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Meatpuppet?

Bouncehoper: What the crap is a meatpuppet?

Baegis: A marionette that subsists on a diet solely of meat and its derivatives.

Bouncehoper: ...How is that different than a sockpuppet? (also, makes me hungry....)

Baegis: Sockpuppets, of course, eat cotton products, which are severely lacking in nutrition and deliciousness.

Bouncehoper: How....strange....lol. thanks!

from Baegis's talk page

Badagnani RFC

Perhaps you can participate in it here? It seems that you clearly have a history of "rivalry" with Badagnani. Eugene2x► 23:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Objective

I'd be happy to know in what way you feel I'm not being objective. -GTBacchus 00:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

For the record, I have no doubt of your good faith, nor have I suggested that you have failed to assume good faith in any other editor. I pretty much trust you on that count, implicitly. -GTBacchus 00:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

MuZemike 02:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Good night

Thank you for correcting my rating for bacon in popular culture. I may have been slightly over-enthusiastic. It's fortunate that I can rely on the good judgement of my fellow editors to keep things in check if I mess up. Take care and have fun! ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

This is how Badagnani behaves

• Note The guy named Badagnani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who has been following and harassing me for over a year (including racist attack), still chasing my edits today He has been making "bogus" about me, I gave him a warning but typically he deleted my criticism on his hypocrisy and wikistalking of me, so I paste the deleted for record.--Caspian blue 01:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

You are still following my edits, then you think you deserve to falsely accuse me of hounding you? Don't play a victim card. I want you to stop chasing my contribution to Korean cuisine. There are "many" native speakers of English who can fix my English per my request, so I don't need your special care as long as you demonize me and make bogus accusation. I've tried to assume good faith on you regardless of your various wrongdoing to me, but you are the one re-igniting the old animosity with your disruptive behaviors. When you attacked me with the racist attack on the admin's page and accused me of being stalking you for my good faith advice on OTRS images, you clarified your position against me. To be clear, the alleged stalking of mine was done right after you stalked to my newly created articles? So your hounding of me is okay to continue? To sum up, do not follow my edits any more. I'm done with you.--Caspian blue 00:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi. I noticed your recent post at Badagnani's page, which he removed. You may have noticed that I'm working with Badagnani. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with a post like that... do you really think that telling someone to leave you alone on the internet will make them leave you alone? As part of this dispute resolution, do you think you could moderate your tone, or if that's not possible then please ask me when you're having a problem before you go to Badagnani's page with another angry post that doesn't accomplish anything, except perhaps that you feel satisfied making it.

Unfortunately, your satisfaction is not prioritized ahead of encyclopedia writing, and combativeness — regardless of who started it — never helps with encyclopedia writing. Combativeness is a really bad idea, and it hurts the project. If you respond to combativeness with more combativeness, then you've just doubled the problem. Rather than doing that learn to de-escalate. If you cannot or will not do that, then I strongly urge you to get my attention when you're experiencing trouble with Badagnani, and then let me handle the situation. Your reactions to him are part of the problem right now. Think hard about that. Thanks for understanding. -GTBacchus 01:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what Viriditas is up to, but I've left him a note. Your comments about my efforts at "education" show how little you understand of what I'm doing. Stay tuned though. The last two times you told me how wrong I was, you turned around and apologized later. I don't expect any more of that; I'm just sayin'. -GTBacchus 01:55, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Images and usefulness

In terms of this, I think the image can be removed altogether... there's not much value in a picture of a kid holding his head. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 03:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh balls, there's drama behind this? I thought that was a silly image added in by some good-faith newcomer, had no idea there's an edit war behind this. I guess I'll join in the discussion (I was using an IP because life is too hectic to log in :P). Thanks for the speedy reply! Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

RfAs

Re: RfA BlueCaper Opposition

Hi, it's BlueCaper. I do not see why your opposition includes the "problems" of Harry J. Lincoln. Just because I created it does not mean the sole responsibility of the article should be on me. The page does not belong to me; it belongs to Misplaced Pages. It is everyone's job (not just mine) to make an article efficient.

But I am not here to rant and rave. Let me show you some gratitude for helping me and thousands of others make Misplaced Pages a better place.

Thank you.

-BlueCaper (talk) 13:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Much ado

Hi I see you also had some trouble regarding User:Ironholds. I lost my temper with him earlier as I'm sick and tired of people criticising the articles I create. I really hate the overlook of some people on here it has to be said, I'm sure you feel exactly the same way in such discussions when you are branded all sorts of clearly untrue things. Sometimes we think "Why do we bother?" huh? And for the record your English is excellent, igore the tripe. Dr. Blofeld 17:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, how you doing? Actually I don't have any problem with Ironholds as long as he is not an admin. I noted that he is quiet uncivil to editors though. The fiasco was a conflict between my interpretation of his experimental RfA and (not objection) oppression by others to think me the way they think. I could not do that. I counted the experimental RfA as one of his failed trials because it taunted the RfA system and he should've done it on Editor's review, not on RFA page. But well, sometimes, when I oppose somebody, saying "per whose comment" is much easier to be here. Anyway, thank you for the kind words.--Caspian blue 19:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

RFA thanks

My RFA passed today at 61/5/4. Thanks for participating in my RFA. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the WP community has placed in me. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 21:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

My Nom-Statements...

Hey there Caspian,

I know you and I have some philosophical differences on what makes a good nom... my philosophy is basically contained in this essay: How to nominate somebody for RfA. As your opinion at RfA has (surprisingly based upon our first interactions) become one that I am growning to respect... basically, my belief it that you highlight the weakness(es) of your candidate for three reasons:

1. It shows that you did vet the candidate and despite finding a flaw (and there almost always is a flaw) you didn't deem the flaw substantial enough to overcome the good.
2. It takes away from the potential damage if somebody is familiar with the flaw were to otherwise uncover it down the road. By raising it yourself, you undermine potential criticisms down the road.
3. By revealing what *I* know to be the biggest flaw in the candidate, you might get others to accept the flaw as the worst case and not look deeper.

