseñaron , muchas cosas., y aparte ..conseguir., algunos contatos ., para ustedes o para otras parsonas ..ya que e visto mucha veses como lo hacen, para asta austar ., y detener amis enemigos ., y creo que les podrian ayudar ..siu ustedes me ayudan a contactarlos., ya que no saven bien que necesito ..o al menos eso parese., pues la guerra fria me a dejado aislado de ellos y nunca e podido ..ir asaludarlos aunque agan aun que usted no lo cra las series para mi y siertas películas con ese fin., y que de esa manera me ayuden a contactar , alos del sector pribado ., que influyo., en que en , las series de televisión se hicieran, episodios especiales ..y películas., para mi ..nadamas .., como algunos que le mencionare ..y que son ..la película ., ..the cocacola kid…..the especialist ..con sharon stone.,.. y episodios como el de la familia patctrish .en los etentas ., .y .haway ..5.0 ..y el hobre que costo 6 millones de dolares., y que le esplicare, cuando sted me conteste ., ..y me ayude a., contactar., a los directores ., de estas compañias., y sus ..dueños ..al explicarles., esta historia ., y , yo se que la atenderan ..pues son muy buenos ..y ellos ayudaron mucho ..y les entreguo mi expediente por este medio ..para que lo tengan ., ..y ademas, les diga., si pueden ., me ayuden a encontrar ., a los que me., quisieron., adoptar ., en el pasado, y que., son los que ordenaron., esas series de televisión ., que aveses ., era para entretenerme nadamas …………. Y de seguro, los que hay oy en dia ., conocen ..a esas personas ., y que nunca pude contactar ..directamente ., pero se quienes pueden ser ., ya que quede., en manos del gobierno., y en una guerra ..y ., quisas ., era mejor asi ., y que le esplicare ., que hoy en dia ..nesesito contactar ., para que me ayuden a llegar a nueva york ., en donde contractate a otros invesrcionistas ., muy difíciles de ver., y que solo por aya ..se podria., ver aciendo una cita., y que controlan hoy en dia la economia, en muchos aspectos .,de estados unidos ., y el gobierno no me a ayudado ..muco ya que estan trabajandoi en una indemisacion mia ..y no pueden por el momento., y que me, an ofrecido, la manera., de salir ., de mexico y ayudarme en algunos negocios ., por., aya i recuperar ., mi fortuna ., ya que son muy ricos., y unos negocios., que me an ., ofrecido y que no puedo hacer desd mexico ..ya que., e estado bajo ataque ., de asta falcifiucadores., de identidad., y personas., que nadamas., quieren sacar provecho ,de mi., y que aunque usted ., no lo crea., no e podido ., ver ., mas que indirectamente., por la guerra fria., y algunos, de ellos., me., ofrecieron., ayuda., pero tengo., que llegar a nueva york., primero , ya que es difícil , verlos., y los filtros que estan entre..ellos y , yo les ., an echo pensar., mentiras quisas o no tienen tiempo., y ..como , no, quiero ir mas que ..simplemente a saludarlos., ya que yo ise otra vida aquí .,en el suroeste ..al asesorar al presidente desde aquí todos esos años.-, ..en esa guerra .., y nunca se lo avia pedido ., a., nadiey que quisas por lo cual se comunican asi conmigo., pèro que pensaba ir cuando la guerra me dejara ., y cualdo teminara un trabajo de aquí aradicar para aya ..el resto de mi vida., ya que practicamete.. me secuestro., esta , situación aquí..en mexicio y ya me canse., y ., por una., tecnologías., que me quieren robar., unos agentes ., abisiosos .,y ..no me an dejado , en paz…ir a saludar., y por que cuando era ., asesor ., pero no fui por rasones que les esplicare ..suted no mas contactelos y y lameme., …y no aga caso mas que lo que le digan ellos., y después le esplicare mas detalles …por otra parte ., y de esta manera ..en lo que es., casi como una , de esas ., películas de .misterio ..de hollywood ..en la que ., el enemigo., en muchos años ., no me a dejado ., contactar ala familia ..adoptiba..ni verla., y que., me quiso adoptar ., y por el pasado ., por lo que me involucre ., ya que ., era muy., peligroso., ver a cualquier persona pues ., era muy pequeño para hacerlo ., y quisas ..devido., al ataque ., de tanto comunista ., pero