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Why you delete " Comparison of database tools article "

Hi, I don't knew why you delete the Article "Comparison of database tools article", pleaze restore it.

Studley Darts

Hi 57. You deleted the Studley Darts page, why? I don't beleive you have any affinity to the game of darts? Studley Darts League is one of the oldest darts leagues in the country. It has spawned a current world class player and thousands have played for it over the past 45 years. Please reinstate the page. Thank you.

Page delete

Hi 57, I hope I'm doing this right, but I'm the editor of the page on Linda Levi the Los Angeles artist. You deleted it because you didn't "see her significance." Apparently, I have to recreate it and show more information on her. She is important in Los Angeles, now a major world art center, and the United States, for many reasons. One, she was one of the founders of the women's art movement in Los Angeles. And two, she was a founding director of Womenspace, in 1971, the first non-profit institution to recognize and exhibit women artists in the United States. So, I'll try again. How do you respond to this? Will you undelete the article and I'll add more information?

Thanks, barbaraleif

Hi 57, again-I believe you said you would paste the original on my talk page; I don't see it there and it would help me to use the basic info to write again. Thanks, barbaraleif —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbaraleif (talkcontribs) 10:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello 57. You deleted The Vision Depot, my corporation, citing "blatant advertising". Yet I'm doing nothing different than any of my competitors or partners! In fact, while there were 2 sentences talking about my company (none were "advertisements", 90% of my copy was informative information on machine vision, and its importance in today's society. You marked it for speedy deletion, and I think this is unfair. Please let me know how I can get my page back up, because I'm not sure you thoroughly checked out the content-rich information. Thank you.

jpweber —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpweber (talkcontribs) 19:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hope 4 U Worship

Hello 57, It's me again, I am not the pastor, but I am the pastors son who designed the website. I have added on the page that reuse is allowed. Also I will remove the service times. Please let me know what other changes are needed to make the article existent.

Thanks

Hope 4 U Worship

Hello 57, I am the creator of the website www.hope4uworship.org and my page on wiki was deleted for copyright infringement. Please repost the information I submitted to wiki, if I need to add on my website that copying is allowed I will do so.

Thanks

Matrix(mathematics)

Hi 57 is it possible you could have a look at this for me dont know how to make the text more readable if possible could you fix it for me or if not you might know someone who could thanks in advance Text Problem. BigDunc 09:11, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi,

I succeeded at my RfA nomination.

Thanks for supporting me - תודה! I shall not disappoint you! --Amir E. Aharoni 00:02, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Fabrictramp RFA

Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship, which passed with 50 supports, 1 neutral, and 1 oppose. My goal is to keep earning your trust every time I grab the "mop". (And I'm always open to constructive criticism and advice!) Again, thanks. --Fabrictramp 15:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Wang Hao(Table Tennis)

I noticed that you recently deleted the redirect at Wang Hao(Table Tennis). I don't think this is an implausible typo or misnomer for Wang Hao (table tennis). There is was an article that points to this spelling, and ten other pages that also did link to Wang Hao(Table Tennis), which I think shows that it is a likely candidate for a misspelling. Please clarify. Thanks, Lisatwo 13:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining things. Cheers, Lisatwo 14:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

For correcting my spelling in the Birya affair article. I know my spelling and syntax are less than perfect, so usually I contribute by adding a picture to an existing article. However, I wanted to write this one for many reasons, and it's good to see that someone bothered with correcting my mistakes. Pelegisrael 14:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


Sailboat dimensions

Why did you delete my article? It was a work in progress started this morning. When I got back to it this afternoon, you'd deleted it.

Sailboat dimensions are important in the technical areas of PHRF racing, box rules, etc. I looked for a definition of J dimension and seeing that it wasn't there, started a page. Eventually, this was going to be referred to from various sailboat class pages, for example the Olson 30 page. Please undelete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CSears (talkcontribs) 00:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

FYI (heading style)

FYI, the External links section should always be written as such, even if there's just one link. See this section. -- Ynhockey 19:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Aus election template

If you insist on changing it, can you please set it so that the second template on all the election pages (politics of australia) also shows in full by default as well. Thankyou. Timeshift 11:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Template

Hi. I attempted to create a new template, for Knesset speakers. It is my first attempt of template creation, and it is based on the Israeli Presidents one. Will you please have a look in my Sandbox, and see if any adjustments are needed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derwig (talkcontribs) 18:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks -- Derwig 19:03, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I found the images on Hebrew Misplaced Pages. Some of the images there were uploaded to commons, see the one on Moshe Kol's page. When you click the image, the description of the image comes up, with a link to the original page on "ויקישיתוף". The template used for Kol's image on commons would probably apply to many other MK's (requiring 50 years from creation), and can be used for free-use rationale when uploading images from the Knesset website. -- Derwig 14:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Sockpupets right to vanish

Please comment.User_talk:Avraham#About_the_right_of_sockpupetry_to_vanish--יודל 13:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You

Wow... I see you've been deleting up a storm! Guess we're happy you were promoted - now you're doing all the work around here. Thanks for your efforts. -- Y not? 04:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Page delete again

I just wrote you a note, but I don't know if I put it in the right place. You said you would paste the original Linda Levi article into my talk page but I don't see it, and I'd like to use it as a reference.

Thanks, barbaraleif —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbaraleif (talkcontribs) 10:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Page delete again, again

Thanks, I got the paste up. But, I don't have time, now, to do all the work. So, someone I know who is an art dealer is going to write the article, and use the original.

Barbaraleif 23:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)barbaraleif

SuperbHosting.net

Hi there, I was creating a page for SuperbHosting.net, and it was deleted as 'blatant advertising.' The page had little to do about advertising; it gave a history of the creation of the site and described the types of hosting services provided. The page was not close to complete, however, to avoid losing the content - when I was previewing, there was a clear warning that the page had not been saved, so I quickly saved.

To ensure the article being created was neutral, I had pulled pages for several comparable hosting sites and was following their formats: Hostway DreamHost Aplus.net Rackspace

Had I known the page would be reviewed and deleted upon hitting 'Save,' I would have copied and pasted the content to a text document and simply saved it there. As one of the oldest hosting companies - over 11 years in the Industry - it is relevant for the company to have an article; the company pre-dates the adoption of the Internet by popular culture/the average person by almost 5 years and survived the dot-com bust - no easy feat.

Can this article be restored and so it can be completed for a second review? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superbhosting (talkcontribs) 19:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for the quick respsonse. As mentioned, the article was not completed and references were to be added as the final piece of the puzzle. As well, if you review the references on the companies previously mentioned, a majority of them are not third-party, rather, they exist on the website of the company being represented.

I don't really consider the statement: SuperbHosting.net offers a full range of hosting solutions, to be advertising propaganda; it's a statement of fact. The statement was followed by links within wikipedia that provide unbiased information - not advertising - and was intended to be a very small part of the article. It's simply what the company does, and I never said we were the best at it or anything along those lines.

I understand the potential for a conflict of interest, but many large corporations manage and monitor their listings on Misplaced Pages; as an Internet company, it is more relevant to the company, and I chose the username on purpose. Rather than face scrutiny/controversy in the future, I was up-front about the affiliation.

Again, is it possible to have the article restored and reviewed upon completion rather than in its infancy, as it was? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superbhosting (talkcontribs) 20:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's for you to decide whether or not I'm the right person to write or contribute to ANY article, and your unwillingness to accomodate a request to allow me to complete an article before having it reviewed and deleted seems a little harsh. Especially when it was simply inexperience in the arena that allowed you to read the article in the first place. You're acting like some sort of wiki-nazi - no posting, 2 weeks!

I see in other comments that you've acted the same way with others; you may consider a less heavy-handed approach to your volunteer work and simply request people make adjustments to articles based on complaints X, Y, and Z rather than simply deleting articles on a whim. Those of us less-versed in using wiki's spend a lot of time making our contributions and shouldn't be automatically penalized based on your subjective opinion of content produced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superbhosting (talkcontribs) 20:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Moved from user page

hey i don't know how to write you but i have been trying to update Prashant Chopra because this is what the google results show:

Prashant Chopra - Misplaced Pages, the 💕 Prashant Chopra is a founder of the Campus EAI consortium. He was arrested On September 29th, 2007 as part of an internet sting of people soliciting sex ... en.wikipedia.org/Prashant_Chopra - 17k - Cached - Similar pages

I want to remove this as it is a cached personal attack. How can this be done?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.124.38 (talkcontribs)

Articles removed...

Hi,

I see that you removed some articles that I published yesterday.

I have no clue if I'm doing this right. This Wiki stuff is very complicated and I have been directed to use about 200 different things in the last 8 hours including the "Help Desk", my "Talk Page", your "Talk Page", things called "templates" and other stuff and I'm now going cross-eyed.

I have 3 pages that I have created that have been deleted:

   * Runtime Design Automation
   * Flowtracer
   * RTDA Network Computer

The first is a company that produces software that my company uses. The second and third are pieces of software that they produce that we use. I looked at one of their competitor's pages for an example so they would not come off as SPAM:

   * Platform Computing
   * Load Sharing Facility

The first is the company. The second is one of their products. Why can these pages be on there but the ones that I am trying to create are deleted? Is it because I don't have 3rd-party external links or something? If so, well, Load Sharing Facility doesn't either. They only link that is on that page is back to the vendor that produces it.

I have to say that my attempt at adding some content in Misplaced Pages has been extremely frustrating. I've spent about 8 hours trying to learn the syntax and different portions of this app and after doing that, everything was canned.

Janbur (just so you know, I didn't write the below comment, I don't know who did that)

My apologies

Hi there, I want to apologize if my comment regarding 'wiki-nazi' was taken as uncivil rather than humorous. It's a reference to the soup nazi, and was meant as nothing more than a reference to a pop-culture term. Superbhosting 21:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

MNE

Please check out Template talk:Montenegrin elections. --PaxEquilibrium 21:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

RosAsm's wikipedia page deletion on purpose.

You are WRONG to delete the page.

It's not :

Recreation of deleted material. A copy, by any title, of a page deleted via a deletion discussion, provided the copy is substantially identical to the deleted version and that any changes to it do not address the reasons for which it was deleted. This does not apply to content that has been moved to user space, undeleted via deletion review, or deleted via "proposed deletion", or to speedy deletions (although in that case, the previous speedy criterion, or other speedy criteria, may apply).

Because i just wrote it with my hands a few hours ago.

Erase the talk page, erase the page. Where's the talk in that? RosAsm is a 10 year old assembler!!! www.rosasm.org

I want a full explanation for deleting the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.201.174.241 (talk) 21:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of PassMark Software Pty Ltd

Hello Number 57,

I note that you deleted the above page citing 'blatant advertising'.

I added the page because it appears that wikipedia approves the existence of several of its competitors (i.e. Everest Software, SiSoftware Sandra, FutureMark & Bapco, Bytemark).

