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== Audience == | ||
I get how popular the anime was, but understand it’s targeted audiences are still mainly teenage boys as the target demographic of a Shonen manga, anime or magazine are teen boys 12-18. | |||
Could someone please rename the title into Detective Conan? That's the original title of the series. Thanks! <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:47, 8 March 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
But the reception article keeps making it think that the government is trying to aim the anime to kids. Which is NOT the franchise main target audiences. Especially with how dark and violent the series can be. Shonen manga and anime mainly target teenage boys and still do. Every chief-editor of the magazines have said that despite how popular their magazines are with audiences younger and older than it’s target demographic (male or female), the works within the magazines and manga themselves STILL only target teenage boys. ] (]) 14:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
: {{u| SG1994}}, the article infobox already has demographic=Shonen and lists that it is printed in Shonen-titled magazines and imprints. Was there something that needed to be edited in the reception section? ] (] • ]) 14:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Request == | |||
: {{Not done}}. See ] ] (] • ]) 15:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
Hi there. I'm not here to request anything anymore. I just want if someone could please take the time to post below me all of the reasons as to why there won't be first volume cover as profile picture and an overall plot covering the entire story, so that the explanations are more in handy on the main talk page. Thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)</span> | |||
:: Note for the user: It is true the Singapore-published volumes (released in the following English-speaking territories: Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, and Brunei, and also in Indonesia and Thailand) use ''Detective Conan'' but the userbase for now prefers to use ''Case Closed'' which is used in the US, UK, Canada, and Ireland by Viz (I'm not sure if it is officially licensed in Australia and NZ). I did say that I would propose a move request if an official English release in India uses/used ''Detective Conan'' but this hasn't happened so far. ] (]) 19:35, 14 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
:The volume image is from ] and is used to reduce the amount of Non-Free Content images on Misplaced Pages. Why would we want to add more NFC images that don't add much value to the site? The plot is pretty much up to date. Nothing significant has happened in forever and the author takes weeks off after every 3 or 4 chapters now. ] (] '''·''' ]) 15:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
: Please note that {{u|190.195.107.16}} has been blocked for sockpuppetry. ] (] • ]) 20:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Current english dub uses Japanese names == | |||
== First volume cover as profile picture and change the title into "Detective Conan" == | |||
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Could someone please change the profile picture into the very first volume cover and change the title into "Detective Conan"? It has to be the very first volume cover for a spoilers and common sense topic. And it has to be also "Detective Conan" and not "Case Closed" because that's the original title of the series regardless what the English version chose. PLEASE. | |||
: There are also no spoilers on covers and the existing cover does a sufficient job at identifying the subject of the article. You did not provide a reason why a different cover would better identify the subject. Also, the work is known as ''Case Closed'' in the English language and is thus the common English name. —''']''' (] | ]) 20:40, 2 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
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== Requested move 18 May 2019 == | |||
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I know the point of using English vs. the original names has been brought up many, many times so I don't want to seem like I'm beating a dead horse, but I do think it's at least worth noting that TMS's most recent international releases of Detective Conan media, ie. the dubs of Movie 19, 20, 21, 22 and 23 along with Episode ONE, have all used the original Japanese character names as opposed to Funimation's old localised ones. I feel as though this is at least worth considering in the ongoing debate between using Japanese names vs. Funimation's ones. | |||
The result of the move request was: '''Closed as a disruptive request by block-evading IP.''' ] (]) 09:52, 19 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
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Of course, Viz Media's manga translation does still use the localised names, so it's not like this is a 100% clear cut issue, however TMS themselves are directly involved in producing the movie dubs, so it seems pretty clear that the official preference is in favour of using the original names. ] (]) 09:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan}} | |||
:Since the manga is the primary work we should go with the names it uses.--] (]) 05:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan films}} | |||