I have the same belief about politicians. A politician who admits his/her failings will, IMO, do better than the same politician if some reporter breaks the story. I also reveal the flaws because I once glossed over them... and I vowed never to nom somebody without being upfront with any weaknesses that I knew about. I did that once, and never again. If their track record is such that I can't look past their biggest flaw, then I won't nom them. If there is a reason that I think a flaw can be over looked (a single incident of bad judgment from half a year ago is such) I will do so and explain why I don't think it is an issue with the candidate in particular.---I'm Spartacus! 03:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the sincere answer. I'm gonna reply later --Caspian blue 22:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Forgot a fourth reason, suppose I nominate a candidate who clearly is unworthy, but I don't address the issue, it indicates that I was unaware of the problem. While I try to do my best to vet candidates, I cannot possibly know everything that has happened with said account. There have been a few cases where I was surprised one of my candidates said/did.---I'm Spartacus! 13:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Just one thing to say before answering, I was under the impression that the candidate looks very like you. No offense intended, but both you and his statement address negative aspects first (it's like a very bitter chocolate)--Caspian blue 13:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

It's the Machiavellian in me... hit them hard with the negative then show why it isn't important and then show the positive ;-)---I'm Spartacus! 16:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Spinnspark reminded me of the fifth reason why I'm open about character flaws... people at RfA like to latch around an item that is negative about a candidate. When there is a surprise, people instantly start wondering, "What other surprises are we missing." By recognizing the flaws, people aren't wondering what they are missing. They get to say, "Hey I supported a person with these flaws before."---I'm Spartacus! 21:04, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

But do you think that all voters READ given questions/answers or CHECK candidate's contribution history? I don't think so. Unless voters have previous interactions with candidates or have observed, in many cases, candidates could be new to them. Sometime, I'm too lazy to investigate or dig diffs, just decide by the nominators' statement/ and candidates' answers. The brief edit summary on RfA talk just gives a basic frame of their contributions which exclude quality of content building and candidates' attitude. And most candidates are regarded good enough to run for adminship (or at least one editors think so in case of self-nom), so I think the support part's flowery praises do actually not indicate how good candidates are to get the bit. And they often say "per nom". That' why the "first impression" provided by the nominator is I think very important.--Caspian blue 21:13, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Image issues

Re:copy violated images

I apologise, I didn't see your notice until today. I'm looking into the issue now. J Milburn (talk) 16:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

They've all been tagged for deletion in various ways. Allows the uploader time to clarify, but means they will get deleted if no clarification is forthcoming. J Milburn (talk) 17:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

If only every image uploaded to Misplaced Pages as "own work" was genuinely the work of the uploader... Fingers crossed though, as ever. It does cheer me up when I see an image on my watchlist resurrected by an OTRS volunteer. J Milburn (talk) 17:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Carina Axelsson

Please explain why you have removed the image that I added to Carina Axelsson, as the image as used meets the Fair use criteria. Unionsoap (talk) 01:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello Caspian Blue

I have read a number of articles about Korea and found that you've made quite a few contributions, and I am assuming that you are both Korean and possibly live in Korea.

I have made some discoveries about Korean cars that are only available in Korea, such as the Hyundai Equus, the Dynasty, the Grandeur, and the Centennial. I was wondering if you have a digital camera and might have an opportunity to take a few photos? Now that Hyundai has become a major player in the automotive world, I thought it would be nice to see older Hyundai's and other Korean cars that the rest of the world isn't aware of.

If you can't help with this request, do you know of anyone who might be able to help?

Thank you for your time, (Regushee (talk) 16:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC))

I glanced through the mentioned articles of Hyundai cars, but they have images. If you want better images, well, you can ask help to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Korea.--Caspian blue 19:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Galbitang

On March 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Galbitang, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'm feeling hungry now after reading it! I miss Korean food... - Mailer Diablo 18:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks tasty. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:22, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank guys. The soup is yummy. --Caspian blue 23:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Tabby cat

Hi Caspian blue, I saw what you posted on WP:WPCATS. I suggest that you bring this to Misplaced Pages:RM#Requesting_potentially_controversial_moves.--Lenticel 07:27, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I did, but the user moved three! articles on similar subjects too.--Caspian blue 15:29, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Korean Cuisine references

Hi Caspian,

I have been working on correcting the references in the Korean cuisine article and would like your help in completing them. I have separated the sources that are in Korean and would like you help in translating such things as article titles, authors and other information. This would be a great help as all I have is Google language tools, which is a non-contextual translator that leaves a lot to be desired.

Thanks, Jeremy (blah blah) 18:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice.--Caspian blue 19:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops

Sorry, I posted a question for you at Anonymous Dissident's RfB, but I forgot to let you know, which is not very polite. Sorry for that. Anyway, you'll find the question below your !vote. Hope you don't mind the question. If you do mind it, drop a response here or on my talk page - let's not clog up AD's RfB page. --Dweller (talk) 15:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Caspian blue. Thank you for your principled action. In my mind you stand for the best that Misplaced Pages has to offer. Tasos (Dr.K. logos 00:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC))

User:Tenmei and Teeninvestor's ArbCom

ArbCom

I believed you once had a dispute with Tenmei, resulting in you filing this dispute: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive471#User:Tenmei.27s_abusing_AfD_and_personal_attacks, Would you care to give more details at ArbCom?Teeninvestor (talk) 21:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Just to tell you, I'm not on the side of the troll; in fact, I condemn him. By the way, I remember that sources do not have to display notability; they only need to display verifiablity.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

No, ArbCom won't save time, considering there was no problem to begin with; just Tenmei's obstinacy. ArbCom cases are lengthy and I'm not very happy being involved in all of that.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Note that the problem with the article is solved, and there wasn't any edit warring for a while????? And what do you mean that "this is not limited to this case?"Teeninvestor (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

How would emailing you help???? Also, note how links have been provided to the source, as well as standard bibliographical information, which would make it verifiable, eh? That isn't exactly "controversial", or else the editors of said articles would have said so.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is a very similar RfAr case regarding "sourcing" and many other cases regarding nationalistic disputes (to be correct, didn't you edit war not only with him, but also Mongolian editors over the descriptions on the sovereignty during the ancient time?) I will tell you more if you take my advice.--Caspian blue 22:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

The "edit war" with "Mongolian editors" was very strange. I was adding sections to the article, and they deleted it without explanation. Then they left. It was one of the strangest disputes I went through. i wouldn't say it was a nationalist dispute; they didn't even say why/what they were deleting it? Then Tenmei came in with his "rhetorical skills", and you know what that leads to. Oh ya, what's your email? I'm not too good with the emailUser feature. Teeninvestor (talk) 23:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't expose it on the public place. You need to go to Special:Preferences first and then fill in your address into Email section. Then scroll down page, you check the box, "Enable e-mail from other users" and save the change. Then, you will receive a message "you have to verify the address to use the function". Then open the message on your email account. Then your email sending/receiving are set up. After you finish the procedure, you either can tell me you're ready or look at the left side of the bar on my talk. There has "What links here and E-mail this user" and others. Then you can send me mail as well as others. --Caspian blue 23:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

As for the deletion without rationale, I clearly saw their message. Didn't they say "We, great ancestors were never ruled by Han Chinese!" Didn't you really catch that? Well, the article was actually created by the banned user to convey this message too "Even though Mongolian can say that they ruled Han Chinese for some period time, Mongolians were also ruled by our Han Chinese." Those are clear nationalistic feuds--Caspian blue 23:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice, Caspian Blue! I was not aware of this feud. I just saw this article as an ARS member and wanted to improve it.Teeninvestor (talk) 21:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I've decided not to use the emailUser feature. I was spammed.Teeninvestor (talk) 14:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Did you set up the function? When???? Who gave you spam mails? Well, reconsider my suggestion though....--Caspian blue 14:47, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Mailer Diablo 14:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Block by Georgewilliamherbert and its background

• Slightly related to the ArbCom case in which I did not be involved but did comment.