I added it because its product PerformanceTest is listed amongst the benchmarking applications shown in 'Benchmark (computing)'. I thought I was doing a good job of letting people know a little about the company that produces the software. I didn't list everything they make (unlike some of its competitors) and I didn't add any hyperbole or endorsements regarding the quality of the software or the company.

I humbly request that you review your decision regarding the deletion of this page. Alternatively, can you please tell me what I need to do to make it more appropriate.

Yours sincerely,

The Bench —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Bench (talkcontribs) 06:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the Table for Two complaint that someone added to my text. To the person who added it, please create a new message, don't add your stuff to someone else's message.

Yasser Arafat peer review

Greetings Number 57, I have dropped in to ask of you to review the Yasser Arafat article. Scartol and I have been working on the article endlessly to expand, verify and reference, copyedit and to keep an NPOV. We thought it would be a good idea to get members of Wiki:Project Israel with a history of hard work and NPOV editing to overview it to make sure the article is fair. Any points that you want to bring up can be discussed here: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Biography/Peer review/Yasser Arafat --Al Ameer son 21:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey no problem, whenever you have time you can look over controversial text in the article so we it could be as neutral as possible. Thank you so much. --Al Ameer son 03:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Two questions

Hello there. I found your userpage by tracing back Al Ameer son's request for a review of Yasser Arafat, on which I've been working with him. Glancing through your userboxes, I found two head-scratchers; I hope you won't mind if I ask:

  1. How do you reconcile being both a democrat and a monarchist?
  2. Why do you consider organic farming a bad thing? I'm not trying to be annoying, I've just never heard any criticism of it (apart from Monsanto shills).

Cheers! – Scartol · Talk 13:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Avram Grant

Perfectly reasonable. I'll semi-protect the redirect. Cool Hand Luke 15:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see it's already been done. Cool Hand Luke 15:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

PassMark Software

Hello User 57,

Thank you for your prompt response. I take on board the comments re: format and apologise as it was my first time at posting.

I'm still a little unsure as to why certain other companies whose format is almost identical are allowed whilst PassMark isn't. e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/Futuremark http://en.wikipedia.org/SiSoftware_Sandra http://en.wikipedia.org/Everest_%28software%29

It isn't all that important to me so I guess I'll drop it. I have to say that I'm surprised at the summary nature with which these decisions are made. It was my understanding that if articles are not up to scratch then users are given the opportunity to amend them. Knowing that it is possible to spend hours researching and writing something and then have it instantly deleted without consultation/communication does dampen my enthusiasm for making future contributions.

Cheers, The Bench —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Bench (talkcontribs) 06:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


Ok, I can understand that just because other companies/products are present this doesn't justify inclusion of another one. However, shouldn't there be consistency of application once quality/notability have been decided? Your message to me indicated that the examples I provided were not appropriate for wikipedia and so you have lodged deletion notices. Why are you not 'speedy deleting' them in the same way as you deleted mine?

I'm really having trouble understanding how this process works. Does fairness play any part of this at all?

Regards, The Bench

Cdncc.com

Hi. You deleted an article on Cdncc.com

I believe the site is noteworthy, being one of the oldest of it's kind in Canada and having a completely unique Usenet feature in parallel which no other classifieds site has.

Should I have just focused on those 2 main qualities instead and left it at that? Rather than provide additional details about the site which were more commonplace?

Thanks for the input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paris1745 (talkcontribs) 23:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't find any newpaper articles on the site and I am not aware of any trade journals that exist on the subject. I have used this site for years and many others, it does have a distinct service. I have rewritten a trimmed down version noting it's unique usenet quality, would this be an acceptable entry:

First launched in October 2000, it is one of the oldest online nationwide classifieds in Canada, since then they have expanded to include the U.S.A.

Cdncc.com is distinguided from every other classifieds website by providing a parallel Usenet gateway of buy and sell ads alongside regular website classified ads.

External links
Official Homepage
Company Press Release

See also
bracket bracket Classifieds]]
bracket bracketCategory:Advertising]] Paris1745 14:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages deleted

so you can't have a talk page for an article that doesn't exist? Why not? 203.129.63.129 05:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Request on Flowtracer

Hi Number 57. I've declined the speedy deletion of the above, as the article weekly asserts importance (they have patented a process). It's dodgy. You may well wish to take it to WP:AFD however. Best. Pedro :  Chat  15:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Hold on! You're an admin! You could have speedied it yourself! Pedro :  Chat  15:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Okay - fair enough! It was the line "Flowtracer also uses a patented technology" that gave me pause. It's weak, but being patented does vaguely assert some significance. May as well AFD it though, where it probably won't survive. Pedro :  Chat  15:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Election links

I have created redirects so that we don't have a double-redirect or redlink situation, fixing the articles to point to the correct name, then when I'm sure there's no double redirects, I am intending to move the articles. Consensus has been established twice for this move (once five months ago and once more recently) on the WT:AUSPOL talk page. Orderinchaos 15:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

References and links

Hello 57, I took over for barbaraleif and I'm writing the Linda Levi page. As you suggested to her I'm adding more significance and detail. I've been able to link references to an outside page, like Jon Schueler's book to Amazon, but I can't figure out how to do inner references. For example, like his name, Jon Schueler, to his book reference, The Sound of Slate etc. which is a 1. I'm having the same problem for all the references they all need to be referred to in the text. I've tried to figure it out from Misplaced Pages help but.... Artbuffer 20:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC) Artbuffer

Bangin' On Wax 2... The Saga Continues

It is a implausible typo. The only difference with the redirect is the capital "O" in the word "on". If that's not implausible, then what the hell it is? Reply here, thank you.--Tasc0 20:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you seriously saying that accidently capitalising the only word in the title that is not capitalised is implausible? I think its perfectly possible and therefore a legitimate redirect. пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Search will target the redirect. I've seen a lot of redirects like this one being deleted.--Tasc0 18:37, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

re:Cdncc.com deletion

re:"...In order for the article to be kept, you need to provide independent third party sources (such as newspaper or trade journal articles) about the company, otherwise it will fail..."

I couldn't find any newspaper articles on the website (seeing as free online classifieds are taking away business from traditional news sources and newspapers it seems unlikely to happen) and I am not aware of any trade journals that exist on the subject.

I have used this site for years and many others, it does have a distinct service. I have rewritten a trimmed down version noting it's unique usenet quality, would this be an acceptable entry, thanks:

First launched in October 2000, it is one of the oldest online nationwide classifieds in Canada, since then they have expanded to include the U.S.A.

Cdncc.com is distinguided from every other classifieds website by providing a parallel Usenet gateway of buy and sell ads alongside regular website classified ads.

External links Official Homepage Company Press Release

See also Classifieds Category:Advertising

First time user - deletion of UNOS Voice article

Dear Number 57,

This is my first time uploading an article onto Misplaced Pages, therefore I'm not very sure how this works.

I'm not exactly sure what constitutes 'blatant advertising' as I was under the impression that the text submitted explained what UNOS Voice was, who was behind it and what it's functions are, very similar to the way Skype explained what their SkypeOut function is.

Perhaps you can be more specific on which sections I need to have changed to meet the requirements of Wiki standards.

For the moment because the entry has been deleted altogether, I do not have a backup copy of what was submitted yesterday. Could you retrieve this?

Cheers

Delet of article "Car Dealer Package"

You have deleted my article about our product (Car Dealer Package) and company (Vector) on October 9th 2007 at 12.19 in reason of "No assertion of importance/significance". I am referring to the article about SAP and several SAP-Products: http://en.wikipedia.org/SAP. Why is the description of SAP and SAP's products of any importance to you, while our information is not?

Article deletion - UNOS Voice, getting it right...

Hello Number 57,

Thank you for your guidance.

With regards to the advertising part, I understand now what needs to be removed. I suppose my postings need to be more 'academic' in nature, that's fine. However, I'm not sure how explaining the various functions is 'advertisy'. Why I say this is because if you look at Skype, they have defined what the function of SkypeIn and SkypeOut is. I think UNOS is pretty similar too as they use the same naming conventions as Skype, Yahoo and Vyke. What do you think?

With regards to their notability, I'm not sure how you got the hit rate on Google. If you mean typing the words 'UNOS Voice' into the search field, on my screen it brings back 770,000 hits. In fact when I search UNOS, I can see they have UNOS Voice and UNOS Friends, two listing under the UNOS banner.

In fact what I really wanted to list in the beginning was 'UNOS', not 'UNOS Voice', because I think UNOS is the main flagship - Voice, Friends are just ancillary. Unfortunately there seems to be someone using that name already, as an acronym for United Network for Organ Sharing. I don't know how to create another 'UNOS' page without actually editing the Organ Sharing page. Any insights?

Finally, as to whether the other Wikipedians like yourself would allow it to pass the WK: AfD process, well, I really hope it does (fingers crossed) - because this is so far the only Asian developed fixed mobile convergence platforms to become global. I've been following their public press releases on the web and they seem to be making headway all over the world, although in a small way for now (I guess like Skype was in the beginning). It would be a real shame if they didn't even get indexed on Wiki.

What can I do? Can you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wanyen (talkcontribs) 09:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Devotional Ensemble

Hello Number 57 - I am trying to publish a factual page about my band... and you have deleted it twice! I've read WP:COI and I'm not trying to use Wiki for promotional purposes only factual. Is there anything I can do get this published or is forbidden for indiviuals with a direct interest in a subject to be published? Thanks. Alanstalin 14:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Kubadabad palace

Hi Number 57, Can you explain your decision that this was not a copyright violation? The last two paragraphs are nearly identical to the last two paragraphs of the Archnet article provided as a source. Archnet material is copyrighted non-free content, and the article as it stands is unacceptable. Passages more dis

I asked over a week ago that the acticle's creator try rewording it, but my request has been ignored. I would like for the aricle to be reworded, as the site is an important one. Kafka Liz 16:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Your solution seems fair. Thanks for checking it out.Kafka Liz 17:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Octopus (band)

It's ba-a-a-a-a-ack!!! - CobaltBlueTony 21:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Earthfamily deletion

Please explain to me how this entry is something insignificant? I don't understand why you keep deleting it. It's real, legitamite, has members who function together in the real world to help the community and ecosystem, and more.


The Earthfamily is a real-life open membership community that formed in the spring of 1998 to help promote peace, pacifism, spirituality, ecology, bartering and love. The initial beginnings of this group formulated on the Grateful Dead chat forums on America Online, but quickly became a host for people of similar interests to me, help their communities and socialize. this was one of the earliest "real life" movements to use the internet to locate and communicate with it's members on an exclusive basis.

The group's founder Mike "Pappy" Morris, initially posted a dissertation on peace and community within the Grateful Dead forum, and was contacted by several readers who wanted to share similar thoughts, ideas and concepts with fellow like-minded individuals.

