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	==Archived Discussions==		==Archived Discussions==
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			== For you ==
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			El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. ] is for you. Regards, ] 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
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			:Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, ] 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
	== 1948 Arab-Israeli War ==
			Well I noticed and missed you! (Official ] ). ] (]) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture ... for all of your work. ] (]) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
	You unprotected the ] article, with comment ''"I hope the protection period proved productive"''. I am sorry to crush your hope, but the matter is currently under arbitration. Unprotecting the article would be unwise at this time.--] ] 03:01, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
			:Many thanks! ] 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
	PS: Did you make the fractals yourself? Cool. --] ] 03:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
	:Hi. No, they're from Commons. My hopes are not crushed, nor was the page unprotected yet, I am still waiting to review any objections. Regards, ] 03:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
			:I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...
	:: I think the page should stay protected for now, at least until we see how things are going in the arb case. Btw, your input on that page would be most appreciated. --] 07:53, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
	:::Yeah, okay, if you think that's best. Sure, I'll try to figure out what's what soon. Bring on the paranormal investigators! Regards, ] 07:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
	:::Ehm, the reason for this request is mostly that I stayed up a little too late yesterday. If this it bad, you should have seen what I wrote on the ] model (fixed it now, of course). --] ] 12:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
	::::Heh, no, you're good; but I think you got the wrong idea what was meant by "]", which luckily will have no bearing on the accuracy or lack thereof in the investigation of the paranormal. ] 13:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
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	::::: OMFG, PPPLEASE DON'T!!!! --] ] 18:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
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			<center>Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:</center>
	:::::My thoughts exactly! I mean, what? Regards, ] 01:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
	==Islam in the United States==
	Hi El C. There have been responses to unprotection ]. Thanks --] <sup>]</sup> 17:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
	:Thanks for the notice. Regards, ] 01:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
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	==Wishes==
	Hello, I wish you and your family a prosperous and happy New Year 2006! We shall surely remain actively involved in the Project Misplaced Pages. --] 17:13, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
	:Many thanks, Bhadani. Best wishes to you & yours for a joyful as well as productive 2006! Yours, ] 00:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
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	== Hebrew wiki ==
			<center>And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:</center>
	Try the 1929 massacre "טבח חברון" The role of the mufti there is well shown and if you copy thisd into 1929 you will be reverted. So to argue that that Hebrew wiki is "the authorative source" can not be accepted. ] 06:38, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
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	:I made no such argument, 'tis a featured article, though. Copy what? I'm not following that at all. ] 07:13, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
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			<center>Also, two days ago I got to rub a ]'s tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:</center>
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	== If you're interested ==
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	Been working hard on the ] article as I promised...have a look...have recently expanded the section discussing glaciers and global warming...I'm almost done covering most I can and I'm probably going to send it off to peer review in a week or so...if you see anything that needs changing, well, don't hesitate!--] 12:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
	:Looking good! Real good! Well done. Will have a closer look soon. Cordially & sincerely yours, ] 13:00, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
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	== k, sorry ==
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	I just saw the comment by Pgk that it messes up the main page, didn't realise that - You didn't say *why* you were changing, which would've helped :) --''] <sup>'''<span style="color:#800080">(</span>'''] ¦ ]'''<span style="color:#800080">)</span>'''</sup>'' 14:10, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
	:No problem. I see. Still, when in doubt, please ask (i.e. ] a rational impetus). Thanks again. ] 14:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
			:You look really good in your purple hat! ] | ] 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).
	== Costa Rica ==
			::Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! ] 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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			Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? ] | ] 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).
			:::And then there's Skunky! ] 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
	Squeakbox says the Costa Rica statement violates the NPOV i dont think it does because its just a statement people have made to about Costa Rica. XGustaX Could you please help me out buddy? ]
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			== Oooo. Purdy! ==
	:Has the matter been resolved now? Looks like you both violated 3RR. As mentioned earlier, the passage was translated from a print encyclopedia, and I also provided further authoritative sources at that time (on the talk page). ] 23:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
			Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
	== Happy New Year! ==
			:Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! ] 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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	]For last year's words belong to last year's language
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	:And next year's words await another voice.
			== Seasons Greetings ==
	:And to make an end is to make a beginning.
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	:<small>''], "Little Gidding"</small>
	:Happy New Year! ] <small>] &bull; ]</small> 20:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)		::Hello. Thanks, ] 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
			] (]) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)]]
	::Thanks! Happy New Year! ] 23:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC) &mdash; ''Now!'' ] 00:00, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
			Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! ] 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
	==Er... ==
			== Happy Groundhog Day ==
	Tried what? To delete that userbox? -- <font color="#FF0000">'''Миборовский'''</font> <sup>]|]|]|]|]!</sup> 04:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Tried to indent my signature without all the blank space. ] 04:51, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
			Happy day! ] <sup>]</sup> 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
	==Wording==
	I apologize for my use of the term "illegal". What I meant was "out of process" (i.e. not following ]). In hindsight, I agree that the original term was too inflammatory. ] 15:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Apology accepted. Thanks. ] 15:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	== Userpage ==		==Chippies==
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			El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --] (]) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
			:No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). ] 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
			"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --] (]) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
			Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures! <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] 😼 </span> 01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
	What's the latest change to your userpage supposed to mean? -- ] · ] 15:39, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Good question! Sadly, I no longer recall much, except that looking at Mia suddenly made me very, very sleepy. Almost as if she was singing to me: ♪''Trust in me, just in me, close your eyes and trust in me.''♪ Hypnotic! /slips into silent slumber, sails on a silver mist. ] 15:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
			== Book? ==
	==Faux-wikiStalinist userbox==
			Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) ]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
			== ]] ] ==
	Your Che picture and quote <s>give me indigestion</s> ''inspires me to adopt the revolutionary path'', but that userbox goes on the list of funniest wikimoments of all time, and it's now on my userpage and ]'s userpage, thanks! ] 17:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:For sure! I also applied some friendly censorship to your outrageous counter-revolutionary subversion! ] 17:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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	Users who disendorse this summary (sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>):
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	#Your lameness knows no bounds. ] 12:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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	#:<s>I echo that.</s> Stop following me already! ] 12:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	#::Not to mention you stole that template. ] 12:29, 1 January 2066 (UTC)
	#:::I have no idea what you're talking about. ] 12:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	#::::Riiight. It wasn't funny the third time, it's not gonna be funny the sixth time. Idiot. ] 12:30, 1 January 2666 (UTC)
	#::::Actually, I laughed. It was funny! - ] 14:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	#:::::I laughed, too. It's actually very funny. I particularly like the "and would do it again." LOL ] 14:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	#:::::: LOLZ-until-heart-attack, that is so funny, OMG thank you El_C, I'm putting it on my userpage!! ] 16:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	#:::::::You ''reproduced'' it? Why do you even bother? Nobody cares. ] 12:45, 1 January 2060 (UTC)
	#::::::::Can you just shut up already. ] 18:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	====The Counter Strike====
	{{User_survived}} &nbsp; - By ] --] 15:41, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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	&nbsp; Users who think this is all playground madness (sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>):
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	#See, now everyone can see you stole it from Hmib. Idiot. ] 16:00, 1 January 2606 (UTC)		] 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
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	#:What, I didn't say anything! ] 16:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	#:: This is just pathetic at this point. Ugen was right to mock you. And you actually approached him on his talk page! I can't believe what an idiot you are. ] 12:45, 1 January 2660 (UTC)
	====What the heck====		== Rev-dels ==
			Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - ] (]) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
	What the heck is going on here? I just went to have a little NPA chat with Kitty, only to see Red's note and wonder if I'd missed something. Somebody please tell me what the heck is going on! -- ] · ] 03:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Affirmative. ] 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
	:I doubt he'll comment. I think that, at this point, Kitty is concentrating on less NPAing &mdash; wish him luck! ] 16:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
			::OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - ] (]) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
	== Qur'an Image Removal ==
	The image is not suitable to Quran holiness ] 17:21, 1 January 2006 (UTC)		:::Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. ] 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
	:I, for one, do not consider any book to be holy, but that aside, why do you find it unsuitable? ] 17:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
			::::Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ''ask'', so thanks. :) - ] (]) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
	== Hello ==
	Hi El C. Happy New Year! Just wanted to point out that banned ] is currently editing the Islamist Terrorism article using anon IP 66.69.139.191. Definitely enviroknot; check contribs where he tried to remove the sock tag from an old enviroknot sockpuppet. Thanks. --] <sup>]</sup> 18:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Happy new year, AE! I'll try to have a look at it soon, but now is not a good time, I'm afraid. ] 18:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
	== A familiar problem ==		== Romania ==
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			I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. ] (]) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
			:Ah, the thanks I get! ] 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
			===And all I got was a ^^^ ===
	I think you've probably had some experiences with ] (I imagine none good). He has, unfortunately, found the page ] that I am one of three or four "maintainers" on. As a start, he started out adding various USA boosterism to talk pages (or more specifically, anti-Communist ranting). That wasn't so bad, being talk pages and all. But unfortunately, it seems to be leading where I thought it would lead: mostly, so far, to moderately bad changes to the Castro entry (chiefly, so far, in removal of citations on the grounds they are not "sufficiently anti-Castro"). But I fear it portend even more obnoxious changes, probably spreading to other items.
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	I think he'll probably violate 3RR soon (takes one more edit). So maybe that will keep him away on a short-term block. From what I can see of his edit history, such would be very transient relief though. Any advice by chance? These ideological warriors are just so damned frustrating to deal with while editing any pages with vaguely political content. The dictators one, maybe not surprisingly, gets more anti-Castro fanatics than all other destructive edits combined. Moreover, it's not even a dispute about listing Castro, it's just that they seem to feel that the annotation isn't sufficiently long and vitriolic for their tastes (but what they add is ''never'' germane to the list inclusion criteria, which is what we annotate). Blech! ] 18:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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			== Precious anniversary ==
	:Bletch! indeed. When an encyclopedia project reports the lie about "free elections" in Cuba, I feel the need to resist. How evil of me. ] 19:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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			--] (]) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
			:Nice. Thanks, Gerda! {{smiley}} ] 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
			:: Thank you. Good day, ? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is ], where we nominate for ''recent'' deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found and then is seems long to still call it recent. --] (]) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have {{posted}} the , but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the got a — it's a magical place! ] 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::: I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated ] for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's ], listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --] (]) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::Hey, by all means, if you feel ] is , let me know so I could do the honours. ] 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::: I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with ], a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent ''already'' get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --] (]) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::Indeed, ] is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of ], I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the ]... Anyway, ''+Peter Dreher to RD.'' ] 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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			:::::::: Thank you, love-ly! --] (]) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::: I nominated the poet for ITNN. --] (]) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::::At the ! ] 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::::: and posted ;) --] (]) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::::::That was quick! I helped? ] 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::::::: think so ;) - today's '']'' became after yesterday's funeral. --] (]) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
			{{od}} Next foreign women RD: ]. --] (]) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
			:{{re|Gerda Arendt}} sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. ] 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			===''Gerda's corner''===
			] 08:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)]]
			To help me better remember! {{smiley}} ] 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			:Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. ] (]) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			:<small>Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! ] (]) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)</small>
			::<small>Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been ] (special thanks goes to {{u|Jasmin Ariane}}!).</small> ] 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			::: Lovely corner, thank you! Today is ], two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get ] in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by ], another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --] (]) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			::: On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --] (]) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			::::Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with (!). ] 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::: Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --] (]) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::: nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --] (]) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::::Sleep tight. ] 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::::: done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --] (]) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::::: Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about ]? --] (]) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. ] 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::: How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend ], but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --] (]) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::::{{Done}}. ]. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! ] 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
			:::::::::: pacified ;) --] (]) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
			::::::::::: Thanks for tagging me, {{u|El_C}}! {{smiley}} Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! {{smiley}} It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. {{smiley}} PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. ] (]) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
			::::::::::::♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the ], I'm listening to ] right now (because I love ], above all else), and I'm listening to the ] in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ ] 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
			== Gerda's February corner ==
	::My apologies, but I'll have to review this issue later, I need a bit of a reprieve from conflict. Thank you both for your patience. ] 19:20, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
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			Want a drink in darkness? - ] --] (]) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of '''<span style="color:green">Green</span>''': (just released). ] 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:: I missed Mathsci for two years. --] (]) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::Criss-crossing paths... ] 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::: ] --] (]) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::That's right, I remember seeing that. ] 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::: Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --] (]) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. ] 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::: I am impressed. ... and follow to ]? ... which was ] until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --] (]) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. ] 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::: I copied that from ] including the top icon - ] on the Main page today --] (]) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: ''wow, those birds are almost as ] as ]s , which are... well, kinda the best!'' ] 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::: yes --] (]) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::: Opa is now on the Main page, ], who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - . - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --] (]) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::Yay for '''<span style="color:green">Green Opa!</span>''' This made my day!{{smiley}} ] 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::: Today, we have ] on her 97th birthday ;) --] (]) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::::''']''' ] 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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			] ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --] (]) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
			... and after the music, please listen to {{ill|User talk:Nikkimaria|1004801908|1004759329|Nikkimaria}} --] (]) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
	== Vandalism by ]? ==
			:I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. ] 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
	Earlier today you reverted nearly two dozen edits by ] where the user added links to the "MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base" web site. At first blush, this appeared to me to be ], however upon further review, I am not so sure now. While the link is clearly not appropriate for some of the more specific articles such as ] and ], it looks like it could be a good external resource link for more general articles such as ], ], etc. --] 18:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
			:: entirely my fault, I ''thought'' I had in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ''ill'' and ''diff'', {{diff|User talk:Nikkimaria|1004801908|1004759329|Nikkimaria}}. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --] (]) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
	:I haven't reviewed the ] closely, in that sense (though I would prefer x terrorism-specific, preferably non-repetitive ]) &mdash; use your discretion. ] 18:20, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
			:::Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda ''meh''. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like , for example. ] 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::: Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --] (]) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::I did not. Quoted where? Also, after ''Opa'', I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. ] 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::: my next mistake, - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to ] ;) - RfC for ], and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --] (]) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::] laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (), so there you go. Take that, eternity! ] 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::: Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the {{diff|User talk:Brianboulton|1005557940||support by Brian}}, ] when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --] (]) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — ]). ] 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::: ] --] (]) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::: did you? - ] --] (]) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like ]. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? ] 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::: Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew ''nothing'' about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, ], I have a problem. The article was all built (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and for recently mentioned examples. --] (]) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your ] problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. ] 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::: You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was when I began "taking over". - Did you see this ? --] (]) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::::It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. ] 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::::: Thank you, helped. I just found (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --] (]) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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			:Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at ], btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! ] 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
			:: adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --] (]) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::Lovely, lovely! ] 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			== Request to put ] under ] ==
	::This was gleaned from the MIPT website's "about us" page:
			{{re|El_C}} {{re|Octoberwoodland}} Continuing ], I'd like to request that ] be put under ] (I guess that would be ]?). How do I make such a request? Post to ]? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — ] (]) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
	::::The National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (MIPT) is a non-profit organization dedicated to preventing terrorism on U.S. soil or mitigating its effects. MIPT was established after the April 1995 bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, and it is funded through the Department of Homeland Security's Office for State and Local Government Coordination and Preparedness (OSLGCP).
			:{{u|Chrisahn}}, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. ] 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:: No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — ] (]) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like ] (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, ] 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::: Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{tl|ds/editnotice}} and {{tl|ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — ] (]) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::I just type ] (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! ] 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? ] (]) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
	::::The United States Congress directed MIPT to conduct “research into the social and political causes and effects of terrorism” through our automated information systems and to “serve as a national point of contact for antiterrorism information sharing among Federal, State and local preparedness agencies, as well as private and public organizations dealing with these issues.” MIPT firmly believes that the accurate dissemination of knowledge on terrorism is a critical ingredient for combating terrorism. Serving the needs of emergency responders, counterterrorism practitioners, policymakers, and the public, MIPT offers access to a wealth of information resources including its knowledge base initiatives, its website, and its library collection.
			:Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, {{u|Qexigator}}, so short of pointing you to the ]-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid ] at all cost! Regards, ] 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			: Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example ], nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --] (]) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			::Haha! See what I mean, {{u|Qexigator}}? ''*Pokes Gerda*'' ] 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			::Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' ] (]) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			::: My favourite is ]. --] (]) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::The unquestionable elegance of ]. ] 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::: I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it ] ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --] (]) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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	::While I could be mistaken, this looks to be a good resource for the general purpose terrorism articles. --] 18:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
			:''''']''''' <small>(YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)</small>
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	:::I'm leaning toward singular usage (i.e. ]) at this stage; see my comment above. ] 18:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
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	== possible request for comment? ==
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	I am inclined to let it slide because I think I am dealing with a nut-case. But do you consider this (the last sentence) an anti-Semitic threat? ] | ] 19:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Yes, it certainly seems suggestive of being exactly that. Let me know what happens. Regards, ] 19:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
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	== Widey pages ==
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	I have no idea. It seems to do that every few weeks. ;-) ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 20:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
	:You must fix that immediately, or terrifyingly harsh penalties will follow! ] 20:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
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	Is the poem below by Ghoreselkhi, or by Brecht? It sounds like Brecht (meaning: it is good). As far as I can tell the wideying problem on Slim's talk page has NOT been solved. About pages for deletion, would you mind nominating it? I'll second, but I have been such a contentious part of the debaate on the talk page I do not think I am the best person to make the initial proposal, ] | ] 21:20, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Yes, by comrade Ghoreselkhi! :) Looks solved to me, but maybe I'm running a higehr resolution than you. Anyway, it's ]. ] 23:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
	Thanks X 2 ] | ] 00:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
	:NP. AfD is kinda complixcated now; took me a while to figure out I need === for the title (not one, not two, not four, nor five). Of course, all I actually had to do is look at any other entry, but no, I had to go through a process of elimination! Yay! ] 00:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
			]
	==Moderate, Mediate, Whatever==
	Yeah, I did :-P
	I am technically moderating regardless, but i'll page move. ] 05:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Not to overtax the subtleties! ] 05:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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	== DOM ==
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	Thank you, El C for responding! I followed your suggestion and placed my thoughts on the DOM talk page for your consideration. Please let me know if it is concise and your thoughts, too. Sincerely, ] 05:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Thanks; I'll keep an eye for responses as well as try to study it further soon. Regards, ] 05:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
	::Thank you! Sincerely, ] 05:37, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
	:::Dear El C, Have you had time to look at these unresolved issues? Sincerely, ] 07:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::Sorry, I havne't; it has been just madness around here. I will try to attend to it hopefuly sometimes this week. Regards, ] 07:30, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
	:::::Hi again. I have reviewed and responded to your comment. Thanks again. Regards, ] 12:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::::Dear El C, Thank you for taking the time to respond, and I believe I understand some of what you are saying, but don't think my questions may have been clear enough, so I've asked again in different words. Kindly try again to see my points, and find a solution to giving balance and accuracy to the DOM article. Sincerely, ] 01:13, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
	:::::::Hi again. I responded to your comment, which deals specifically with clarity (or lack thereof, rather) of the items. Thanks again. Regards, ] 01:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