::Note there are actually two English versions of the manga. ] (US/Canada/UK/Ireland) uses new English names for main characters while ] (Singapore/Malaysia/Philippines/Brunei) uses the original Japanese names. ] (]) 08:23, 25 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan: The Time Bombed Skyscraper}} | |||
:::I would like to also say that why should it always have to comply with Viz? The manga has fans all around the world and Misplaced Pages itself is an international platform so it should be feasible to use the Shogakukan Asia Manga as a reference since I feel this particular series is more famous in Asia anyway so it should comply with that instead. This is just in my opinion feel free to counteract any of the info above, thank you. ] (]) 15:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan: The Fourteenth Target}} | |||
::Per ] (or MOS:MANGA, same page), "If there are multiple English releases, such as both a manga and anime, use the one that is best known and that has contributed most to the work's becoming known in the English-speaking world (usually the primary work)" The Viz Media manga version has contributed most to the English-speaking world. Shogakukan started in 2014, long after the series has become well-known in English as Case Closed, and characters Jimmy Kudo, etc. This isn't a case where there were multiple English versions of fairly equal footing as with the Dragon Ball dubs. ] (] • ]) 18:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan: The Last Wizard of the Century}} | |||
:::Yes but I feel most people have switched over from Viz as they feel the name changes are useless and the original being more famous since the beginning is also the one most people now know in the English-speaking world, still if you have more to say feel free to continue this conversation. ] (]) 18:41, 29 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan: Captured in Her Eyes}} | |||
::::{{replyto|VP Gerudo}} One way to move forward is to find an analysis of how many published reliable sources in English (only in English) use the original names and how many use the dub names. Such can be evidence of needing to move to the Singapore manga names (which are the Japanese names). ] (]) 05:10, 9 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan: Countdown to Heaven}} | |||
:::::Yes that is a good idea, will do that as soon as possible. Thanks for the suggestion. ] (]) 11:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan: The Phantom of Baker Street}} | |||
:::most conan fan is from outside us though ] (]) 13:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan episodes (seasons 1–15)}} | |||
:::"Well-known" in English-speaking world? That's only in North America. | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 1)}} | |||
:::Let's not forget English also being used as primary language is some Asian countries like India and Singapore where Detective Conan is being used. | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 2)}} | |||
:::Even English official title in Japan itself is Detective Conan, you can see the title being used in Japanese anime release or any non-American English anime release (e.g. Indonesia). ] (]) 16:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 3)}} | |||
::::{{replyto|Christian Elbrianno}} May I ask which version is distributed in India? If so, I'd like to find a source confirming that. As a note, the VIZ conventions apply to their release, which is distributed in the US, Canada, UK, and Ireland (not other countries). The Shogakukan Asia release is distributed to the following territories that use English as a significant language: Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines (I am not including Thailand and Indonesia as English speaking). The titling conventions only consider editions of this series that are released in the English language, but this shows that there are variations even among them. If I find that Shogakukan Asia's release or another one using "Detective Conan" is released in India, in my opinion that would give a stronger impetus to use "Detective Conan" instead of "Case Closed". ] (]) 17:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 4)}} | |||
:No one's mentioned it yet, so I figure I'll add that the show has been being under the joint title of "Case Closed - Detective Conan". It's available free for streaming. They've dubbed episodes 964 to 1014, and in all of them the Japanese names are used--Shin'ichi, Ran, Kogoro, Mouri, etc. Since the old Jimmy Kudo dub isn't legally available on any streaming sites nor currently airing, I believe that means the Viz manga is the only English source still using the old English names. Also, ''allegedly'' this Tubi version is also airing in India, but I couldn't find any source actually confirming that. ] (]) 03:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 5)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 6)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 7)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 8)}} | |||
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* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 15)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan episodes (seasons 16–current)}} | |||
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* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 17)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 18)}} | |||