la guerra, fria., ya acabo ..y hoy en dia., no hay nada .., de que temer ., y que le esplicare cuando .,. me escriba ..y usted tiene ., hoy en dia referencias., que la prensa tiene., , tambien ., y que de esa manera ., usted puede hablar con ellos ya que yo se los ise ..saver y lo desclasifique pues es mi vida., ya no boy a hacer nada en mexico., y que secretamente tube., siempre desesos ., de irme ., para los estados unidos ., pero no podia por lo secreto de la misión ..y por un sabotaje ami partida de grupos que no quiero mencinar mas y ..que nadamas deseo ir para aya ., y hacer familia ., y que ., la prensa , tiene el expediente., y ya no ay problema explicar quien fui., y que tarde ., que temprano., ba a sacar ..al aire ya que es la verdad ., y no se puede negar ., y., por que, alguien, trato de falcificar , mi identidad., y las autoridades , me lo sugerieron. Y hoy , en dia los ., trato., de contactar ., por medio de esas ., compañias atraves de ustedes., y ya que hay dinero., en esto nadamas, y les ..aseguro como esclusiba , y derechos reserbados .., mi historia ..para esas compañias., .y pues ..en 1999..y desde 1983 ., algunas familias ,,importantes de estados unidos ., me ofrecieron ayuda economica.tambien ..pues saven de mi ., pero tengo que ir para aya ., y al criminales ., que trataron de falcificar mi., identidad.,. se me iso necesario ., y necesito vivir por aya., en nueva york nadamas., un tiempo., y arreglar., algunas cosas -.de mi trabajo …y de ,lo que ise ., y aparte salir., de una situación., que crearon ., unos agentes ..de antes ., y que hoy. en dia quieren., hacer otros., y es inpocible ., ya que esta ves ya esplique quin soy y rompi el silencio ., y es ., que lo quierian ., es sacar provecho de mi …nadamas., teniendome aquí ..y que era.. por culpa., de la guerra de mi confidencialidad y esos agentes ., y por custiones ., de la tecnología ., que luego les., esplicare., y le pido .de esta manera contacte a esos ., .prodoctores ., de esas comañias.y de las mas que pudiesen ser ya que no se como se llamaban en ese entonces., , y al contactarlas., le pido , les esplique., que necesito platicar ., con los que hicieron esas ordenes ., de las ., películas ., como ., el episodio de la familia ., pactrich ..en ddonde ..le compran ., ala señora ., que canta ., un piso con lalarma ..un novio que tiene …al yo querer tener uno ., y que me ensesñaron., que no sirben muy bien ., ay que ., suenan ..muco ., ., y el episodio de haway ..5 0. en donde hay., un secuestrador ., que es malcriado con su mama .., y que se lo ., dice una viejita para regañarme., que no fuera ..yo malo con la mia., ya que andaba ..malcriado ., en ese entonces en 1974 aproximadamente ., alos 12 años de edad., y agunos., mas que luego le , contare, y las películas antes mencionadas. Y que ., alos cuales yo., les able mas que de esa manera ., por rasones de seguridad., y que luego le esplicare ..y que quede.. en manos ., del gobierno ., desde 1974..mas o menos.., y dichos episodios ..son ..de esa epoca ..y las películas ..the cocacola kid ..de lo ochentas., el especialista ..de los años noventas …con sharon stone ..esta aultima y algunas películas echas solo por elk gobierno ..,..aun que hay muchas mas..que luego le esplicare.., tambien .y que deseo advertirle ., que hay gentes., que estan ., obsesionadas ., en robarme., una tecnología que nunca., podre desaroyar., en ningun lugar que no sea., estados unidos., y secretamente., con militares., .. y que es para medicinas., y que.. invetntan muchas., cosas., para tenerme aquí ., en mexicio..,m creyendo que se la pueden robar ., y que necesito.. ayuda., para llegar a nueva york .., ya que el gobierno., mientras, me da , la ciudadania americana., y el refugio politicio ., que les pedi ..y una indemnización ., que tramite....ban a tardar…en ayudarme., y necesito ayuda., de otro sector ., para llegar alos, estados uniodos ., y arreglar algunos ., problemas , como vender unos terrenos indestriales , que tengo en mexico , de los cuales les mandare copia., tambien ., y otros negocios ………………..muchas gracias …….