From there, a nightly email was sent out to anyone who wished to receive it. The email was a colorful compilation of stories, pictures, bartering offers, thoughts and ideals from both Mike Morris and all of the fellow Earthfamily members. The name Earthfamily quickly became known within the Phish and Grateful Dead forums, and many people joined daily. Small meetings began to take place at concerts and coffee shops between members, as well as organizing assistance for volunteer events. The group did not limit itself to being an online forum or internet community. The first large gathering of Earthfamily Members was unofficially held at the Further Festival in Tinley Park, Illinois in 2008.

As the Family grew into the hundreds of members, manually keeping up with all of the emails, group communications, meeting plans and activity rosters became a daunting task. At this time, a very active Family member named Petrina (Last name unknown) assisted in keeping the communications and events running smoothly. This carried on until it was no longer feasible to operate such a mass communication via America Online.

On October 28th, 1998, the Earthfamily switched over to keeping in communicaton on Yahoo Groups. Mike Morris was the moderator, assisted by Petrina. The forum gained members over the years, but postings on ceased in early 2002. Many members still stayed in contact via email, but the Earthfamily itself went officially on hiatus.

On October 10th, 2007, Mike "Pappy" Morris officially declared the movement as active again, and began recruiting new members and regrouping old ones on MySpace. Within the first 24 hours, the Family grew by over fifty members, and is currently operating upon the same initial beliefs and principals that the Family was initially founded upon almost a decade before. The movement has members from several countries, and hosts peaceful outings known as "Family Picnics", helps converge local members to preform volunteer work in their communities and promotes the growth of barter-system living. The Family is open to all people of like-mindedness that wish to contribute a positive message to the world around them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luvmytat2s (talkcontribs) 21:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Help Exchange entry deletion

Greetings Number 57. You deleted my entry for Help Exchange due to "blatant advertising". While I do favor the organization, I limited myself to stating facts in composing the article, remaining as objective as I could. As only a user of the Help Exchange site, I stand to make no profit from promoting it.

I am aware that I mentioned some of the benefits of HelpX, but I thought of it as informative rather than as advertising. In contrasting it against WWOOF, I merely sought to give Wiki users the opportunity to look into both organizations, as they essential offer the same opportunities. If these were bad decisions, I apologize and beseech your advise in editing the article.

If it is the notability of the organization you object, I believe the numbers argue for themselves. HelpX is, I believe, in its 6th year of operation and has tens of thousands of users globally. As a member of the WWOOFing community as well as HelpX in Australia, I find the two organizations to be of nearly equal prevalence. Truth be told, I used the Misplaced Pages entry for WWOOF as my rough guide in writing my entry for Help Exchange.

I thank you for your time and hope to hear your advice. Regards, Douglas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freeofgod (talkcontribs) 23:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

run baby run

Why do you delete record - Run baby run book? Nawrocony 13:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)Nawrocony

helpx deletion

re message contesting your ruling helpx is blatant commercial do you reply explaining or is your decision un-appealable Doug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.97.184 (talk) 23:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Robert Stanco

Hi There. I am a college student, doing a paper on one our Alumni who is a writer. His name is Robert Stanco. He also contributed several short fictional stories to "men's magazines" (i.e., Penthouse, etc.), under the pseudonym "J. Trotter." When my paper was completed, I thought it was pretty good and, since there was no information on Mr. Stanco anywhere on the 'net, I decided to create a Misplaced Pages article for him.

After I submitted the article to Misplaced Pages, I was so excited with my work that I emailed Mr. Stanco to show him his Misplaced Pages entry. Unfortunately, he was not happy with the article. He mildly took issue with my portrayal of his work as "a commercial failure", but he was downright furious that I had listed his (numerous) arrests in the article. He asked that I either delete my references to his criminal record, or pull the article entirely.

In the meantime, I had been notified by several Misplaced Pages staff members that my article was marked for "speedy deletion", due to Mr. Stanco's "lack of notability", whatever that is. I disagreed, and temporarily contested its candidacy for deletion on the grounds that Mr. Stanco is somewhat of a public figure in his hometown of Oceanside, New York. His arrest in 2004 was covered by the local television and print news media on Long Island. In fact, I have, in my possession, a VHS video tape of the news coverage of his arrest for bank robbery in December 2004.

However, based on all the resistance I was getting from the Misplaced Pages staff and Mr. Stanco himself, I decided to simply pull the entire article, rather than fight on two fronts.

I have saved the text and "Wiki formatting" of my article and fully intend to re-submit it after the publication of his next book. This time I will fight to have it made permanent. Qwerty1001 06:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

CenterStage Wiki

Hi,

Why was the CenterStage Wiki deleted? I can't see what I've done wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Overture8 (talkcontribs) 19:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

canadian hills church of the nazarene

This report was made in hopes to preserve my church history. Everything in the article is original. Nothing has been taken from another source, but is my work. I have permission from my church to put this on so that all members and furture ones can see how the church started. Please give me more information on why this was deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BFTerrel (talkcontribs) 11:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Israel Segal

Thank you for adding his birthdate and Hebrew name. :) While I may be able to puzzle information out of articles using the Latin alphabet, other language are, well, Greek to me. I find Hebrew beautiful and absolutely opaque. --Moonriddengirl 12:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I dont get it. Why do you strongly discourage me from editing the article again. How am I suppose to correct my wrongs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Overture8 (talkcontribs) 20:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

DBOLRL

why did you delete DBOLRL from the Misplaced Pages ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1biscuits (talkcontribs) 20:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Lehigh Dialogue Center

You should check the website before you delete the entry as "no relevance". I beg to differ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bozkurt1 (talkcontribs) 03:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

CenterStage

I can assure you that I'm not involved in the CenterStage project. I'm just a visitor to their forums. Most of the text I got from different parts of their site, which is the reason why it isn't written in the style that wiki demands. I will clean this up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Overture8 (talkcontribs) 08:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Tokyo Diner

I am the original author of the page on Tokyo Diner. I see that you have taken an interest in this page, and I must thank you for your efforts to keep up the standards of Misplaced Pages.

I was delighted to see that other members of the Misplaced Pages community had made improvements to the page. They appear to have been satisfied with the criteria for CSD A7. Clearly, however, you are not satisfied and I would be grateful if you could give me guidance on how to improve the page.

Unfortunately, you deleted the page before I had a chance to save a copy of all the improvements that other people have made. I am new to Misplaced Pages: could you tell me if there is any way to find the content of the page from just before your deletion?

Thanks in advance. Richard Szumlicki 11:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


Hi there. I deleted the article because it still failed to state why the subject is significant or important. Being a restaurant is not enough to merit an article on Misplaced Pages. Why is Tokyo Diner special? Is it the largest restaurant in London? Did an important event occur there? Has it been covered by independent third party sources such as newspapers or the BBC (I don't believe restaurant reviews count).

It also appears that you are the same person as User:Tokyodiner, which suggests that you are involved with the restaurant. If so, you should read WP:COI and I strongly suggest discontinuing your edits regarding this subject. Thanks, пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello пﮟოьεԻ 57, thank you for your response. As you know, I am new to editing in Misplaced Pages, and I must say it has been quite a steep learning curve! I am now beginning to understand how the Misplaced Pages community works and how its pages’ quality and accuracy are maintained at such a high standard.

You are right in assuming that I am involved with Tokyo Diner; however, I have now studied Misplaced Pages’s rules, standards and traditions and I am completely committed to respecting them.

I would still like to edit a page on Tokyo Diner, and I hope that I will have the maturity to do so without any COI. Ultimately that will be for others to decide. I have read WP:COI, and I understand that I must “exercise great caution” and “be sure to write in a neutral tone and cite reliable, third-party published sources”.

I am also aware that “conflict of interest is not a reason to delete an article, but lack of notability is.” I now see that my page was far short of the notability that one would expect from a leading encyclopedia. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

You asked if Tokyo Diner has been covered by newspapers or the BBC. As it happens, there have been a number of quality newspaper articles about Tokyo Diner, and the BBC has made a TV program about it.

It will take me a few days of research, but I hope to be able to re-edit the page with some much more noteworthy information and several really robust citations.

Once again, thank you for your input and your response. R.S.

P.S. Whilst trying to ‘learn the ropes’, I enjoyed reading the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers Richard Szumlicki 23:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello Richard. Apologies for the delay in replying - I had several other messages soon after yours and I must have missed it. Anyway, if you can provide the links to the BBC or other newspaper articles about the restaurant, then the article will indeed meet WP:NOTABILITY criteria and will not be deleted. I welcome your admittance that you have a COI, and your committment to "exercise great caution". If you rewrite the article, please let me know so that I can add any guidance you may need. Also, as an admin, I am fully aware of WP:BITE; I don't believe that my comment above was overly harsh - merely stating the facts as they are. However, if you were offended I apologise, and I hope you enjoy some fruitful contributions to the project. Regards, пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello пﮟოьεԻ 57. Thank you for taking the time and trouble to write with such courtesy. Of course, your comments were not harsh: now that my page is up, I totally agree with you!

I have seen the improvements you have made to the page, and I am delighted with them. I am also very much looking forward to seeing how other people develop the page...

Irishguy has made an observation about COI, and I have written to assure him of my commitment to WP’s rules, standards and traditions. In order to be completely transparent about possible COI on this page, I am thinking of logging on in future as “tokyodiner”. Please let me know if this is not appropriate.

Once again, thank you for all the time and effort you devote to WP. Kind regards, Richard.

P.S. I have been telling my friends and colleagues about how thrilling it was when the page finally made the grade. One of them is a tremendously gifted proof-reader, and now that he knows how easy it is to edit, he has already started correcting spelling and punctuation whenever he finds errors on WP. Richard Szumlicki 22:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Clarification: Seacoast Energy Committee Alliance

Number 57,

I am contacting you pursuant to the Wiki guidelines requesting reconsideration of your deletion of the above entry: Seacoast Energy Committee Alliance. The apparent deletion tracks the "speedy deletion" criterion for failure to provide importance of the entry. While we know recognize that this information was not provided in the appropriate section of the entry, we are requesting the ability to have the entry restored so that we may comply with this requirement. As you already know from our limited number of contributions, we are only learning to use the Wiki-way of communications and it is quite a bit to take in all at once. That being said, we have truly learned our first lesson. This is not a copyrighted entry and verification of sources will be provided upon restoration.

If you are so inclined to restore, we will be providing the following listing of materials for support of this entry:

1. This is a group of municipalities, academics, citizens, and other stakeholders (almost all of whom are independently listed on Wiki, we were only able to provide one listing before deletion) who are forming to address concerns related to energy efficiency and climate change in New Hampshire.

2. This group is providing significant grassroots support for objective steps to take to research, support, and build on issues related to energy inventory, benchmarking, and audits.