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* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan (season 27)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan volumes}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan volumes (1–20)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan volumes (21–40)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan volumes (41–60)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan volumes (61–80)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan volumes (81–current)}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan OVAs}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan characters}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|Detective Conan discography}} | |||
* ] → {{no redirect|List of Detective Conan video games}} | |||
– The Japanese ] and ] series '''名探偵コナン''' is known as '''Detective Conan''' around the world because all covers of '''名探偵コナン''' 's manga volumes, anime episodes, films and OVAs made by ] call '''名探偵コナン''' as '''Detective Conan'''. In addition, when English Misplaced Pages names the seventh to twenty-third films for '''名探偵コナン''', '''Detective Conan''' is at the beginning of these films' titles (For Japanese version of the 23 films for '''名探偵コナン''', '''名探偵コナン''' is at the beginning of all these films' titles). In conclusion, '''名探偵コナン''' is reflected as '''Detective Conan'''. However, when English Misplaced Pages names the most parts of the related articles for '''名探偵コナン''', '''名探偵コナン''' is still named as '''Case Closed''', which is opposite from the reality and make more confusion and chaos. In order to reflect the reality and avoid the confusion and chaos, it is necessary to replace '''Case Closed''' with '''Detective Conan''' in the titles of the related articles for '''名探偵コナン''', as this requested move listed. ~~68.183.187.226 <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </small> 15:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Remove Historical and Cultural Significance Section == | |||
* '''Oppose''' per ]. Manga volumes in English are still being produced with the Case Closed name, and episodes are still posted on Netflix under this name. ] (] • ]) 18:25, 18 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
::{{ping|AngusWOOF}} But the reality is the official publisher ] calls '''名探偵コナン''' as '''Detective Conan''', and known around the world. ~~68.183.187.226 18:33, 18 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
* '''Redirect''' Just redirect all red links. Sincerely, ]] 19:41, 18 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
* '''Comment:''' This is likely the same person who's already been blocked for sockpuppetry in related matters. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 19:48, 18 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
*'''Oppose''' per previous discussions and ] as it is used by reliable English-language sources. Both the manga and anime are officially licensed and released as ''Case Closed'' despite what a small group of dedicated fans prefer. —''']''' (] | ]) 20:30, 18 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
*'''Oppose''' nothing has changed since the last discussion. The anime is still referred to as Case Closed on Netflix (and these are subbed Japanese episodes they never never dubbed), also, the English manga, as mentioned, is still being released under the name case closed. The all around the world argument is also irrelevant here since this is the English language Misplaced Pages meaning we base the title on what it’s referred to in reliable English language sources and no evidence has been provided to indicate that Detective Conan has overtaken Case Closed in that regard.--] (]) 21:32, 18 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
*'''Yet another RM on same subject by same blocked Sock''' https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/68.183.187.226 ] (]) 06:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, I believe this section is not relevant nor all that informative and should be removed. | |||
: Note to readers: The userbase ''is aware'' of the existence of the SE Asia version, but continues to use ''Case Closed'' as that is used in the US, Canada, UK, and Ireland (as per Viz). I did say that I would propose a move request if an official English release in India uses/used ''Detective Conan'' but this hasn't happened so far. ] (]) 19:37, 14 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
The first paragraph contains non-relevant historical commentary and subjective comments sourced from an undergraduate thesis. The second paragraph does not accurately represent the source it uses. "Using chopsticks" can not be considered cultural commentary. The third paragraph makes claims on music that are not supported by the pages it links to. I can not find a way to access the source but if relevant, I propose citing to it on the linked pages as well. The final paragraph comments on the setting by directly referencing episodes of the show. If included, this same paragraph would have to be included for most anime shows. The final line might be better suited to the 'Plot' section. ] (]) 05:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: This shouldn't be affected by any new Indian English versions generated as it's been under the Viz Media one for much longer than that. ] (] • ]) 01:29, 16 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I reread the section, and yes, there are definitely various issues with it, mainly on its focus and the use of the sources. I wouldn't mind to have it removed altogether from the article. ] (]) 05:51, 2 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