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	|width="90%" bgcolor=#e4f2ff style="padding:.5em"| Greetings, El C! I wanted to sincerely thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with a final result of 55/14/3. Your support means a lot to me! If you have any questions or input regarding my activities, be they adminly or just a "normal" user's, or if you just want to chat about anything at all, feel free to ]. Cheers! &mdash;] ] 07:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:Hmm.... ] 14:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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	::Mh? &mdash;] ] 14:18, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:::Yes, Mh, I'm afraid. ] 14:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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	::::Would you care to elaborate? &mdash;] ] 06:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:::::Sorry, but I realized that I am not prepared to elaborate at this time. I will let you know. Thanks for your interest. Regards, ] 09:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
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	::::::Okay then. Take care! &mdash;] ] 10:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
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	== about the picture ,,, ==
	Hi , first of all for this anon , I'm not sock puppet for any person and this is big insult , any way , my concern about the picture is in one thing only:
	the picture is not related to the key topic (it can be suitable to sub topic , any other thing , but as a key topic it is not related at all , that is it ).
	I'm not against the picture , and zora said that : "the women even didn't touch the picture " actually according to the Islamic faith , there is no single issue if this women was naked and touch quran , touching in our faith ( and in the quran script doesn't mean real touch , but means "understanding" ).
	and zora said something about picture for the Christ , actually the comparison is not fair at all , since the picture was under topic photography , so if she is going to compare , she should compare holy books key topics to each other,
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	so , the issue is very simple and is not related to any thing other than it is not suitable at all,
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	thanks.
	] 08:03, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
			<small>Last updated: ] 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</small>
	:Hi, Mostafa, and thank you for the prompt response. In partial answer to your question, it's an enormous Qur'an, commissioned by the ] of ] &mdash; it's difficult to argue that it's entirely unrelated. I realize that in terms of the historical impact of the book, this is trivia, but at the same time, it's an encyclopedic piece of history nonetheless. No, it isn't crucial, but it adds positive, if marginal, colour to the article. Since it is, then, fairly marginal, ordinarily, I would'nt care (and I don't, really) if it's dropped from the article &mdash; <u>however,</u> there is a more fundamental issue at play here. I am not willing to give in to objections which, seemingly, are rooted in misogynistic reactions to the woman in the picture (which add the human versus enormous Qur'an proportion). I strongly feel that Misplaced Pages should strive toward secular and modern presentation, not subject to the, in this case, sexually ascetic 'whims' of this or that religion, and in general, their peculiarities playing a role in this aforementioned presentation. This, of course, isn't limited to religion, and it's the same thing for an atheist monarchist to write Her Majesty for a queen as it is for a Muslim to write Peace be upon him for Ali. And it dosen't mean disrespect is the order of the day. A much less clad woman would be disrespectful &mdash; I'm not in favour of rubbing conservative Muslims' (or Chirstians, Hinduists, Jews, etc.) nose in what offends them, as irrational as I myself may find it. Still, if it's a matter of ''sleeves'', then I don't think Misplaced Pages should 'capitulate' to objections which stem from this tendency. This, because the oppressive laws & customs which (I argue) dehumanize woman to such an extent, in countries such as Iran and Saudi Arabia, are ones that not only I, myself, consider outrageously discriminatory against women, amounting to a form of fascism, but is also a view shared by the majority of of editors on Misplaced Pages. Editors who are predominatly from secular Western (and to a lesser extent, Former Eastern-block) nations; that is, although most of whom are theists, they at the same time, more-or-less-so follow secularism in a political-legal (I would say ''libertarian'' for even greater accuracy, but the word has been so distorted beyond any and all recognition) sense. Thus, I think you are likely to see a lot of opposition to these sort of protests, maybe not so much in this case (then again, maybe so), but for more crucially-''related'' issues and themes, certainly. So what amounts to an edict by an Islamic regime, which is compulsory in those countries, will likely be approached more in the sense of condeming those laws and viewing those regimes as outcasts (which I support) rather than appeasing them &mdash;beyond the aforementioned respect accorded to ''secular'' theists, agnostists and atheists as per the ascetic-to-hedonism continuum. And while ''genuine'' wikipedians will be polite and careful to explain themsleves with utomost precision and all due moderation (those wikipedians are a dying breed, though, it seems), the rational itself, or at least the principle behind the stance, will remain the same (even from Islamophobes who themsleves invariably suffer from other acute forms of chuavinism just as the Islamists do). I am, of course, not suggesting by any of that that you, Mostafa bakry, are an Islamist (meaning, an Islamic fundamentalist), a proponent of Islamic regimes and compulsory laws, and so on, I merely undertook this depiction on account of its overall clarity, dialectically. Clarity which I hope did not get lost in the verbosity. Thanks for reading. Regards, ] 14:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
			====Gerda loves subsections!====
	== Thanks ==
			: Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my to the Hebrew Misplaced Pages. --] (]) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			: I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --] (]) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::Are you referring to ], because that is one scary dragon! ] 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::: yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --] (]) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::Haha! All roads lead to ], it seems.{{=P}} Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! ] 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::: "making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --] (]) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! ] 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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			::::::: Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".
			::::::: I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on ] as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --] (]) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::Ooh, that is some lovley '''<span style="color:green">greenery</span>'''. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of ] 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::: Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Misplaced Pages? --] (]) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::: Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss ], terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare ] and ]. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --] (]) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::{{Done}}. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. ''*Sending positive vibes*'' ] 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::Haha! Dangerous terrain (), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) ] 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (). Anyway, pinged you to ]. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. ] 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::: did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --] (]) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::See the trouble you get me into? Now to ''ameliorate!'' ] 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::: going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --] (]) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::::Obligatory spam! ] 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::::: refreshed: for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --] (]) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::::::Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! ] 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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			::::::::::::::::::: "no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --] (]) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::::::::Thanks, I like that a lot! ] 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::::::::::::::::: Sadly: more work for you, ]. --] (]) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
			Guess what, <s>] and</s> ] make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like ] - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). ] ;) --] (]) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
	Thank you for your support of my RfA; I appreciate your confidence. Best wishes for a happy new year, ] <sup>]</sup> 13:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
	:My pleasure. Same to you. Best, ] 14:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)		:I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. ] 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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			... that ''Universalkünstler''<br /> ''']'''<br /> created paintings in ],<br /> songs in ],<br /> stage sets for the ],<br /> and house facades in Austria and Israel?
	==Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not==
	As another user has also tried to shorten '''Misplaced Pages is not censored for the protection of minors''' to '''Misplaced Pages is not censored''', I have started a section on the ] to discuss the proposed change. As you seem to know the history of the section heading, I thought I would alert you to it. -- '''<font color="navy">]</font><sup><font color="green">(])</font></font></sup>''' 20:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:Yeah, that was me: I realise now it should probably stay if only because of the quirks of US and US state "obscenity" laws, even though it does refer to that it's not censored for anyone, not just "minors" --''] <sup>'''<span style="color:#800080">(</span>'''] ¦ ]'''<span style="color:#800080">)</span>'''</sup>'' 21:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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			:: One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, {{diff|User talk:Voceditenore|863729003|863687257|she said}}: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --] (]) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::''Love'' the artwork of ] — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. ] 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::: No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with ] following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --] (]) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. ] should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per ], ] allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding ] to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a ], ''at best'' — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (). ] 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::: There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that ]. - I ''love'' your translations. We should have more ''us''. --] (]) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also ]'s. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). ] 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::: For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --] (]) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
			==== Play Bach ====
			How do you like ? --] (]) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			Enjoy the music, and make ] last. --] (]) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
	::Thanks for the notice, Dalbury; I will try to review and comment on that page soon. Selina, US and US state obscenity laws, especially those of the ], are one factor. But a borader issue is the epistemological ambiguity; as in, not censored in terms of what (I ''censor'' Holocaust revisionism presented on par with mainstream Holocaust historiography all the time, for example). While I agree that the censored against minors criteria is limited, I am nevertheless of the opinion that a more qualified title(s) is needed to avoid confusion in that sense, as well as curtail potential abuse via wiki and wordlawyering. Hope that makes sense. Regards to you both, ] 09:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
			: I always do, Gerda! Yours always, ] 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
	== Healing Misplaced Pages ==
			:: Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --] (]) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::Not usually a fan of ], but here's ] that really did music-it-up! ] 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::: Agree about Johann Ernst! ] never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the ? --] (]) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. ] 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::: I agree, but who is "he"? --] (]) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			::::::: Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! ] 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::: Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --] (]) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::A riddle — noo! There better not be a ''math and science'' test at the end of this! ] 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::: test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to ]. - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --] (]) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::Hoping for a ''']'''. That would be about right. ] 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::: An unblock would do. --] (]) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. ] 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::: Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins ] - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --] (]) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::::Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. ] 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::::: "at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told ], feel like Cassandre) --] (]) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			:::::::::::::::::And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. ] 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
			{{od}} ] when you have time - what happened? --] (]) 07:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
			==An edit request by Narky Blert==
	I wonder if there is a way to heal the issues and differences that DCV's arbitration has brought to the foreground? In some ways, this entire affair has been bad for racial relations here at Misplaced Pages. Those who don't like how DCV acts have said that their actions are solely in response to DCV not being "nice" (so to speak). Those who don't like what has happened to DCV (like me) see the affair as being driven by racism and bigotry. The funny thing is that there is overlap between the two sides. A number of those pushing to sanction DCV admit that some of actions against her have been wrong and haven't helped racial issues here (and that some of the users pushing the issue against her are doing so for possibly racist reasons). Almost all of us opposed to the actions against DCV admit that she is abrasive and has violated Misplaced Pages guidelines and should be more civil in her discussions here. What we see, though, is a double-standard at work, with users appearing to gang up against non-minority editors like DCV for being less than civil but not doing the same to white editors. If this subject interest you, I'd encourage you to post you thoughts ].--] 21:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
			I have just set up an alternative account, {{u|Narky Blert (alt)}}, so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, {{u|Narky Blert}}. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)
	:I agree strongly with your sentiments; I will try to review and comment on that page soon. Regards, ] 09:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
			To comply with ], I want to edit ] to add:
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	Hello, I have made a compromise proposal at ]. Regards ] 23:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:Thanks for the notice; I will try to review and comment on it soon. Regards, ] 09:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
			at the top, and
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			at the bottom. However, as a newly-registered user, I cannot. Could I ask you to do this for me?
			As a token of good faith, I offer you "]" - , which strikes me as right up your street. ] (]) 15:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
	== Edit Conflict at ] ==
	I accidently reverted some of your (legitimate) edits when trying to revert vandalism at ] -- sorry! ] 20:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
	:I know, it's perfectly fine. :) While you were writing this note, I wrote one on your talk page ]. Sorta an edit conflict, too! Best, ] 20:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. ] 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
	== My ] ==
			::Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... ] (]) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
			:::But you made it, that's the most important thing! '''''' {{smiley}} ] 17:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
			== Prayer for Ukraine ==
	Hey man, thanks for voting in my RfA, I got it! :) If you need anything, just give me a ]. PS. I hope I'm right to put this above rather than below the images ;) - ] 00:41, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:My pleasure; will do. Best, ] 03:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
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	It probably will, given the kind of discourse that has been rendered acceptable on Wikpedia following the ] AfC debacle, which voted away NPOV on pages dealing with political figures disliked in the United States. The "list of dictators" article directly inspired the movement to classify Castro as a dictator without attribution in his article. The U.S. perception of the Cuban Revolutions will inevitably dominate Misplaced Pages articles. Still, Comandante is not an articulate counterweight to other POVs. He rarely, if ever, uses the talk pages; and he seems to go out of his way to make provocative edits. ] 03:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			I took a pic in 2009 that was yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English ]. - "Our" next psalm is ], last week's, yesterday we had ] but that - with the guardian angels is already covered, and I added compositions today. --] (]) 11:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
	:I have repeated the same ] source so many times, to so many people, noted it on the article propper, et cetera, etc., to no avail. Eventually, I just gave up and let TDC et al. and Comandante battle it out. Point is, there are more of them than him, or me, or you. ] 03:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Wow, did you take that picture with a Nokia flip phone or something? I can count the pixels! (No ] jokes, please! But yes ].) BTW, are you at all familiar with the teachings of ]? ] 11:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
	:I suppose that I going to be regarded as further to the 'left' than most Misplaced Pages editors. Ironically, they have little idea that throughout much of Latin America I would probably be pigeonholed on the 'center' or 'center-right.' Similarly, for example, if Fernando Henrique Cardoso started to edit the English Misplaced Pages's articles on Marxism, many editors here would undoubtably characterize him as a 'far left' and 'pro-Communist,' though he is now almost universally regarded as a neoliberal in Brazil. Still, editors familiar with other world views have no choice but to accept the fact that the English Wikipeidia is as deeply anchored in the cultural Anglosphere as any website. The WHO source is probably never going to be palatable ideologically in the Castro article here on en.wikipedia. Still, you do have some room to maneuver in shaping the content of articles on this topic, despite the inevitable political climate in a website dominated by users from the United States. It is an improvement, after all, if an article goes from disseminating disinformation to being at worst uninformative. In other words, if you cannot add verifiable claims because of the political reaction, you can at least try to remove the unverifiable claims of other users. ] 06:18, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			:: I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Misplaced Pages. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --] (]) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::See ]. Last bulletpoint: {{tq|He emphasized importance of music for spiritual development and religious practice}}. His was probably the most philosophically sophisticated of the ], now known as the ]. Their ] (annual pilgrimage to ], Ukraine) is a pretty big deal in both Israel and Ukraine. ] 11:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::: Sounds interesting, but was too busy yesterday. IWD today, so I showing two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --] (]) 07:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::Good stuff. Happy International Women's Day! {{smiley}} ] 18:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::: Thank you! Wrote the translation of ] to German, and began ], for the occasion. Sang ] in rehearsal. --] (]) 21:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
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	::Very little room to maneuver; free, well-sourced speech so long as it's brief and inconsequential. ] 06:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:::Regrettably. Still, brief and inconsequential content is preferable to overt disinformation. ] 06:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
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	::::Perhaps. We'll see how long I can keep it up. Not that I'm doing much, to begin with. ] 06:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
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			I listened to the charity concert (on radio, it was soon sold out), and created the articles of the composer and the soprano. Alto to follow today. --] (]) 06:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
			Do you think you could provide ] (and then 14)? --] (]) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
	er...me again. What is the WHO source (yes I followed the link, I presume you mean a specific report somewhere)? There are obviously plenty of options from ] as well. ]<sub>(])</sub> 03:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Nice. It's been a while since my last concert. {{frown}} Those Psalms look dunzo'd. ] 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
	:Hi, welcome! Please refer to ] (archive 6). ] 04:02, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			::How to listen? ] 05:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
	:Actually, you better start with my comment (noting the WHO source) @] (my comment is 2nd). ] 04:09, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			::: To that concert? I don't know, there was a lot of recording going on, but I don't know if for the public. - To ]? - see article. To the Frankfurt concert? - ]! --] (]) 08:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
			::: sorry about not having looked "down" enough for the psalms - yesterday was 27, also "dun". --] (]) 08:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::Dun'''ZO!''' Yeah, the latest (I'm caught up with the rest), too badzo. ] 16:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::: , more music and today's sunset no cow--] (]) 20:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::::Nice sunset, still, though! BTW, we've moved past cows. We're doing now. Catch up with the lore! ] 04:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::::: : the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --] (]) 20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::::::Happy BachDay! {{awesome}} Wow, ] looks like an intergalactic spaceship, with pillars. ] 22:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::::::: the place where ] performed first --] (]) 22:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::::::::Very cool. It also looks like a spaceship ] but with un-rounded corners. What a twist! ] 22:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
			The Prayer is + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --] (]) 20:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
	See them. Not convinced, but need to look further (sleep required). In particular I wonder about the reliablity of WHO numbers when they are probably reported by the government. The argument is more convincing on the face of it than numbers provided on voter turnout however, where editors espouse high voter turnout shows better democracy, ignoring that the opposite is actually true. ]<sub>(])</sub> 04:31, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Well done! That deserves flowers (of peace (against all odds)). ] 12:48, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
			:: today for illumination --] (]) 15:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::Very nice, can't go wrong with the classics (classics). for yesterday's exaltation (today). ] 16:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::: thank you ;) - back to ], it looked done but looking closer, I don't get why Hebrew is shorter, and has a different beginning, and the explanation is that it's not the complete but some sort of difference. Can you check that please? - Prayer for Ukraine: I heard it as "encore" after a live opera performance from Staatsoper Hannover, sung and played with heart by the complete ensemble. --] (]) 22:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::: , don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of ], and ] - ]! --] (]) 19:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::{{like}}. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. ] 14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::: thank you, , heard on 11 March --] (]) 16:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::: (unless you already do) please help watching the TFA ] because the author is not active --] (]) 08:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. ] 12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::: Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --] (]) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::::Cool. Also, I love train conductors, too! RE: Watchlist, see: ] (btw, I've long surpassed 100K for some reason). ] 13:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::::: now that's so funny: when I was about to pass 55.555 I decided that this was nonsense and began to reduce one by one, having reached 42k+ - this conductor leads an orchestra, but my grandfather was a train conductor --] (]) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::::: Could you please do me a favour regarding ]: do the Hebrew in the normal fashion. What's there is a subset, has no verse numbers, - tricky. --] (]) 13:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::::::Double cool! Also, I definitely agree with you: train, orchestra conductors — basically the same thing, interchangeable. ] 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::::::What, never! ] 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			::::::::::::Okay, I did ] 13:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
			== Thanks re Myanmar ==
			Hi El C,
	:In other words, the WHO ], ''again''. I see no conclusive reason to doubt their findings. ] 04:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			I know it was a while ago but I want to thank you for your patience with me on the Myanmar articles. I have a tendency to get flustered when coming under attack, so I made some mistakes when that happened with some new editors who happened to be from Myanmar. I have a lot of sympathy for their situation, though. I edit in that area because it's one of the most backwards regimes in the world but that gets very little attention. Anyway, thanks and happy holidays. ] (]) 18:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
	:* Yes. The "could" be fooled, but I have no evidence of that, having done no research on it. :) I'm an eternal sceptic and believe "trust but verify". ]<sub>(])</sub> 14:58, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Sorry for the belated reply, ], and thank you for your kind words, it means a lot. Happy hollidays to you, too! {{smiley}} ] 17:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
			::I'm currently watching the top gear special in Myanmar. Happy Holidays El_C! ] (]) 17:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
			:::Happy Holidays to you, as well, my friend! {{smiley}} ] 17:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
			::Hi I am back with a new name! I'm planning on focusing my work going forward more on content creation. I regret being at times insensitive in my approach to other editors in the Myanmar area, so I just wanted to ask, if you happen to notice me editing in a less-than-collaborative way, could you please give me a nudge in the right direction, even if it doesn't rise to anything actionable? I would greatly appreciate it. I will go through the normal channels from now on if there is something that I believe needs admin attention. ] (]) 18:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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	You did it; even though you suck at the internet! Congrats! ] 11:ɸ5, 7 January 2006 (UTC		:Many thanks, ], merry Christmas and happy new year to you too! 🎅 ] 08:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
	=== My RfA ===		== ] ==
			Thank you for the page protection, could you please restore the infobox image, the IP changed it right before you set the protection. Thank you, - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 16:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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			:And you reverted 30 minutes prior to that. That's just the luck of the draw. ] 17:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			::Thanx for supporting an editwaring IP. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 17:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			:::As opposed to an edit warring veteran editor? It takes two to edit war, and you do not get supremacy over an IP editor by virtue of being a veteran editor. So you can take your ] complaint and sarcasm elsewhere. ] 17:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			::::I'm done here, you prob now. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 17:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			:::::Works for me, even though I don't understand what is meant by {{tq|you prob now}} (what is a "prob"?). ] 17:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			::::::I have tried to discuss this issue on the talk page, but I am met only with vague responses and rationalizations about why an obscure 1975 photo is somehow more appropriate. Instead user FlightTime seems to be giving off the feeling that he is superior and because "they said so" therefore the old photo must be sealed for eternity.
			::::::Are we serving the public on Misplaced Pages or our own interests? What would actually be more recognizable for the general public, a more recent photo of Mr. Lear (of which there are many, again just look at google image results), or a cropped and not easily identifiable one that some users are stubbornly insisting be used? ] (]) 18:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			:::::::I know you tried, IP. If you end up at an impasse on the talk page, you could always try seeking a ] or even a more substantive ]. HTH. ] 18:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			::::::::Thank you for your considerate responses. ] (]) 19:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			::::::::What would be the process for Third Opinion or Request for Comment should it come to that? ] (]) 19:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
			:::::::::I already linked it. ] 19:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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			Hi. The EEA page keeps attracting some unwanted attention for the last month or so. I see that you've protected the page once already. Would it be possible to do it again? ] (]) 12:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
	|Hi,<br> I just want to say thanks for supporting me on ]! It passed by a 58/3/0 margin, so I am now an administrator. If you need me to help you out, or you find that I'm doing anything wrong, please don't hesitate to ]. --] (]) 19:53, 6 January 2006 (UTC)</div>
			:] ''']'''&#32;for a period of '''6 months''', after which the page will be automatically unprotected.<!-- Template:RFPP#semi --> ] 16:33, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
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			== Protection ] ==
	My pleasure; in all due lameness, please look into getting a user name &mdash; both you and AE! ] 11:08, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
			Looks like you put an extended autoconfirmed protection at ] on the ground that it's related to the Arab-Israeli conflict because there was a minor edit war over whether to include the minor point that the role of ] in the Congressional hearing on Anti-semitism was originally given to ]. I don't follow the logic.
	===And my RfA, too! Thanky Thanky to El_C!===
			The edit war had nothing to do with Anti-semitism per se, and absolutely nothing to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict. It should be noted that ] is not protected at all. Please consider this a request to unprotect the article. ] (]) 17:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
	Oh, God, every time I'm in your user space, with the pictures of Che and now the revolutionary poet in mid-oratory, my head starts to spin and I'm sure I'll pass out...but I wont let that stop me from thanking you for your very kind support of my RfA! I'm now an admin, and if there is any way at all that I can be of service, or if there is anything I do that you have questions or concerns about, please let me know! Meanwhile, your faux-wikiStalinist userbox has spread like a meme...it's on numerous userpages! Thanks again for the laughathon that it produced the first time I saw it amidst all the chaos over l'affaire userboxen! ] 15:45, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