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EACH OF THE 76 ESTRATEGYES WEN WAS POSSIBLE I DID ADVISE NEGOTIATE WEN WE HAVE TIME SOF CALM BETWEEN SOVIETS AND THE OLD COULD WAR ……..

Frebuary ..5 2007 hermosillo sonora mexico ……….

To the records

Por el medio , de la presente, le esplico, a, usted que ..yo asesore y sugeri ..alos gobiernos ..de estados unidos ..y alos., sovieticos ., desconectar ..y desactibar ., los missiles nucleares ., y negociar .,en la guerra nuclear ..y desconectar los coetes nucleares …entre sovieticos y americanso y chinos…después, de que la logistica surtia efecto ..y creaba un clima de paz momentanea en la que se podia negociar ..des de 1981 a 1989 ..aproximadamente ..en unas 8 o mas ocaciones ..cuando veia que era el momento ., de negociar . y que no se sentian ..amenazados ., y .no estaban ..en ese momento muy ., comprometidos , con las rasones de seguridad ..nacional., tactico militar nuclear en geopolitica ..contraria ..de sus paises., y que mi estrategia resolbia ..cada dos años de logistica mas o menos ..dentro de ese periodo., y que tenian en aquel entonces ..como potencias nucleares ., y al no setirse ., tácticamente amenasados .en su geopolitica .. mundial., de sus equipos de seguridad nuclear ..y ellos ., coperaron..y negociaron .platicas de paz…,y cuando., les . con la logistica., creaba ..ese clima de paz..de guerra convencional ..yq constantemente interrumpia la guerra convencional en donde sus rasones de seguridad ..en geopolitica las impedía., y la situación mas.. o menos menos tensa., en esa amenaza tactica ..militar ..se disminuia ., y abia una atmosfera ..mas tranquila., al preparárselas,..deliberadamente ..todos esos años para ver si asi ..se podia como una esperansa que se fue haciendo mas fuerte cada dia mas y mas.. durante la decada de los ochentas., y de esa manera ., asi ..les dije ..y asesoraba..en esas ocaciones en las que calculaba se podrian poner de acuerdo sin las ..diferencias en dichos paises ..y las banderas representadas ..en esos paises aunque no tubiensen ya un apoyo directo de esos apises ..pero si la bandera comunista algunos enfrentamnientos de reveldes que en algunos paises usaban la bandera comunista ..y al crear ese clima de paz..para ver si tenia remedio cosa que se aprobecho al grupos de esos paises apoyar ..mios sugerencias y aprovechar..dicos momentos en que en la decada de los ochentas ..abia., espacios de calma ..de la guerra convencional ..que mi logistica hipra x99 iba creando poco a poco ..diariamente., todos esos años ..desde 1979 asta 1990..y de esa ., manera ., ..ala ves .les decia..y asesoraba ..este es el momento ..negocien en este momento., ahorita ..