1. (Background) Ever since I reported Tenmei (talk · contribs) to ANI for his personal attacks, he has been hounding me whenever I have a dispute with others even though those are totally irrelevant of him. After another horrible experience with him on Yonsei for his more attacks, he even wikistalked me to Tznkai talk page to harass me when it comes to matter between me and Roux (talk · contribs). When Inner Asia during the Tang Dynasty article was created by ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ (talk · contribs) who is a block evading banned user and also has been harassing me, I noticed the fact. On the other hand, Tenmei caused the similar degree of disruption to others. After Tenmei (talk · contribs) filed a RfAr case against Teeninvestor (talk · contribs), the case did seem to be rejected just like Tenmei's last year RfAr case against Admin Nick-D. I left a statement to WP:Requests for arbitration page and the case was accepted.
2. Tenmei began to spread his curiosity over my intention of writing "favorable statement for him" to arbitrator Jayvdb (talk · contribs) and clerk Tznkai (talk · contribs)
3. 2009-03-30T20:57:57 Tenmei even left a message about me to non-clerk and non-admin Roux (talk · contribs) who has very bad histories with me for each other.
4. 2009-03-31T03:30:59 Roux left a very nasty comment
5. 2009-03-31T10:28:56 I gave Roux a NPA warning
6. 2009-03-31T13:11:16 Juliancolton and The ed17, supporters for Roux from his RFA appeared.
7. Conversation with them
8. 2009-03-31T14:23:09 Tenmei reappeared on the place
9. 2009-03-31T14:36:35 Roux's rely consisting of mostly "fuck" and "bullshit" and false accusation with liesmore insults
10. 2009-03-31T15:06:21 I filed to WP:ANI#User:Roux 's verbal attacks and threat but it was soon archived within about 2 hours.
11. 2009-04-01T01:04:46 Georgewilliamherbert's visit on my talk page 7 and half hours after the archive.
12. 2009-04-01T01:07:02 deleted by me (because I read it)
13. 2009-04-01T01:09:40 Georgewilliamherbert's visit on Roux's talk page
14. 2009-04-01T01:12:21 I requested for clarification to Georgewilliamherbert talk page
15. 2009-04-01T01:13:28 blocked by Georgewilliamherbert before getting an answer.
16. 2009-04-01T01:38:08 my request for unblock
17. 2009-04-01T01:45:22 Georgewilliamherbert's further comment for any reviewing admins
18. 2009-04-01T01:53:03 My reply to Georgewilliamherbert
19. 2009-04-01T02:30:55 Roux blocked by Prodego
20. 2009-04-01T02:37:06 Admin Seicer left the related ANI link to inform the news that Roux was blocked too.
21. 2009-04-01T03:29:58 With a discussion with a reviewing admin from IRC left a formal decline note.
22. 2009-04-01T07:40:23 Georgewilliamherbert left a note after his 20 minute research.
23. From 2009-04-01T07:52:51 to 2009-04-01T20:18:34 On Georgewilliamherbert's talk page, Baseball Bugs talking.
24. 2009-04-01T19:37:07 Tenmei again appeared to bash about me. Baseball Bugs and Ncmvocalist also commented more.
25. 2009-04-08T04:42:05 I visited to Georgewilliamherbert's talk page to tell Tenmei to stop wikistalking and harassing me any more. Brief notes to others there.
26. 2009-04-08T05:03:49 My answer to the accusation left on my talk page.

--Caspian blue 06:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Tenmei

User:Tenmei has filed an ArbCom case against me and I have done a little research on Tenmei and noted you have interacted with this user. Can you help provide an opinion about him? Thanks.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Evidence

Your evidence at RfAr would be much appreciated

Since you've expressed an interest, it would most advisable for you to participate in the discussion. I feel your participation will go a long way to resolving the class. Teeninvestor (talk) 22:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

After second thought, I reopened my email. A second view of the spam emails I received saw that they were a scam, pretending to be from the "wikimedia foundation". That cleared up things a lot, as I previously thought they were from wikipedia, so I disabled my EmailUser.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for opening your email. Oh, I think you misunderstood the automatically attached message on the bottom of any email. That is just to inform you that the email comes via Misplaced Pages. --Caspian blue 22:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh really. Thank you.Teeninvestor (talk) 12:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

About your information at ArbCom case

Hi, I noticed that you posted some information about a problem editor at ].

Given the long-term problems that have been going on with the user in question, I believe that it is time that a WP:Long term abuse thread be started on this user, regardless of what his or her primary account might be (more than 100 socks have been recorded as of writing).

As you seem to know a lot about what this editor has been up to, I think you might be in a position to alert the Misplaced Pages community at large in relation to the said user.

I had originally intended to post evidence in the said ArbCom case that would demonstrate that many of the problems at the Inner Asia during the Tang Dynasty article have been repeated elsewhere due to the persistent addition of highly inappropriate material to a large number of pages that are not as frequently patrolled as "popular" articles are by the vandal and a failure to recognize long-term abuse. However, given the complex nature of the abuses and the danger of "feeding the troll", I have refrained from doing so.

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the "toxic" IPs (as another user described them) in question appeared to have posted veiled racist comments at a number of user talk pages. A notable example can be found here: . In this case, I believe he was trying to denigrate a large number of other editors by engaging in pointless debate.

I am a little puzzled though as to why he or she made rude comments at User talk:Arilang1234, considering that the comments seem to go against the very ideas that the troll had been trying to push.

I had reported this user earlier to User:Ryulong on account of the fact that edits by IP accounts involving Nazi themes had been made this year, suggesting that the little known but highly disruptive User:RestoreTheEmpireSociety is still active; unfortunately no action was taken.

As suggested in various checkuser requests, this editor also appears to impersonate some other persona frequently in order to make fun of editors from certain ethnic backgrounds (particularly Arabs); I also suspect he or she edited Talk:Tang Dynasty under a username in order to mock Korean editors. I think you should check the user account out to see if the person behind it actually a serious editor or just an impersonator.

There is one thing that I am almost certain about: the editor involved is not the aptly named User:Nationalist (who also caused chaos across a large number of articles).

By the way, I wonder why the ArbCom case is titled "Tang Dynasty" even though it is really about "Inner Asia during..."? Alpha77a (talk) 12:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Alpha77a, thank you for the alert and visit. You seem to be able to track down his history, so I don't think my submission would do better. You can consult the matter with checkuser, Nishkid64 who has routinely range-blocked underlying IPs used by the banned user. I've been harassed by the user ever since my ANI reports/RFCU on him, so I don't want to be increasing the chance for him to revenge me. And I have other things to be dealt with in my limited time for editing, but thank you for the visit any way.--Caspian blue 13:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...