3. This is NOT a for-profit entity seeking advertising. It has been referenced and supported by local newspapers, educational, and governmental institutions, and citizens.

4. The Alliance is providing support and outreach and is a fast-growing collaboration that represents a new American grassroots response to concerns related to energy and climate change.

Thank you for considering, and please excuse our oversight on the rules for Wiki.

We respectfully request that you restore the "Seacoast Energy Committee Alliance" So that we can further expand this noteworthy entry and comply fully with the Wiki requirements for a new page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clayaz23 (talkcontribs) 15:33, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


Number 57,

Thank you for your reply, I have reviewed the WP:COI. While I admit to being a citizen of one of the Town's covered by this entity, my limited involvement does not, in and of itself, pursuant to the COI policy make a "conflict": "Merely participating in or having professional expertise in a subject is not, by itself, a conflict of interest."

This is, objectively speaking, a new organization, and your concern regarding my writing is misinformed. I am not "advertising". Our goal is to inform, as citizens, what this entity is, what it is doing, and how that entity is providing education, topical insight, and relating other organizations so that others may learn. Many of the other groups which are cited on wiki to their work on energy efficiency and climate change. The reason you found 4 hits on google is because the group was previously known by the burdensome name "rockingham/strafford energy committee alliance", which is still difficult to extract from the google-world. I do not believe that google hits is a very good source for making a determination of importance, particularly where such an organization has only begun to grow into google-based relevance.

"Misplaced Pages content is intended to be factual, notable, verifiable with external sources, and neutrally presented, with external sources cited."

Our subject is factual, it is notable, and it is verifiable. Since their are no bright line rules over these definitions, the early manifestation of such a group appears to satisfy these criteria, and again, we respectfully ask you to undelete the page so that we may modify the content, if necessary to comply with the requirements of the wiki guidelines.

It has been difficult to provide objective information about climate change, the IPCC conclusions, and what energy efficiency options are available to United States citizens and local governments with our current federal government.

Thank you, again, for considering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clayaz23 (talkcontribs) 16:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

FINAL COMMENT

I respect your decision on this matter and will continue to try and learn the ropes by diversifying my understanding of the guidelines for edits and creating pages. That being said, however, I think some new users might find it more beneficial if you would try to be a little more helpful and kind to those users who are trying to learn about wiki, especially when you are deleting their work. I realize that this is just an opinion and that there is a significant amount of abusive behavior on wiki having spent some time reviewing the policies, guidelines, and essays, but, it is my understanding that the general idea here is to help people learn and grow; or in the words of the policy page, making this site "a pleasant experience for everyone". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clayaz23 (talkcontribs) 21:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

'Carl Riseley' page deleted - query

I am wondering why the page which I had started on Carl Riseley was deleted. He is one of the Top 6 contestants in Australia Idol 2007 and I would love to start a page on him if possible. Was it because I had no links to verify who he was etc. Hope to hear from you soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathybrio236 (talkcontribs) 02:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Sanglant article

Goodday,

I would like to know why you speedily deleted my stub called "Sanglant"? It says that it was deleted due to lack of content, etc. but the whole point was to make a reference page to Kate Elliott's character Sanglant in her book King's Dragon and the subsequent books of her Crown of Stars series. Could you please inform me as to your reasons? Thanks

Jingizu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jingizu (talkcontribs) 09:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

i heard blind reverts are frowned upon

I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you told me you added some material, but when going over your changes it looks more like a blind revert that not only shortens the Irit Linur letter (reasonable) but also removes sources and other information. i'm interested to hear your explanation about ALL the changes before i consider any other steps. Jaakobou 08:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

tell you what, fix whatever you do find, and i'll go afterwards and blind revert without reading the changes or the talk page (like you did to me). if your entire involvement in an article is that your POV friends (G-Dett, Nishidani) are "working" on it, then you can't blame me for being a tad miffed by blind reverts that remove both information and sources - this without even reading them. can you tell me what brought you to the article because i don't see you ever working on it before. back to the main point: i'm not "planning" a blind revert, but i do expect you to take a more neutral stance and not to mass revert me like this based on some allegiance with POV pushers. i've assembeled some info into that article (not just Irit Linur) and now it's no longer there - and i thought we were working to make an encyclopedia *shrug* Jaakobou 15:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Please stop inserting the overly-long criticism section to the Gideon Levy. It is a blatant violation of WP:NPOV#Undue weight. Thank you. пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

i shortened it myself (after re-inserting all the blanketed material) and we can discuss shortening it further - your warning is more than ridiculous - you've removed information and sources from the article with a blind revert and now you give me a warning notice?! Jaakobou 20:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
btw, your unexplained source removal here, resulted in the removal of the term "left wing" in the folowing edit - please fix this issue. Jaakobou 20:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
  1. i suggest we expand on his political beliefs - both that and the criticism that follows are a major part of the public perception on him (i.e. his notability). i expanded some on both - but mostly on the criticism, i leave it to people who prefer his POV to ADD materials to the article ('ADD' being the key word). note also that the article was marked as a stub - so the "deletionist" attitude (personally, seeing exactly who edited before you came along - nickhh, G-Dett, Nishidani, Abu Ali - and made your first ever edit on the article. i tend to interpret it as a bold group effort of promoting the POV shared by you and your friends) seems counter productive to the encyclopedia in my opinion.
  2. i've already allowed some funny sites when the report was on topics they'd be considered reliable. i find no exceptional reason to feel that article was a fake Gideon Levi article - and it seemed like a good english source to back up the (not contenteous at all) note that he's considered a leftist.
-- Jaakobou 06:04, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Page delete

Hi 57! You deleted article about SoftServe, the largest IT outsourcing company in Ukraine, which employs more than 900 people. I think, that information about SoftServe could be interesting for many people. I started this article with some basic information about the comapny and plan to add more information to the article. Could you please restore the content and I promise to rewrite it according to the Misplaced Pages rules in day or two. Could you please also give me any advise how to do it better and what mistakes I have made. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andriych (talkcontribs) 09:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your advise! Hope this time it works. Regards --Andriych 19:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

CenterStage

So can I try again without the risk of being banned?? Take this in to consideration http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers and believe me when I say I am honestly trying to contribute a legitimate wiki page regarding the CenterStage software. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Overture8 (talkcontribs) 12:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Sim2Travel

Hi 57,

You deleted the wiki entry I made on the grounds of Notability. Sim2Travel is redeveloping the way mobile (cell phone) technology works and is routed to provide both local access and connectivity. This essentially makes a call from, say, the US to China a local call, and anyone in china can make a local call to reach the user anywhere in the world at local rates. This could viably affect the way millions of cell phone users communicate internationally.

I hope that you would see this as a notable technology in the same sort of light as VOIP is a valuable technology.

I kindly request that you re-instate the entry so I can further explain its function.

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquilus1 (talkcontribs) 07:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


2girls1cup

I am wanting to contest the deletion of 2girls1cup.com. It has recently become a popular Shock Site and I feel it should have it's own article. "2girls1cup" brings up 167,000 results in Google. What should I do, or do I have to do to assert notability for this website? Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 19:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Sim2Travel References

Unfortunately, 57, I am quite discouraged by your attitude. Your qualification for what is notable is severely lacking. I imagine that you are not familiar with some of the more complex principles of telecommunications - thats fine - but to presume that everyone else would not find this a notable, and indeed valuable, explanation of a method by which the world can move towards convergence and interconnectivity is foolish for you to judge.

Case in point - you said "The fact that it gets only 73 hits on Google suggests that it is not well known". That is true. However, "Wallis and Futuna Territorial Assembly" (a post you made) receives less than a third of that, yet you seem to find it notable.

If you saw the entry as border-line advertising, I absolutely encourage you to add to the article and any contra-argument. Indeed, I think it is important to compare its functionality to other competing services (i.e. VOIP, Standard Roaming, etc) To the best of my knowledge, however, this is the only service that provides multiple MNO access to a mobile without charging a roaming fee internationally. I also note that marking an article for "Speedy Deletion" requires BLATANT advertising "Note that simply having a company or product as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion."

With regards to notability, I have reviewed the wikipedia guidlines, and encourage you to review the following articles: http://www.communicasia.com/press_2007/list_pressrelease3.asp?ID=3&company=Symsoft&Show=CommunicAsia (Note:the world’s first roaming mobile virtual network operator) http://investing.businessweek.com/businessweek/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=10636018 (Note:With its presence in the region, the company will be able to provide advanced solutions for charging, messaging and IP services corresponding to current and evolving requirements.)

Finally, I think you should consider what exactly an encyclopedia is - Dictionary.com seems to think that it is: "a book or set of books containing articles on various topics, usually in alphabetical arrangement, covering all branches of knowledge or, less commonly, all aspects of one subject.". This is knowledge, and great things begin small. Consider Google, if you will, as you seem to place a great deal on its credibility of determining notability. Consider this - can you name any other service that acts as a rMVNO (roaming Mobile Virtual Network Operator)? If you cannot, I urge you to consider this noteworthy and reinstate the article so I may further elaborate.

Aquilus

Btw - I have no intention of dropping this as it seems you are notorious for deleting others input. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquilus1 (talkcontribs) 23:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Step 7 clubs deletion

I would support the deletion of all club articles that haven't played a) at the equivalent of today's step 6 leagues or higher, or b) in the FA Cup in the dim distant past. I was using the Teesside Athletic one as a test case, if it passes I will certainly nominate more. Another user has tried speedy nominating one of the clubs in the Brighton & Hove league but this has been rejected. User Siva1979 is frantically creating more and more Step 7 club articles despite being told on more than one occasion that these have no notability, and that Step 6/Level 10 is a reasonable guideline. He/she is currently working on Cambridgeshire League clubs. - fchd 07:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Deputy leaders of Israel

It can be misleading, though (to non-Israelis). When I first came across Livni article and saw Acting Prime Minister, my first reaction was to go to Ehud Olmert, and check up on his incapacitation. For most countries, Acting tends to mean 'performing the boss's duties'. That's why I figured Deputy or Vice was a more proper title (as she wasn't performing PM duties). More so Deputy, as that's the title Olmert was described as under Sharon. I don't dispute the Israeli government's titles (anymore), but they're confusing. GoodDay 14:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the changes. I think the confusion also lies in the definition of Deputy and Vice. Both mean the same thing - 'to act in the place of' or Acting. GoodDay 14:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
There's just on more thing. I thought Olmert became Prime Minister when Sharon was 'removed from office' in April 2006? GoodDay 14:57, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I see Interim PM from April 14, 2006 until he (his party) won the rescheduled 2006 general election (then he became PM). I think you might want to check the Ehud Olmert article, it's currently not conforming with these facts. GoodDay 15:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
You may want to check Yitzhak Rabin and Yitzhak Shamir, those articles also have erroneously left out Acting Prime Minister. GoodDay 15:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Shalom. GoodDay 15:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Fear of God (LA)

Why have you deleted the article which I created ten minutes ago? I was still in process of editing it. -- Vision Thing -- 18:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Fear of God (LA). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Vision Thing -- 10:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Goofy14

Technically not my fault. Whoever this guy is, he doesn't sign his name properly; he literally signs it goofy14, so when you click on the name... HalfShadow 19:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Types of bet

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from the four pages - Heinz (bet), Double (bet), Treble (bet) and Trixie (bet) - within 12 hours of them being posted. You have failed to even leave comments on the appropriate discussion pages that others could respond to. I fail to see why you think it necessary to have these 4 pages still in existence when all the relevant information is included in one or other of two detailed articles covering the whole topic of types of bets and the mathematics of settling such bets. Why do we have to have needless repetition? There is not a single page that even links to the page Heinz (bet)! I agree that the topics are notable which is why they are included in detail in either 'Mathematics of bookmaking' or 'Glossary of bets offered by UK bookmakers'. Have you even read these two pages to see where the information I propose to delete from the 4 pages has been integrated? AirdishStraus 19:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Raphael Lataster

Hello,

The article on Raphael Lataster is significant as Aramaic primacy is a significant force in Christianity. It is a belief that is prevalent in Eastern Christianity and gaining more acceptance in Western Christianity. Raphael Lataster is one of the main promoters of this movement, working through his website and his book, which is the most popular book on the topic, due to it's comprehensiveness (nearly 300 pages) and its price (free).