..que se puede cada ves que abia una calma, y espacios que se podian aprobechar ..en ese renglón ..pero creanme no era facil y ..casi era un intento fallido en mis animos ya que la guerra convencional me desanimaba ..aun asi sichos paises no olvidaban ..y sabian bien aprobechar ..y hacerlo y lo logramos gracias ala decisión de esos presidentes de esos apises.. de aprobechar algo que desde mi punto de vista como asesor casi era inpocible de hacer ..pero nunca de je de hacerle la luca en esos momentos pesnsando que quisas era la unica oportunidad ..de salir del problema casi sin aliento pero nesesamente se los decia y asesoraba ..en esas ocaciones y afortunadamente salio poco apococ perop Salimos de esa citiacion tan ..peligrosa que no tenia remedio facial y que en mis temores ..existia que se retrasara tantos años que ni siquiera quedaran ganas de seguir y que quisas alguien mas lo podria hacer en el futuro ..y con cansancio se los asesoraba  y les deicia ..hoy en este momento pueden tratar de desconectar …..al en esas lagunas la guerra convencional que afectaba a 154 paises de los 27 mas afectados y de los entre 8 y 12 que abia en guerra ..donde se disputabas.las partes ..en donde abia enpesado una guerra debido a excesos de dioctadores y ., y regimenes que usaban una bandera y otra y que esos paises ..a veses finaciaban y aveses no pero se abanderaban con lso sistemas politicos en disputa ..mundial de la hosa y el martillo y la democracia mundial ….que al final salio triunfadora ..pero que en momentos de calma ..se podia dajar a un lado ..dichoas rasones de amenasa tacticogeopolitica militar …y que el cansancio mental a veses no me dejaba ver que tanto la iban aprobechar aun asi continuaba ..ya que era joben ..y me gustaba darle batalla ala ., ignominia y el Apocalipsis que pdria generarse y aque se me escuchaba y mientras estubieran esciuchando aun que me costara la vida y mi fortuna los seguiria haciendo sta que no se me escuchaara mas o que mis fuerzas me pudieran ayudar ..y que la guerra convencional dejara o yo con ..HIPRA X99  la desactibara lo mas posible para crear esos momentos de paz momentanea …y de los cuales les  mencionare algunos casos par que esten infomados ..bien ., 

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April 19 2007 hermosillo sonora mexico

TO THE PRESIDENT OF FRANCE JAQUES CHIRAC

BY THE LETTER I SALUTE YOU AND SPLIAN YOU A SITUATION THAT IT IS THE VETHER FORME CONCIDERATE THAT ..I DID WORK ALL READY AMY YEARS …………

    BY THE, LETTER, I ,AKS YOU, TO SPLAIN ,ANY SIDE, THAT,. I NEED MY MONEY FORTUNE BACK ,  NOT A JOB ..THAT IM OVER EXPOUCE,  AND TIRE,  AND I ONLY , NEED , FAMILY NOW., AND THIS  BECAUSE HERE ARE GRUPS THAT LIKEME ., IN   A JOB ,  TO GIVE THEM FAME AT ANY COST ,  AND I DONT NEED .,  ECEPT ,  THIS THE INDEMNITATION MONEY AND HELP TO GAT NEW YORK…

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July 25 2006 hermosillo sonora mexico

Letter equicment..

TO THE PRESIDENT

                by the letter,  i do splain, you that very soon ,i will send to you the letter where , i , will splian more but, by the moment,  I need this… I ask you. ,   and i need the , first aids, equipement , for spys , from secourity ..  or military intelligence ..as a . neutralisers of poissions ,of any can…inclousd thouse whop stop all …any thing… and some instruments , like hand  poission  detector, wide espectrum.. you have ,there.. or im goijng to die ,here …….. i need the antidote for cianide , and the instructions , of how to used,...  like I ask to Americans but di not cam  get…and the soon.. is possible…. or they going to killme ,here .. and kill my family , here they need to know extraofitialy by the   U.S. enbassy ,.. personal or side personal.. before they kill them.. eader, because they seduce. with very nice  budget , many killers againstme, and im in danger here out of that because..soone screw up there that I don’t need that top they still gat payt to protectme….tell them that  im open now.. , and  i.. think that.. ,  most of them seduce killers.. that cam here hide , from foreing spys ,and angry ,  and mobbs of  police… mad from the past .. and internationals ,, sides...at that point they , seduce killers tome , because stop them.. it is a nice  business ..possible not longer ..now but I need thouse detectors…,don’t lisent  the persons.. who did survillance. Me.. in the past here,   the life of the persons clouse tome..are in danger eader.. I need eader a nice bug detector.. and shild frecuency device. but first of all the poission detector ..i need I shilds new fast car   eader in the movies they have that and im out here with the eternity in my hands possible…..…I need cameras to survillance.. my home and my department ..and if you coud not sendmem that… pleace autorice or splain Mexicans to send it tome…or side country…or don’t stop the,m to give tome ..by the advise of ..less responsible persons from..mex. or the estates…I need edader … money to escape,  if , the embassy ..can not cam forme ....to takeme there ….the change of goberments it is on the way…on dicember.. 1  2006  ..and I need help.. that way… the soon is possible …if is possible splian to news ..who  im ., by the 8  diplomatic moves.. that I add.. to this letter …or splian my family some…way by the embassy …….…..thanks for yourt  time….