::: Its possible time and duration of each release could be a factor, bit I still think the issue should be revisited if India gets the original names in an English version as the number of L2 English speakers is about 200 million or so (out of over 1 billion). If there are official broadcasts or printings in Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc that would up the number. There are other factors such as how many RSes use each, how many after the English sub releases use what, etc ] (]) 13:52, 4 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
==Separate |
== Separate page for TV series? == | ||
People will continue to argue about this, so why don't just make two versions for this series? Just like the Doraemon and the Disney Doraemon articles on this wiki. ] (]) 13:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
Just COMPLETELY gonna throw this out there out of the blue, but should this have a separate page for the TV show like ], ], ], and ] do? Is it that major of an anime and manga series? ] (]) 22:55, 20 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
: Not when they refer to the same media only translated. This isn't a completely reworked adaptation like with Power Rangers / Super Sentai. ] (] • ]) 18:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
::I agree and on another note I’m not sure if ] should be a separate article either.--] (]) 06:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
:The TV adaptation alone definitely has enough coverage to warrant a split. ] (]) 05:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Requests. == | |||
:* '''Strongly Disagree''': The show has enough coverage, but that doesn’t mean the article should be split. It’s a ], and splitting it would likely lower its ]. Plus, the article is less than 5,000 words, there’s no need to split it per ]. | |||
:] (]) 21:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::{{reply|Lililolol}} I did not mean to say that the article, as it currently is, should be split. I meant to say that there is enough existing coverage (not just what is in the article alone) to make another article dedicated specifically to the anime (obviously including these references). ] (]) 21:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Low ratings adult swim == | |||
Hello there. I just wanted to know if you are willing to put the first volume cover as profile picture and to change the title into Detective Conan. Yeah, I'm the usual guy who used to ask for this, but now I need confirmation about this. Please don't block me! I'm just asking nicely if this could be done. Please reply asap. Thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:20, 19 March 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
This is not at all true! Case closed had high ratings but it was with teen and children viewers. Kids would stay up late to watch the show. Problem was adult swim wanted adult viewers and kim manning personally disliked the show and wanted it gone. She had admitted as much. She never wanted the show on tv and tried to sabotage it. ] (]) 20:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:The first request is denied. It uses a volume cover from another article, and Misplaced Pages wants to reduce its amount of non-free content as much as possible. The second request is denied. Misplaced Pages takes licensed name over the Japanese name. Even Netflix has the series under the name Case Closed in America. ] (] '''·''' ]) 00:21, 20 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
::One top of that Netflix uses the Case Closed name even though the episodes aired are Subtitled Japanese only episodes that were never dubbed it English.--] (]) 15:51, 22 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
: Original poster was blocked for sock editing same old topic. ] ] (] • ]) 21:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Request. == | |||
Hello there. Just wanted to ask nicely if it could be possible to consider this article a featured article with a yellow star since it is one of the best-selling mangas in history and a very interesting series. Please reply asap. Thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: {{ping|201.235.147.210}} Hi! To do that, the article needs to be revised and submitted to the ] process. ] (]) 21:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Request == | |||
:Could you provide a source for this statement? ] (]) 20:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
I request for the first volume cover to be added to this Misplaced Pages article. If not, explain why. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:59, 11 July 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Audience
I get how popular the anime was, but understand it’s targeted audiences are still mainly teenage boys as the target demographic of a Shonen manga, anime or magazine are teen boys 12-18. But the reception article keeps making it think that the government is trying to aim the anime to kids. Which is NOT the franchise main target audiences. Especially with how dark and violent the series can be. Shonen manga and anime mainly target teenage boys and still do. Every chief-editor of the magazines have said that despite how popular their magazines are with audiences younger and older than it’s target demographic (male or female), the works within the magazines and manga themselves STILL only target teenage boys. SG1994! (talk) 14:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- SG1994, the article infobox already has demographic=Shonen and lists that it is printed in Shonen-titled magazines and imprints. Was there something that needed to be edited in the reception section? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Request