It is noteworthy that Paul Younan has a wikipedia article dedicated to him, despite the fact that he has been inactive in the field for at least a year and his website is down. Lataster's website is not down, and is the most viewed website on the Peshitta, verified by Alexa's ranking which shows that AramaicPeshitta.com is in the top 1.3million websites while Peshitta.org is outside the top 2 million. Raphael Lataster is mentioned in 3 wikipedia articles.

Please reactivate the Raphael Lataster article.

p.s. It is also noteworthy that Raphael Lataster is only 23 years old and early last year had nothing but debt. Now he has a portfolio of property and shares and has started a career as a financial planner. Being someone who grew up with abuse and poverty, he has managed to turn his life completely around in under one year. He is currently writing books on the troubles in the Pharmaceutical industry (he is a pharmacist also) and a "Rags to Riches" type book chronicling his rapid rise from poverty to relative wealth. According to his website and forum, he intends to use much of his resources to promote Aramaic primacy on a greater scale in the near future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.8.26 (talk) 21:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Multi-Image Manager

Several folks in the mainframe computing community have been trying to seed Misplaced Pages with articles about key technologies in the mainframe field. I have added and updated several entries in this area (GRS, Access method, OS/390, etc.) to try to gain momentum in the topic. MIM is a key technology historically, in that it was the first software technology enabling IBM mainframes to share peripherals (some 7 years before the advent of GRS, 13 before Sysplex, and 18 before Parallel Sysplex. To this day, MIM continues to provide serialization and systems management capability among many of the top users of mainframe technology.

Looking at Misplaced Pages, one can see many articles about computer software, beyond hardware platforms (e.g IBM PC), software platforms (e.g. DOS, MS-DOS, Windows, Linux)) to include ubiquitous software like Internet Explorer and Lotus 1-2-3. Clearly, mainframe technology is not as well known as PC software, it has had at least an equal profound impact on the advancement of computing technology as anything in the Windows, Unix, world.

I started the article with the intent of having someone far more expert than I to flesh it out (users and architects). —Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottFagen (talkcontribs) 21:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

advice

Hi Number 57, I'm a new Wikipedian on the block. I just started getting involved so please be patient with me. Like you, I'm interested in Israeli politics, science, and sports. I started contributing today and had quite a few unpleasnat surprises. I'd like to correspond with you but I don't want the whole world to see my messages. How do I do that? Best regards Firstamend 06:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletions (re: bets)

Then how about offering suggestions to how else one may go about removing these superfluous articles? It's okay saying "don't do this, don't do that..." but offering novices like me some advice with a friendly word is more in line what the ethos of what being a Wikipedian is all about, surely? I'm happy to learn how to "do it right" if someone takes the opportunity to advise me. AirdishStraus 08:57, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. My initial comments were the normal reaction of of anyone who has actions contested with no helpful information other than an officious statement. People have feelings and naturally react to challenge (as a teacher/lecturer I have to initially always act with "kid gloves" when dealing in all respects with students). All I want to do is improve the information on WP in my area of expertise, and to this end I will accept any amount of friendly advice. I think that it is better to assume that people are not experts in the ways of Wiki-editing and therefore take the time to offer helpful advice in the first instance rather than have people react (as I did) in a defensive manner. Once again though, thank you for your advice. AirdishStraus 11:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Could use some help Please

I can see right now you are deleting stuff well right now i am tagging bad new pages for CDS. Then I came on to Cars.com which i beleve falls under A7 guide lines for CSD. Well it seem that the preson that created it was an Admin. As you can see ive been tagging things for a while now with no problems then this come up. My questionn is does this fall under A7 for CSD and is the creator of that page allowed to remove the tag or is there some other proecess that needs to be done. thanks for the help Yourname 00:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Douglas M. Berger

Hi 57,

"No assertion of importance/significance"

Dr. Berger has published a number of scientific articles, including one in a top tier scientific magazine, SCIENCE. He is one of a very few Western psychiatrists to practice in Japan long-term, and he has made scientific contributions to the study of schizophrenia, dissociative disorders, suicide in medical patients, and the development of antidepressants in Japan. For these reasons, I believe a stub is an appropriate type of page for this clinician and scientist. Please see "Antidepressants in Japan" as this includes references to his past work and is part of the WikiProject Japan. I wish to improve this and add more Japan related articles.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Menicos (talkcontribs) 01:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Need to provide more information regarding Moshavim

You had removed the Kibbutz Infobox from the article about Ein Ayala. I understand the reason for the removal, but underlying my insertion of said and your following action, there is a deep need to provide a template - infobox that will suffice both articles on kibbutzim and moshavim.

The 2 settlements/organizations are fairly similar, and would benefit from a coherent means to display information about both. If there is a separate infobox for moshavim, please point me to it, if not, please help me modify usage so that the infobox developed for articles on kibbutzim can also be reused for describing moshavim.

I hve added my suggestion to the discussion on Infobox kibbutz.

Many thanks, SZAgassi18:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

?

You are obviously entitled to change your opinion, but you are actually opposing a proposal that you suggested (changing the name/scope) and supported in the previous discussion. Tewfik 22:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

"Knesset is not possibly in a future Palestinian state"

That's a ridiculous statement, by the way. Unless you're a soothsayer. Robert Ham 08:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I've opened up a new discussion on the Talk page for Knesset. I'd appreciate your response. Robert Ham 13:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Again, I've responded to your comments. Robert Ham 22:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Channel 1 (Israel).gif

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Sim2Travel Google in China

Very well numbers, I duly note the Territorial Assembly of Wallis & Futuna. I am not here to question its notability, simply seeking balance. I dont see how you being the author or not matters with respect to my reference. Its funny, though, that by defending the Assembly, you indeed helped me in illustrating why Sim2Travel is notable. I will expand below.

Take a look here: Sim2Travel References Taiwan (455 Google Hits)

Numbers, I apologize the context of the previous linking in your discussion was misconstrued. The links were not intended as unique references, they were there to illustrate that both Newsweek, Symsoft, and CommunicAsia find Sim2Travel notable, even if you do not. Additionally, one link provided at the very minimum 14 sentences of reference to Sim2Travel while the other provided 4. These links not being included in my wiki-post aside, while some may see it as advertising, the Wiki code uses the phrasing BLATANT advertising as the criteria.

Advertising is not inherently bad, either, especially when taken to mean "to give information to the public about; announce publicly in a newspaper, on radio or television, etc."

So, if this addresses the question of notability and your concerns about advertising, I will look forward to the un-deletion of the snippet so I may further expound and enhance the article. Should you disagree, please try and reply with specific deficiencies that need to be emphasized for your satisfaction citing, directly, their grounds. I look forward to your timely response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquilus1 (talkcontribs) 03:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

KitKat Crescent

Hi. The name of this stadium is KitKat Crescent, not the former name, Bootham. It is simply no longer Bootham. Its not like a league, like Premier League being known as the "Barclays Premiership", this is the actual name of the facility. Mattythewhite 15:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we need a new discussion at WP:FOOTY. I'll bring one up. Mattythewhite 16:08, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Your reversion on Banks's Stadium

Thank you for your note on my userpage concerning your reversion of my page move. I have answered there. The discussion above (about the Kit Kat Crescent) is relevant. B1atv 17:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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WWE Diva Searcg

Please see WP:REDLINK. Just because something doesn't have an article yet is not reason enough to de-link it (not saying you were right or wrong, just letting you know). TJ Spyke 02:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Monash City FC

Hello Number 57, you have deleted our article we were creating on Monash City FC. We had only just begun to develop the club history page and significance. The Club is regionally significant within Victoria and nationally significant within Australia as centre of excellence for developing elite youh football players. In 2005 the Club won the International Youth Cup and has State Team representatives in each age group from U12 to U15. Our Club has also developed the youngest female player to enter the Victorian Institute of Sport and has produced our first A League Player, Steven O'Dor. Steven is also U20 International. We have adopted the Clairefontaine Institute approach to developing talented footballers I see from your profile you are in England so may have lack of understanding of our football culture. In Australia it is development clubs such as ours which produce talented players for senior clubs or to enter Institutes. We do not have an FA Academy style system that underpins the professional clubs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferns200 (talkcontribs) 04:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC) Ferns200 05:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Magento entry

Hello

I think it's wrong you deleted Magento page on Misplaced Pages. This is an evolving open-source, free project that is really going to "rule" in the e-commerce world during next years due to very poor open-source and free alternatives (like oscommerce). If you removed Magento entry why you didn't remove oscommerce then?