NOTE : do not lisent letters, that they send , by use my e mail , wen alfa esteal my code acces, some coud be fake ... not thouse who tallk about stopme go to there , and , it is a maniac , police mobb from the past..

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April 7 2007 hermosillo sonora mexico

URGENT VERY INPORTANT

  TO THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED ESTATES OF AMERICA 

Tape in Spanish .

    Por medio ,de la presrente ,ago de su conocimiento ..que despues de ayudar ..alos estados unidos, de noretemamerica ,asesorando ,por un frecuencia secreta , una base de datos .. al presidente ., al secretario de defensa ..y al directoir de la C.I.A. noreteamericana .,  como alalista,  de GUERRA .Y ANALISTA ,  DIPLOMATICO ., para ..NEUTRALISAR ..la tesrcera guerra mundial ..NUCLEAR ...en un 90 %..AL NIVEL MUNDIAL ..

Y de estar escondido 28 años …e ..lidiado con ..los asesores de ..el presidente de mexico ..y de el gobernador de sonora ..tambein con los de los . el alcaldes.. de hermosillo sonora ..que , an conbencido, a estos presidentes ..en sus tienpos..y autoridades ..tanto mexicanas y americanas..de arruinarme ., económicamente ..durante 28 años ..trabajando quisas para el comunismo ..internacional y paises extranjeros ..y una mafia mal oliente ..de seguridad..que a ..asta a infiltado ..comunistas., y también en washintgton..d.c. pues los a convencido ..asta ustedes..de nunca mandarme dinero, asi como una mafia de ..ingnorantes ..y superticiosos .. seguidores de ..sectas , eclesiásticas ..y satanicas..y fanaticos en general ....y todos ellos copiando ..tecnicas de enemigos comunistas .y .nacionalistas mexicanos..y extranjeros .. de esos que nunca ..ayudan, y que ironicamente, an echo mucho, dinero con sus partes., de la enbajada ..en México y otras corporaciones….y ya ., que ustedes, siguen comprando pertroleo .a mexico y ayudando a los paises que los protegen ..pues yo abia tenido calma pero hoy en dia an llegado a dajerme asta para curarme., y .ellos siguen ..CONTINUAMENTE ..SUJIRIENDO , QUE NO ME AYUDEN, ECONOMINACMENTE …EN NADA ..NUNCA ., Y CON MI DINERO ..Y PRESUPUESTO PERSONAL .y que nunca salga de mexico .....Y , ustedes..SOLO A MI PROTECCION ANPAGADO ..tambien ..le esplico que ..TODAS ESTAS PERSONAS ., TALVES ., ESTAN ..CON UN LABADO DE SEREBRO, MAXIMO EN CONTRA MIA ..ya que es muy sospechoso , que