			:], just because you fail to identify a connection does not make it ''absolutely'' this or that; nor am I interested in ] whataboutism. That said, I'm not inherently opposed to unprotecting in a month or so, so feel free to remind me at that time. ] 17:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
	:I'm regreting it already! Need more revolutionary symbols to finish the job, I reckon.... Erm, I mean, hope to have some drinks (& tuna) in a reeducation camp near you some day, Babajobu! <sup>P.S.</sup> that userboxen rebelion was very, ''very'' stupid, but I'll forgive you, I guess... This time! ] 17:4ʒ, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
			== Which Indonesia-related articles that are extended protected? ==
	== Obsessionality ==
			Are there any Indonesia related articles on Misplaced Pages that are extended-protected? ] (]) 01:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
	Definitely exists. Used by psychiatrists a lot. I look forward to seeing a proliferation of it, even an obsessionality about it, in your future posts. ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 21:14, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
	: Will do! Obsessionatively yours!, ] 21:19, 7 January 2006 (UTC)		:I'm not sure, ]. ] 12:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			== 2023–24 Canadian network television schedule ==
	::Note for you on ]. About posting above the pictures: it means we can't use the tab at the top of your page, which always posts at the end. I think that's why you keep finding posts there. It's easier for lazy people, of which I am one. ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 01:10, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Okay, so how do I fix that without being an idiot (or less of an idiot, at least) ? I command you! ] 14:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
	== Well hello there! ==
			Can I get a temporary protection for ] like was done with ]? As the vandalism by 81.25.78.185 is still continuing. ] (]) 22:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
	It's been some while, has it not?
			:Sorry, ], I don't have time to review this at present, so please feel free direct your request to ]. ] 12:19, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			== Request for creation-unprotection for the ']' article ==
	What's been going on, El_C? How've you been? Heard you left for a brief spell before being lured back by a certain someone (King Henry in the snow before ], maybe?). Drop me a line, we'll talk. ] 21:51, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
			Can you please unprotect the ']' article (with a lowercase 'i') from creation so I can create a redirect for it to the ']' article (with an uppercase 'I')? ] (]) 03:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
	:Wally! It has been too long &mdash; good to have you back! I've been alight, nothing too new or exciting to report (though perhaps my alterfeline, ], would wish to expand). I've taken a few breaks here and there, but haven't actually left. Currently engaged in providing updates and attempting to restore some sanity at ]. Looking forward to having you around! Best regards, ] 21:59, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
			:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. Downgraded to ] from ]. ] 12:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			== Restore indefinite semi ==
	==F**k==
	Hola Jefe! I was defending this place Vs ''market place terminology'' but found this place as being a ''jungle''. Please, I need your advice and comment in this situation: ] -- ''] 23:33, 7 January 2006 (UTC)'' <small>]</small>
	:Now he finds out; cute. :) Anyway, I'll send him over. ] 23:3ξ, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
			Hi, El_C, greetings of the new year! Can you please restore indef-semi at ]? Thanks, ] (]) 12:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
	::lol, Kitty rocks.. I think you owe El C drug stho. :) --''] <sup>'''<span style="color:#800080">(</span>'''] ¦ ]'''<span style="color:#800080">)</span>'''</sup>'' 23:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
			:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. And thanks, same to you. ] 12:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			== 2024 ==
	:::As the old saying goes, flattery will get you everywhere! Here's a poem I wrote whilst licking:
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			'''] ] ]'''
	:::''tuna is good, catnip is great; my owner is an idiot''. /bows ] 00:0ʈ, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::Have you reached any ''comment'', guys? - ''] 01:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)'' <small>]</small>
	:::::Sorry, I'm not entirely clear what is meant by that. ] 01:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::::El C! I thought you kept the Kitty as your '']''! I was not aware of the '']'' you got (not a kitten). I was just asking '']'' about their opinion. Cheers -- ''] 01:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)'' <small>]</small>
	:::::::Sorry, he's napping. He's a guardian who sleeps 16 hrs a day! ] 01:45, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::::::Jefe! I fear the kitten would turn out to belong to ] instead of ]. Cheers -- ''] 02:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC)'' <small>]</small>
	:::::::::Let's hope! What? ] 02:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::::::::Lol! I'm confused myself now! Ok, let's hope ] is wrong! No, I support him! But well, He was just like us. Cheers -- ''] 02:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)'' <small>]</small>
	:::::::::::Wow. Free drugs, again! ] 02:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::::::::::I told ya! Ya told meah! ;) Hey, hey! ]. -- <small>]</small>
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	== High school ==
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			Same location pictured as 2019. -- ] (]) 20:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
			:Thanks, all the best for the coming year. ] 15:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
			:: Thank you! - The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new ] was introduced, - my ]. --] (]) 21:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
			:: New pics, those cows again - click Year and go to bottom. --] (]) 23:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
			:: I have a DYK, but ] would be different, about ], - . --] (]) 11:04, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
			:: On the Main page: ] who ] --] (]) 19:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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			:: I remember ] on ], and the performance of ], the article in which a reviewer found nothing interesting. Yesterday: ]. On vacation, - check places. --] (]) 20:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::Nicely done! Thanks for the updates. Hope you enjoy your vacation, and do I even need to say, take lot's of pics? {{smiley}} ] 20:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::: Thank you, enjoying, taking tons of pictured, 23 chosen for 23 Jan, 6 uploaded, too tired for more - on my talk you see that it's the birthday of Mozart and our conductor ;) --] (]) 23:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::: Today ], with related music and a few new vacation pics --] (]) 19:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
			== Could you please have a look into this? ==
	Please don't stalk me. That's creapy.--] 01:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Who are you? ] 01:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
	No seriously, let's just forget about it alright? I'm sorry for whatever comment I made. Please, no games. Just chill alright?--] 01:10, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
	:What are you talking about? You were nothing but a fleeting memory until now, really. ] 01:15, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
			Hi @]
	== Foundation Wiki ==
			A user yesterday has made personal attacks against me aggressively, I brought the issue to the notice of administrators, one user happened to advice the user to strike out their personal comments on me, they still haven't done that. If possible, could you please look into this issue? -Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Aggressive attacks for starting a discussion on an article's talk page | Removal of template
	Noticed your changes to your userpage, and I'm wondering how you got an account on the Foundation Wiki...Feel free to leave a note on my Meta talk or email if you don't want the secret getting out here. ;-) -- ] · ] 08:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
			Thank you :) ] (]) 09:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
	does your kitten accept bribes for cat espionage (~wants an account too!~) ? --''] <sup>'''<span style="color:#800080">(</span>'''] ¦ ]'''<span style="color:#800080">)</span>'''</sup>'' 10:48, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
			:], it looks like another admin is already attending to it, so I'm not sure what there is for me to do right now... ] 09:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
	:Heh, Kitty only espionigezeses in the interest of the revolution. :) But everything is open to ], and it's far from as controversial as it may sound. ;) Anyway, I thought I might as well make myself accessible. But I should stress that I did not approach it as secretive or anything, teehee; such has not been my experience. Essentially, I saw some errors in Hebrew on the foundation fundraising thingy, wanted to edit it, got directed to the meta requesty page, created an account on meta where I can also help with tranlsations, too (I had one, but I forgot my password, much like with Kitty's account; I've since learned my lesson), placed a request copying the format, and was approved by ] who I've known for a long while now (he's one of the good guys; and a good translator, too). Anyway, let's say Danny translates this or that but he has to leave town for a few days, and the thing is only 3/4 finished and hasn't been proofread, now he has one more person he can seek direct assistance from (without account-holding intermediaries, and so on). Sorry to report it isn't more sensational than that! :D ] 14:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
			::Ok @]
			::I wasn't aware that another admin is attending it.
			::Thank you for your quick response :) ] (]) 09:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::Sure np, ]. Yeah, you ] to him 3 minutes before posting here. ] 09:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
	== Justforasecond ==		== Hey, long time no chat! ==
			Hi ]! Do you know what's up with ] as of late? Outside of his arrest in 2022, I haven't heard anything... :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 06:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
	Okay. ] 02:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Alright. :) ] 02:20, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Hey. No, no idea. Maybe he's finally staying outta trouble (unlikely). Good to see you, though. Don't be a stranger! ] 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
	== Missing the point ==
			== Follow up on disruptive LTA ==
			A while back I made this post on ANI regarding a long term disruptive user-.
	Of course my comments were not aimed at getting her to stay- she's already decided to leave! Isn't the next best thing to simply end the conflict? I find it a bit curious that she's apparently not interested in either ending the conflict, ''or'' in working on the encyclopedia. I wonder what that leaves? ] ] 00:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Her arbitration case. ] 00:08, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			Unfortunately they're back at it again with their trolling and nonsense with two different ranges- and this . Look at some of his most recent edits- + + . I was hoping these two ranges could also be blocked for persistent vandalism. ] (]) 21:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
	== hehe ==
			:Hi. I take it this was resolved at ANI...? ] 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
			::Hey, unfortunately the user is back again with a different range. I filed a report at ANI but if you could look into it that would be great-. ] (]) 16:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::], sorry, what is the link? ] 22:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
			==FYI==
	heehee. you're funny, mr. el c :) -] 03:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			Hello, El C,
			Regarding ], just a reminder that when you draftify an article from main space to Draft space, the remaining redirect needs to be deleted as a CSD R2. You can either delete it yourself or tag it for speedy deletion and an admin who patrols CSD categories can take care of it.
	:Don't underestimate the pathos, Mister Justforasecond. ] 03:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			Thanks and have an awesome weekend! It's going to be frigid here in the Northwest U.S.. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 02:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
	== ] departure ==
			:Sorry, I forgot. But will do, thanks for the reminder. Hope you have a great weekend, too, Liz. Keep warm! {{emoji|2744}} {{emoji|26C4}} ] 03:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
	] -- ] 05:52, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			== Block of ASmallMapleLeaf ==
	:What the...?! Shameful provocation. ] 13:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			I believe this is quite an inappropriate block since blocks are preventative and not punitive. With the specific incivility and personal attacks aside, I don't see a reason for why they would continue to be disruptive outside that specific instance. I would have agreed more if a temporary block was issued at that time instead. What do you think? <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x]</span>→∞ (]) 05:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
	==Turin==
			:Also, on the ''7th edit crux'' you mentioned at their talk page, I think getting involved in administrative noticeboards while the account is new isn't an issue in and of itself. Well, they aren't new to our ]s, but I don't see that as a reason to believe that they would cause further disruption. Though I don't see it as necessary, a namespace block from WP/WT instead of a full indef would have been less BITE-y. <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x]</span>→∞ (]) 05:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
	El C, can you please explain me why you have reverted my edits in the article Turin. As long as there is a Romanian version of the website, why should it not be listed. I'm not curious about your thoughts but Misplaced Pages is NPOV, isn't it? So, spare me. You can find the romanian version . --]
	:That the website isn't in English, so our readership here on ] are unlikely to find much use for it (as opposed to readers on the ]). ] 14:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			::I disagree. I think that being as abrasive (as presented in the extensive evidence) by seemingly starting an aggressive anti-UNBLOCKABLES mission in one's 7th edit ''is'' what's inappropriate. And I continue to challenge that, absent an explanation, it is suspect. But feel free to take to the matter a wider forum. ] 06:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
	Oh, I see. But why do you remove Romanian. I see Spanish, French listed there. I understand you removed the external link (that was just as a proof) but why also the language? I explained all in the discussion page. :) --]
			:::As well, I believe that your position—presenting this user in the same breath as both new (i.e. {{tq|BITE-y}}) and an experienced user (i.e. {{tq|aren't new to our ]s}})—is both inconsistent and sets a bad standard. About the conduct and direction from new-not-new users. ] 06:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
	:I only remove what I am immediately privy to; feel free to remove any other non-English links. ] 16:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			::::A little bit inconsistent, I would agree, but knowing how to cite policies and guidelines doesn't mean they are not a new user. From the comments they have made it doesn't appear to me that they have the same style of argument experienced users make. Perhaps they picked up ''some'' of the experienced-isque elements from reading internal discussions and policy pages, but they still appear new to me. <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x]</span>→∞ (]) 06:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
			::::I've started a discussion at ] (hopefully that venue isn't dead) <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x]</span>→∞ (]) 06:43, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Copy that. ] 06:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
			::::::They've now asked to be unblocked on their talk page. What are your thoughts on it? <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x]</span>→∞ (]) 03:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
	== Paris Page ==		== January 2024 ==
			] This is your '''only warning'''; if you constructively do admin tasks again, like you did at ], '''you may be given a ] without further warning.''' <!-- Template:Uw-constructive4im --> ] (]) 14:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
	Hey, thanks for fixing the vandlism on the Paris page - and good to see you around. As you may well have seen things are still far from sparkly there, but (on your advice) leaving that aside, I have started a portal, project and a few articles. The ] will be the most relaxing and fun of the lot. In short, I'm getting used to things.
			:''].'' ] 09:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
			== Overhumility ==
	Thanks, and Take care!
	] 15:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)		People whose English is inelegant don't use the word "inelegant". &#8213;]&nbsp;] 22:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
			:'''''''''' ] 22:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
			::Homer Simpson: one of history's great philosophers. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 23:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
			== Re: ] ==
	:Glad to hear it, Josef! Good to see you still at it and making good progress. Don't hesitate to drop by to say hi from time to time. :) Best, ] 15:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			The two intermediate IP edits from 194.125.77.219 should probably be revdel'd as well, because they currently allow some of the problematic changes to be seen. <span style="color:Purple">''' - '''</span>]<span style="color:Purple">'''. '''</span><sub>]</sub> 05:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
	== Thanks ==
			:Got it. Thanks ]. ] 05:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
			== Revert Reason ==
	Thanks for your greeting, and the same to you. I'm not sure that I'm glad to be back, exactly, but if I didn't take the plunge now, I'd probably have stayed away permanently. --] (]) 17:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	:I hear that. This place definitely ain't getting less strange, to say the least. Regardless, it will be good having you around. Best, ] 17:44, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			Hi, El_C,
	== Confusion ==
			Just wanted to clear it up, the reason I reverted here was not because it wasn't an inline citation, it was because of ] where an RfC came to the consensus that SimpleFlying is not a reliable source and should not be used in articles. Just wanted to clear that up.
	Success at last. -] 19:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	:I am easily confused, mind you... GJ, though! ] 19:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			Thanks! ] (]) 05:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
	== ] vandals ==
			:This was already ] by the time you've written the above, VenFlyer98. Can we move on? ] 17:51, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
	Would you also consider protecting ] using <nowiki>{{sprotected}}</nowiki>? - ] 19:45, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			::I wasn’t trying to start anything again, I was literally just explaining myself since you initially responded that the source was good and wanted to make sure my reasoning was understood. Was just explaining myself, I already moved on…
	:I've semiprotected it. --] 19:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
	::Thank you! :) - ] 20:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)		::Have a good one. ] (]) 19:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
			:::You started by explaining to the IP how to cite inline, so I thought that meant ''you'' viewed their source as good. Otherwise why would you open with that and not with: 'sorry, it's a bad source, but if you have a good one, you do is this way'? So, yeah, I missed the second part, ''WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING'', which probably read like gibberish to me late last night. {{np|Coastie43}}'s quoting it in full (with words), ''Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#SimpleFlying'' — that by contrast was immediately readable to me. Anyway, this entire conversation just seems so needless. But no biggie. See ya. ] 20:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
	:::And I didn't even do anything! ;) ] 02:55, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
	== Link removal ==		== January 2024 ==
	What is external links for? To the casual user to read? Or something related to the subject, most notably governamental websites, etc? One was Guinea's news agency. Information for the article should be in the article and not in the external links that can be in any language with the proper warning that it is in another language, that occurs in every wikipedia, even in EN. So I'll add the links again, because those in the article present an English perspective (often with lack of knowledge) and unrelated to the country. The given links are websites made by nationals, which I think it would be more interresting to the interested reader. There are language schools everywhere where one can learn another language. Somebody who is interested in the country, may already speak the language. People use wikipedia very differently from the use you give to it. -] 20:04, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
			] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:ANI-notice--> ] (]) 19:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
	:Hi Pedro. The guideline is at ] (] is in the works). The problem I have is that our casual (meaning, average) reader is not going to be able to read Portuguese. And those who do, are likely to check out the article on the ]. I can appreciate that there is a dire shortage of coverage on ], so I might be willing to reconsider what I'm otherwise more strict on (let's say, versus ]). Still, I would like to hear your thoughts on my rational regarding non-English links. Best, ] 02:55, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
			:{{re|SwiftFan2024}} left a ] there, though that report was already closed. But you could have asked me about it at any time, and I'd have explained why semi was chosen over pc (or any other protection level). Oh well. Well, now you know. ] 04:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
	==RFA Campaigning==		== February music ==
			{{User QAIbox
	Since campaigning for or against RFA's is frowned upon, I'd say you acted correctly. It ''is'' spamming when a person doesn't even bother to see if the people have voted or not (Dunc, for example, had already voted). ] 07:46, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:Thanks, I'm relieved to find you feel I acted correctly. Regards, ] 07:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
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	:: I did check, then as I stated in my Talk page I misread part of the list. And there is no "El C" who voted in the new RFA, so I was at that point on the correct list. (] 08:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC))
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	:::That is correct, I'm not going to participate in RfAs in the foreseeable future. Regards, ] 08:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
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			My ] is about ] celebrating his birthday. -- ] (]) 22:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
			Today I am happy about ] on ] (at least for the first hours), after ]. --] (]) 15:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
	== Upsetting me ==
			] to ]. --] (]) 21:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
	You didn't upset me. I understand what you were doing. I was simply asking you not to do it to my page any more. No hurt, no upset. ] 08:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Good, I'm glad. Will not do. Thanks for rearticulating that. Regards, ] 08:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)		:I applaud your efforts. Another legend gone. R.I.P. ] 21:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			:: Thank you. - I put some effort now into the article for ], marked ready last day ]. --] (]) 22:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
			:::Nice, yeah for sure. That page was already {{posted}}, though. TTYS. ] 04:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
			:::: Thanks for trying! - The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and ], a friend here. Listen to ] (an article where ] is pictured), (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --] (]) 16:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
			:::: Listen to if you like, - I ], and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I ]. --] (]) 10:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Will do, thanks for the recommend. I'm away for a bit, but hopefully will be back in a few weeks. Talk to you then. All the best, ] 16:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
			::::: more music and flowers on ] --] (]) 15:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
			== Turkey ==
	You seem to have reverted my talk page too. I only read it sometimes, and I appreciate people letting me know what is happening. You could have added to it rather than subtract somebody else's message. Please don't do it again. --] 13:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Certainly, I will refrain from editing your talk page in the future. Sorry, if I upset you. Regards, ] 08:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
			Прошу снизить уровень защиты страницы. ] (]) 17:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
	Refrain from reverting my talk page in future. ] 21:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
			== Ivan Katchanovski's deletion ==
	:Certainly, I will refrain from editing your talk page in the future. ] 08:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
			== Deletion review for ] ==
	== Help ==
			An editor has asked for ] of ]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.<!-- Template:DRV notice --> ]<sub>]</sub> 13:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			:You usually go straight to DRV without discussion, ]? That's a thing that you do? ] 18:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			::This is the first deletion review I've initiated in a long time (possibly ever). I didn't notice the instructions which are under the 15-item list of cases in which DRV should and shouldn't be used. Will definitely do this next time. Cheers! ]<sub>]</sub> 22:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			:::I see. Please note, though, that this is a general maxim (of ]) that goes beyond the realm of deletion discussions. And it's just common sense, because I could have made the arguments that the two participants have made in the DRV discussion (both endorse) right here, you could have responded, etc. But you never gave such discussion a chance. The reasoning is that I might have convinced you of my position, thus, you could have spared the extra work for the folks at DRV. HTH. ] 22:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
			== Spam-only accounts, cont'd ==
	Hey El C,
			Hi El C, a couple of days ago you blocked two spammer accounts that I ]. Well today they are back again under a new name, ']'. Could you have a look at it? Thanks in advance! —&nbsp;] ] 13:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
	Would you please be able to revert all of {{user|61.247.238.182}}'s edits? One of the worst cases of spamming I have ever seen. --] 02:47, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Done. Regards, ] 04:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)		:{{an3|b|indef}}. Lucky, you got me right as I'm out the door. TTYS. ] 13:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
	::Thanks. --] 05:42, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
			The edit summary of ]s latest 4 reverts might also need to be redacted. ] (]) 06:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
	:::It seems that he/she is still doing it. I've given them 1 final warning, but I can't block them because I'm not an admin. If they insert another spam link, I'll notify you. --] 08:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
			:Damn, I thought I got em all. {{frown}} ] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. Thank you! ] 06:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
			== Precious anniversary ==
	::::I know, I just reverted ]. Thanks, that saves me from doing that. ] 08:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
			{{User QAIbox/auto|years=Seven}}
			--] (]) 09:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
			== About your comment on ANI==
	:::::User added links to ] and ]. I gave him/her a final warning, and they did not follow up to it. I suggest that they be given a 24 hour block. --] 00:26, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
			I saw your response on ANI. I probably should have clarified, but when I said about bringing your block of Bobak to XRV, I meant '''you yourself bringing it there''' if '''you''' were concerned it would be against consensus (Which as of now it is ''not''). I am aware my suggestion could have come accross as 'anyone can/should bring it to XRV', which was ''not'' what I was attempting to state and definitely ''not'' attempting or encouraging others to do so.
	== McKhan ==
			I sincerely apologise. ] (]) 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
	You wouldn happen to be on IRC so we can discuss this would you? ]]</font> <sub>(]+])</sub> 07:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Sorry, no. I seem to have been blocked from there due to lameness. ] 07:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)		:Oh, I see. But no need to apologize, though I appreciate it. It's just a rather obscure venue that is used seldom and not many know about. Take care. ] 16:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
			:Also, in my pre-coffee state, I might have conflated you with {{np|A smart kitten}}, who was actively involved in that discussion (you were of course the user whose block was being reviewed there at the time) — shh, don't tell anyone! ] 16:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
	::It'd be possible to talk in a different channel, like the Esperanza one or something, still, surely. ]]</font> <sub>(]+])</sub> 07:40, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	:::Oh, okay. What's the channel? ] 07:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	::::I think we'll use for today. ]]</font> <sub>(]+])</sub> 07:46, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	:::::Okay, I'm there. ] 07:51, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
			== Apology for reverting good faith edits ==
	== DCV ==
	Thanks for injecting sanity (again). ] 14:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	:"Sanity", I've heard ''of'' it. ] 14:47, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	::The more I look, the more I am convinced that you are probably the ''only'' sane one in this place. ] 18:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
	:::♪ ''I'm all things, to all men, all of the women, all the children...'' ♫ <b><font color = red>Down with imperialism! Long live armed struggle! </font></b> ] 22:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
			@] You reverted my edits a while ago, and I did not notice until now. I thought that IP was subtly vandalizing, but I have now just realized that I misread the sentence multiple times and did not realize that IP was trying to fix a grammatical error. I apologize for the foolish edits I made and am sorry for the inconvenience.
	== anon user ip: 210.23.154.96 ==
			Thank you, ] (]) 00:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
	El C, please accept my apologies for adding that external link yesterday without discussing it first. I am new to Misplaced Pages. I thought the link would be good to add as it gives another view of Tantra. I certainly don't wish any bad feeling to exist towards that website due to my actions. (That spiritual school offers free courses on the web and in study centres and is a not-for-profit group.) Is it possible perhaps to include a paragraph in the article about the use of the so-called "white tantra" or "alchemy" in gnosticism? And the same again on the Alchemy article? Sorry again. :)
	Regards, David, 13/01/06.
	:Hi, David. No apology needed. I removed the link because it mostly consisted of a page hailing the benefits of eroticism and sexuality (no argument there) but with little explanation on how this relates to the subject matter, except in refering the reader elsewhere. By all means, feel free to add content to these articles, though I encourage you the employ the talk page first so as to get a feel for the ]. Regards, ] 10:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
	Thanks for your understanding El C. That webpage relates to the Tantra article in that "Alchemy" is a term meaning "Tantra" or in particular "White Tantra" in some mystical schools hence I added the link to both the alchemy article and the tantra article. The webpage I linked to is just a general introduction to that gnostic schools view of tantra.
	In light of your understanding can you remove where it shows my ip address is blocked on the history page only that it reflects badly on my ip in the history page. I shall not post anything on these two articles without consenus first. Kind Regards, David, 16/01/06.
	:It doesn't say your ip is blocked, nor is it, so don't worry about it (material is only removed from the history in the most extreme cases). Regards, ] 02:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
	== your message ==