I think I might have to take up your offer in the near future. I do love East Asian ceramic wares, especially celadon. Plus, you are right, there is a lack of good quality Korean articles. I'll see what I can do, but I won't feel comfortable creating a new article unless I have gathered at least four good scholarly sources that I can cite. Cheers.--Pericles of Athens 13:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Reply

Blocks, although often needed, have an unfortunate and horrible effect on anyone who is on the receiving end; the experience is not at all pleasant, and administrators and even arbitrators fail to truly comprehend the precise effect. I would not wish to compound the effect on anyone. I think we will still have disagreements even in the future, but hopefully, they can be resolved more amicably - if we can achieve that much, then that's certainly worth it. Thank you for the note, and apology accepted. :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstars

Re:The 25 DYK Medal

Thankyou! J Milburn (talk) 21:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Congrats to his J Milburn and to Casp for recognizing his good works! Enjoy your weekends. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to you, DYK contributors! --Caspian blue 04:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

My jacket is getting heavy with all these medals! Keep em coming. :) Sorry if I was intruding on a conversation with my rice drink comment Casp. For whatever reason I had that user's page on my watchlist and I was moved to comment because I agreed with what he said. I have absolutely no idea what the context was, but I wanted to weigh in with my two cents. :) Are you trying to have someone blocked? I hope it isn't me!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Why thank you, Caspian Blue for the medal, and for a glimpse of your cat picture, above. Its a great choice and pic. Victuallers (talk) 19:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the barnstar! :D PC78 (talk) 12:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

Many thanks! JPBarrass (talk) 15:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

- Cheers. Having gone around the fortress making notes and trying to get the page right, I now feel like I built it!JPBarrass (talk) 15:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for advise at 3RR noticeboard. Unfortunately, I can not follow your advice because of insufficient time. It was only once that I started a case, and only because I was asked by User:Durova. Not any more. Thanks.Biophys (talk) 20:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Revert

Re this: sorry if what I was reverting was actually accurate. I'm not familiar with this period in history, I just noticed what appeared to be a major change that could have been motivated by nationalist POV-pushing and figured it should be reverted unless there was discussion. If you think the new wording is better, though, that's ok with me, since you know a lot more about it than I do. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 15:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I initially thought the UK anon could be Wondergirls' incarnation given the same old inserting of "cheerleading passages". However the anon's edit to Joseon Dynasty was at least fixing the problem caused by another anon's POV edit. So you inadvertently reverted to problematic edit. That can happen.--Caspian blue 15:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Caspainblue, the intro is modelled after the Japan article, which is a featured article. I think it is important to mention the Seoul capital area so I think it's fine. If you have any other issues with my edit, please talk to me. Thanks. 86.138.60.93 (talk) 15:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

86.138.60.93, it is not necessary to mention Seoul in the first paragraph of the article, especially just mentioning something random like its size. Anyway, like I said, please continue this discussion at Talk:South Korea, and post the reason why you think your additions should be included, so that we have one centralized location to discuss this. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 15:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Would you guys continue discussing the matter to Talk:South Korea? Thanks.--Caspian blue 15:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Goryeo celadon

Hello. Sorry, but I haven't been able to concentrate on this topic lately (as you requested). I'm still busy with the Han Dynasty FAC and my real life work is piling up on my desk. This may take a while.--Pericles of Athens 17:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, please don't feel a burn about my request. Take you time as much as you need. You're so kind of letting me know of your plan. :) --Caspian blue 18:41, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Caspian Blue! I'm glad it was all worth the work.--Pericles of Athens 22:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Notification

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Macedonia naming dispute and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks,--Yannismarou (talk) 22:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

your edits were spot on

_shoot! 12:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :) --Caspian blue 18:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar

Thanks very much for the barnstar! I sincerely appreciate the sentiment.  :-) —David Levy 20:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK comment

Thanks for your comment on my nomination - I've responded here . Cheers, Paxse (talk) 05:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, —— nixeagle 03:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Kang Dae-ha

Hi, Caspian-- 오래간 만이에요. (I realize I was a bit of a horse's ass in our last encounter, but I hope you can understand my feelings on the situation too...) Thanks for translating the KMDb biography of Kang Dae-ha. I was working through it myself, but wasn't confident enough to post my translation yet. The only difference I had with your translation was with "찬가 / 讚歌". I thought that this was a type of poem-- like a hyangga... Anyway, thanks again for helping out with the article. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 13:33, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.--Caspian blue 14:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

It was early this morning when I wrote the above-- Now that my eyes are fully open, I realize the translation is "Paean" not "Peon" (which I thought an odd title for a poem). So our translations matched :) Take care. Dekkappai (talk) 17:55, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Dreadful supporters

I thought you were talking about me. I guess I'm vain like that. V?... I do think those editors need to leave the other editor alone. It's one thing to have a difference of opinion, but to follow an editor around and to keep going after them is pretty bad form. There are enough articles that need work without that kind of drama. Anyway, I hope you're having fun. I took a picture of a jellyfish dish this past weekend. Probably it isn't needed, but it's the thought that counts! ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

reply from TI

Trust me. None of us know what he is saying(neither do the Admins). But your testimony will still be valuable. just provide it as i'm sure the Admins will know what you are saying, and it may help clear up the case.Teeninvestor (talk) 00:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

R you still thinking about making your evidence on the page??? time is running out.Teeninvestor (talk) 20:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

The rest of the editors are being contacted by me to make statements. Just make yours. And no, Tenmei didn't bother me as much as he did to you.Teeninvestor (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

If he does harass you that will just be good diffs to bring up on ArbCom.Teeninvestor (talk) 20:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Misunderstanding

Hi. From your last post at ANI, I'm not sure we understand each other. Do you know what I advocate, as s solution to these issues? -GTBacchus 18:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Eye candy

Borrowed from somewhere.

Belated thank you

Thank you for the barnstar. I sincerely hope that I can continue to act in such a way that people don't question granting me such recognition. And my apologies for the delay in response. A relative recently died and there has been some unexpected paperwork to deal with which was proving to be more than a bit distracting. Luckily, they tell me that the documentation problems are resolved now, so I hope to be a bit less distracted. John Carter (talk) 16:14, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind and detailed reply. You deserved to receive it and I think I'm not the only one thinking of you as such. And best wishes for you and your family.--Caspian blue 16:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

WT:RFA

Sorry? –Juliancolton |  19:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

No, I'm afraid I still don't understand. Could you please elaborate? Regards, –Juliancolton |  19:04, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't intend for you to be amused. –Juliancolton |  19:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright then, sorry for the inconvenience. –Juliancolton |  19:12, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

My future

Caspian, when I was briefly in Seoul there were birds used to pick fortunes, a lot of veggie soups in stoneware or earthenware bowls, and some kind of sea slug that didn't look tasty to me. Do these things have a particular name or names? Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:25, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Your future is a mémoire of your past or Wiki's future that would have a new article? :-) Well, it is hard to tell. The bird used to pick fortunes seems like Korean magpie, but a soup made with the bird sounds eek. Well you can try to search through Commons:Category:Soups and stews of Korea.--Caspian blue 20:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, three different questions on three different things:

• Name of fortune telling method using a bird to select the fortune?
• Name for that type of cooking served in pottery bowls?
• Sea slug, or was it sea cucumber?, name and name of dish or dishes that use it?