Hi there. I'm not here to request anything anymore. I just want if someone could please take the time to post below me all of the reasons as to why there won't be first volume cover as profile picture and an overall plot covering the entire story, so that the explanations are more in handy on the main talk page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.195.107.16 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- The volume image is from With a Bang (Case Closed) and is used to reduce the amount of Non-Free Content images on Misplaced Pages. Why would we want to add more NFC images that don't add much value to the site? The plot is pretty much up to date. Nothing significant has happened in forever and the author takes weeks off after every 3 or 4 chapters now. D.Zero (Talk · Contribs) 15:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Please note that 190.195.107.16 has been blocked for sockpuppetry. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Current english dub uses Japanese names
I know the point of using English vs. the original names has been brought up many, many times so I don't want to seem like I'm beating a dead horse, but I do think it's at least worth noting that TMS's most recent international releases of Detective Conan media, ie. the dubs of Movie 19, 20, 21, 22 and 23 along with Episode ONE, have all used the original Japanese character names as opposed to Funimation's old localised ones. I feel as though this is at least worth considering in the ongoing debate between using Japanese names vs. Funimation's ones.
Of course, Viz Media's manga translation does still use the localised names, so it's not like this is a 100% clear cut issue, however TMS themselves are directly involved in producing the movie dubs, so it seems pretty clear that the official preference is in favour of using the original names. ThomasGameDocs (talk) 09:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Since the manga is the primary work we should go with the names it uses.--65.93.194.2 (talk) 05:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note there are actually two English versions of the manga. VIZ Media (US/Canada/UK/Ireland) uses new English names for main characters while Shogakukan Asia (Singapore/Malaysia/Philippines/Brunei) uses the original Japanese names. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:23, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- I would like to also say that why should it always have to comply with Viz? The manga has fans all around the world and Misplaced Pages itself is an international platform so it should be feasible to use the Shogakukan Asia Manga as a reference since I feel this particular series is more famous in Asia anyway so it should comply with that instead. This is just in my opinion feel free to counteract any of the info above, thank you. VP Gerudo (talk) 15:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Per MOS:ANIME (or MOS:MANGA, same page), "If there are multiple English releases, such as both a manga and anime, use the one that is best known and that has contributed most to the work's becoming known in the English-speaking world (usually the primary work)" The Viz Media manga version has contributed most to the English-speaking world. Shogakukan started in 2014, long after the series has become well-known in English as Case Closed, and characters Jimmy Kudo, etc. This isn't a case where there were multiple English versions of fairly equal footing as with the Dragon Ball dubs. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes but I feel most people have switched over from Viz as they feel the name changes are useless and the original being more famous since the beginning is also the one most people now know in the English-speaking world, still if you have more to say feel free to continue this conversation. VP Gerudo (talk) 18:41, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- @VP Gerudo: One way to move forward is to find an analysis of how many published reliable sources in English (only in English) use the original names and how many use the dub names. Such can be evidence of needing to move to the Singapore manga names (which are the Japanese names). WhisperToMe (talk) 05:10, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes that is a good idea, will do that as soon as possible. Thanks for the suggestion. VP Gerudo (talk) 11:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- @VP Gerudo: One way to move forward is to find an analysis of how many published reliable sources in English (only in English) use the original names and how many use the dub names. Such can be evidence of needing to move to the Singapore manga names (which are the Japanese names). WhisperToMe (talk) 05:10, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- most conan fan is from outside us though 114.124.176.118 (talk) 13:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Well-known" in English-speaking world? That's only in North America.
- Let's not forget English also being used as primary language is some Asian countries like India and Singapore where Detective Conan is being used.