Thank you Piotr Kaminski —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.128.14.110 (talk) 11:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Re Lucas Entertainment (studio)

Thank you for deleting Lucas Entertainment (studio). Could you please look into deleting the redirect from Lucas Entertainment? -- (I'm not sure I'm wording my request correctly, but you know what I mean). Thanks! --72.76.102.219 21:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Integration Consortium

Hello 57, I discovered that you had deleted the page for the Integration Consortium and am confused by your actions. We are a non profit industry body that facilitates collaboration, standards support and development, education and communication on the area of enterprise integration (data, applications, systems, people, companies). I have noticed that most of our peer organizations also have Misplaced Pages pages with their content loaded on the site (OMG, Open Group, OASIS, W3C...) and would like to understand what we need to do to make the IC work and content available to the Misplaced Pages users? Any insight you can give us will be very much appreciated. By the way, you have a typo on your Ashington A.F.C. page. ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MkuhbocK (talkcontribs) 23:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Civilty

You stated that I have a problem. You also implied that I am aggrieved by wikipedia. Both are condescending and insulting. If you are to condemn me for insulting you, don't turn around and insult me in that condemnation. That is the height of hypocrisy. And removing the warning from your talk page? My word. Robert Ham 10:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Rushmere, Suffolk

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Deletion of First Baptist Church, Memphis, Tennessee

I'm still new at this. At a loss as to reason for deletion, as this is an ongoing project that I have undertaken as the church's archivist. I noted that the significance of the congregation was as the first Southern Baptist church established in Memphis in 1839, making it the church from which all other Southern Baptist churches in Memphis and its suburbs were established. Its historical significance since its founding can be documented. FBCMemphisArchivist 20:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by FBCMemphisArchivist (talkcontribs) 20:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Article Deletion

Why did you delete the article that I created today. The article is not blatant advertising. The article is meant to show the difference between different types of couplings for different mechanical applications. Several companies offer these types of couplings. R+W wrote this article to inform all consumers of the benefits of certain type of couplings. We are not saying that our couplings are better than others. Please let me know how this is considered to be advertising. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bconner (talkcontribs) 21:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Flexible Shaft Couplings

Can we not just remove the link and the "brought to you by"?

THe article itself is not bias in any way. It was written to inform engineers of the considerations involved in choosing a coupling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bconner (talkcontribs) 21:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Atomic Swindlers

Hey. I noticed you deleted the talk page for Atomic Swindlers, giving the rationale that it's a talk page for an article that doesn't exist. Atomic Swindlers was deleted, and I recreated it fixing the problem that caused it to be deleted in the first place. The article DID exist at the time you deleted the talk page. Applejuicefool 13:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for reinstating the article. Please feel free to discuss any changes you feel it needs to remain undeleted. Applejuicefool 15:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Judith Hornbogen

Hello,

I wrote an article about Judith Hornbogen and it was deleted. I think because of a lack of significance.

Please confirm what was wrong with the article so I can fix it, if possible.

I think she is a good artist that deserves to be listed on Wiki and her works can be viewed online and she is an actual graduate from a proper art academy. I was hoping to collect more info on her to augment the article but I don't want to waste my time either.

If you do not think she is significant enough, let me know

Thanks, Simon Wakefield (Simonwakefield 19:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC))

Seeking Clarifaction

Number 57,

I am unsure about why you deleted a page I created about the musician Jack Clift.

This page was vandalized at the beginning of October and populated with spurious nonsensical material. You deleted this page on October 6th. Last week, noting the "No assertion of importance" qualification, I rewrote the page

with links to at least ten collaborators with their own wikipedia entries.  I also referenced a

project of unprecedented scope that is of cultural significance in multiple nations, the collaboration with John Carter Cash.

I am currently preparing the text to be translated into both Uzbek and Russian to add to the those language's Wikipedias.

Mr. Clift had a composition that was licensed by the 1996 Summer Olympics. He co-produced 2 projects last year for Minneapolis record label Soulfood. One of these albums, Trantric Chill was the label's biggest seller in CDs and downloads.

if there any other issues besides the notablilty factor, please let me know.

thank you for your prompt attention to this matter,

Ben

Seeking Clarifaction

Number 57,

I am unsure about why you deleted a page I created about the musician Jack Clift.

This page was vandalized at the beginning of October and populated with spurious nonsensical material. You deleted this page on October 6th. Last week, noting the "No assertion of importance" qualification, I rewrote the page with links to at least ten collaborators with their own wikipedia entries. I also referenced a project of unprecedented scope that is of cultural significance in multiple nations, the collaboration with John Carter Cash.

I am currently preparing the text to be translated into both Uzbek and Russian to add to the those language's Wikipedias.

Mr. Clift had a composition that was licensed by the 1996 Summer Olympics. He co-produced 2 projects last year for Minneapolis record label Soulfood. One of these albums, Trantric Chill was the label's biggest seller in CDs and downloads.

if there any other issues besides the notablilty factor, please let me know.

thank you for your prompt attention to this matter,

Ben —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcgumbrie (talkcontribs) 21:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Deleted article

Regarding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Islands_Phonecards_Database&action=submit

The site described in this article provides a service that phone cards collectors can NOT find anywhere else, neither online or offline. Its informational database is created by its users community. Please explain why it cannot be presented in an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiawe (talkcontribs) 16:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Ronen Bergman

Hi. Could you have a look at the article. It was created by User:Ronenbe. I have tagged it with COI and other tags, but am not sure what is the correct course of action regarding WP:Auto. Bergman probably satisfies WP:Notability, so I am reluctant to proceed to AfD. Derwig 17:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Category:Communal cities, towns and villages in Israel

I'm not sure about renaming until I understand how you envision the hierarchy. For example, what would prevent Category:Communal Israeli settlements from being created? I can support pragmatic changes, but I'm afraid that some of these changes will end up violating categorisation standards. Tewfik 02:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm still not sure that I understand. If you don't think Category:Communal Israeli settlements is a good idea, what is the issue? Tewfik 02:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Banks's Stadium

Please do not remove templates from articles as you did to the misnamed Bescot Stadium article until the issue is resolved. You know full well, because I have told you, that I am attempting to seek wider community consensus. So do not revert other people's flagging up what they beleive to be your POV approach to the article until the issue is resolved. Thank you. B1atv 08:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Administrator complaints

From your latest contribution on my talk page I understand that you are an administrator. I find this news somewhat shocking in light of your behaviour over the past few days. Can you please point me in the direction of where complaints about administrators can be made so that your status as an administrator can be reviewed? B1atv 09:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I second this. The following are very questionable actions by an administrator:
I'm sure there are other examples but these are the only ones I'm aware of. Robert Ham 10:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
So, if you think I've done something wrong, report me for it. I still don't think pointing out to an editor that he is being incivil is a breach of WP:CIVIL though, and I haven't used my admin powers in either dispute, so I'm not so sure how strong your case is. пﮟოьεԻ 57 10:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
How would such a report be made? Robert Ham 13:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
You could file a complaint on Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents if you really think you have a case. пﮟოьεԻ 57 13:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll leave that up to B1atv. Robert Ham 14:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Please see Misplaced Pages:Harassment#User_space_harassment, regarding repeatedly replacing warnings after the user has removed them. While it is discouraged, it's my understanding, that No.57 may remove things from his talk page. It is assumed, that they've been read when removed (SEE: WP:TALK#User_talk_pages). I'd like to remind all involved (everyone's obviously watching this talkpage), that 3RR is not an entitlement, and, that repeatedly going right up to 3rr, especially when doing so in a manner that could be seen as harassment, may be seen as gaming the system, and, is disruptive. Maybe everyone should walk away from whatever's causing the problem for a couple days, and cool off? SQL 21:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
User space harassment, eh? How curious that an administrator would indulge in such a thing.
I shall say no more. Robert Ham 21:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes strange that an admin should feel it important to make it clear that calling other editors morons and fools is an unacceptable breach of policy, especially when that user still maintains that he is not incivil. пﮟოьεԻ 57 22:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't maintaining that I wasn't uncivil; I was maintaining that you were. You were saying "You were wrong but I wasn't" and I was saying "I was wrong and you were wrong." That's where we differed; nothing to do with my behaviour, just yours. Robert Ham 07:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

(undent) I probably wouldn't have replaced the warning, but, that was once as opposed to six times. Plus, the diff provided seems much more, like restoring the conversation in order to continue it, rather than edit warring over userspace warnings. SQL 05:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Nobody replaced a warning six times; there are two instances of different people replacing a warning three times. Also, those people were not administrators. Robert Ham 07:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Your redirecting User:Jaakobou's user page

Hi Number 57: Why did you create a redirect on User Jaakobou (talk · contribs)'s main user page to his talk page? Did he ask you to do so? What relationship is there between you and User:Jaakobou that would have granted you the right to tamper with a user's page like that? I look forward to the explanation. Thanks a lot, IZAK 02:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Close Guantanamo flotilla

Hello,

I am a Human Rights Supporter and had created an article on the Close Guantanamo flotilla. It is a web action for a humanitarian cause that I think is both legitimate and necessary. It is not commercial neither is it an advertisement. It is merely information about the abhorrent practices in Guantanamo and what people can do to stop it. Can you please elaborate over why this article is 'blatant advertising'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amnesty Supporter (talkcontribs) 17:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


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Matt's Bar

I believe your deletion of the article Matt’s Bar on October 6, 2007, citing “CSD A7: No assertion of importance/significance”, to have been inappropriate.

Matt’s Bar is indeed an important/significant establishment and cultural entity in the Twin Cities, a major U.S. metropolitan area, as is evidenced, for example, by the numerous and consecutive awards it has received from notable and important sources such as the Star Tribune and City Pages. These awards were mentioned and properly referenced in the article that was deleted. To elaborate explicitly, to achieve a “best burger” award for ten consecutive years in an area with 3.5 million people and thousands of restaurants is certainly an indication that Matt’s is not an insignificant establishment. As such, I believe the speedy deletion to have been imprudent and unwarranted.

If my above assertion is incorrect, I hope you will respond with an explanation of what constitutes importance/significance. Otherwise, it is my intention to recreate the article. Elcobbola 16:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up: I’ve replied on my talk page. If you could take a moment to look it over, I’d be appreciative. Elcobbola 13:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Windward Studios

What is insignificant about the software studio that developed my favorite RTS game of the 90s? I am slightly offended as I realize the article may not have been perfect since I have little experience, but you could edit it rather than removing all of my work completely. I would love to gain more insight into that pages deletion, especially for future reference when I start other pages that interest me.

Follow up

Number 57,

I wrote to you previously. I have begun to collect links from the internet and from newspapers in new mexico. I was hoping you could undelete the page so I can begin to add secondary sources.

These links will be added, they include press:

http://backroadsmusic.com/index.php?p=album&aID=139870 http://www.soulfoodmusic.com/wr_cd_11a.cfm http://www.allegro-music.com/online_catalog.asp?sku_tag=SFD329

This page shows that Mr. Clift won a prestigious music industry awards as New Mexico's Best Producer.


http://www.nmmusic.com/awards/content/winners/1998_winners.htm


There will be more following.