Thank you very much for telling my fortune though. There is an amusing discussion on the RfA discussion page about how there are no noms right now. I'd like to throw mine up now, but it's going to take some time to answer the questions and I've been doing other stuff and still need to internationalized steamed clams since you won't do it for me.  :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:03, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, that's good because I can not imagine the bird that people consider an auspicious messenger from the heaven could be a mere ingredient. That thinking is awful. Well, as for the question 1, I'm not sure. You need to give me more description or situation question 2, oh, you mean ttukbaegi (뚝배기) Commons:Category:Ttukbaegi? 3. Haesam? Gaebul? Hoe (dish)? Well, could you say about where you saw these things? Do you start dating a Korean girl? (curious).--Caspian blue 23:16, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Are you going to add taehap chim/daehapp jjim to the steamed clams article? Here are a couple sources , . Those commons photos look nice. There were so many of that type of dish. I found it very interesting. I think Seoul is the soup capital of the world. Korean food is very interesting to me. So many pickled dishes too. As far as the sea cucumbers I just remember seeing them at street stands and I was in awe that people would eat them. Then I wandered near the president's house, I think, and got escorted away by secret police. :) The bird is used to pick out from a bunch of slips of paper or tiles or something with fortunes on them. It was interesting except I couldnt' read my fortune. I think I saved it somewhere... ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey Casp. Thank you for your support. Please don't get caught up in any of the nastiness. There are many more opposes to come. I'm a big boy and I can handle it. The examples are interesting to me because as with the sources for Michael Jackson being a "businessman" and the Tina Turner opening paragraph, I still think the other editors are mistaken. But we learn from our mistakes and I could have been more tactful in dealing with the WP:OWN and other issues. ;) Anyway, please don't worry or feel that you have to defend me. My bad jokes are getting me in a lot of trouble, but my sense of humor is a strong defense. I've made mistakes, so many of the concerns are legitimate. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually I did not defend you, but feel disgusted by obvious hypocrisies. So don't worry about the baiting. --Caspian blue 06:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I am researching on Wiki. Cound you help me?

Dear Caspian blue,

I am a student in Seoul National University in Korea doing a research project on Misplaced Pages. I am very impressed about your insight. Reading your page, I see you are truly concerned about a variety of issues, and I appreciate your contributions. So I thought you could provide some opinions really worthwhile. So, would it be possible for you to take some time off and give an online interview via E-mail or online messenger? It would provide my project a lively voice of an actual editor, and this will be of a great meaning; your experience, concerns, opinions and ideas would add a lot to my project. Actually I'm in real need of something concrete; for my project is about the mechanism a biased version of explanation is settled, and as you will probably guess, understanding such things involves a lot more than just watching explicit process. Again, I would really, really appreciate your help.

It will not take that long; in fact everything will depend completely upon your will. If you are willing to give some help, would you mind mailing me within April? Thanks a lot.

Sincerely, Bongeun bongeun319@hanmail.net

121.170.42.47 (talk) 01:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Re Can IP editors present evidences?

As long as someone is not logging out and adding evidence as an IP instead of using their account it is fine. Please do revert. Thanks. KnightLago (talk) 01:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Tenmei

I didn't realise that I was on this guy's list of people who 'did not try to help'. Yikes. Nick-D (talk) 01:57, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Taeyeon (Girls' Generation)

Since I made this article, can you just delete it and can I make it all over again? I'm sorry for deleting the thingy on the top, I didn't realize I could delete it. TaeyeonSaranghae (talk) 12:44, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

No problem (and thank you for participating at AfD). Good luck with your DYK! :) Cheers, –Juliancolton |  16:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind support

Hey Casp. Thanks very much for your friendship and generous support of my candidacy. It meant a lot to me as I have great respect for your judgement and integrity. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) --Caspian blue 20:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Take care

Tenmei has contacted GeorgewilliamHebert to make a statement or take some kind of action against you. Although he has now removed the post, just be careful- he might contact someone else or do something else to make you feel uncomfortable.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for caring. Yeah, ironically, the strong provocation made me finally get out of my long hesitance and decided to give my evidence. If he would not be poking on me, and not go to George, I might've remained silent except commenting a few to the Workshop. However, I don't know why I have to be afraid of his forthcoming harassment (sigh).--Caspian blue 23:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

From my experience with this editor it's well worth keeping an eye on his recent contributions (and keeping records of any relevant diffs). As well as canvassing distruptive editors against me at the same time that he was claiming willingness to enter into good-faith mediation, I found that he was also going through my old posts on talk pages and cherry-picking sections which he thought would be useful and saving them in his user space. He also sometimes revises his old posts if they attract criticism or get proven wrong (by removing/changing text rather than striking it out) and has fiddled with other editors' posts. Nick-D (talk) 23:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the concern. Ah.....yeas, when he hugely reduced his evidences (of course including attacks against me), he tries to focus to demonstrate how constructive he has been...The statement is the shortest one of his wording that I've seen so far.-_- However, well his attacks yesterday just reveal his color. Can you add your above statement to your evidence section? Thanks.--Caspian blue 23:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid that I don't have any diffs for that handy and as it isn't an issue in the RfA I don't think that it would be worthwhile digging them up. Nick-D (talk) 08:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Yo, guys, Tenmei just admitted he's wrong, as shown by this diffdiff

. Teeninvestor (talk) 19:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

According to one of his own catch praises, "what a noble gambit".--Caspian blue 20:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, it seems it was a "noble gambit" from Tenmei's part. I seriously think ArBCom should place sanctions against this guy; at least a topic ban on asia should be in order. By the way, when are the arbitrators going to look at this? I can just imagine when the look on their faces when they first see our diffs on Tenmei, and then his TLDR comments.Teeninvestor (talk) 00:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of which, when are you going to finish your comment?Teeninvestor (talk) 00:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I've seen him pledge so many times to improve his communicate skills and incivility issues. He has asked a favor to admins or editors in good standing or "his friends" in both bad and good standing for mentorship or seeking for opinions on his attitude whenever his edit or comments are heavily criticized by editors. So I don't buy his "another sudden" vague penitence. If he thinks he really feels sorry, he should've apologized to the offended people. He has never did except one pretentious gambit; he offended me more with the insulting passage like "Tenmei apologizes Caspina blue for the comment; you're offensive." Then everybody at the ANI who already were tired of Tenmei's unintelligible and lengthy rambling just said "why don't we just wrap up?" So ANI report on him just makes the reporter's reputation ruined. He has gotten out of repeated incivility and personal attack accusations in the name of excuse for his "lack of communication skills" and "let's believe his good faith", or long-winged text attacks, blah, blah...