			:Sure, {{u|ItsCheck}}, but please make sure you learn from this, by double and triple checking your edits, and by treating any given IP editor in ] until proven otherwise. Because obviously changing "married with two children" into "married ''to'' two children" in a ] is a very serious violation. Thanks for reaching out. ] 16:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
	hey El C, well I based the changes on the article on ] and ]. Since the name of the article is the name itself (and you can see, for example I did not change anything on ], my understanding is to start the article first with the actual name of the article, followed by the official name. I think at least for European countries this can be safely used, or for ] for example. The article talks about the country in general, of which the official name (reflecting the present form of government) is a part of, is my understanding at least. I hope you don't disagree with all the changes.... :-( ] 17:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
			::Of course. I thought it was the other way around, so that is why I did it. ] (]) 23:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
	:Do not despair. But as you can see, someone has already reverted in ]. I tend to agree. Why don't you submitt a proposal @ ]? Regards, ] 18:04, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
			== ]: Case opened ==
	==Robert I arbitration==
			Hello {{u|El C}},
	If you wish to make a statement at ], please do so. I have started working on it. ] 18:55, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Thanks, I appreciate the notice. ] 18:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
			You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at ]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at ]. '''Please add your evidence by March 20, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, ]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see ].
	== Investigations ==
			For the Arbitration Committee,<br>] (]) 20:03, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
	Does mean the first historic case to be undertaken by ]? And if it does, is the investigation not in danger of being thrown out for insufficient insufferability in the manner in which it was suggested? And can we watch?
			== Question ==
	And while I'm at it, is the Syrian Arab Republic a country, or merely a state, while Syria is a country? Or is me wondering about this merely the result of me having grown up in a country that didn't know whether it was a country or not (or possibly two countries) but was fairly sure that it was in a state?
			In regards to your response on my ] how would you recommend I go about initiating a discussion with an IP user who's IP is different every time they edit? ] (]) 17:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
	Yours, not very clearly, ] | ] 21:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
			:On the article talk page, which stays the same regardless. ] 17:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
	:That's right, I forgot about my stupid association! Finally, something productive for it's idiot president to do. In answer to your question, ] is a state (of...), though it may not be a ], possibly a ], therefore, much like , Syria is a ]. I hope this has been enlightening for you. Our beloved president sends you his best regards (''i.e.'' napping). Yours, ] 22:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
			::What I'm saying is doesn't it seem pointless to attempt to communicate with an individual who's sole purpose is to return to an account and revert my edit, each time from a different IP? Or perhaps it's a group of people since the IPs are in fact unique? ] (]) 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
			:::I don't know about any of that (not mentioned at the protection request), but what I do know is that the article talk page has not been meaningfully used by anyone since 2016. HTH. ] 18:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
			== Being Fired Upon Over Contributions ==
	== Clearing up misunderstanding ==
	In response to your , I thought I should clear up a misunderstanding. That was totally an accident -- I fell asleep on my touchpad and hit the block button with my nose. Turned out a diff from the "Misplaced Pages is communism" vandal was up on my screen at the time, and well... Anyway, I've been taking credit for that far too long, and I am glad to get it off of my chest. Thanks. ] 00:02, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Heh, I did the same thing with the same vandal, except my mouse was hovered over the ''unblock'' button. What a strange coincidence! ] 00:06, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
			Hi
	== RFC/KM ==
			I could really use your input at ANI: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents "Editor Lau737 "contributions."
	You commented on Kelly Martin's second RfC. it is up for archival. you may vote at ]. ]|] 03:49, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
	== Defending the Motherland (or whatnot) ==
			Best regards ] (]) 11:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
	<s>Comrade</s> Compatriot,
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	You might be interested in a deluge of one-setence stubs about Chinese prisons that mostly cannot be verified, coming from an editor banned on 4 wikis and a track record of making stuff up. See ] or the ]. Please? -- <font color="#FF0000">'''Миборовский'''</font> <sup>]|]|]|]|]|]!</sup> 06:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
			] Thanks for uploading ''']'''. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Misplaced Pages under a ]. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Misplaced Pages. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Misplaced Pages (see ]).
	:He says to tell you: "keep ''offending'' the Motherland, Hmib!" I'm not entirely am sure what that means, or confident as to his sanity... Regards, ] 14:50, 14 January 2°°6 (UTC)
			Note that any non-free images not used in any '''articles''' will be deleted after seven days, as described in ]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Di-orphaned fair use-notice --> --] (]) 17:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
	== RFA thanks ==
			==]==
	Thanks for supporting me in my RFA. --] 14:00, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
	:Sure. ] 02:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
	== ] ==
			]
	With great trepidation I have accepted another nomination for adminship. - ] 20:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
			::<big>See also: '''''], ]'''''</big>
	:See ]. ] 02:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
			:<small>A '''''' (circa 2002). ] 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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			:Longing for '''''' (circa 2008). ] 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
			:For when just plain '''''' are afoot. ] 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
	<font color="Red"><b>Why should poetry not be a slogan?
			:'''''' over simple things. ] 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)</small>
	<font color="Red"><b>Why should poetry not be
			<big><big>]</big></big>
	<font color="Red"><b>biased
			<small>
			:'''''' ] 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
			{{Collapse|1=
			(''Intro'')
			:Somehow I found myself here today
	<font color="Red"><b>when life is not at all itself
			:Awakened to these thoughts and feelings
			:Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming?
			----
			:A strange sort of spherical sensation
			:With an overwhelming sense of apprehension
			:An emptiness that thunders out
			:From beyond the mind's horizon
			----
			:So far beyond our reach
			:Where consciousness coalesces
			:Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds
			:The streaming runs of thought goes
			:'Round and 'round and 'round
			----
			:Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down
			:And the earth bows down in reverence
			:Lest it should be torn to pieces
			:And blown into oblivi-essence
			----
			:And all who live will run and hide
			:And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time
			:Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of
			:One's own mind
			----
			:But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge
			:Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind
			:You'll find that everyone is everyone
			:And everything is everything
			----
			(''Verse one'')
			:Open up
			:Your hearts and minds
			:'Cause I remember
			:Nothing
			----
			:One day now
			:It all falls down
			:But love must keep on
			:Loving
			----
			:So start the show
			:Here we go
			----
			(''Chorus'')
			:Dark to light
			:The day from night
			:A roll of a mountain
			:A rip in the sky
			----
			:Turning the dust to flesh
			:And ashes to breath
			:A pull of a muscle
			:A pin in the eye
			----
			:An initial spark
			:To get this heart of mine pumping
			:And another
			:To get these feet of mine running
			----
			:But sadly they've just taken me
			:To a place
			:Where all is devoid
			:Of your embrace
			----
			:So baby now we're falling
			:Baby now you're falling
			:Baby yeah, yeah
			:Baby now we're falling, baby yeah
			----
			:Tripping and tumbling
			:Flipping and fumbling
			:Flowing on the rivers of sadness
			:That have been forever rumbling
			----
			:But from dawn until now
			:Of all the paths that I could have gone down
			:Of all the valleys
			:That I could have been flowing through
			----
			:In spite of all the chaos
			:And all that has come between us
			:How is it I still find myself
			:Here with you
			----
			(''Outro'')
			:So somehow we find ourselves here today
			:A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming
			----
			:A strange sort of spherical sensation
			:An emptiness that thunders out
			:From beyond the mind's horizon
			----
			:And all of us, we run and hide
			:Do what we've done since the dawn of time
			----
			:Peering out through the beating rain
			:The pounding wind
			:Everyone is everyone
			:And everything is everything
			|2=Lyrics:}}
			:'''''' ] 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
			:'''''' ] 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
	<font color="Red"><b>For life's sake,
			:'''''' ] 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)</small>
	<font color="Red"><b>I expect a poem to be
			<big><big>Memories of ]</big></big>
	<font color="Red"><b>a slogan
			:<small>''''''
	<font color="Red"><b>a dagger
			:'''
	<font color="Red"><b>a fist
			:''''''
	<font color="Red"><b>and a bullet if necessary</font>
			:''''''
	]
	-----
			:''''''
	]
			:''' / '''
			:] 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
			:'''''' my 2p. regards. -] ] 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)</small>
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			<big><big>The return of Remix surfing</big></big>
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			<big><big>Fall songspam</big></big>
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			<big><big>And the livin' is EZ</big></big>
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			<big><big>Falleaves</big></big>
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			<big><big>A Hazy Shade of Winter</big></big>
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			<big><big>Spring springs</big></big>
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			<big><big>Twenty Twenty Four</big></big>
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			:<small>]: '''''' (December 27, 2020). ] 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
	</center>
			:Ordinary Things: '''''' (December 31, 2021). ] 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)</small>
			Ordinary Things: '''''' (December 31, 2022). ] 01:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
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			:<big><big>Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will '''not''' be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! ] 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)</big></big>
			::<small>''Now also introducing ''']''', security guard'' (challenging times ahead!). ] 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)</small>
			:::So much good music! River Man in particular is always a favourite of mine. ] • ] 19:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
			::::''//bows'' {{smiley}} ] 12:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
	== accurancy dispute ==		== March flowers ==
			{{User QAIbox
			| image = Yellow ball flowers, levada, Madeira.jpg
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			}}
			in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art ] --] (]) 13:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
			... and ] - I always wanted to go to that theatre where Idomeneo premiered, and they played Mozart! --] (]) 21:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
	Mr. El C,
			:Booksellers let's go! ] 18:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
			:: Especially booksellers who give a peace prize. I was there when ] reveived it. - Rossini's ] was ], - when I I think of ]. Dona nobis pacem - give us peace. --] (]) 22:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
			:::♬♫♪♩ Very nice. That rendition of the ''Little solemn Mass'' really took me places. ♩♪♫♬ {{smiley}} ] 05:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
			:::: love to hear that! - vacation pics uploaded (back home), at least the first day, - and ]. --] (]) 19:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
			:::: Some days later, a calf in the mist (for you to pet) and chocolate cake, and ] --] (]) 20:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
			== How to request recusals ==
	Perhaps you didn't see it because it is in the middle, but on the DoM talk page I wrote to you the following, and since have written more on the new subject I started yesterday:
			El C one day I'd like to better understand what caused your loss of trust in Arbcom because that has been apparent to me for quite some time. For now though I thought I would point you to where the ] for how to request recusals lives. ] (]) 10:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
	Mr. El C, I hope you don't mind me helping with this subject. I would suggest by starting with making the Washington Post article reference accurate.
			== ] ==
	The current article has it this way,
			Could you reduce the protection level on this page? The problem-causing user has been indeffed and I’d like to be able to edit the article. ] (]) 01:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
			:Before making substantive edits, I'd recommend taking a good look at the talk page discussions, including those concerning a proposed new draft. ] (]) 02:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
			::In any case, the protection has now expired. ] 20:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
			== Arbcom appeal for SwissArmyGuy ==
			Just like I did this before, but I have to appeal {{user|SwissArmyGuy}} for wrongdoing, instead of email at ]. But I opted {{u|Kingerikthesecond}} for asking their social media accounts, but it is cogent and coherent answers to a number of questions. Recently but I have to do something right, and please let me appeal as a clean start. ] (]) 16:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
			:Do not mention me or talk to me ever again. I want nothing to do with you. --] <b>(])</b> 16:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
			:{{tpw}} SwissArmyGuy, El C's block was taken over by the ]. You need to email them if you want to appeal; it cannot be made onwiki or towards El C. ]] 16:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
			:: {{tpw}} Not even the ArbCom can do this as the account is globally locked; they will need to appeal to stewards@wikimedia.org. ] 09:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
			== Notification of arbitration enforcement sanction ==
			There is an arbitration enforcement discussion at ] concerning you. If you wish to comment, you may comment there. ] (]) 12:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
			==Not just black and white!==
			Thanks for defending my yellowness there :) "They call him ]"... ] 18:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
			:There can only be one. ]! ] 18:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
			== My Declined Requests At RFPP ==
			You declined 4/5 of my RFPP requests? Why? You said "Pages are not protected preemptively" but GS/RUSUKR says "If a page (other than a "Talk:" page) mostly or entirely relates to the topic area, broadly construed, this restriction is preferably enforced through extended confirmed protection," and "Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area".@] ] (]) 00:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
			:{{re|Me Da Wikipedian}} per ], there needs to be recent issues before protecting. The last edit in one of the pages you nominated was 9 months ago, so that is quite {{an3|s}}. ] 00:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
			::Would ] qualify? @] ] (]) 00:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
			::How about ]@] ] (]) 00:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::{{re|Me Da Wikipedian}} those would not. We're looking for days or a couple of weeks at most. For the most part, anything that's in the weeks or months would not qualify. ] 00:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::If added 3 more requests do those work @] ] (]) 20:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Help needed ==
			Hello El C, having some .
			I wanted to remedy my mistake (missing '''}}''', but apparantly there is the ''new'' link to about.com which I never made. Would you be so kind as to take a closer look ? Thank you ever so much. Cheers ] (]) 12:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Hi. Not sure, not seeing any relevant new filters or new additions to the blacklist (local or global). Maybe ask at ] or ]. Should have some more tech-inclined folks than myself who can shed light on this. HTH. ] 17:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Rationale for extending extended-confirmed protection to the entire ] article? ==
			Hi. I'm not very familiar with the custom of topic-based page protections. The policy states "all pages broadly related to a topic, as well as parts of other pages that are related to the topic". The page was already partially protected in regards to any information regarding the incident in Gaza, and there has been no vandalism.
			Is this the norm of topic-based protections? E.g. it is not banned to edit the article ] because of the "gender-related contentious topics; or the biography of ] merely because it contains information about him criticising ]. I was about to add some information regarding past World Central Kitchen responses to natural disasters. ] (]) 01:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Hello. First, protection that is ] is against the norms (not sure if that's clear to you). As for this ]-enforcement sanction regime (the ] topic area) its ] requirement is split into two types of affected pages: ] which represent a permanent and close connection to the topic area, and ], whose connection is temporary and/or lesser. But as for the examples you pointed to above, neither ] nor ] feature the ECR requirement. Still, in a broader sense, if a dispute pertaining to any applicable topic area becomes acute on any page, that sanction regime could be invoked (and regardless if it's a ] or ] one). HTH. ] 02:54, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			::Thank you for the information. So as I understand it from the ], you applied ECR as you deem ] to be a "primary article" under that regime? I would appreciate a confirmation. Thanks again for the explanation. ] (]) 03:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::No, it's not ''primary,'' it's ''related,'' because that organization is active elsewhere in the world, like Ukraine. If it was only focused on its Gaza mission, then it would be deemed ''primary.'' ] 03:36, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::Ah okay. Then can you please remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page? The ] "area of conflict" is defined as
			::::4) For the purposes of editing restrictions in the ARBPIA topic area, the "area of conflict" shall be defined as encompassing
			::::a. the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted ("primary articles"), and
			::::b. edits relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict, to pages and discussions in all namespaces with the exception of userspace ("related content")
			::::if I understand it correctly. ] (]) 04:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Sorry, I don't follow. You don't provide a reasoning as to why I should "remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page," you just quote from that case. To what end? So, no, I don't think you understand it correctly, but I'm not sure if I can explain it better. ] 04:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::::According to the "ARBPIA general sanctions" {{endash}} ''Extended confirmed restriction: The extended confirmed restriction is imposed on the '''area of conflict'''.''
			::::::Since you mentioned your rationale for the imposition of protection was that you deemed the article to contain ''related content'', the general sanctions would not cover the imposition of whole-page protection. The ''related content'' was already explicitly protected as per the article talkpage. I am not an extended-confirmed user and I want to add information about past responses of WCK to natural disasters. ] (]) 04:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::::The only difference between ''primary'' and ''related'' is that ] isn't applied indefinitely for the latter. Because in the future that org may be in the news and experience active editing disputes about, say, Haiti, which is not currently deemed a ]. But a page can only be protected in its entirety. I don't have discretion about the protection level itself. If you think you have a convincing case, you could request to get your ] status expedited at ], though. ] 04:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::::::The "area of conflict" concept was introduced in ] following confusion about ] which included controversies regarding operation in West Bank settlements. So even though the article still contains the company's settlements controversy, the protection is not extended to the whole article. I might ask for a third opinion on this. ] (]) 05:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::::::Again, I'm not sure I follow. It's a standard action. But sure, maybe someone else can explain it better than I. The latest disputes at ] are ''related'' to the recent ] (which I also protected, as it happens). Both actions have been logged at ]. HTH. ] 05:25, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			{{od|:::::::::}}
			{{tpw}} Protection of any article related to the topic area, broadly construed, is permitted by the protection policy and the contentious topic procedures. In my experience, it is common practice to only temporarily protect pages which are only partially related. El C's protection was aligned with policy and practice. ] (] / ]) 12:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Gavin Menzies ==
			I got an email explaining it was a student project. ". Students were told explicitly not to vandalize articles, although we do not have the class time for students to learn what constitutes a good Misplaced Pages edit before they complete the assignment. I hope the disruption caused by the assignment was minimal—at the very least, it should inspire a future generation of Misplaced Pages editors." ] ] 13:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Thanks, Doug, that's interesting and a bit unexpected, but I should emphasize that I approached this from a wider lense. As in the long term issues the page has experienced intermittently, resulting in multiple protections from 2010 to the present day. Usually, these protections have been in the months, but the last two were for one year each (2017-2018 and 2019-2020, respectively), so I went for 2 years this time. But next time that page experiences major problems, whatever that reason may be, I think that the protection should be set not to expire. Best, ] 01:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
			== TFA ==
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			I like to see ] on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it ]. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) - Did you "pet" the calf (see March)? Did I tell you that the psalms are now done in Hebrew, even with translations into English?? Thanks to someone tireless. --] (]) 16:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
			The statue is of ], and as it happens, her ] is on the Main page today, and ] as ] (by NBC, 1939), and below (on my talk) three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --] (]) 14:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
			plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --] (]) 20:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Ballet in and of ] — now I (haven't) seen it all! ] 14:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
			:: My ] is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, about a shepherd, and then I saw plenty of sheep from the bike, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano ]. --] (]) 23:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::O' Euroland, where one could ride their {{emoji|1F6B5}} to the opera (which is to say, at all). ] 07:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::: relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page - yesterday ] with many anti-war songs by Jewish composers whose music banned by the Nazis. --] (]) 19:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::: images of a flock of sheep - some to pet - that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata ] --] (]) 19:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::: ] a sad task - memory of ] - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --] (]) 21:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::The juveniles' eyes — okay. But the adult one — how is that forward facing? 🐑 ] 12:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::: please help: when did I say "forward facing"? (my memory ...) - today you can look at the ] or "music" on my talk: the same topics, ], ] and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --] (]) 20:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::::It was a rhetorical question to the sky! RIP '']''. ] 20:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			== A kitten for you! ==
			]
			Thanks for being so positive and active on the wiki, may you continue finding it rewarding and something you enjoy :3
			— ♠ ] <sup>( ] / ] ) </sup> &#8258; <small> ]. </small> ♠ 22:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Thanks, ], that's very kind of you. {{smiley}} ] 14:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Order of the Arrow ==
			Would like a reference for "previously known as" - that change has not been made. I would be happy to help maintain this page. {{smiley}} ] 16 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Sorry, what is the question? Are you unable to edit ], but would like to do so? Is that the issue? ] 12:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
			::Yes or would at least like a reference for the "Previously Known As" statement. @] ] (]) 13:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::I'm not exactly sure what is meant by that (it's been many years since that article has even crossed my mind), but you should be good to go now. ] 14:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
			== User:Shoot for the Stars ==
			FYI, on being unblocked this user has immediately re-created ], which was redirected a significant time ago and was the subject of a number of discussions. ] 07:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Belatedly: the page/redirect you linked to above has not been edited by anyone in years, so you lost me. ] 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			You semi'd the page indefinitely, but you appear to have forgotten to reset the pending changes. With indef semi now in place, this obviously is not needed anymore. ] (]) 00:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Got it. ] 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Notification of ArbCom enforcement appeal ==
			This is to inform you I appealed the topic ban you originally imposed in April 2022. The discussion can be found at ]. ] (]) 17:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Your appeal is incomplete because it only links to a previously failed appeal, but not to anything I did (the original enforcement action). ] 17:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Reverting the edit of Maratha Empire article ==
			Hi, it appears that you recently reverted the article on the ] to a previous version. However, the prior version indicated a date of 1758, not 1760. Additionally, other articles about historical empires include maps from when they were at their peak, so the map from 1758 would be accurate in this context. The statement "Maratha Empire at its peak in 1760" contradicts the earlier map date. The map from 1758 is available on Wikimedia That's why I edited the map of 1760 to 1758 because the description under it was wrong. Seems like Misplaced Pages editors are biased. Also, there is a talk section about this topic in that article but no one discussed before editing. ] (]) 12:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
			:You have used multiple IPs to ] that change, some of which while ], and you wonder why no one wishes to engage your brief yet confusing and poorly-written ] from April 22? In this context, your {{tq|Seems like Misplaced Pages editors are biased}} seems unsubstantive and falls short. There may be a language barrier that at this time is insurmountable. This is the ], which means that there is a requirement that one would be ] in its use in order to ]. ] 13:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Question ==
			Hi El C, I just want to bump the question I asked you last month up at ]. I thought maybe you didn't see it because I added it all the way up there. ] (]) 00:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. Sorry, I did indeed miss your comment at that time. In answer to your question: no, nothing recent comes to mind. HTH. Regards, ] 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Can the ] be reduced in protection? ==
			I believe you are the Misplaced Pages administrator who added Extended Confirmation Protection to ]. <u>Can the protection for this page be reduced to semi-protected,</u> due to the need for updates related to the topic (the banner has been there since February 2024) and the reduced news coverage and controversy about the event.
			Side-note: I have extended confirmation protection editing power (500+ edits, more than 30 days). ] (]) 01:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
			:The protection overall is gonna expire soon'ish (July), but sure, sounds good <small>(])</small>. ] 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Siege of Szigetvár and Nikola IV Zrinski ==
			HI El C. I made a couple of edits on Misplaced Pages. I think I'm right, maybe I'm not. Two users disagree with me, one from the Battle for Sigetvar, the other from Nikola IV Zrinski, but no one else. I think that unverified images with unknown authors have no place on Misplaced Pages. Then everyone can post unverified pictures with unknown authors. I think there must be a rule for that in wikipedia, maybe there isn't. So I would like your opinion on that. See my Misplaced Pages edits. Thank you. ] (]) 16:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Hello. Yeah, sorry, I do think you're wrong here. Just because the 16th century author is unknown, doesn't mean the painting is "unverified." See https://en.mng.hu/artworks/34295 — I personally am inclined to trust the curators of the ]. But you can always bring any concerns or issue to the ]. That is where that discussion belongs. ] 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
			== Thanks for protecting those templates :) ==
			For context, I was going through ] and finding the ones with >5k transclusions that MusikBot hadn't yet upgraded to TPE. I started listing them at RFPP/I before it occurred to me that -- if I added them all in one set -- I might accidentally cause people to be annoyed with me for flooding the page. Having said that, if you don't mind protecting some more, would it be okay if I listed the remaining ones from that list with >5k transclusions here? (If you do mind, it's not a problem of course!)
			All the best, <span style="color:#595959">&zwj;—&zwj;</span>]<sub style="color:#595959">]]</sub> 22:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey, no worries, {{u|A smart kitten}}. Go for it. Regards, ] 22:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
			:Thanks :)
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			:(Courtesy ping {{u|MusikAnimal}} - there might be nothing wrong with the bot, but thought I should ping you just in case, due to the number of templates with >5k transclusions that MusikBot II hadn't yet upgraded the protection of.) All the best, <span style="color:#595959">&zwj;—&zwj;</span>]<sub style="color:#595959">]]</sub> 23:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
			::] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. Regards, ] 23:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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			== Possible removal of semi-protection at ] ==
			I don't know if the vandal is still active or not, but regardless, I believe the time since the page was protected is long enough for them to not vandalize again. Could you remove the semi protection on the page? ] (]) 23:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
			:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. ] 23:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Lower protection of ] ==
			From what I’ve seen the game has declined in popularity, meaning it won’t be as much of a target for vandalism. Plus, edits on the page have even very infrequent and there hasn’t been much talk page vandalism. I suggest semi protection and maybe pending changes if semi is also overkill, but semi is probably the best thing to do for now. ] (]) 01:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
			:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. ] 23:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Also do the same thing at ]. 🥒]🥒 (]) 13:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::Sorry, but for the most part, I prefer to only attend to such requests when they concern protections that I myself have imposed. I'd send you to that admin, but they are no longer one, so the venue to request that would be @]. HTH. ] 17:59, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Lower protection of ] ==