- Even English official title in Japan itself is Detective Conan, you can see the title being used in Japanese anime release or any non-American English anime release (e.g. Indonesia). Christian Elbrianno (talk) 16:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Christian Elbrianno: May I ask which version is distributed in India? If so, I'd like to find a source confirming that. As a note, the VIZ conventions apply to their release, which is distributed in the US, Canada, UK, and Ireland (not other countries). The Shogakukan Asia release is distributed to the following territories that use English as a significant language: Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines (I am not including Thailand and Indonesia as English speaking). The titling conventions only consider editions of this series that are released in the English language, but this shows that there are variations even among them. If I find that Shogakukan Asia's release or another one using "Detective Conan" is released in India, in my opinion that would give a stronger impetus to use "Detective Conan" instead of "Case Closed". WhisperToMe (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes but I feel most people have switched over from Viz as they feel the name changes are useless and the original being more famous since the beginning is also the one most people now know in the English-speaking world, still if you have more to say feel free to continue this conversation. VP Gerudo (talk) 18:41, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note there are actually two English versions of the manga. VIZ Media (US/Canada/UK/Ireland) uses new English names for main characters while Shogakukan Asia (Singapore/Malaysia/Philippines/Brunei) uses the original Japanese names. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:23, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- No one's mentioned it yet, so I figure I'll add that the show has been being dubbed into English again on Tubi, under the joint title of "Case Closed - Detective Conan". It's available free for streaming. They've dubbed episodes 964 to 1014, and in all of them the Japanese names are used--Shin'ichi, Ran, Kogoro, Mouri, etc. Since the old Jimmy Kudo dub isn't legally available on any streaming sites nor currently airing, I believe that means the Viz manga is the only English source still using the old English names. Also, allegedly this Tubi version is also airing in India, but I couldn't find any source actually confirming that. AmbiguouslyAnonymous (talk) 03:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Remove Historical and Cultural Significance Section
Hello, I believe this section is not relevant nor all that informative and should be removed.
The first paragraph contains non-relevant historical commentary and subjective comments sourced from an undergraduate thesis. The second paragraph does not accurately represent the source it uses. "Using chopsticks" can not be considered cultural commentary. The third paragraph makes claims on music that are not supported by the pages it links to. I can not find a way to access the source but if relevant, I propose citing to it on the linked pages as well. The final paragraph comments on the setting by directly referencing episodes of the show. If included, this same paragraph would have to be included for most anime shows. The final line might be better suited to the 'Plot' section. Rspln (talk) 05:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- I reread the section, and yes, there are definitely various issues with it, mainly on its focus and the use of the sources. I wouldn't mind to have it removed altogether from the article. Xexerss (talk) 05:51, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Separate page for TV series?
Just COMPLETELY gonna throw this out there out of the blue, but should this have a separate page for the TV show like Spy × Family (TV series), Black Lagoon (TV series), Bleach (TV series), and Naruto (TV series) do? Is it that major of an anime and manga series? MushroomMan674 (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- The TV adaptation alone definitely has enough coverage to warrant a split. Xexerss (talk) 05:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly Disagree: The show has enough coverage, but that doesn’t mean the article should be split. It’s a Good Article, and splitting it would likely lower its quality. Plus, the article is less than 5,000 words, there’s no need to split it per WP:AS.
- Lililolol (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Lililolol: I did not mean to say that the article, as it currently is, should be split. I meant to say that there is enough existing coverage (not just what is in the article alone) to make another article dedicated specifically to the anime (obviously including these references). Xexerss (talk) 21:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Low ratings adult swim
This is not at all true! Case closed had high ratings but it was with teen and children viewers. Kids would stay up late to watch the show. Problem was adult swim wanted adult viewers and kim manning personally disliked the show and wanted it gone. She had admitted as much. She never wanted the show on tv and tried to sabotage it. 100.1.43.38 (talk) 20:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Could you provide a source for this statement? Xexerss (talk) 20:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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