Once his habit of harassment and wikistalking are repeated regardless of many warnings, which are beyond AGF, and are his fixed character. I've been fooled by AGF on him. You see what I have gotten through. You need to carefully read Nick-D's observation written above. My first encounter with him is just a "prelude to endless nightmare", and I really don't want to recall another AfD experience and consequence discussions (mainly filled with his trollings) with him. That is beyond disaster. He has met very generous admins so far. As for the supposed time for me to finish my statement, well, writing something against someone is not my type of things and makes me very exhausted and gloomy. But I have to do...

ArbCom cases usually take within one month or one and a half month. So be patient for a little while. There are "many mega hit ArbCom cases", so it might be delayed or finished early. --Caspian blue 00:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I hope ArbCom gets this case done fast, and the solutions in quickly. Teeninvestor (talk) 20:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, "the two involved editors from your side" have not presented their evidence. If you want to end it faster, they have to reappear soon. None of arbtrators do even comment to the case once. So I guess, you have to wait about 2 weeks.--Caspian blue 20:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Because this is the English Misplaced Pages, editors should use English-language sources in preference to sources in other languages, assuming the availability of an English-language source of equal quality, so that readers can easily verify that the source has been used correctly. Where editors translate a direct quote, they should quote the relevant portion of the original text in a footnote or in the article. Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations made by Misplaced Pages editors.

(bolding mine).

I think this bit of info just proved Tenmei shot himself in the foot. Also, it seems they do not want to be involved in the case(though an uninvolved editor has expressed interest). It seems Tenmei included them for no reason.Teeninvestor (talk) 20:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, they're actually not involved editors. But in his sense, I have to be an involved editor so that he can "punish me". They heavily criticized Tenmei, so he seems to think that he can "fix" their "wrong" notion by including them as a party. I guess, I have to trim down my statement and more diffs. At that time of writing the "harassment section", I was so pissed off at Tenmei's another attempt to harass me.--Caspian blue 20:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Response

Hi Caspian blue. I noticed that you started an ANI sub-section about me. That's fine, but I can assure that my comment about editing by Russavia was made in a good faith. If you have any concerns or questions, I would be happy to answer. Thank you for your comments.Biophys (talk) 23:35, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Kang Dae-ha

I've made a start, but have a few questions. The "Biography" section suggests that his first screenplay was Somebody's' House (Tain-ui jip) in 1970, but the "Filmography" says Snowstorm (Nunbora) in 1968. Also, Somebody's' House and A Girl's First Love aren't listed in the filmography. PC78 (talk) 00:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! PC78 (talk) 09:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Merong

--Caspian blue 03:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Please clarify

From WP:ANI: "I warned him at Talk:Nokdumuk last Sunday not to edit with editors". Please clarify whether this is meant to say "... to edit war with editors" as I do not want to presume anything about your meaning. Regards, SHEFFIELDSTEEL 17:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I meant "Edit war". I missed to type it. Thank you for the message.--Caspian blue 17:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Internet video that will change your Chinese perspectives

Thank you for the message, Arilang1234, but I save it as a diff. --Caspian blue 04:52, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Scanning the book

R u sure about this? And how would you do it anyway?(Scan the menu???).Teeninvestor (talk) 19:11, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I think you should reduce your evidence size a bit(it is just over 1000 words). I've reduced my evidence size so that not counting quotes from wikipedia policy pages(of which I have two) I am below 1000 words(999). I had to trim my evidence by close to 700 words to get it in size. See this diff diffTeeninvestor (talk) 01:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I still have a lot to add, and the length so far is jut 1089 including subtitles, while Tenmei's over 1300. Once my statement is finished, I will tighten the statement.--Caspian blue 01:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Kang Dae-ha

On May 1, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kang Dae-ha, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

8Eight

Notable? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Seems to be according to 106 Google News hits --Caspian blue 05:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

All I see are lots of squares. When are you going to add the steamed clams recipes I tipped you off about? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I promise to do that after finishing up writing Buddha jumps over the wall and nominating to the DYK event for Buddha's Birthday. :) --Caspian blue 06:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Tenmei made an attack page on you

Here he accused you of sockpuppetry and saying you should be banned. He also seemed to have symphatheies with the guy at Liancourt rocks who was banned.Teeninvestor (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Anyangcheon

On 2 May, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anyangcheon, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 13:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

re:Proposals

I have no problem with moving the section to workshop. My belief is that first we should try to establish principles and then talk about sanctions.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI#Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration#Tenmei's ongoing harassment on and off ArbCom

You may want to comment at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Attack page. --Tenmei (talk) 00:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Tenmei (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

I'm very honored to have your FIRST VISIT on my humble talk page. Whenever I meet you on talk pages, those are all your user page for me to give you WP:No personal attack, and WP:3RR warnings or your wikistalking me to others' talk pages.

If my memory served correct, I did not complain about "your attack page" nor request you to delete it. Because the content of your new subpage is nothing new, and that is a very good evidence to show who you are and how you behave. Anyway, since your ArbCom case is proceeding, I notified your ongoing WP:HARASSMENT to the ArbCom committee Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration#Tenmei's ongoing harassment on and off ArbCom Your such behaviors are all subjects for the case. So thank you for providing such strong evidence. I understand your frustration over the fact that 8 people have heavily criticized your disruptive behaviors. If I were you, I would not cite "a sockpuppeter's attack". Why don't you rethink of your time to spend meaningful, not to harass editors especially me. You're really helping me very much for correcting more evidences. I see your upcoming future. Good luck! :D--Caspian blue 22:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Tenmei's attack page

Hi Caspian. You might want to sift it out at the AN/I page. I think it would be nice if Tenmei just deleted it as it really causes more trouble than it could possibily be worth. If he wants to keep track or notes about whatever is going on, he can do it off Wiki. Maybe I'll just list it to MFD myself and save us all some trouble. Dlohcierekim 01:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I dunno Caspian. I don't know. If you let people run far enough, you see where they are going. AN/I needs to sort it out. Dlohcierekim 02:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Garak Market

Can you believe it was a year ago we were discussing Garak Market? It is incredible how quick the last year passed. Dr. Blofeld 12:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou!! Yum yum! Dr. Blofeld 22:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

RE : As the ArbCom clerk for the Tang Dynasty case

I'll have a word with the Arbs to see if they want the Extended Content to stay or be shifted elsewhere. There are far worse ones (one recent case clocked 750k+++), but we will keep an eye on the case to keep it at a manageable level. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 20:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

• West Bank, which is now at voting stage. - Mailer Diablo 20:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Never ask a question you don't know the answer to; I feel that the latest question should be rephrased a bit, as in "why did you go to arbCom even when everyone else was against it".Teeninvestor (talk) 01:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting my grammar. However, I'm very curious about the matter. --Caspian blue 01:43, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Bringing the Mongol editors into the case would only cause this case to be expanded, most likely to Tenmei's delight as he gets more ammo to use against me and you.Teeninvestor (talk) 21:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, at this point, even if Tenmei requests a motion for them to be a party, everything is too late, and I don't think they are gonna participate in the ArbCom Case. Because once Tenmei crafted the dispute unnecessarily gigantic, they seemed to be tired of the issue. In a sense, they're smart enough not to waste their time on the matter.--Caspian blue 00:02, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

HOly crap! I didn't think she should have been blocked just for that. That was a huge misuse of admin power. Whoever committed it should be desysoped immediately.Teeninvestor (talk) 01:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I don't know the user who was blocked. But I thought it was wikipedia policy at least to give a warning before the block. Not to mention the editor in question was a very good editor(if all the medals on the user page are true).Teeninvestor (talk) 01:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Just gets better and better. He removed large amounts of info and sources from the article just because he didn't agree with it. It is vandalism, I tell you. diff diff diff diff. You know what's funny? He provided me with these links. This guy's a gem.