			The conversation has closed, with a consensus in favor of alphabetical order. ] (]) 21:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Protection was already lowered for that page on ]. ] 23:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
			== You've got mail ==
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			== UCLA protest articles extended confirmation ==
			Hi, I am a prof at UCLA and user https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Kd9806 is my student (see userpage). The extended confirmation lock on the ] is preventing her and many of my student editors who are newer but on the ground from contributing. Is it possible to make a case by case basis exception so some of them can edit? I assume you are an admin and have these privileges. ] (]) 15:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hello. Briefly, requests to expedite the ] are made @]. Yes, any admin may grant or decline these requests. ] 18:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
			::I made a request to reduce protection. Any chance you could review it in there? There's a backlog :) ] (]) 18:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::That page has no backlog currently. It doesn't even have any outstanding requests. My sense is that you would need more experience to qualify. Sorry, I'm writing in haste. ] 18:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
			::::Sorry, I'm very busy, but ], I mentioned ], not a protection reduction. Regardless, no, I can't review it. The rule is that you gotta ask the protecting admin first, who is... <small>''*checking*''</small>... {{u|Daniel Case}}. But since this is a ] ] action, it's highly unlikely that that protection will be reduced. ] 22:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Request for remove edit lock ==
			Please remove pp-30-500 ] ] (]) 23:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Sorry, no, that's a ] protection. A topic area under special consideration. ] 23:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
			== May music ==
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			On the bicentenary of Beethoven's ], I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and ] (leading to the two at the church's article). --] (]) 21:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
			] is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. The second piece in our program begins with first line from ], which made us sing "Israel" often. --] (]) 21:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
			] is on the Main page ], together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - . - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --] (]) 10:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
			did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --] (]) 14:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
			] mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --] (]) 14:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
			:I enjoyed listening to ''Juliette Journaux for piano'', thanks as always for the recommends! ] 06:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
			:: I liked her playing also, to the point. Today's story about ] still needs support for ]. - "places" have goslings. --] (]) 13:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
			:: 29 May 1913: ] - ] - Brokmeier is on the Main page also --] (]) 09:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
			:: ] is about ], one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --] (]) 22:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
			:: last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --] (]) 18:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
			== U&A Reversion ==
			Hello. I saw that you were involved with the reversion of my post on the “Universities and Antisemitism” page, specifically about MIT. I was wondering if you could provide me with some clarification on why my edit was reverted. I see that this page is protected, meaning one would have to be above 500 edits, but I am curious about the comment on Palestine-Israel articles. I understand that that these incidents at MIT have been influenced by the I-P conflict, but is there a way I can acknowledge that fact without being in violation of these rules? I would really appreciate any suggestions that could improve to fit Misplaced Pages standards. Thank you so much! ] (]) 16:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hi. I actually was not involved in any reversions and know little to nothing about those. Rather, I protected the page (]) in response to a protection request (]). Unfortunately, since you lack the required tenure (the ] one of 30 days and 500 edits), you cannot presently edit the article due these restrictions (]). Restrictions the ] has imposed on the ] topic area. In short, this was a procedural protection that aligns with these rules. Sorry I don't have better news for you. Regards, ] 17:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
			::So, ], either you are able to reach to the ] tenure (which must happen organically) so that the ] threshold is met, or ] only permits you to participate as follows (quoting): {{tq|''Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make ] related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive''}}. ] 17:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::This is super helpful, thanks so much! So sorry to make any false accusations, I was just looking at the edit history and wanted more information. ] (]) 18:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
			::::Not at all, glad you found it informative.{{smiley}} All the best, ] 19:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Question from Clovermoss ==
			Hi El C, I have a question. I noticed what you did . I was kind of ambivalent on whether or not I should revoke talk page access but the idea of protecting the page itself didn't occur to me. Is it because of the sockpuppetry? I'm still getting the hang of nuance surrounding admin stuff and I try to use confusing situations as learning opportunities. ] ] 10:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. So I revoked TPA because this user continued spamming after being indeffed. Only after that did I notice that they also replied to their own spam as an IP for some reason <sup>(])</sup>. So I also semiprotected, an action that, granted, renedres the TPA revocation moot. Anyway, since this is a spam-only account with less than 20 edits, my overall position is: ''who cares?'' Best wishes, ] 10:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Can you admin delete an edit from page history ==
			Some new (apparently agenda-driven) user has realised they can't edit most Israel-Palestine related articles and so has decided to hit related ones. While most of this can/has just been removed, is, well, read it yourself. A paragraph ranting about Israel being justified. Absolutely not appropriate to be hosted by Misplaced Pages even just in edit history. ] (]) 11:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Sorry, in my view, that is not a suitable candidate for ]. But one's mileage may vary, so feel free to get a 2nd opinion. ] 11:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			::I'm a little surprised that wikivoice apologism for what is accepted as ] isn't suitable for deletion, to be honest, but thank you for considering. ] (]) 11:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::{{tps}}], will tell me which section of ] you believe applies to the linked diff? Sorry ] for taking your space to ask the question. ] (]) 16:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			::::Sure, no.2 - using wikivoice to present apologism for at least war crimes, seems to me as {{tq|Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material}}. Regardless of whatever side of any particular conflict, any comment anywhere that tries justifying what are widely considered war crimes is just so out of line.
			::::What makes it cross the line, for me, is the presentation of this comment in wikivoice as if it's authoritative. I mean, the content was not relevant at the article and had a poor source anyway, but say it was relevant and well-sourced, saying "organisations X and Y think..." is good. But not wikivoice saying it. And, beyond NPOV as I see it, there are likely to be some affected people who would take that as Misplaced Pages, as a large organisation, taking an offensive stance. ] (]) 16:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Deleting my userpage? ==
			Hullo El_C, long time no interact! Sorry to be a bother, but I'm writing this to ask if there's a way you or another administrator may "delete" my user page? Looking back, I'm quite uncomfortable with how I revealed both my general location and age in previous revisions (what happens when you're young, dumb, and very dumb!) and was wondering if there was a way for the edit history to be deleted? Or at least not publicly available for other contributors to see? Hope you're having a nice day, many thanks :) ] (]) 07:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey ], sorry I missed you. But it looks like someone else helped you with that request. Hope all is well. Yours, ] 22:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Allison McAtee article ==
			@]
			Hi, just thought I should let you know, the user you blocked from editing that article didn't waste any time making another account so they could keep removing information. This time claiming it's a request from the actress. Which I highly doubt. Is is possible for you to prevent that page from being edited not only from accounts that haven't made many edits, but also from IPs since even if an editor gets blocked, they could also log out and make edits? ] (]) 23:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
			:]. Thanks, ]. ] 23:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
			==Good News & Bad News==
			Hi. I just wanted to let you know that:
			*'''Bad News''': The "lulzsters" struck ] once again, despite a long history of protection settings in the page log. Can you protect the page for ''even'' a longer period?
			*'''Good News''': The ] from ] the disambiguation page for a couple of years now. However, I could not chat with the protecting admin due to their prolonged inactivity on Misplaced Pages. Is it ok for you instead to reset pending changes?
			In conclusion, sorry for disturbing you.] (]) 20:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hi. I don't know who {{tq|little T}} is, but it looks like I protected ] back in 2022. It was protected by another admin earlier in 2024 (an admin who is active now, or was a few of hours ago, at least). Doesn't matter, I see that there's a lot of disruption to the page, so sure: ] ''']'''&#32;for a period of '''6 months''', after which the page will be automatically unprotected.<!-- Template:RFPP#semi --> ] 01:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Thank you very much in advance! As for ], it is currently pending-protected indefinitely. My concern is: there are barely any edits, whether anonymous or autoconfirmed, which defeats the purpose of protecting such disambiguation page beyond this point. Do you mind '''reset'''ing '''pending changes'''?] (]) 01:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::No problem. Yeah, that's odd about that disambiguation page, but reset it to what end? It hasn't been edited in years, so I don't think it really matters. ] 02:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			Hi. Can you look after ] for a while? I once reverted an edit under another IP address but that revision persisted on coming back. At this point, I am uncertain who on earth is right. Furthermore, I am unwilling to get involved again to contribute for the time being due to excessive false accusations by ] for being a ] of ] (just because I showed up in ] under the 197.::/16 range and/or the 102.::/16 range). Please keep an eye on the page history and decide which is best.] (]) 17:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hi again, IP. Unfortunately, I can't spare the time to investigate this, but {{np|ohnoitsjamie}} (''this user'') is an experienced admin, so you might wish to try to explain yourself better to him, or submit a query to ] if you truly believe it to be a legit (and intractable) problem. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but here's hoping the matter gets resolved amicably. Regards, ] 21:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			::With the tone he uses to respond to my complaints or in his edit summaries:
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			::I don't think it is worth bringing such issue to ]. Plus, ]. My only solution is to bear such situation and take a break (even for up to 3 months, one of my blocked former IP ranges).
			::He may be one of the majority of, if not all, admins who would disbelieve how my editing behaviour differs from the telly vandal(s), aside from the IP ranges which I've mentioned earlier that I edit with (I don't literally hop from one range to another, it is just the poor quality of my internet connection which periodically disconnects, and that every reconnection comes with a different IP address under those IP ranges without the possibility of enforcing a static IP address).
			::*I don't blank notices on my talk pages.
			::*I leave edit summaries occassionally, including a period at the end.
			::*I may revert to my revision, but not to the extent of warring (]).
			::Signed.] (]) 23:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Confused ==
			Hi ], What's the about? ] (]) 06:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hello. It is about you being mindful with your edits, as stated. ] 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Oh, I just noticed the diffs. Sorry, there was no edit conflict warning when I published. ] (]) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::No worries, these things happen. ] 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			== MEK moderation ==
			Hi {{u|El C}}: I know you stepped away from moderating MEK discussions, but I wonder if you are still considering this kind of work? If not, I'll note it and make sure I don't ping you again about this. If you are up for it, I'm workshopping an RFC in the talk page, and I would appreciate any uninvoved feedback to make it fair. Whatever the result is, I would like to avoid a "Bad RFC" outcome. Thank you. Best, ] (]) 14:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey Mario. I'm afraid that's a ''not.'' I helped establish ] so that I never have to do that again. But I wish you success in your efforts. Regards, ] 15:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Makes sense. Best, ] (]) 15:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Care and feeding of bots ==
			Hi El,
			A comment from the busybody in residence, regarding ]: the bot was only waiting for three requests to become eligible for archiving, which would have happened at 14:38 (UTC). The reason why it wasn't willing to do its chore before was the absence of a {{tl|pagelinks}} at the top of the section. I ], a little while ago. ] (]) 14:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Thanks, ]. I thought the bot had gained sentience and did that to fuck with me, but your explanation is better! ] 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
			== My signature ==
			I find this funny more than anything, but can you eleborate by what makes my signature being “jarring”? I would be up to redesigning it. I made it three years ago when I pretty much never edited. ]] 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
			:I'm not engaging with this. ] 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Laken Riley ==
			Hello again! You and I had a brief discussion yesterday when I asked for an article about Laken Riley's killing to be semi-protected. It seems that even after the protection, multiple editors have been insistent on calling it a "murder", and one of them even moved the page to ], in violation of ]. There is a discussion on the Talk page going on about this, and since you were involved in this area when you and I talked yesterday, I think the discussion on the Talk page could use your valuable input. Thank you. ] (]) 12:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey, I see it's now been moved back. I'm gonna move-protect it momentarily (] only) so as at to remove all temptation. ] 21:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Thanks! If you'd like to contribute, I think your input on the language used on the rest of the page could benefit from your input as well (since I changed a few instances of the word "murder" to other things, but that got reverted by someone else). We're discussing it on the Talk page. ] (]) 22:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::No problem, but sorry, no time. ] 22:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			::::No worries! I figured I might as well ask, but I understand. ] (]) 22:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Paula Vennells - FP ==
			Hi El_C. There is no reason given on the article talk page (or anywhere else I can see that justifies the Full Protection). It is a controversial subject article, but that in itself, does not warrant full protection. I understood that a rationale for article full protection on the talk page or elsewhere is required? Can you please review or add something to the TP? ] (]) 21:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			:The protection notice can be viewed at the following ]. The reason should be self-explanatory: an edit war between like 8 users. Sorry, I can't spare the time today for an additional note, but feel free to link my answer here if you think it might help. ] 21:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
			::I disagree that the disruption meets the criteria for full protection. There is next to no current activity on the article or talk page. The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed. I think if you are willing, it would be appropriate to review the protection in light of the narrow area of dispute and current limited level of disruption. Thanks. ] (]) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::I count nearly 20 reverts in the 2 days alone prior to my full protection, so, no, that makes no sense and is wholly divorced from the facts. <small>Obviously, {{tq|'''''current'''''}} would not include the 2 days that it's been fully-protected since, when no one could edit the page aside from admins (fulfilling edit requests) and bots (with sysop permissions).</small> I honestly am at a loss here. ] 07:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
			::::RE: {{tq|''The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed''}} — I didn't mention any participants, but if you mean the requestor of that protection request, they did indeed edit (revert) the article recently, <u>less than an hour</u> prior to my protecting it. And their revert itself was reverted 6 minutes later (9:22-9:28), which is a bit longer than the 4 minutes between reverts prior to these (9:18-9:22).
			:::::''']''': <small>'''9:22''', 25 May 2024 {{np|Gaia Octavia Agrippa}} (talk | contribs | block) ''Reverted 1 edit by Localhistorian2024 (talk): WP:NPOV'' </small>
			:::::''']''':<small> '''9:28''', 25 May 2024 {{np|Localhistorian2024}} (talk | contribs | block) ''The London Gazette has stated...'' </small>
			:::::''']''': <small>'''10:11''', 25 May 2024 {{np|El C}} (talk | contribs | block) Protected "Paula Vennells": ''Edit warring / content dispute'' ( (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)) (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)))</small>
			::::So obviously the facts align with my description rather than your own. Facts which are provable and easily verifiable (per directly above). ] 08:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
			== Lowering Protection Level on ] ==
			Hi EL_C. I was wondering when you will lower the protection level on Ebrahim Raisi since it is no longer a highly visible page. ] (]) 13:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. ] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->, thanks for the reminder. Still, noting as of earlier today it is no longer listed at ]. So that's keeping it pretty tight, but I think it's probably fine (unless famous last jinx). ] 14:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Hello! On March 31, 2023, you semi-protected ] (now a redirect) under ]. This then went to ] (redirect), then ] (redirect), then ], and back then forth again with ] to remain at the current title. As it has been over a year since the original sanction, I would like to ask if you would be willing to reconsider the page protection placed upon the page (and by extension the other pages listed). ] <sup>(]) </sup> 02:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
			:] '''Unprotected'''<!-- Template:RFPP#unpr -->. Regards, ] 18:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
			== Revdel request Mexico ==
			Hello! Do you mind if I ask for a revdel on this abominably sexist edit: on ]? The offending user has been warned on talk by someone but I have doubts on whether the warning was serious enough. I was also considering page protection but the edit seems to occur every three weeks or so, so the request might not be granted. Thanks! ] (]) 03:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
			:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. Regards, ] 18:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
			== June music ==
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			] is about the TFA, by sadly missed ]. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to ] next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin ]. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for ]. --] (]) 12:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
			] died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of ]. --] (]) 15:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
			] is about a tune used by ] and ], and Bach's text is base on ]. --] (]) 19:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
			Today is "the day" for ], also for Bach's ], based on a hymn based on ] (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --] (]) 16:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
			:Says ], but maybe ]? ]? ]? Also, when the last time you've read '']'' cover to cover? ] 13:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			:: I looked at the other two, and groundhog (high mountains) and capybara (much bigger) are out. The habitat described in nutria matched where I saw it, right next to the river, in the middle of town btw, and ignoring me. - Joyce: never. Tough enough for native English speakers. I read what Graham Waterhouse set to music ("Bulbulone" from Finnegans Wake, "Arise" from Chamber Music, #14, "Buzzard" again from Finnegans Wake), who was also inspired by ]. --] (]) 13:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::A river in the middle of town? What town was this again? *** Yeah, understandable, no doubt a tough read. I personally am not a fan. ] 13:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::: ] lies along the Lahn, northern side, and the trail is along the Lahn, and where I saw the animal was in the middle of the trail, well, yes, there's a little park on the other side of the trail. The road to Geilnau is a dead-end, which makes the valley quiet, with the train tracks in a tunnel in a distance. --] (]) 15:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Either Nutria or Muskrat, then. All four are originally from the Americas, but those two were introduced into Eurasia. Capybara (which was a joke nomination) is South America only, while Groundhog—see my petting one at the top of this talk page (though maybe it's actually a Muskrat!)—is North America only. ] 15:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::::: New pics of food and flowers come with ] of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by ]. I nominated ] because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated ] for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --] (]) 13:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::::: The nom for Tappy has now a lot of support, but needs an admin to post it. Anybody looking here? --] (]) 20:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::::: ] is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that ] had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought ] sung (one based on ] and one based on ]) and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --] (]) 14:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::::: ] --] (]) 15:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
			== Jordan ==
			Hello, I just noticed the ] article had been placed under indef ECP in April, could you please tell me why this was done? Noting that there was an that stated the Jordan article does not fall under ARBPIA, and also that there was not much disruption to the article beyond a single week in April. ] (]) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. So when attending to ], I saw excessive ARBPIA editing (disruptive or otherwise) by non-] accounts. That's the reason. As for that 2018 AE discussion: for our immediate purposes, it's somewhat academic whether the protection defines ] as a ] or as ]. There's also the issue of that page having been protected <u>over 25 times</u> prior. For the longer term, though, there could be a case to downgrade it to (indef) semi as ''related content'' only, say, in a few months from now. ] 18:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
			== a very cute duck ==
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			|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''a very cute duck '''
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			|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I just felt kind today ;P ] (]) 02:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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			:Thank you for the duck, ]! {{smiley}} ] 13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			== Subject ==
			Thank you ] for closing the (]) page due to repeated vandalism. if possible, close it in general from fake accounts. ] (]) 12:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			:No problem, glad I could help, ]. If further issues arise, feel free to relist at ] or drop me a note here. ] 13:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
			::] The page has been vandalized again. Please close it permanently ] (]) 00:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::] ''']'''&#32;for a period of '''2 weeks''', after which the page will be automatically unprotected.<!-- Template:RFPP#semi --> Permanent protection often gets imposed after dozens of previous protection actions (of escalated durations) over the course of years had proven insufficient. So this page isn't a candidate for that at this time, I'm afraid, since this is only its second protection. ] 06:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
			::::It's okay. I want you see it again in two weeks, to see if it was vandalized ] (]) 12:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Honestly, I'm unlikely to remember unless given a reminder. But, again, feel free to drop me a line if there's further problems, and it'll be, I dunno, 2 months next, and many months after that. Unlike some admins, I don't usually allow a page to be protected tens of times before making it indef (permanent), but it still won't be twice or thrice from now. ] 12:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
			::::::There is nothing wrong with making the page permanently protected if it is always vulnerable due to frequent modifications, thank you ] (]) 12:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
			:::::::Requests for indef protections for pages of similar and even higher levels of disruption are extremely common, but the ]'s ethos stresses exhausting all options, and within reason, going through the motions. Which I'm not really the biggest fan of, but I can't act by fiat contra that unless there's something truly egregious. ] 12:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Hiya, you asked for a reminder to restore the page's indef semi protection once the full protection lapses. Here you are! ] (]) 14:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
			:Beat me to it! :-) ]<sup>]</sup> 15:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
			::] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done --> — thanks for the reminder, guys! ] 00:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
			== My signature ==
			Thank you for reminding me to add my signature to my comments. Somehow, I forgot to do it in that ArbCom discussion because usually, when commenting on an article talk page, the website automatically provides our signature for us. I have just added the <nowiki>{{unsigned}}</nowiki> template to each of them. Thank you. 🙂 — ] ] 23:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
			:No worries, thanks for following up. I didn't realize that was a thing, but that makes sense. Incidentally, some have taken '']'' to '']'' reminder, but the truth is that I'm annoying about sigs in general. At least once monthly, ''].'' Oh well. Regards, ] 00:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
			== Edit request ==
			Hello. You semi protected the page on the ] for a number of days, and its talk page is also semi-protected.
			Previously, consistent with the wp norm, the first line of that article began contained bolded language. In this case, saying:
			:::"On 23 June 2024, the '''2024 Dagestan attack''' took place, when coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..."
			That has now been changed. It now says "On 23 June 2024, coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..." There is no bolded language in the lede, matching the title. And I cannot fix that, or ask on the article talk page that it be fixed, as those pages are semi-protected.
			Can you please restore the former format, consistent with out norms across the project?
			I leave my request here as I am unable to do so on the article talk page, given that it has been semi-protected. ] (]) 03:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
			:Hi. Sorry, I'm precluded from doing that due to ]. You can submit that request to '']'', though. HTH. ] 04:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
			== Request renewing a block for persistent BATTLEGROUND ==
			I'd rather not go through ANI all over again when an editor immediately returned to the behavior that got them blocked there previously. In short, {{noping|Elinruby}} has continued their personal attacks and other BATTLEGROUND tactics across multiple discussions both on- and off-Wiki since their most recent block. When I reverted a removal of content on ], they
			#Twice again removed the content
			#Initiated a talk page discussion mischaracterizing me as claiming Portland is in Canada, a false statement they {{diff2|1230766486|repeated}} on their talk page
			#Opened a discussion at ] only 15 minutes after discussion began on the article talk page, but used {{diff2|1230764985|such a non-neutral statement}} that it had to be reverted
			#Began a further ''eight'' different talk sections on the ]
			#{{diff2|1231006092|Wrote}} {{tq|crickets}} when I didn't have time to immediately respond, following up with {{diff2|1231191892|this}} when I finally had a moment to begin catching up
			They've also taken to posting ''numerous'' discussions at NPOVN and RSN recently, including at least one where they {{diff2|1230209560|admitted}} to not even reading the source they were reporting ({{tq|I didn't actually check the text}}). Another editor has also {{diff2|1230968812|recently complained}} regarding Elinruby's behavior. I request you restore the block with an escalated duration. ~ ] (]) 02:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
			:<big>''Pass!''</big> <small>Sorry, at this time above all else, I can't commit to the follow ups, certainly if blocking was determined the correct course of action. So noticeboard does seem like your best bet (such as it is, but what can you do?).</small> ] 09:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
			== Derby Subj ==
			Hi ] this ] needs to be closed after the continuous destruction, thank you. ] (]) 01:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
			== July music ==
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			The ] about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was ]. Listen, and perhaps read what ] (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- ] (]) 12:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
			] is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. --] (]) 16:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
			3 July is the birthday of ], and I'm happy I had ]. It's also the birthday of ], and I uploaded pics from his family's album ]. --] (]) 13:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
			], the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, ] became GA and ] went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in ] in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to ]) up to Calaf in ] in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of ] who was a pioneer of {{diff|Percyc Grainger|579193399||a concise infobox}} in 2013. --] (]) 12:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
			Pictured on the Main page: Brian's ], my ], and ] related to all three items of ] on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, ], a bass, and ], a violinist from Georgia, (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --]
			(]) 10:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
			Found a bit more. ] is about her, an outstanding violinist from Georgia, which is a sad story in the end. --] (]) 13:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
			My ] is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about ], opera by ], while ] was - because of the TFA - about ], opera by ], - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) - and a small deer pictured in the new pics --] (]) 11:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
			Today's story is ], in honour of the friend from Israel whose birthday is today. --] (]) 22:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
			] is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially ], yesterday's was ], and on Thursday ]. If that's not enough my talk offers the chamber music from two amazing concerts. The latest pics have a juxtaposition of cattle (moving their ears at a wild speed) and their meat on a plate - a bit cruel perhaps. --] (]) 10:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
			... and ] begins with ], paraphrased in 1524, and put to five (!) ]s in 1724, for this Sunday. Nominated for GA. --] (]) 19:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
			== Remove protection from ] ==
			I see no reason for the page to continue being protected since there is no controversy or anything surrounding it unlike ] ]. Plus, edits are so infrequent that protection is most likely useless. ''Maybe'' if vandalism returns there could be some pending changes or maybe semi, but there’s no way a 5-year-long ECP is worth it anymore. ] (]) 01:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