SINPRE , SUGIEREN , QUE NO, SE ME AYUDE, ECONOMICAMENTE DE NINGUNA MANERA ..Y AN escho , que asta pierda propiedades..de las , cuales de ..anexo , una lista..pequeña.. a continuación…Y POR LO TANATO, ES MUY FACIL DETECTARLOS ....NADAMAS.. PREGUNTELE AL PRESIDENTE DE MEXICO., QUIEN ..LE DICE QUE NO ME AYUDE ECONOMICAMENTE .Y ELLO SON...Y LE DIGA QUIEN LE DICE., LA GRAN MENTIRA DE , QUE YO PREFIERO EL ..PUESTO DE PRSIDENTE.. Y QUE CON ESO ME PUEDEN PAGAR ..TANTO AÑO DE …ARRUINARME ..ECONOMICAMENTE ..COSA …..…FALSA TOTALMENTE …YA …QUE NUNCA ME INTERESARIA..DE NINGUNA MANERA, BAJO NINGUNA SIRCUNSTANCIA, MAS QUE IRME ALOS ESTADOS UNIDOS ..NADAMAS…..pues me hicieron la vida inpocible..Y yo asesore ala c.i.a no a mexico y no entienden.. 31 largos años.. oyendo ..consejos ..de sirvientas ..y chferes e informantes ..que al ver que me abia., ido a vivir , al sur de California… Mexicali baja California ..en octubre de 1971 ..y que en 5 años., nunca ganaron dinero , por cuidarme cosa que tenian haciendo desde ..1967 des`pues de que me quisieron adoptar ..esas personas importantes de estados unidos y que me djaron en manos del gobierno…ya que no me fui con ellos …Y E VIVIDO UN INFIERNO DESDE QUE ME METI EN ASESORAR ..E ..icieron un trato, que contamino..LA MENTE .. a todas las instancias de cuidarme.. y que consistia , en arruinarme..para que no me FUERA .. y USTEDES LES.. SIGUIERON LA CORRIENTE ..EN VES DE ABORTAR ..PARA CONVENSERME DE IRME A ESTADOS UNIDOS YA QUE MEXICO ERA PELIGROSO COSA QUE NO FUNCIONO PUES NUNCA ME OFRECIERON DINERO ..ADECUADAMENTE ., Y LOS ESCUCHARON ..Y YO NO ISE NADA PUES TENIA PARA VIVIR..BIEN ..Y ERA MUY INPORTANTE LA MISSION Y USTEDES LOS ESCUCHARON ..YA QUE ERA MAS COMODO CUIDARME ASI ……aun asi ..ustedes..gastan mucho ..en espionaje ..que ni les resuelve nada ..por favor le pido ., me mande dinero , del espionaje …y deje ..de oir a estos ..peligrosos religiosos., y .comunistas ..que yo NO QUIERO ..NI CONOSER ..y alos, hombres de negocios , que los aconsejan ., y que no me quieren pues ..les labaron el cerebro en contra mia …tanpoco a militares ..a estos ultimos digales… que asta que tenga mis .$400 millones …de indemnización..que le e solicitado al departamento de estado y el de justicia de estados unidos …ASTA ENTOSNCES..hare algo del clima.. y del, la tecnología …y si nunca.. los tengo nunca aria .. nada ..y are familia nadamas ..ellos arruinaron ..amis PADRES...y.. tios para que nunca ..me ayudaran ..ECONOMICAMENTE ..y los dejeron ..en la situación., de estar a tiro., de pistoleros y comunistas ..asesinos..y de escuadrones… de estorcionistas ..y estafadores…y ladrones..y politicos.. sin escrupulos ., de esos que yo hacia …CAER CON GOLPES DE ESTADO .. en la guerra ..FRIA .. en otros paises..y que que ..creen, que me gusta estarlos., escuchando ..aconsejar ..alos que me deverian de ayudar .. y detenerme aquí cuando yo solo quiero irme., PERO EN FIN YA SE SOLUCIONARA ..y cuando todo esto se normalise….EN LO QUE RESPECTA ..de que.. no se aconseje mas en contra mia en este pais …y en estados unidos Y …aYan aceptado., lo que asesore para que la FAMA me cuide..estos agentes..que an probocado ..que asta …ni me pueda cuar bien