Thank you,

(mcgumbrie) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcgumbrie (talkcontribs) 01:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Georgia

Just FYI, you got it slightly wrong -- the presidential election will be held in January, not the parliamentary one. I corrected it. In case you're interested -- the parliamentary election *might* be held early, as well; there'll be a referendum on the election date together with the presidential election. —Nightstallion 18:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Gladly, no problem. I had to check about a dozen different sources to make sure the referendum will certainly be held, and that it was not *only proposed* instead... —Nightstallion 19:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Yitzhak Rager

Thanks for your cleanup of this page, which I'd translated onscreen (a first for me! usually I copy the source text to a Word .doc file and produce the translation draft there). You obviously have a superior mastery of style and transliteration/transcription conventions. I'd be pleased to consult with you for assistance in my future attempts. -- Cheers, Deborahjay 06:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

NB: Good to know about the boulevard name not having entered current parlance. In fact, that's what prompted me to create the page and translate the article: it's the address printed on the business card of a colleague who lives there; the NPO she works for isn't mentioned (yet, nor in the Hebrew page). I contacted her because my daughter, a newly minted instructor in the IDF's Education and Youth Corps, was just posted to Beersheba for a five-week hitch and I wanted to learn a little about the city. Along the way I did a spot of buffing up other former mayors' pages. Always like to contribute something to Misplaced Pages as my way of paying back for the benefit I gain here. -- Deborahjay 12:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

...and I see you've done some more cleanup in my wake. Good going! -- Deborahjay 22:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Some thankyou spam

Thankyou for supporting my successful rfa which closed with 58 supports. If i am honest i am rather humbled by the unanimous support and i hope to live up to everyones expectations. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks again. Woodym555 13:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Veritas Deletion

Hello,

I've gone through this with another user and will now go through it with you. I recently took my GMAT exam and had to arduously go through the process of researching Test Prep companies. I was bent on using Princeton review (Since Kaplan does not have a very good reputation) but wanted courses that were more focused towards my academic pace. I happened upon the company Veritas Prep and used their services which I think were well suited to me. Now, I am looking into blogging about the GMAT and also adding entries to Misplaced Pages about the subject. My entry for Veritas Prep was informative in that it told people about the companies history. I was originally hesitant about spending over 1 thousand dollars on their course because I knew little about them, and think that people deserve to know that they are a legitimate company. Regardless, both Kaplan and Princeton review have Wiki pages.

Lastly, I've informed the company about the page and they are fine with its content and have been told not to use it to advertise. They claim that competitors falsely advertise on their Wiki page in order to have them removed. I don't know if this is true, but I will keep tabs on this contribution as well as others more diligently in the future to prevent such espionage.

I hope to contribute more about the process as I continue my own GMAT/MBA progress. So if there is another reason why you flagged the contribution, please let me know so that I can either remedy it or stop putting it back up.

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbadude (talkcontribs) 20:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


Slaughterhaus Five deletion

Hi there - I noticed you deleted my article on the Slaughterhaus Five project. Is there any way to access the deleted text so that I can continue working on it? I'm in the process of adding more context, citations and so forth, so if you could point mw towards the relevant delete logs, or if there's a way to retrieve the article so that I can resubmit it when it's been worked out a bit more, that would be much appreciated. Also, any pointers on where I went wrong would be very well recieved.

Thanks, Alias

Number 57, Will you kindly un-delete the Heather Thompson page? She was chosen as Sean "Diddy" Combs's YouTube Assistant on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Not only did she beat tens of thousands of other applicants for the position, but she was also chosen in front of an audience of millions of people. Moreover, the story was carried in both national and international publications, websites, and blogs. Her story included in Misplaced Pages as well. It is sufficiently newsworthy for inclusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spelmansweetie (talkcontribs) 01:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Jack Clift

Hello Number 57, I would appreciate it if you would respond to me concerning the article "Jack Clift". Can you please repost or send me the article that you deleted? thank you, Ben

I think something is wrong with your talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Mcgumbrie|Mcgumbrie]] (talkcontribs) 19:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I already replied on your talk page. пﮟოьεԻ 57 20:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I notified you above on this talk page that I had more materials: articles, awards and I have asked if you could supply me with the original text or repost the page. Will you? thanks, Mcgumbrie (talk

List of massacres during the Second Intifada

Talk:List of massacres during the Second Intifada Looking for outside input into a long-term controversy over the naming and scope of this list. As you participated in the afd, please help us out. Thanks. <<-armon->> 11:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

my RFA

If you voted in my RFA...

...thank you for your participation. I withdrew with 83 supports, 42 opposes, and 8 neutrals. Your kind words and constructive criticism are very much appreciated. I look forward to using the knowledge I have accrued through the process to better the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers and Wikidudeman for their co-nominations.


Thank you again and, best regards. VanTucky


This RFA thanks was inspired by LaraLove's

You killed our page... twice

Hi

I would really like to understand your reasoning for deleting the article that I submitted twice citing "No assertion of importance/significance" as your reason. What exactly are you expecting?

JAWUG is a large community driven non-profit organisation based in South Africa that is currently at the forefront of a number of technical and regulatory advancements in the South African telecommunications industry. I would appreciate some constructive criticism on the article as it is my first on wikipedia instead of just deleting my hours of effort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham.ambo (talkcontribs) 21:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Best of luck Graham,

Numbers killed my hours of work as well, ironically on telecomm as well. Except mine deals with Mobile Virtual Network Operators. Aquilus

Sim2Travel

I'm sorry, I had presumed we were talking apples to apples. Wallis and Fortuna, then, should not be 22,000 as you referenced but amended to 458 (not including wikipedia entries). You seem to be off by a power of 50x by your previous deducement. This begs the question: At what point does Google deem notability? As I hope you can tell, I find this particular subject quite important and fully intend to continue pursuing this.

Perhaps we can come to some sort of agreement: As it seems you are quite set on considering this to not be notable, I propose that if I am amble to find 10 other wikipedia entries that have fewer than 78 Google hits, without including omitted results, and present them here for your review you will then grant reinstatement.

I'm glad that you acquiesced on the advertising point, and that will no longer be an issue.

Else, I would ask you to forward me the protocol for pursuing this matter with another, or more senior, moderator. Additionally, I would appreciate some further clarification beyond a simple two sentence answer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquilus1 (talkcontribs) 01:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment about Problem

Hi Number 57, can you please take a look this discussion in reference to images that were uploaded from WWII in Color website, the copyright status is in question and there have been many users who are part of the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Aircraft who are upset about the Wiki Policy about image licensing WP:IUP. Thank you! -TabooTikiGod 06:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for the barnstar. Most of those contributions are actually images from various on line archives (see National Photo Collection), which I upload to commons. Again, thank you! Derwig 15:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Sim2Travel

I'm trying to understand where you are coming from and on what grounds notability can be determined empirically. My perspective is not lost, as you suggest, for I am fully aware that there are those out there that find the Territorial Assembly of Wallis & Futuna noteworthy and have never disputed that(Please review my previous wording regarding my analogy to the thread). I am also aware that there are many people out there interested in telecommunications including the Economic Daily News , Ming News , Joint News Network , and many others, not the least of which is FarEasTone and China Mobile, however.

I apologize if my meaning of acquiesce did not make sense, as I understood what you wrote to mean that the advertising point is not an issue here. The use of acquiesce was, thereby, meant to mean to assent tacitly; submit or comply silently or without protest; agree; consent.

Assuming you have no other issues with the thread, simply please, what do you need to see to deem this notable and reinstate it?

I will pursue the course of action you suggest if you continue to dispute what the news agencies mentioned above deem notable.

Regards

Deletions

Hey there. I see from checking my watchlist that you have recently deleted two pages (HAGG​ER? (which may or may not appear correctly here) and OMG, he's a fag!!!). By my watching them, this means I have viewed the page. Here's the catch: I don't remember them at all! Could you, in all your administrator glory, show me a copy of what was on the page and a copy of the page history to see if my account has been used to edit these pages (which would probably mean it has been compromised). Thanks in advance -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 02:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for that! -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 21:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Zvi Segal

Please add at least one reference to the article so that we can avoid an 'unref' template. --Shuki (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Done. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. --Shuki (talk) 23:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

'Redlasso' deleted for CSD A7

What do I need to do to indicate the importance of this post about Redlasso? Redlasso.com is a new US-based broadcast TV and Radio clip site that is part of the group of new media companies. We've been written up in multiple articles over the past couple weeks as we've started to make public what our site is about. Sites similar to us are: Voxant, Mochila and ClipSyndicate with Mochila already having a Misplaced Pages web presence. What can we do to get our company listed correctly in Misplaced Pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.74.101.135 (talk) 23:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Why delete AC3D?

AC3D is referenced in a number of places but there is no entry for it. Why do you not delete Blender, Silo etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinkybb (talkcontribs) 16:10, November 21, 2007

EPIC-FU

I appreciate you seeing the deletion tag I placed on "EPIC-FU" and taking the proper action. Wwefan981 (talk) 23:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Second Generation Outsourcing

Second Generation Outsourcing is an innovative concept. The article is about the concept, it doesn't attempt to advertise on any product or company.The article attempts to explain the concept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowthamlive (talkcontribs) 05:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

RS

I supplied RS directly contradicting the one, while the other does not meet the criteria. Tewfik 14:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD

Hi! Considering your interesting in elections and/or the EU, you may be interested in the ongoing deletion debate on Danish European Union opt-outs referendum -- if so, could you please voice your opinion in the AfD debate? Thanks! —Nightstallion 15:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

My RfA - thanks

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 38/1/0! I hope I can live up to the standards of adminship, and I will try my best to make Misplaced Pages a better place. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 18:40, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Damn!

I hate it when I nominate a bunch of redirects for R1 and the target gets restored and I look like a fool and people have to clean up after me :-/ --Closedmouth (talk) 00:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

You deleted Junip, and Black Refuge EP

I don't remember the article being that bad. Well, the main reason the band are notable is because their guitarist and singer is José González who is extremely well known throughout the independent music scenes in Europe and America, and he's 'so famous he might as well be God' in Sweden. His album is 28th on the list of 'most read record reviews' at www.pitchforkmedia.com, a popular site which gets a simply insane number of hits. So yeah, the link to his name's pretty much all that was needed. If you want proof that they are actually a current band (a band that releases one EP then dies probably isn't notable);

http://www.wers.org/articles/?id=698

This interview was published about two years after the release of thier sole EP, suggesting that they are still working on an LP. Oh, and while I'm here, was a notice put up on the articles? Was there any debate? LiamUK (talk) 15:49, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

please explain the deletion

Hi,

You have deleted my article about Software Components OTA. I have already disucssed with another Wiki Administrator about this article and he agreed that it is worthy of adding to Wiki (see my talk page).

Can you explain what advertisement you mean ??

there is no company or product mentioned in the article. It is a mere definition of a terminology accompanied with a reference to an objective and reliable source.