By the way, he also attacked editor User:Patar Knight who was uninvolved but predictably went against him. Teeninvestor (talk) 21:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

You may want to comment on the proposals I have at Workshop.Teeninvestor (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

New articles

Please check new articles created by me :Dangguo and Black jails Arilang 09:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I posted what I think should be Tenmei's punishment. Please have a look at workshop.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me of it.--Caspian blue 02:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Caspian blue for adding templates to Black jails talk page, may be you can do the same to List of political offences that attract jail terms in China. Arilang 07:31, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Question

In this case, it's the date at which we expect to have a decision ready for voting. There are more details at WP:AC/A, if you're curious. Kirill  20:03, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Snack

I'm having some nice boiled and sliced squid with a tangy sweet red sauce (a few sesame seeds in it too) in your honor. It's very cheap, only a couple bucks for a big dish of it. Then I'm going to have the boiled maize I got. Cheers! ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

What's the name of the Korean movie where the popcorn pops at the end? The one where Americans are portrayed as warmongering tourblemakers (as usual). Is it any good? I saw the epic Korean War one. It was pretty good. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... movie? The Host (film)? I don't know because there are so many movies with such theme. In Hollywood movies, Americans are portrayed as "heroes" or some cheesy slogans can be found like "we save the world" cliche. I don't see any sort of "XYZ-Man" movies whose characters wear rubber suits, so I don't know. But I can tell you what you ate for your Hors d'œuvre, that is "ojing-eo sukhoe", a variety of hoe (dish), (raw or lightly parboiled dishes). The sauce seems to be chogochujang, mixture of gochujang (Korean chili pepper paste), vinegar, and sugar, and sesame seeds. --Caspian blue 19:13, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, maybe not

Well first, thanks for the vote of confidence. But I always figured I was too short-tempered to make a good admin. Also I've got quite recent incidents which may be taken as a sign of violating WP:BITE (mainly this conversation). Might think about it in the future. Cheers, cab (talk) 02:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Buddha Jumps Over the Wall

On May 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Buddha Jumps Over the Wall, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 17:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thank You

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you for supporting me in my recent RfA, which unfortunately did not pass with a final tally of (45/39/9). I plan on addressing the concerns raised and working to improve in the next several months. Special thanks go to MBisanz, GT5162, and MC10 for nominating me. Thanks again, -download ׀ sign! 03:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Empire of Japan navbox

Just created Template:JapanEmpireNavbox to aid in the navigation of Empire of Japan related articles. Please check for inconsistencies and add contributions of your own. Thanks. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 08:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Shark finning and Buddha Jumps Over the Wall

Hello, at Talk:Buddha Jumps Over the Wall#Straw poll I have attempted to summarize in a few words views you expressed at Talk:Buddha Jumps Over the Wall#Due weight to shark finning. Please refactor or confirm if my summary is consistent with your views. Thank you, Bongomatic 23:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Did you see Tenmei? He was posting a denial to every one of my remedies and facts. Lols.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

 Chzz  ►  17:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ta Da

I present to you Economic history of China which is finished!!! Okay, if you want to help , here's the to-do list: 1. add more citations 2. Expand Ming, Qing, ROC, PRC sections(Which were a bit rushed) 3. Get pictures. Teeninvestor (talk) 13:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

By the way, Tenmei is deleting all my comments on his talk page. lols.Teeninvestor (talk) 14:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Socks

I love how you can recognize every Ziggymaster sock by his edit summaries saying "there is no consensus!" or "there is strong opposition!" even though every editor but him has agreed that the version he's reverting to is wrong. I guess you could consider it 'strong opposition' if you count all of his socks... rʨanaɢ /_contribs 15:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Kim jin-kyu

I'm just letting you know that I removed over 300 wikilinks on Kim Jin-kyu because most of the blue links were linking to irrelevant pages and I imagine the red ones are unlikely to go blue anytime soon. I would recommend not restoring them until new articles are created because even some of the statistically improbable titles like The Heart is a Lonely Hunter have other meanings. The links that go to the correct films are still intact. --- Best wishes, Soap /_{Contributions} 22:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Shark's fin soup

Thanks for the useful input! I was not sure if I was using too many citation tags. The article is really progressing in comprehensibility and verifiability nonetheless.Apothecia (talk) 20:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Good to hear that. The article gets better with sourcing anyway.--Caspian blue 23:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Hanbok

Thanks for the rewriting Hanbok. I think you've done a superb job of it. :) 23:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cydevil38 (talk • contribs)

No problem. I just shuffled contents and format citations. I appreciate your hard work to clean up false information. Thanks!--Caspian blue 23:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

나비

나비 (na-bi) is the character’s name in There she is!! (Korean: 떳다 그녀!!). 나비 in Korean means butterfly in English, use any dictionary. The Linux software Nabi uses a butterfly on their logo. Cat in Korean is 고양이 (go-yang-i). 납이 (nab-i) or 납 (nab) is the Korean word for lead (plumbum). What evidence do you have that 나비 is used for Cat? --Bejnar (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Evidence for cat

For some weird reason I can't not directly response to Bejnar's protest. So I make a new section in response to him/her.

http://kordic.nate.com/dicsearch/view.html?i=6668600

This Korean dictionary page will clear your doubt. Regards. (Tokki 토끼 means "rabbit" in Korean, just for your information)--Caspian blue 21:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

So what you are saying is that a secondary meaning, or idiom, of 나비 (butterfly) is when it is used as a diminutive for a cat, just as 고양이 (cat) is used as a diminutive for 말 (horse). I will make the correction. --Bejnar (talk) 21:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

• 나비 has five different meanings

1. butterfly
2. cat
3. width
4. a dialect referring to silkworm
5. a dialect referring to 'next'

Those have nothing to do with horse. I'm not sure what you're talking about.--Caspian blue 21:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Read the definition at http://kordic.nate.com/dicsearch/view.html?i=6668600. --Bejnar (talk) 04:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