			:It was an LTA years-long obsession (not just with this page) rather than real-world controversy or incident. Anyway ] '''Unprotected'''<!-- Template:RFPP#unpr -->. ] 06:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
			== Remove protection ==
			Hi ELC, After opened the page ] after you closed it for a week, it was vandalized again. Can you close it permanently. ] (]) 14:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
			== Profile syntax ==
			Hello! I'm cleaning up various pages with tracked syntax errors and ran across your userpage this evening. Wondered if you'd be willing to update it with changes to correct the misnested and obsolete tag issues? If these meet your approval, you can copy the entirety (minus the first two lines) for simplicity. Best wishes, and hope you are staying cool this hot summer! ] (]) 05:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
			:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done --> — thank you for your diligence. Best, ] 09:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
			== List of highest grossing films protection ==
			Hi, I asked you a question ], but I don't know if you saw the ping, can you give back to the page the EC protection? Thanks. Today another edit was reverted to a registered user--] (]) 17:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. No, I didn't see it, but you should not edit archives (from a year ago and in general), since those discussions are no longer live. Sorry, but a single user (now blocked) is not enough for ] that would effect many. And I don't have the time to look into this in depth, sort of in-the-blind, as I don't remember much about this page a year ago. ] 18:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
			::But it is not only a user, I told you about also in December 2023, there are many reverted edits from registered users, you can see some of them , but there are another without the tag. Since the user that asked you to reduce the protection didn't know anything about the page situation, I think that is pretty unfair, for months me, Betty Logan and other users have to revert many edits because of that, so maybe you can put back the ECP even without knowing the page too much, like that user did in September 2023, if you "accepted" that request from a user that doesn't follow, doesn't edit and doesn't know the page, you can trust me, one of the main contributor, when I say that the page still needs the ECP, thanks--] (]) 19:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
			:::Sure, let's see what {{u|Betty Logan}} says (I see you've notified her of this). Sorry, I've protected many hundreds of pages since then, so again, I simply do not recall any of these details. ] 20:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
			::::There is currently an underlying issue with Box-Office Mojo double-counting re-release grosses. This has led to many editors "correcting" figures to incorrect values. These edits are carried out entirely in good faith, but they do generally come from newer, more inexperienced editors who are not familiar with the issue. We are tracking the problem at ] which most of the regular Film project editors are familiar with. I think extending the protection would probably help. It would mean that new/inexperienced editors would need to request the change on the talk page where the problem could be explained to them (if applicable). I don't think it would be detrimental to updating the article because it has several dedicated editors from a wide geographic span. ] (]) 10:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
			:::::] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done --> — thank you both. ] 15:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
			== List of CNN Personnel vandal ==
			Hey, El C!
			A couple days ago you protected ] after an Israeli IP vandal engaged in several days of constant vandalism. Well, the protection is off and he's back. Would you mind taking look cat the situation and see what might be done? He's IP-hopping, so a range block, maybe? You know what's best. Thanks for any help! ] (]) 02:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
			== August music ==
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			Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of ], watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! -- ] (]) 15:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
			... and ], like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --] (]) 14:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
			On 13 August, ], and the image one. The cantata is an extrordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in ]. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --] (]) 11:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
			... adding 4 animals from 30 July --] (]) 14:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. Thank you. Sorry for my absence. Hope to be back soon, though. All the best, ] 12:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			== IP vandalism again ==
			Ip ] and ] are vandalizing movie pages by changing budget and boxoffice numbers. You blocked IP ] and all these IPs come from one person. I think a block on a range will be helpful. ] (]) 11:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
			==Happy First Edit Day!==
			<!-- ##RW UNDERDATE## -->
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			| text = <big>'''Happy First Edit Day!'''</big><br />Hi El C! On behalf of the ], I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made and became a Wikipedian! ] (]) 07:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
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			== Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society ==
			] Dear {{PAGENAME}},
			I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the ''']''', an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Misplaced Pages project for twenty years or more. &#x200B;
			Best regards, ] (]) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
			{{clear}} <!-- Template:Twenty Year Society invitation --><span id="The_Herald:1723186978869:User_talkFTTCLNEl_C" class="FTTCmt">—&nbsp;] (]) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)</span>
			== Unblocking from editing ==
			Why did you unblock me from editing? ] (]) 03:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
			:That didn't happen. ] 12:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			==One of the saddest songs I know==
			"", by ]. ] (]) 16:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. More Ted Hawkins, nice. But, sorry, I am denying sadness for the moment (somehow). {{smiley}} Hope you've been well. Best wishes, ] 12:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			== Question about a close ==
			Hi El C. In your close ] you used the phrase {{tqq|with prejudice}}. This wording has come up in a few different places I've seen regarding appeals and so I was just wondering what you meant by it. Thanks, ] (]) 21:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. This is over a year ago, but probably aligning with such comments as {{tq|''Hell no and reconsider after the heat death of the universe''}}, and so on. HTH. ] 21:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			::While I have no eagerness to see this person unblocked (probably ever) it's been taken by a few admins to mean that the person can literally never appeal again, which strikes me as beyond the consensus of that conversation (and truthfully likely beyond policy consensus, at least as policy is written). Was it your intent to permanently close all future appeals? ] (]) 22:03, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			:::No, no, that was not my intent. I think at the time I was just, like, ''fuck that guy''. But I agree with what you say and, in any case, I would not have stood in the way of any future appeals. ] 22:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			::::Thanks. I certainly can't argue with the sentiment you had at the time. Best, ] (]) 22:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
			=== Request to reconsider a close on "with prejudice" ===
			Hi El C. I know it's been a while, but you closed ], and since then I think the impact of your wording has been perhaps broader than intended. Your wording stated that the appeal was denied "with prejudice." While I understand the sentiment of the thread was that this user was unwelcome, the "with prejudice" wording suggests that we will never, ever unban them. While that might be true, it might not be, and telling someone to never come back just encourages sockpuppeting. This has created a problem at UTRS where it's unclear if this user can appeal at all. So in the interest of resolving this issue, I wonder if you might reconsider your choice of wording in the close. I don't think the community has authorized the sort of decision to permaban people without any further chance of appeal. ] <sup>]</sup>] 20:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
			:Hello. Please refer to the (now main) thread directly above, which I feel suffices for this singular incidence. If you need more from me, let me know. ] 02:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			::@] Ah, my bad, I didn't see that @] had also raised the issue. ] <sup>]</sup>] 06:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			:::{{re|CaptainEek|Barkeep49}} To expand a bit (sorry, been pressed for time recently), I think there are ways in which future appeals ''can'' be limited by a closing admin in the course of a consensus for a CBAN, which is when reoccurring appeals are the subject of that consensus expressly. I've done this before. Two years probably tops (five unlikely). Indef denial of considering appeals ''is'' possible, but that'd be the exclusive domain of ARBCOM (project-wise, of course it could also happen at the Foundation level). This was reflexive on my part, which I do regret in so far as it inconveniencing my colleagues. And for that I apologize, {{u|Deepfriedokra}}, {{u|Jpgordon}}, and {{u|Yamla}}. Yours truly, ] 06:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
			::::Thanks y'all. {{pinging|JBW|}} who was very articulate at utrs. ] (]) 09:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Thanks sorry to put you all through that. I guess that now means I get to (reluctantly) carry his appeal to the community-- but not on a Sunday, for that is my day of prayer. ] (]) 09:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
			== September music ==
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			Today is ]! On display his portrait by ], music from ], and two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday ;) - See ''places'' for a stunning sunrise, on the day ]'s 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). -- ] (]) 20:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
			] is about a man who played jazz when it was banned by the Nazis, - you can listen to how they played it later. --] (]) 20:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
			] features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful ], some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --] (]) 12:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
			== Abdul Hannan ==
			Hello, could you protect this ] so that only self-confirmed editors participate and not anonymous IPs. Thank you. ] (]) 07:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
			:Sorry, I'm declining your request, ]. One disruptive user (now indef blocked) is insufficient grounds for protection (i.e. there needs to be a few). ] 14:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
			== Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick ==
			Hello there! I'm just reaching out to inform you that troll editors are back trying to mess with this page, since the protections were recently taken down. They removed a more recent picture of the guy to use an image from nearly 20 years ago, and I worry that there may be more vandalization to come.
			Could you restore the protection template please? I'm happy to update the image again, if needed, and stay on the lookout for disruptive editing. Thanks so much. ] (]) 16:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			:It looks like someone deleted the more recent image altogether actually. Not sure why, since there's no justification for it... ] (]) 16:33, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
			== October music ==
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			You may remember ], my ] as ]. ] was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with ] mentioned in story and music. --] (]) 11:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
			I made Leif Segerstam my ] story today. -] (]) 09:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
			My ] is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on ''']''' some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --] (]) 17:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
			Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world ]. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted ] in 2016. --] (]) 15:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
			== Question ==
			Hi, El C. Regarding the "" edit summary, can you suggest what I could have done differently here? I a talk page discussion elaborating on this, but it seems that my approach was not good enough here. Do you suggest a more descriptive edit summary? Thank you. ] (]) 15:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
			:Hello. It doesn't touch on that being the prevailing convention. You need to address ''that'' directly. ] 15:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
			::Oh, I see. Makes sense, I should have referred to something like ] or ] then. Thanks for clarifying. ] (]) 15:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
			== Thanks for the info ==
			Hello @] thank you for the reply and the info in the post and don't worry for writing in haste, I was thinking that page was intended for quick comments which is why I didn't contribute when I initially saw the post. Thanks for the info you provided I'm gonna try and see what I can do about it. ] (]) 20:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
			:You're welcome, ], glad I could help. Good luck. ] 20:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
			::], in the interest of completeness, I forget if you commented at the latest ANI report <small>(])</small>, but I ended up blocking Steven indefinitely <small>(]).</small> Hope this message finds you well. Best, ] 20:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
			:::@] I was watching it but never got the time to write out my full opinion on the matter, in the end it wasn't needed I suppose. Thanks for letting me know and thanks for the help! ] (]) 21:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
			== Ukrainian election vandalism ==
			Hello! Unfortunately, the user I mentioned at ], whom you partially blocked for two weeks, appears to be back under the new IP ]; they are continuing the pattern of inserting 2025 as the next election date with no source and the edit summary "election proposed". I've reverted the latest edits again - the three articles affected are ], ], and ].
			Thank you for your help! ] (]) 15:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
			:Sorry, I've just noticed that the same thing was done on ], which I have reverted as well. This one is by ] (), I don't know if they are the same person behind the two IPs. ] (]) 15:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
			::Hey. So I've just semiprotected all of them under ]. Obviously, there's also a ] undercurrent there as well, but we'll cross that bridge if and/or when that protection level falls short. Sorry, I'm writing in haste and do not have time to look into that named account (or anything else) right now, but they have only two edits at the time of writing, so the semiprotection should work against them, at least for the time being. Best, ] 15:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
			:::@] that's great, thank you so much for your help and swift action! ] (]) 15:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
			::::You're welcome, happy to help. Please feel free to continue to update me if any further issues arise. ] 15:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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			== Another controversy with Mellk ==
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			Hi, once again I have an issue with this user Mellk, who created another controversy seemingly out of nowhere and don't want to explain a proper reason for their reverts, regarding this they were already formally warned about by you.
			First, they reverted me in Kievan Rus' article , with a summary like this "'''"Land of Rus" not mentioned in source, WP:OR and other unexplained changes'''". I reverted them , and pointed out that it Rus' land is mentioned with sources literally above the section I edited (In ], go to the "names" section and see an image with a sentence below:"Rus' land in narrow sense", which is sourced!), I also pointed out that I have already given an explanation for my changes in my last summary. They continued to persist and reverted my changes again, with a summary:"'''Image alone is not RS and overall this does not look like an improvement, you can start a talk page discussion about this'''.
			I didn't revert them again, as this is what other administrator suggested, so I wasn't doing any edit warring, and instead I decided to address this issue to them in a discussion in History of Ukraine talk page, expecting to solve the issue quickly , yet here they greeted me with this comment:"'''This talk page is only about improving this article. This does not count as spam. If you create a new topic there, I will explain my reasoning there in more detail'''". They basically told that it is I who must create new topic on Kievan Rus' talk page and only then they will give a proper explanation, as if it's not what they are supposed to do from the beginning .
			I addressed them this and after few responses, they eventually moved to the talk page of Kievan Rus' article, but answered under completely different topic created by another person, which they associated with me for some reason. I created a new topic for them, where
			they continued to write me this :"'''There is also no mention of "Land of Rus" in Encyclopedia of Ukraine, and really, we should be using better sources than this. If this is based on the image, then this looks like synth. The other changes do not look like an improvement. For example, what is "the first Rus' people" supposed to mean? Also, changing "Vladimir the Great and Yaroslav the Wise tried to associate the name with all of the extended princely domains" to "the name was as well denoting all of the Kievan domains" changes the meaning'''". They continued to ignore the fact that the sentence below the image was sourced and I addressed them this. They also didn't know what Rus' people meant at different times, yet still addressed this as my issue. Seeing the lack of proper reasoning yet a persistent denial of my edits, I tried to ask for further details about why they see my changes as a WP:synth,, and also told them to not waste time of other editors with a minor nitpicking or because of their own dull understanding of a subject. Instead of giving me a further proper response, they wrote me this :"'' 'Since you are resorting to personal attacks once again, I have lost interest in discussing' ''".
			Then they headed to the Talk page of other administrator and began to complain :"'''Hi asilvering, I am still finding it impossible to discuss edits with Shahray, already less than a day after their block expired'''". I obviously noticed this and addressed their childish behavior and unwillingness to cooperate.
			Surprisingly, other administrator wrote this :"'''Nah, I think you're fine to go to ANI about it. They've been blocked twice for this already, and now they might be doing WP:LOUTSOCK stuff'''".
			] supported them and suggested to report me on notice board, with absolutely no evidence of my guilt given, giving me some further nonsensical accusations like "sock puppetary", even though I wrote all my messages to Mellk from my personal account. Furthermore, Asilvering ignored my comment and my concerns about Mellk and wrote:"'''Go ahead and use that reply above as evidence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯'''".
			Viewing this overall, a deliberate attempt to target me might take place, so I ask for a suggestion from you about how can we solve this situation and should Mellk receive a temporary block for a behavior they have been already warned about? Because they don't seem to want a peaceful solution and quickly drop out of the discussion after a few responses, persisting on deleting my changes at the same time. ] (]) 17:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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			=== Notifying people in an edit summary ===
			{{tpw}} I'm not sure if you meant to ] anyone in the edit summary with ]. I just wanted to pint out that it's possible, but you have to link the persons' userspace in the edit summary. So, if you wanted to notify me in an edit summary, you'd have to put in <nowiki>]</nowiki> somewhere within it. ] ] ] 20:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
			:It was intentional. ] 21:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
			::@], I believe this topic ban isn't justified enough, I explained the reason here . If you don't want to go into details or unban, then I ask you to at least adjust this ban for now so I can edit talk pages, and can ask community broadly regarding my changes. I don't think this should create any issues. Further editing is pointless without getting consensus first anyway. ] (]) 06:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::], I'm not involved in imposing this ban and unfortunately can't spare the time to review it, sorry. ] 07:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
			::::@], I know you shouldn't necessarily look into this, but it would be helpful if you make an adjustment that allows to edit talk pages, I don't think it wastes much time or is controversial. Admin who imposed this ban said they are "happy for other admins to make whatever adjustments they feel are reasonable". Cheers. ] (]) 08:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::::You misunderstand the admin who made that comment after saying "go straight to AE as described at ]". The admin is saying that the AE admins at ] will make adjustments they feel are reasonable. That does not apply to individual admins at their talk pages. El_C has made it clear that they are busy and you should post at ] if seeking an adjustment, not here. ] (]) 09:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
			== Twin Flames ==
			Thanks for the page protection and revdels. If you get a chance, there are two more IP edits that could use revdel too. ] (]) 21:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
			:Ugh, pattern recognition fail. :( ] '''Done'''<!-- Template:RFPP#done -->. ] 22:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
			== RE: Sarah Jama Page ==
			Good evening El C,
			I want to start off by thanking you for protecting the Sarah Jama page! It's badly needed. Also, I love the chipmunk pictures - I live near the Niagara Escarpment and one of my favourite things is hiking and finding all the wildlife on the trail, very much including quite a few chipmunks.
			I'm having a lot of difficulty with the page for Sarah Jama. I'll send you a link to the version I created, which has been repeatedly sabotaged:
			<nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Sarah_Jama&oldid=1254559532</nowiki>
			Some of my formatting isn't perfect, especially around dates for citations and so forth. But I think you'll agree that my content is objective, impartial, and well-substantiated.
			I see that you locked the page and required that extended confirmed users alone are allowed to make edits. While I applaud the protection, the problem is that the version implemented contains multiple very serious omissions, most notably MPP Sarah Jama's legislative work, which you'll see in my version, but not the page's current version.
			Any help will be much appreciated, I only want the truth to be represented.
			Pat ] (]) 01:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
			:Hello ]. Unfortunately, even if the edits (which I did not examine closely) are indeed {{tq|''objective, impartial, and well-substantiated}}'', that isn't pertinent to this action and also not for me to decide. The account restriction (to ]) is an arbitration remedy (], ]) that is meant as a ''technical'' limitation imposed by the ]. And not for me to decide even beyond that, per ]. So the edits being correct—which short of ] outright is sorta in the eye of the beholder—would not be seen as a mitigating factor. Well, to a point. Say you had a good record of well-sourced edits and were at ~450 edits (50 short of the XC tenure)... in that instance, I might manually upgrade your permissions (and most admins wouldn't even do that as we have so little discretion in that area). But you're ] at the time of writing, so not even close. So my suggestion would be for you to prioritize what you deem most pressing and formulate that through the ''''']''''' feature. Which is ''all'' you're allowed to do for this topic area until meeting the 30 days 500 edits requirement (]). Sorry I don't have better news for you, but that's just how the system has been set up over the years, mostly to avoid canvassing and brigading in some of these especially ]. Thank you. ] 03:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
			::], as an afterthought, you can see from a ''']''' (for the article ]) from earlier today that, for my part, I at least try to avoid topic area edits by un-tenured users from being rejected offhand simply on the basis of lacking that tenure. Like the editor in that request who effectively said: ''I agree with the edits and think they're good, but I still undid them for lacking the tenure'' (i.e. on that basis only). It does sometimes feel like I'm fighting a losing battle, though. But I still try. Yours, ] 09:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
			==Notice of a discussion I think you'd be interested in knowing about==
			Hey El C: I thought you might want to be aware of ] (which includes not just the linked to thread, but a much larger one further above on VP/WMF). In summary, it appears that the WMF is prepared to imminently disclose personally identifying information about volunteers in a controversial Indian court case, where a news agency is attempting to suppress Misplaced Pages's tertiary coverage of the content of secondary sources (which it considers unflattering) by going after a number of individual editors as defendants. In order to comply with court orders in the case, it seems the WMF is prepared to share this information in what a number of us consider a pretty seismically bad idea and a betrayal of community priorities and values (the WMF has also already used an office action to remove an article reporting on the case, at the direction of the court for what said court regards as legitimate ] reasons).
			While the deletion of the article has been framed by the WMF as temporary step to preserve appeal on the overall case, and there are mixed feelings in the community response as to that so far, there is a much more uniform opposition to throwing the individual editors (at least one of whom is located in India and has profound apprehension about what this could mean for his life with regard to litigation and beyond) under the bus. And yet the WMF appears to be prepared to share the information in question, as soon as Nov. 8. Can I impose upon you to take a look at the matter and share your perspective? '']]'' 00:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
			:Hey. I'm sorry, but whatever this is, it is summarized poorly. Particularly, I've yet to see where it is expressly stated that {{tq|''the WMF is prepared to imminently disclose personally identifying information''}}, as soon as Nov. 8, that could then be subject to possible discovery or leaking. Of crouse, I'd strongly oppose such a gross overreach and betrayal by the Foundation. And of course, I'd rather the Foundation as representing the English Misplaced Pages refuse to cooperate with that Indian court, even if that means letting India (with its mass number of English speakers) go by the wayside like Russia, China, Turkey, etc. If only to avoid the likely class-action suit ''in America'' that could spell the demise of the WMF and by extension, its flagship English Misplaced Pages project. But the facts of the matter are unclear (within the thousands of words) and my time is limited by necessity as of late, notwithstanding even the potential gravity of such a measure. ] 05:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
			::Well, as to the certainty that a disclosure is imminent that is driving so much of the concern just now, it comes from one of the involved editors/potential defendants, who reached out to Valereee with a series of posts they wished Val to deliver into the thread on their behalf. In those messages, this editor (anonymous to the broader community at the present time) disclosed that they have been in touch with the WMF over the last few days and that the current WMF plan seems to be to disclose the PII to the court on the 8th. So, not really much doubt at this moment in time, unfortunately. '']]'' 06:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::On her talk page or privately? Also, I just realized that the WPO's thread titled is about this. I've yet to look at that thread and didn't connect between ''Asian News International'' and India until now. Anyway, maybe that thread can offer a better summary. As mentioned, my time is very limited lately, but I'll try giving that thread at least a cursory read. Yours, ] 06:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
			::::That's all that can be asked, and then some, when I consider the general state of things at this moment. ;) '']]'' 07:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::::{{u|Snow Rise}}, I'm writing in haste, but in the interest of completeness, I've yet to read that thread, but I did find a ''Singpost'' summary (by way of WPO) '''].''' So I'm somewhat up to date, but {{u|Yngvadottir}}, help a brother out! I also found out that '']'' is considering a similar suit (you know, the leftists and shit), and guess which admin indef semi'd that page as ]? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ] 02:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
			::::::In response to ping, I was about to recommend that Wikipediocracy thread; if you can stand to wade through the bloviations from people like me, I think the informational posts there summarize the evolving situation, with links, better than anything else including the '']''. Sorry. ] (]) 02:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::::::Fair enough, will do. Thanks for taking the time and for the prompt response. Btw, you might not be as longwinded as Snow Rise (''*poke*''), but I rarely if ever fail to find it worthwhile reading (either of) your writings in full. But time, you know, a harsh mistress. Thanks again. Yours, ] 03:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
			== ] ==
			Could you please reinstate the page protection for this redirect? It went off two weeks ago, and the IP reversals have already started up again. Cheers --<span style="font-family:Courier">]</span> <small>(] · ])</small> 12:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
			:], the page you directly-linked is not a redirect, so all I have in front of me is the ] page that was never protected and was last edited 06:14, 5 July 2022. ] 01:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
			::Sorry, wrong link - I intended ]. --<span style="font-family:Courier">]</span> <small>(] · ])</small> 08:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::] ''']'''&#32;for a period of '''6 months''', after which the page will be automatically unprotected.<!-- Template:RFPP#semi --> ] 11:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
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			For a surprise, ] is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An ] open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --] (]) 21:07, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
			] relates to 2 meanings of 9 Nov, - imagine: I found a DYK I liked from 2006, before my time here. --] (]) 21:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
			I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - ] - ]. --] (]) 15:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
			I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang ] at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. He helped me in the Hebrew Misplaced Pages. --] (]) 18:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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			@], in ] you mentioned that ''the result was merge with an option to split in the near future''. Now after two years the articles ] and ] have been split specially that Mahsa Amini has received ]. But some users once again are determined to remove Mahsa Amini article because of personal and political reasons. They are wrongly going to merge article ] into ] whereas these articles need necessarily to be separated because both of them are notable and Mahsa Amin has received ]. I think a person who has received this important prize must have an article independently. Unfortunately some users are determined to remove her article just because of political reasons which is not acceptable in Misplaced Pages. Please help to stop merging these articles. ] (]) 19:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
			:Sorry, ], but I lack the spare time to give this even a cursory review right now, so I leave it to be decided by others. I notice you already posted ] <small>(])</small>, so however that concludes is fine with me. Thank you. ] 00:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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			== Page Protection (Talk:2024 United States presidential election) ==
			Hi El :) It was recommended that I reach out to you directly to request that you roll back the protection on ]. I understand protecting the main page and do not think that should change at the moment, but the talk page is becoming one-sided as a small handful of editors/administrators repeatedly shut down and archive certain topics, with outside voices being unable to even participate in the discussion. Thank you for your consideration. ] (]) 21:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
			:Hi. The protection expires in a couple of weeks anyway, but I'm alright with lifting it early, especially since the outcome is uncontested. ] '''Unprotected'''<!-- Template:RFPP#unpr -->. ] 05:34, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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Archived Discussions

