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In all honesty, I feel that UseTheCommandLine is using bully tactics to prevent these edits (which accurately reflect the content of the articles), from appearing on the page, as they go against his personal opinion. This was a '''preliminary''' attempt to get me blocked."] (]) 01:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC) In all honesty, I feel that UseTheCommandLine is using bully tactics to prevent these edits (which accurately reflect the content of the articles), from appearing on the page, as they go against his personal opinion. This was a '''preliminary''' attempt to get me blocked."] (]) 01:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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November 2012

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April 2013

Hello, I'm Excirial. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Vietnamese American, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Excirial 19:13, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

Information icon Welcome to Misplaced Pages. I notice that you added some content to Orthomolecular medicine that appears to be a minority or fringe viewpoint. Unfortunately, the edits appear to give undue weight to this minority viewpoint, and have been reverted or altered. To maintain a neutral point of view, an idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in any article. Feel free to use the article's talk page to discuss this, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Bishonen | talk 22:38, 21 August 2013 (UTC).

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Ok, not vandalism. That's just a generic message, but your edits do go against established consensus. Looking at the affiliations, "1Department of Complementary and Alternative Medicine," I'm not convinced. Sorry. James12345 18:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


Please stop. Articles on Misplaced Pages do not give fringe material equal weight to majority viewpoints; content in articles are given representation in proportion to their prominence. If you continue in this manner, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Bishonen | talk 18:10, 22 August 2013 (UTC).

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for persistent disruptive editing and continuing to add fringe POV to Orthomolecular medicine after warnings.. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bishonen | talk 18:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC).
You are only further diminishing the credibility of wikipedia as a source with this policy, and your action will be used as an example of how wikipedia engages in censorship and information control.
The prevailing view on wikipedia seems to be - if the establishment doesn't like something, we're going to marginalize it at all costs, even if reviews in mainstream journals show evidence. Furthermore, we will misrepresent what these journals say, and lie, to serve the interests of reinforcing establishment views.
My comment was "However, there has been a recent emergence of interest in pharmacological ascorbate as cancer treatment as evidence has emerged that intravenous administration is required to achieve an anti-cancer effect, as reflected by three recent reviews in mainstream journals.": http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Orthomolecular_medicine&diff=569761391&oldid=569759324
All the reviews I gave support the position. As I noted in the talk page of the person who reverted my edits, "your edit is misleading, the reviews provide evidence for high doses if intravenous ascorbate - the specific point of this review is that intravenous administration achieves effects that oral administration does not: http://ar.iiarjournals.org/content/29/3/809.long
update: I received your talk page comment, but it is in a mainstream journal, other mainstream reviews still note evidence of efficacy: http://advances.nutrition.org/content/2/2/78 - search "Pharmacologic ascorbate" (repeating this search throughout the text will yield ), and see the entirety of the section "Ascorbate and cancer treatment" of this review: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304419X12000509"
I also noted, regarding the first review, regarding the misconception inferred by only reading a little into the first review that "what the article is refute that by providing a convergence of efficacy for intravenous (as opposed to oral, which the 2 trials used) vitamin C - read the rest of it and the conclusion"
These are not fringe sources, these are recent, and support the idea that there is a rising view among researchers in the scientific community, based on new research, that intravenous ascorbate needs to be reconsidered. You can obfuscate it all you want, but the facts remain the same.
The reviews do not support the statement "Despite a lack of evidence for its efficacy, interest in intravenous high dose vitamin C therapy has not been permanently extinguished, and some research groups to continue to investigate whether it has an effect as a possible cancer treatment." Rather, they provide evidence of efficacy, once calls for a reconsideration of the traditional view, and others compile more evidence. The point of the original source is that intravenous vitamin C is effective where oral is not.
There is an assumption that evidence, as established by reputable sources, and the view of government bodies are one and the same. This is a mistaken assumption, especially in this case, and ignores the fact, among many other facts relevant to this, that increased pharmaceutical advertising in journals is associated with publishing fewer articles about vitamins and publishing more articles with conclusions that vitamins are unsafe: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/8/11
I'm sorry it took an actual block to get you to respond to anything on this page. Now that you're blocked, don't talk to me, if you wish to be unblocked; get an uninvolved admin to review my block. This you can do by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} below the block notice, just the way it's described in the block notice above. The magic curly brackets and other code will mean your request appears in Category:Requests for unblock. Click on the link to see the page. Nobody's going to see your argument if you just write it here, as you've done; but if it appears on that page, many admins will. I'd strongly advise you to read the guide to appealing blocks first.
P.S., you say above that you " received talkpage page comment", but that must be some misunderstanding. I haven't written any other talkpage comments than my warnings + block notice here, on this page. Please note that there's a signature after every talkpage posts (except yours, indeed; please use four tildes, ~~~~, to sign your posts). You won't find mine, Bishonen, on Talk:Orthomolecular medicine. Bishonen | talk 01:09, 23 August 2013 (UTC).