You've been uncivil without reason and the link is what I gave you. What relation does 나비 have with "horse"?--Caspian blue 04:49, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

말 (short) means horse but 말 (long) means speech/word. --Kjoonlee 23:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

So there's no relation between cat and horse. The catch is just that a typical speaker of Standard South Korean as spoken in Seoul will pronounce horse and word identically. --Kjoonlee 23:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Clifton's Cafeteria

Nice find on the photo. Are there any problems using historical images from online sources if I set proper non-free image use? Schmidt, 20:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...Durova knows better of image-related copyright than I do. I think that could be a problem even if you set them as non-free image use. You may better contact the manager of the cafeteria and get a permission, and then forward the email to OTRS. Anyway, good job on the new article. :)--Caspian blue 20:10, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Except for the curent pictures of the current cafeteria, these no longer exist: Clifton's Pacific Seas exterior, Clifton's Pacific Seas interior, Clifton's Brookdale exterior 1938, Clifton's exterior todayClifton's brookdale interior, Clifton'a Silver Spoon exterior, Clifton's The Greenery exterior, Clifton'e The Greenery interior. I'm going to do some reseacrh on historical useages of such. Schmidt, 20:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Found "historically significant fair use image", which may apply for the older images. Schmidt, 20:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, but I'm not sure. Anyway, we have images of the current Clifton's Cafeteria.--Caspian blue 20:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I do like the second pic you found for Clifton's exterior to be much better. I called Clifton's several times trying to talk to management, but after being always put on hold for 15 minutes and imagining my long distance bill climbing I cut my losses there. I suppose its indicative of how busy they may be. However, next time I am in downtown LA I will personally visit the branch, take a few photos, and approach them about gaining access and specific permision for use of historical images of earlier facilities. Thanks much for helping out! Schmidt, 20:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, money... you already donate your precious time, but the long distance bill is too much pain...Don't they have a website or email? Oh well, you did the good job of sharing the oldest cafeteria in LA. Thank you for the good work.--Caspian blue 21:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom update

Newyorkbrad is starting to work on the proposals. A decision should be reached soon.Teeninvestor (talk) 21:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I wonder why he posted templates for hi drafting proposals to Workshop instead of to the proposal page? --Caspian blue 21:47, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad has posted several principles; you might want to check them out.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, harsher sanctions could be justified if the scope of the case was expanded from Inner Asia during the Tang Dynasty to Tenmei's other actions. However, that motion was not mentioned by Newyorkbrad. Maybe we can sort this out with the other arbitrators' reactions.Teeninvestor (talk) 01:24, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I will be adding new content to the Tang-Gokturk wars article shortly.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:24, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, what harm can come out of it.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:26, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Arbitrator found to be sockpuppeteer, COI

diff. Yikes, a Poetlister-style sockpuppeteer on ArbCom.Teeninvestor (talk) 14:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Heads up, an arbitrator seems to be relatively favorable towards Tenmei.Teeninvestor (talk) 11:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Inquiry for ITN

It appears that nobody has yet begun today's section. Did he die today or yesterday? I'm sure there is no harm in nominating him under the 22nd (which it probably still is in the US). The future events section is probably more for things like elections and spaceflights but (having originally created it and not been informed of why items should be removed) I am puzzled as to why something would be removed from it for no reason. It was probably removed from P:CE because it is a death and they expect you to put those at Deaths in 2009 (those IPs don't seem to leave edit summaries, I too find this annoying and confusing at times). However, if it is to be a death debate it should be OK to nominate it at WP:ITN/C under the 22nd. --candle•wicke 02:59, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

On 23 May, 2009, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article Roh Moo-hyun, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

It has been posted now. Thanks for you contributions and asking for assistance. :) --candle•wicke 17:34, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again!--Caspian blue 17:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

There's no need to be sad any longer. You too keep up the good work and thanks for your kind words of encouragement. --candle•wicke 18:21, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Baklava

Thanks for your note. I am certainly not the 'manager' of the baklava article, but I have it on my watchlist because it attracts an inordinate amount of attention from POV-pushers (not that your comment is in that category!). I agree that there are all sorts of silly disputes on this and other talk pages, but at least they are relevant to editing the article. Musing about how fattening a food is... well, I just don't see the point on a Talk page. --macrakis (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I think my comment is relevant to the subject, so please respect my opinion. Thanks.--Caspian blue 20:07, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Behaviors

That's fine. I'm still looking through the evidence. Wizardman 22:57, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

NYB has finished posting at proposed decision. You may want to comment.Teeninvestor (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for posting the edit stats at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for adminship/Majorly 2. Gives me a nice break. :) –Juliancolton |  23:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, makes sense! –Juliancolton |  00:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Gae

Please don't add dictionary definitions to disambig pages, see WP:DAB. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:15, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: CoM-Wikidemon

I'll re-look at the evidence for that over the next day - I don't think I looked at it as closely as I should have, if what you've found is true or an uderstatement. Wizardman 03:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for coming out

I would like to thank you for coming out and participating in my Request for Adminship, which closed unsuccessfully at (48/8/6) based on my withdrawal. I withdrew because in my opinion I need to focus on problems with my content contributions before I can proceed with expanding my responsibilities. Overall I feel that the RfA has improved me as an editor and in turn some articles which in my eyes is successful. Thank you again for your participation. Cheers and happy editing.--kelapstick (talk) 19:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Deborah Voigt

I was skimming DYK and came across your work on the Voight article. I noted that it is close to the needed expansion to go through (which would be great). I was thinking an obvious area to expand is actually the lead. It is currently one para, and doesn't mention the weight/ loss controversy at all. I think the lead would be better as around three paras rather than the current one. Normally i would jump in and just do it myself, but I know nothing of the topic and you seem to be busy doing a great job, so I just thought I'd make the suggestion here. I hope you don't feel I'm just making work for another editor (ie. you!) :-) If you want to ping me at my talk page and ask me to do it, that's fine, but i may not get to it for about 48 hrs. cheers. hamiltonstone (talk) 00:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion, but I'm not a native speaker nor good at writing artistic evaluations with flowery words, so I'm not sure I can follow your suggestion at this time. Within 2 days, I have to insert 2000 characters for the DYK anyway and that task has been a very demanding/challenging job for me (I usually edit/expand articles up to 4500 something within 5 days), so honestly, I'm very exhausted. Sorry that I can not give you a satisfiable answer for the good faith suggestion.--Caspian blue 05:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Gopchang jeongol

On June 2, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gopchang jeongol, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 02:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi CB,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Quaterionenadler David de Negker.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on June 5, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-06-05. howcheng {chat} 05:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice.Caspian blue 05:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Good Humor

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For working on Deborah Voigt for WP:DYK while enduring terrible puns about weight loss. Bearian (talk) 18:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

RE : Tenmei

Okay, but you'll will need to disengage from the conflict as well, otherwise it won't help matters. I'll inform him accordingly. - Mailer Diablo 22:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)