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture ... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren  15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures!  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

4Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Rev-dels

Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Romania

I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

And all I got was a ^^^

• Talk:And Then There Were None#RfC: And Then There Were None and racial language
• Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Politics#Request for comments on the 'political position' parameter of the political party infobox
• Talk:Romania#RfC
• Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: HispanTV
• Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for adminship#Is RfX a vote, or a consensus discussion? (RfC)
• Talk:Civil Rights Act of 1968#Merger of Fair Housing Act and Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968 into this article
• Talk:WikiLeaks#RFC: Murder Of Seth Rich content dispute
• Talk:Athens News#Request for comment
• Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC: LavScam
• Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC: Change "white supremacist" to "white nationalist"

El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Nice. Thanks, Gerda! El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found and then is seems long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have  Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is , let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

February flowers

Alte Liebe

Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

At the ! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's corner

To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for tagging me, El_C! Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's February corner

Hellebore

Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Yay for Green Opa! This made my day! El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Till 120! El_C 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Birds of a feather

External videos
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)

Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Helleborus orientalis

happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR

@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Us

User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)

"You See Far, You See Clear"

"Us"

"I Want Us To Be Realized"

"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"

"You Put My Hand In Yours"

"A Place Of Worry"

What Is Love?

"How Is It That A Star"

"A Love Song (Like A Wheel)"

"Sitting On The Fence"

"Fragile"

"In Praise Of Samba"

"Where Are You?"

"Poogy Tales"

"Tell Me"

"There Were Nights"

"It Happens"

"Drawing"

"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"

Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda loves subsections!

Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Misplaced Pages. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems. Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

"making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Innisfree Garden

Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".

I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Misplaced Pages? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

"no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Guess what, BWV 1 and BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.

Did you know ...

... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?

(17 February 2021)

One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Play Bach

How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

(As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

"You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

"at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Psalm 12 when you have time - what happened? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

An edit request by Narky Blert

I have just set up an alternative account, Narky Blert (alt), so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, Narky Blert. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)

To comply with WP:ALTACC, I want to edit User:Narky Blert to add:

{{User alternative account name|Narky Blert (alt)}}

{{-}}

at the top, and

]

at the bottom. However, as a newly-registered user, I cannot. Could I ask you to do this for me?