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Edits at Orthomolecular medicine

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September 2013

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Information icon Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Vzaak (talk) 21:42, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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You are referring to this edit history of today: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Orthomolecular_medicine&action=history

I do not see how I am doing this, as I did not revert another person's edits, attempted to accurately reflect content of articles while demonstrating NPOV, and posted concerns on the talk page. The warning is inappropriate.198.189.184.243 (talk) 01:06, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, and as I note (for future reference): http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=574265120&oldid=574264013

"To UseTheCommandLine - I attempted to accurately reflect the content of the articles, as well as the phase I trials. Please tell me how I violated policy. You appear to be demonstrating lack of NPOV, as you are not accurately reflecting the content of the articles. The reviews are here, my coverage of them is accurate: http://ar.iiarjournals.org/content/29/3/809.long, http://advances.nutrition.org/content/2/2/78

Regarding "edit warring", You are referring to this edit history of today: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Orthomolecular_medicine&action=history

and this edit I made, where I engaged in nothing approaching 3RR violations, as I made 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Orthomolecular_medicine&diff=574259777&oldid=574258763 - which I modified to be more NPOV than the other revision, modifying it to state "some research groups argued". I have not since reverted the article, and at the end of the talk page, I urged other editors to abide, for the improvement of the article, to the BRD policy: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Orthomolecular_medicine&diff=574261603&oldid=574259929

It is interesting, by the way, that other editors were earlier demonstrating NOTAFORUM violations, but UseThecommandLine only removed mine. See the comment to this, where he said "feel free to remove the collapsing thing if you feel the discussion can be re-directed productively": http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Orthomolecular_medicine&diff=573488383&oldid=573448770

Yet when I responded, he removed my response under the pretext that it violated NOTAFORUM. The difference between revisions states, "Reverted to revision 573488383 by UseTheCommandLine: NOTFORUM.": http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Orthomolecular_medicine&diff=573752194&oldid=573714342

I do not see how I am violating policy and edit warring, as I did not do anything close to violating 3RR (I only made 1 edit, I didn't even revert the article after that edit was reverted), attempted to accurately reflect content of articles while demonstrating NPOV, and posted concerns on the talk page. The warning is inappropriate. I brought up this issue on his talk page, and he merely said "please do not comment here", showing how his animosity was driving his edit decisions: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:UseTheCommandLine&diff=574262022&oldid=574261422

In all honesty, I feel that UseTheCommandLine is using bully tactics to prevent these edits (which accurately reflect the content of the articles), from appearing on the page, as they go against his personal opinion. This was a preliminary attempt to get me blocked."198.189.184.243 (talk) 01:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Topic ban from fringe science

Under the authority of discretionary sanctions as provided in Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience, and pursuant to the decision at WP:AN3#User:198.189.184.243 reported by User:UseTheCommandLine (Result: Topic ban under WP:ARBPS) you are indefinitely banned from the topic of fringe science, on all pages of Misplaced Pages. For clarity, this includes all the articles in Category:Fringe science including Orthomolecular medicine. If you disagree with this action, see the instructions for appealing at the top of WP:Arbitration enforcement. You should use the template {{Arbitration enforcement appeal}}. This ban can be appealed to me as the enforcing admin, to WP:AE or to the Arbitration committee. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)