en , hospitales de primer ..nivel cuando eso era ..poco inporatante en mi vida ..PUES ABIA NACIDO ACOMODADO ..POR HERENCIA DE MI ABUELO QUE DESTRUYERON..ESTOS TIPEJOS..cuando ..aun teniamos.. propiedades y dinero ..espero., me indemnise ..pronto …y nunca los oiga ..MAS..deles algo.. mas que hacer ya ..que yo nunca.. sere amigo., ni empleado , de ellos ..yo sere amigo ..de diplomaticos de las naciones unidas.. y de .inteligencia militar..NADAMAS.. de antes Y de nueva york…Y de Arizona..y nadamas ..de un que otro físico ..experto en climatología y otros ..politicos de antes...brokers de volsa de valores, y banqueros de estados unidos., y de jente valiosa de mexico , y nadamas ..si TUBIESE DINERO O NO..y no are nunca nada ilegal ..por ningun motibo prefiero veder ..HOT DOGS…..Y SOLO VIVIRE EN LOS, ESTADOS UNIDOS..DE NORTEAMERICA..HOY EN DIA ESTOY ENFERMO ..DE UNOS SINTOMAS QUE ME DEJO UNA BACTERIA Y ASTA AN INVENTADO QUE ME ENVENENO LA C.I.A PARA QUE NADIE ME AYUDE ..Y NO ME DEJAN CUARAEME..BIEN ..Y TIENEN A MIS., PADRES A, TIRO, Y NO SE..cuanto balla usted ..a tardar ., en meterlos , ala carcel, pero yo necesito dinero ., como se lo pedi.. en la carta ..de ayer ..donde le esplici que nesesitio del sector del espionaje ..o mediante compra de terrenos ..que posee mi familia.. ..minimo $4 millones de dolares.. para resolver , mis problemas, mientras ..me pagan, mi indemnización, para vivir RETIRADO ..y estudiando , el clima ..y les ayudo ..en lo demas …CUANDO TERMINE ESTO ..hoy sufri una emergencia ..ya que una.. tia MUY QUERIDA ENFERMO ..MI TIA IRMA ES COMO MI MADRE SEGUNDA ELLA AYUDO MUCHO AQUE YO NO RENUNCIARA YA QUE ME APOYABA CON DINERO SIEMPRE Y SIEMPRE ME A AYUDADO ..Y se puso mal ..y no tenia dinero como ayudarla ..devido a estos ..ASESORES .Y PUES NO ME QUEDA DESIRSELO PERO TODO ES CULPA DE USTEDES ..YA QUE NO LES DICEN QUIEN SOY ..DESDE HACE MUCHO TIEMPO Y NO ME RESPETAN IMAGINES YO PARANDO LA GUERRA NUCLEAR Y ELLOS ARRUINANDOME...y no deberia de estar en esta situación … ya que yo tenia dinero LA NASER Y ESTOS AGNTES ME LO ARRUINARON…..y propiedades valuadas . en mercados..DE BIENES RAISES Y FABRICAS ..FUERON ESTROPEADOS .. por $ 1,200,000. miloones de dolares, entre, rentas, y ventas ..y estos ..mugrosos..me las echaron a perder..CON sus tonterias....Y YA es hora de que me ..arreglen esto ...y ..enpiesen., por favor con el dinero del espionaje extraoficial ....con los $ 4 millones para irme para aya ..o mandeme .un cliente para mis terrenos …le anexo una la lista de , las..propiedades..que e, perdido por culpa de estos ..agentes y epresarios, y soñadores ladrones de tecnología y gente confundida por profesionales…comunistas , sin estudios ..pasados de ..LA RRAYA .. que la misma guerra ..creo .pero, que ya les llego , su final ..en mi vida .y tienen que buscar otra cosa que hacer ...espero me pueda usted ayudar.. a irme pronto ..para nueva york …VIVEN SOÑANDO CON MATARME ..TOD EL TIEMPO …Y NECESITO ..UN EQUIPO DESDE HACE MUCHO TIEMPO..QUE YA LE SOLICITE

NOTA...tratare.. de contactar , ala interpol ..para que me ayude a irme para aya ……

                    ……muchas gracias………….

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