Please advise. Thank you. Elod (talk) 16:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anas2048 (talkcontribs) 18:34, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Comparison of database tools

Would you consider reviewing the above article? It's much better than before - possibly salvageable - and I think that a DRV or another AfD would be a plan. The user's made a really good job at tidying it up, and it's full of half-decent information. I'll leave it to you to undelete if you think it's salvageable. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 19:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

DRV notice: Comparison of database tools

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Comparison of database tools. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.--Anas2048 (talk) 20:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

DRV notice: Junip

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Junip. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Jreferee t/c 19:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thikkurissy Sukumaran Nair

Hi, pls dont delete the article, I'm in the process of writing it-- Anoopkn (talk) 10:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Maltese Third Division clubs

I thought that since they were playing at a national level in a fourth tier national league, which is probably of a similar standard to Level 8 of the English league structure, that they would be notable. If I was mistaken, then I will amend my comment. – PeeJay 13:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

David Mader

Could you give me a bit of advice on what to do regarding this article I have removed refs as per WP:RSUE surely on English Misplaced Pages refs should be WP:V which I cant do as I dont speak Danish, what is procedure regarding non-English refs. The two other editors on this article are both Danish and I think it is a vanity piece. One editor has even denied being David Mader without even being suspected, thanks in advance for your help. BigDunc (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Response

While they may be Israeli citizens, they are Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel. This is not an WP:OR conclusion. See for example this. Further, the article is entitled List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada and not List of Palestinian citizens killed in the Second Intifada. Therefore, and especially since I provided a footnote explaining their special situation, they deserve inclusion in the list. Tiamut 12:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome to put them in the List of Israeli civilian casualties in the Second Intifada. That, however, does not preclude their being listed in the List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada. Both lists should have been one list, but as you have no doubt noticed, it is impossible to have one list when people like Tewfik (talk · contribs) and Armon (talk · contribs) keep deleting the Palestinian civilian casualties. As to whether Israelis must or must not be Jewish, that is quite debatable. As a Palestinian citizen of Israel myself, I would offer that my own experience has indicated that the state does not consider me to be an Israeli. That, however, is the subject of another deeper philosophical discussion. As it stands, I hope you will permit me to relist the casualties, with the footnotes I have drafted to respond to your concerns. Thanks. Tiamut 12:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


With regards to the list, I would argue the inverse: the majority of people might find it misleading to include Palestinian citizens of Israel killed by Israelis in a list of Israeli civilian casualties. Tiamut 12:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
After all, they were killed precisely because they were viewed to be Palestinians, and not Israelis. Tiamut 12:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Liga Bet and Gimel

Hey, I was looking through the history of the Israeli football teams articles and saw that you have made many contribs. I was wondering if you had any info on what season(s) Maccabi Bi'ina participated in Liga Bet? --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Sport5.png

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RFA Thanks

One of my favorite places Dear Number 57,

Thank you for supporting in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Misplaced Pages, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence and perceptiveness.

Cheers, Dlohcierekim 19:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Elections in 2008

I see that you've seen the new articles I created; do you think I missed any? ;)Nightstallion 19:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

edit warring

Why are you are edit warring on {{Serbian Superliga}}?

Crvena zvezda is used by:

Also Google hits:

Now what is your problem? // laughing man 23:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Head over there and please review my situation. — Save_Us_229 12:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Appears someone got to the issue. Thanks anyways. — Save_Us_229 12:45, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

==Re Rodrigo Díaz (footballer)==

Nah I don't get it? You must definitely be a football fan to remove that speedy. The clubs notable but the players not. This is going to be taken further. Don't worry you will get to have your say in the discussions. Sting_au Talk 12:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I read WP:BIO parts of it look to me like he shouldn't have an article about him. For example, "(who meet the general criteria of secondary sources published about them)" and Footbal-lineups.com is not a reliable secondary source. The clubs notable but he's not so remarkable. At least nothings been done to the article to SHOW that he is i.e. by properly referencing the guy. Inline citations would look good now wouldn't they. Or is it just because he's a footballer? To say my nom was one of the worst you've seen shows a bit of bias I reckon? I am taking that as an insult to my integrity. I'm definitely no expert here on Misplaced Pages, but to see so many articles on Footballers, and average ones at that too! Seems rather odd to me? Fair enough if an athlete plays for their country or in a world cup or even Olympic games or breaks a world record. Now that I can understand! I see there's still a few red links on that Independiente players list. So more not so remarkable footballer articles coming up soon I suppose? Sting_au Talk 12:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Now that (supplying references) actually makes sense. That's what the article needs. Without the references he doesn't survive WP:BIO and I did read it. But the article writer is the expert in that area. Not me. He can provide the references. I'll give him till tomorrow. If the references are not supplied it goes to WP:AfD. Sting_au Talk 13:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
If it's so easy why doesn't the article creator google up the reference and add it? I just read your reference to WP:POINT I thought I did make my point? I'm sorry but you seem to be taking this personally? Perhaps we should both step back and let an independent Admin take a look at this please? Sting_au Talk 13:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Cheers

Cheers for your support of the Rodrigo Díaz article, I can't believe that anyone would make such a concerted effort to bin it, there are dozens of footballers on wikipedia with no appearances at all and this guy has nearly 200 in top flight football in two of the best leagues outside Europe. As for the "dreaded threat" of more Independiente players, I doubt it, I made articles for all the squad players to feature in at least half of their games this season, the others would survive AfD under current notability criteria, but they aren't key players, so I'll not be creating articles for them until next season at least, and then only if they play a bigger part in the first team. I may eventually go back over the Independiente players adding extra sources, but I'm a bit busy creating pages for all of the regular first teamers in the other Argentine Primera squads and the dreaded transfer window is looming ominously. Kind regards as always. King of the NorthEast 16:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

runtshit

FYI, I've checkuser-blocked the IP that was the source of the most recent barrage of runtshit accounts. --jpgordon 16:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

new party

Hi! You should create an article on Hope (political party), founded by Aryeh Eldad, confer http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/29296/seven_seat_lead_for_likud_in_israel -- no? —Nightstallion 21:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Estonian league players

As a reply to your comment. I think attendance numbers have more to do with the popularity of sport in the country and hardly reflect the quality of the game. And although I agree that players from not fully professional leagues should not have an article on the english wikipedia (unless they've earned their notability by playing for their nt or through some other way), I don't think drawing parallels with the Sammarenese premier league, or whatever it's called over there, or the 9th level of the English football league is a good comparison. Look at Levadia for example, they knocked out Finnish Haka and Dutch Twente and went on to play two very good games against Newcastle in the first round of the UEFA Cup last year. This year they came very close to securing a tie with Glasgow Rangers for a place in the Champions League, but, unfortunately, were knocked out on away goals. I'd compare the top Estonian sides with Finnish clubs, although the average level of Veikkausliiga is, of course, higher since it's a fully-pro league and there's no gap between pro and amateur clubs there. So what I'm trying to say, is that having articles about some of the players from the Estonian League is not bad, as long as they are notable, however, that's not the case with the players I nominated. BanRay 10:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

What is an acceptable article about a business

We have gone through considerable lengths to create a Misplaced Pages entry that matches the quality and informative nature the many other businesses that are listed at Misplaced Pages. On the Website Builder page, there are three of our competitors, the article that was submitted was not much different then those that were accepted. Now after three attempts, it still gets deleted. There was no outbound link to iBuilt.net and the article was not written by me or a friend. The two most recent entries are not blatant advertising, they are a historical overview of iBuilt.net.

Please review http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=IBuilt.net_Website_Builder&action=edit

and perhaps offer some advice or help get the article undeleted. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thomas Husmann —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thusmann (talkcontribs) 18:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Afia

How can I get you not to delete the afia article for my new company? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jernel22 (talkcontribs) 22:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

WHY DID YOU DELETE "PHANTOM ARCADE"?

I had created this page to tell others what the popular website phantom arcade was. why, exactly did you delete this page? i added at the bottom: Stub, more to come at a later date. next time, when I rewrite it please do not delete it as i was half way through creating it.

Flags on Template:Australian elections

Hi :) Your views about this are sought on on the Template talkpage. --Brendan 13:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Award

Football (soccer) barnstar
You are hereby awarded this "Football Barnstar" for dedicating your time and effort during the month of November, 2007 on formulating Misplaced Pages's NC for sports teams. --Riurik 07:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Category comment

Hi. i saw your note on Category:Israeli-Palestinian conflict issues. just want to let you know, it was not my intention at all to create an unbalanced category. this all seems kind of ironic, as my whole point was to provide a category which would lay out the issues clearly, neutrally and helpfully. Guess I didn't succeed. is there any way that i could please ask you to reconsider? please feel free to write anytime. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 16:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

==Season's Greetings==

May this season bring you success, good times and happiness. Looking forward to working with you in the future.
Hαvεlok беседа мансарда 07:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Israeli political parties

Hi,

First of all I'd like to compliment you on your monumental work on the Israeli political parties articles, as you may have noticed It has assisted me in the creation some of the parallel articles on the Hebrew Misplaced Pages. I'd like to ask you about a particular sentence that I've failed to understand from the article Hebrew Communists, your help would be much appreciated. you wrote: "the party returned to life during the first Knesset when several of Maki's leaders were purged soon after the elections in 1949. Amongst the purged was Knesset member Eliezer Preminger." what kind of purge exactly were you referring to?

Also, do you have some kind of online source that lists the parties that failed to cross the electoral threshold (of the various elections), and a source that specify which party was a member of which coalition? that information is very difficult to come by. Apollo 11 (talk) 23:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Israel

Hi. Sure, I'd like to join, although I should add I'm not an expert wikipede yet... - Nudve (talk) 18:07, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Football (soccer) move

Hi,

I know you're involved in the discussion, and hence not exactly neutral, but are you still allowed to carry out the move if consensus is clear? What with it being the holidays and all, I don't see the current WP:RM backlog clearing any time soon. Getting this over and done with might allow the article's discussion page to move onto things other than this one, endless argument. Chris Cunningham (talk) 14:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm in the process of fixing double redirects, but it looks like you're doing it too. Do you want me to leave you to it or shall I do it? --kingboyk (talk) 17:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

South Side Mission deletion

I would like to have the deletion of South Side Mission reversed, please.

South Side Mission is the oldest rescue ministry on the city of Peoria, IL, and serves over 10,000 people at or below the poverty line in our community each year. We are also the frequent topic of research papers written by students of private and public institutions, from jr. high students to Bradley University, to SIU (Edwardsville).

I do appreciate that though it was founded the same year as Caterpillar, Inc., the world impact is somewhat less impressive. But, I must point out that the fabric of the community of Peoria would look very different with no one to care for the less fortunate.

Many of the most notable companies and people of Peoria support or received support from South Side Mission, including Maui Jim, Caterpillar, Inc., Shaun Livingston, and Mayor Murray Baker.

I posted this article for the benefit of those looking for the complete picture of the history of our community, instead of only the tourist information, and I believe it deserves consideration.

Meg Newell megn@southsidemission.org

3RR breach

please self revert or you will be reported for violation of WP:3RR.

cordially, Jaakobou 11:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

despite your assertion (dabbled with a threat) that you have not breached the policy, each of your edits purposely removed the information regarding the jewish-israeli casualty. i suggest you go over WP:3RR:I have violated 3RR. What do I do? and reconsider your actions. Jaakobou 11:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)