As a token of good faith, I offer you "Bella ciao" - , which strikes me as right up your street. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. El_C 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

But you made it, that's the most important thing! I love you, bwo! El_C 17:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Prayer for Ukraine

I took a pic in 2009 that was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. - "Our" next psalm is Psalm 92, last week's, yesterday we had Psalm 91 but that - with the guardian angels is already covered, and I added compositions today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Wow, did you take that picture with a Nokia flip phone or something? I can count the pixels! (No NoPixel jokes, please! But yes latest music.) BTW, are you at all familiar with the teachings of Rabbi Nachman? El_C 11:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Misplaced Pages. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

See Nachman_of_Breslov#Teachings. Last bulletpoint: He emphasized importance of music for spiritual development and religious practice. His was probably the most philosophically sophisticated of the Hasidic Movement, now known as the Breslov (Hasidic group). Their Rosh Hashana kibbutz (annual pilgrimage to Uman, Ukraine) is a pretty big deal in both Israel and Ukraine. El_C 11:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, but was too busy yesterday. IWD today, so I decorated my talk showing two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Good stuff. Happy International Women's Day! El_C 18:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Wrote the translation of Anna Korsun to German, and began Zofia Kilanowicz, for the occasion. Sang an extra song for peace in rehearsal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

March songs

I listened to the charity concert mentioned here (on radio, it was soon sold out), and created the articles of the composer and the soprano. Alto to follow today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Do you think you could provide Psalm 92 (and then 14)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Nice. It's been a while since my last concert. Those Psalms look dunzo'd. El_C 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

How to listen? El_C 05:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

To that concert? I don't know, there was a lot of recording going on, but I don't know if for the public. - To Prayer for Ukraine? - see article. To the Frankfurt concert? - composer on the Main page now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

sorry about not having looked "down" enough for the psalms - yesterday was 27, also "dun". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

DunZO! Yeah, the latest (I'm caught up with the rest), too badzo. El_C 16:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset no cow--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Nice sunset, still, though! BTW, we've moved past cows. We're doing sloth wizards now. Catch up with the lore! El_C 04:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

on Bach's birthday: the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Happy BachDay! Wow, Evangelische Marktkirche in Wiesbaden looks like an intergalactic spaceship, with pillars. El_C 22:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

the place where Reger-Chor performed first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Very cool. It also looks like a spaceship from the outside, but with un-rounded corners. What a twist! El_C 22:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Well done! That deserves flowers (of peace (against all odds)). El_C 12:48, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Bach's No. 1 today for illumination --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Very nice, can't go wrong with the classics (classics). Funk No. 1, for yesterday's exaltation (today). El_C 16:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

thank you ;) - back to Psalm 14, it looked done but looking closer, I don't get why Hebrew is shorter, and has a different beginning, and the explanation is that it's not the complete but some sort of difference. Can you check that please? - Prayer for Ukraine: I heard it as "encore" after a live opera performance from Staatsoper Hannover, sung and played with heart by the complete ensemble. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Like. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. El_C 14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

thank you, exquisite voice today, heard on 11 March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

(unless you already do) please help watching the TFA Operation Mincemeat because the author is not active --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. El_C 12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Cool. Also, I love train conductors, too! RE: Watchlist, see: File:77,777.jpeg (btw, I've long surpassed 100K for some reason). El_C 13:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

now that's so funny: when I was about to pass 55.555 I decided that this was nonsense and began to reduce one by one, having reached 42k+ - this conductor leads an orchestra, but my grandfather was a train conductor --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Could you please do me a favour regarding Psalm 14: do the Hebrew in the normal fashion. What's there is a subset, has no verse numbers, - tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Double cool! Also, I definitely agree with you: train, orchestra conductors — basically the same thing, interchangeable. El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

What, never! El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I did the thing. El_C 13:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks re Myanmar

Hi El C, I know it was a while ago but I want to thank you for your patience with me on the Myanmar articles. I have a tendency to get flustered when coming under attack, so I made some mistakes when that happened with some new editors who happened to be from Myanmar. I have a lot of sympathy for their situation, though. I edit in that area because it's one of the most backwards regimes in the world but that gets very little attention. Anyway, thanks and happy holidays. 25stargeneral (talk) 18:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the belated reply, 25stargeneral, and thank you for your kind words, it means a lot. Happy hollidays to you, too! El_C 17:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm currently watching the top gear special in Myanmar. Happy Holidays El_C! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy Holidays to you, as well, my friend! El_C 17:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi I am back with a new name! I'm planning on focusing my work going forward more on content creation. I regret being at times insensitive in my approach to other editors in the Myanmar area, so I just wanted to ask, if you happen to notice me editing in a less-than-collaborative way, could you please give me a nudge in the right direction, even if it doesn't rise to anything actionable? I would greatly appreciate it. I will go through the normal channels from now on if there is something that I believe needs admin attention. TEMPO156 (talk) 18:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

	A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
	Have a great Christmas, and may 2024 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls, vandals or visits from Krampus! Cheers SchroCat (talk) 15:20, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks, SchroCat, merry Christmas and happy new year to you too! 🎅 El_C 08:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Norman Lear

Thank you for the page protection, could you please restore the infobox image, the IP changed it right before you set the protection. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 16:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

And you reverted 30 minutes prior to that. That's just the luck of the draw. El_C 17:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanx for supporting an editwaring IP. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

As opposed to an edit warring veteran editor? It takes two to edit war, and you do not get supremacy over an IP editor by virtue of being a veteran editor. So you can take your Wrong version complaint and sarcasm elsewhere. El_C 17:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm done here, you prob now. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Works for me, even though I don't understand what is meant by you prob now (what is a "prob"?). El_C 17:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I have tried to discuss this issue on the talk page, but I am met only with vague responses and rationalizations about why an obscure 1975 photo is somehow more appropriate. Instead user FlightTime seems to be giving off the feeling that he is superior and because "they said so" therefore the old photo must be sealed for eternity.

Are we serving the public on Misplaced Pages or our own interests? What would actually be more recognizable for the general public, a more recent photo of Mr. Lear (of which there are many, again just look at google image results), or a cropped and not easily identifiable one that some users are stubbornly insisting be used? 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 18:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I know you tried, IP. If you end up at an impasse on the talk page, you could always try seeking a Third opinion or even a more substantive Request for comment. HTH. El_C 18:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your considerate responses. 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 19:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

What would be the process for Third Opinion or Request for Comment should it come to that? 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 19:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I already linked it. El_C 19:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

European Economic Area

Hi. The EEA page keeps attracting some unwanted attention for the last month or so. I see that you've protected the page once already. Would it be possible to do it again? Budsalone (talk) 12:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 16:33, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Protection Saturday Night Live (season 49)

Looks like you put an extended autoconfirmed protection at Saturday Night Live (season 49) on the ground that it's related to the Arab-Israeli conflict because there was a minor edit war over whether to include the minor point that the role of Elise Stefanik in the Congressional hearing on Anti-semitism was originally given to Cecily Strong. I don't follow the logic.

The edit war had nothing to do with Anti-semitism per se, and absolutely nothing to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict. It should be noted that the article on the hearing in question is not protected at all. Please consider this a request to unprotect the article. Isabela ciao (talk) 17:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Isabela ciao, just because you fail to identify a connection does not make it absolutely this or that; nor am I interested in WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS whataboutism. That said, I'm not inherently opposed to unprotecting in a month or so, so feel free to remind me at that time. El_C 17:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Which Indonesia-related articles that are extended protected?

Are there any Indonesia related articles on Misplaced Pages that are extended-protected? JustYourImaginaryGuy (talk) 01:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure, JustYourImaginaryGuy. El_C 12:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

2023–24 Canadian network television schedule

Can I get a temporary protection for 2023–24 Canadian network television schedule like was done with 2023–24 United States network television schedule? As the vandalism by 81.25.78.185 is still continuing. Xeditboy (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, Xeditboy, I don't have time to review this at present, so please feel free direct your request to WP:RFPP/I. El_C 12:19, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Request for creation-unprotection for the 'Ashton irwin' article

Can you please unprotect the 'Ashton irwin' article (with a lowercase 'i') from creation so I can create a redirect for it to the 'Ashton Irwin' article (with an uppercase 'I')? PK2 (talk) 03:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Done. Downgraded to WP:ECP from WP:FULL. El_C 12:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Restore indefinite semi

Hi, El_C, greetings of the new year! Can you please restore indef-semi at Vikram Sampath? Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 12:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Done. And thanks, same to you. El_C 12:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

2024

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, all the best for the coming year. El_C 15:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! - The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new catalogue of his works was introduced, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

New pics, those cows again - click Year and go to bottom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

I have a DYK, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

I remember Ewa Podleś on the Main page, and the performance of Anna Nekhames, the article in which a reviewer found nothing interesting. Yesterday: Shalom chaverim. On vacation, - check places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Nicely done! Thanks for the updates. Hope you enjoy your vacation, and do I even need to say, take lot's of pics? El_C 20:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, enjoying, taking tons of pictured, 23 chosen for 23 Jan, 6 uploaded, too tired for more - on my talk you see that it's the birthday of Mozart and our conductor ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Today a friend's birthday, with related music and a few new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Could you please have a look into this?

Hi @El C

A user yesterday has made personal attacks against me aggressively, I brought the issue to the notice of administrators, one user happened to advice the user to strike out their personal comments on me, they still haven't done that. If possible, could you please look into this issue? -Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Aggressive attacks for starting a discussion on an article's talk page | Removal of template

Thank you :) Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Thewikizoomer, it looks like another admin is already attending to it, so I'm not sure what there is for me to do right now... El_C 09:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok @El C

I wasn't aware that another admin is attending it.

Thank you for your quick response :) Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Sure np, Thewikizoomer. Yeah, you replied to him 3 minutes before posting here. El_C 09:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey, long time no chat!

Hi El C! Do you know what's up with Jeremy Dewitte as of late? Outside of his arrest in 2022, I haven't heard anything... :-) ~Oshwah~ 06:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey. No, no idea. Maybe he's finally staying outta trouble (unlikely). Good to see you, though. Don't be a stranger! El_C 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Follow up on disruptive LTA

A while back I made this post on ANI regarding a long term disruptive user-.

Unfortunately they're back at it again with their trolling and nonsense with two different ranges-this 93.36 range and this 93.32 range. Look at some of his most recent edits- + + . I was hoping these two ranges could also be blocked for persistent vandalism. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I take it this was resolved at ANI...? El_C 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey, unfortunately the user is back again with a different range. I filed a report at ANI but if you could look into it that would be great-. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Southasianhistorian8, sorry, what is the link? El_C 22:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

FYI

Hello, El C,

Regarding Indie soul, just a reminder that when you draftify an article from main space to Draft space, the remaining redirect needs to be deleted as a CSD R2. You can either delete it yourself or tag it for speedy deletion and an admin who patrols CSD categories can take care of it.

Thanks and have an awesome weekend! It's going to be frigid here in the Northwest U.S.. Liz 02:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot. But will do, thanks for the reminder. Hope you have a great weekend, too, Liz. Keep warm! El_C 03:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Block of ASmallMapleLeaf

I believe this is quite an inappropriate block since blocks are preventative and not punitive. With the specific incivility and personal attacks aside, I don't see a reason for why they would continue to be disruptive outside that specific instance. I would have agreed more if a temporary block was issued at that time instead. What do you think? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 05:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Also, on the 7th edit crux you mentioned at their talk page, I think getting involved in administrative noticeboards while the account is new isn't an issue in and of itself. Well, they aren't new to our WP:P&Gs, but I don't see that as a reason to believe that they would cause further disruption. Though I don't see it as necessary, a namespace block from WP/WT instead of a full indef would have been less BITE-y. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 05:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree. I think that being as abrasive (as presented in the extensive evidence) by seemingly starting an aggressive anti-UNBLOCKABLES mission in one's 7th edit is what's inappropriate. And I continue to challenge that, absent an explanation, it is suspect. But feel free to take to the matter a wider forum. El_C 06:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

As well, I believe that your position—presenting this user in the same breath as both new (i.e. BITE-y) and an experienced user (i.e. aren't new to our WP:P&Gs)—is both inconsistent and sets a bad standard. About the conduct and direction from new-not-new users. El_C 06:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

A little bit inconsistent, I would agree, but knowing how to cite policies and guidelines doesn't mean they are not a new user. From the comments they have made it doesn't appear to me that they have the same style of argument experienced users make. Perhaps they picked up some of the experienced-isque elements from reading internal discussions and policy pages, but they still appear new to me. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 06:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I've started a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrative action review#Block of ASmallMapleLeaf (hopefully that venue isn't dead) 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 06:43, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Copy that. El_C 06:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

They've now asked to be unblocked on their talk page. What are your thoughts on it? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 03:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

This is your only warning; if you constructively do admin tasks again, like you did at Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection, you may be given a barnstar without further warning. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Oops!... I Did It Again. El_C 09:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Overhumility

People whose English is inelegant don't use the word "inelegant". ―Mandruss ☎ 22:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

We request the pleasure of your company for a free exchange of ideas. El_C 22:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Homer Simpson: one of history's great philosophers. ―Mandruss ☎ 23:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Re: Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1961

The two intermediate IP edits from 194.125.77.219 should probably be revdel'd as well, because they currently allow some of the problematic changes to be seen. - Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 05:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks Sumanuil. El_C 05:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Revert Reason

Hi, El_C,

Just wanted to clear it up, the reason I reverted here was not because it wasn't an inline citation, it was because of WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING where an RfC came to the consensus that SimpleFlying is not a reliable source and should not be used in articles. Just wanted to clear that up.

Thanks! VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

This was already settled by the time you've written the above, VenFlyer98. Can we move on? El_C 17:51, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

I wasn’t trying to start anything again, I was literally just explaining myself since you initially responded that the source was good and wanted to make sure my reasoning was understood. Was just explaining myself, I already moved on…

Have a good one. VenFlyer98 (talk) 19:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

You started by explaining to the IP how to cite inline, so I thought that meant you viewed their source as good. Otherwise why would you open with that and not with: 'sorry, it's a bad source, but if you have a good one, you do is this way'? So, yeah, I missed the second part, WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING, which probably read like gibberish to me late last night. Coastie43's quoting it in full (with words), Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#SimpleFlying — that by contrast was immediately readable to me. Anyway, this entire conversation just seems so needless. But no biggie. See ya. El_C 20:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. SwiftFan2024 (talk) 19:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@SwiftFan2024: left a note there, though that report was already closed. But you could have asked me about it at any time, and I'd have explained why semi was chosen over pc (or any other protection level). Oh well. Well, now you know. El_C 04:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

February music

story · music · places

My calendar story today is about Michael Herrmann celebrating his birthday. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I applaud your efforts. Another legend gone. R.I.P. El_C 21:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. - I put some effort now into the article for Ladislav Burlas, marked ready last day WP:ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Nice, yeah for sure. That page was already  Posted, though. TTYS. El_C 04:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for trying! - The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Will do, thanks for the recommend. I'm away for a bit, but hopefully will be back in a few weeks. Talk to you then. All the best, El_C 16:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Turkey

Прошу снизить уровень защиты страницы. Making signs (talk) 17:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Ivan Katchanovski's deletion

Deletion review for Ivan Katchanovski

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ivan Katchanovski. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Alaexis_¿question? 13:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

You usually go straight to DRV without discussion, Alaexis? That's a thing that you do? El_C 18:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

This is the first deletion review I've initiated in a long time (possibly ever). I didn't notice the instructions which are under the 15-item list of cases in which DRV should and shouldn't be used. Will definitely do this next time. Cheers! Alaexis_¿question? 22:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

I see. Please note, though, that this is a general maxim (of WP:CLOSECHALLENGE) that goes beyond the realm of deletion discussions. And it's just common sense, because I could have made the arguments that the two participants have made in the DRV discussion (both endorse) right here, you could have responded, etc. But you never gave such discussion a chance. The reasoning is that I might have convinced you of my position, thus, you could have spared the extra work for the folks at DRV. HTH. El_C 22:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Spam-only accounts, cont'd

Hi El C, a couple of days ago you blocked two spammer accounts that I reported to ANI. Well today they are back again under a new name, 'Bharatbarsha'. Could you have a look at it? Thanks in advance! — AP 499D25 (talk) 13:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Blocked indefinitely. Lucky, you got me right as I'm out the door. TTYS. El_C 13:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#"<redacted>""-20240223061600">

The edit summary of CapnJackSps latest 4 reverts might also need to be redacted. Nobody (talk) 06:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)""> "">

Damn, I thought I got em all. Done. Thank you! El_C 06:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

About your comment on ANI

I saw your response on ANI. I probably should have clarified, but when I said about bringing your block of Bobak to XRV, I meant you yourself bringing it there if you were concerned it would be against consensus (Which as of now it is not). I am aware my suggestion could have come accross as 'anyone can/should bring it to XRV', which was not what I was attempting to state and definitely not attempting or encouraging others to do so.

I sincerely apologise. ASmallMapleLeaf (talk) 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see. But no need to apologize, though I appreciate it. It's just a rather obscure venue that is used seldom and not many know about. Take care. El_C 16:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, in my pre-coffee state, I might have conflated you with A smart kitten, who was actively involved in that discussion (you were of course the user whose block was being reviewed there at the time) — shh, don't tell anyone! El_C 16:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Apology for reverting good faith edits

@El C You reverted my edits here a while ago, and I did not notice until now. I thought that IP was subtly vandalizing, but I have now just realized that I misread the sentence multiple times and did not realize that IP was trying to fix a grammatical error. I apologize for the foolish edits I made and am sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you, ItsCheck (talk) 00:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Sure, ItsCheck, but please make sure you learn from this, by double and triple checking your edits, and by treating any given IP editor in good faith until proven otherwise. Because obviously changing "married with two children" into "married to two children" in a biography of a living person is a very serious violation. Thanks for reaching out. El_C 16:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Of course. I thought it was the other way around, so that is why I did it. ItsCheck (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Conflict of interest management: Case opened

Hello El C,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 20, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

For the Arbitration Committee,
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Question

In regards to your response on my request for page protection how would you recommend I go about initiating a discussion with an IP user who's IP is different every time they edit? skarz (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

On the article talk page, which stays the same regardless. El_C 17:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

What I'm saying is doesn't it seem pointless to attempt to communicate with an individual who's sole purpose is to return to an account and revert my edit, each time from a different IP? Or perhaps it's a group of people since the IPs are in fact unique? skarz (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't know about any of that (not mentioned at the protection request), but what I do know is that the article talk page has not been meaningfully used by anyone since 2016. HTH. El_C 18:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Being Fired Upon Over Contributions

Hi

I could really use your input at ANI: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents "Editor Lau737 "contributions."

Best regards Lau737 (talk) 11:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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Destiny

See also: User:El C/Songs from new lands, User:El C/Songs from the homeland

A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Oceanic feeling

Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Lyrics:

(Intro) Somehow I found myself here today Awakened to these thoughts and feelings Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming? A strange sort of spherical sensation With an overwhelming sense of apprehension An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon So far beyond our reach Where consciousness coalesces Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds The streaming runs of thought goes 'Round and 'round and 'round Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down And the earth bows down in reverence Lest it should be torn to pieces And blown into oblivi-essence And all who live will run and hide And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of One's own mind But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind You'll find that everyone is everyone And everything is everything (Verse one) Open up Your hearts and minds 'Cause I remember Nothing One day now It all falls down But love must keep on Loving So start the show Here we go (Chorus) Dark to light The day from night A roll of a mountain A rip in the sky Turning the dust to flesh And ashes to breath A pull of a muscle A pin in the eye An initial spark To get this heart of mine pumping And another To get these feet of mine running But sadly they've just taken me To a place Where all is devoid Of your embrace So baby now we're falling Baby now you're falling Baby yeah, yeah Baby now we're falling, baby yeah Tripping and tumbling Flipping and fumbling Flowing on the rivers of sadness That have been forever rumbling But from dawn until now Of all the paths that I could have gone down Of all the valleys That I could have been flowing through In spite of all the chaos And all that has come between us How is it I still find myself Here with you (Outro) So somehow we find ourselves here today A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming A strange sort of spherical sensation An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon And all of us, we run and hide Do what we've done since the dawn of time Peering out through the beating rain The pounding wind Everyone is everyone And everything is everything

Serrado. El_C 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Memories of Spain

Tomatito & Michel Camilo (2000)

Hooni (2012)

Olivier Castellat (2010)

Stevie Wonder (2008 live)

Gary Valenciano (2017 vocals)

Chick Corea and Return to Forever (1973 original) / Live performance (date unknown, but laterer)

El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Resting: a compilation

Flite — El_C 10:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Void — El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

WhipTail — El_C 10:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Posição — El_C 10:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Feel Free — El_C 02:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

On Sight — El_C 10:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

The return of Remix surfing

Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Golden — El_C 09:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Mozalounge — El_C 20:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorrow — El_C 13:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Be With You — El_C 14:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Everybody Knows — El_C 10:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Butterfly — El_C 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Guilty Pleasure — El_C 09:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Blue Bossa — El_C 15:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Legend — El_C 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Who — El_C 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Losing My Way — El_C 15:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Love Forever — El_C 16:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Brother to Brother — El_C 01:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

'Round Midnight — El_C 06:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Close Your Eyes — El_C 18:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar

Whipping Post→Mountain Jam — El_C 23:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Into the Sun — El_C 14:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

April — El_C 14:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Desire And The Comforter — El_C 04:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Fire on the Mountain — El_C 12:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

A Go Go — El_C 14:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Broken Promised Land — El_C 15:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Mediterranean Sundance / Rio Ancho — El_C 18:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Eternity's Breath, Pt. 1, Pt. 2 — El_C 21:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Say the Brother's Name — El_C 22:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Drifting — El_C 22:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The Epic — El_C 05:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Little Wing — El_C 13:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Bold As Love — El_C 13:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement), Tina S

Reba, Brother, Glide, Rift — El_C 22:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

How Insensitive (Wes Montgomery), Pat Martino, Grant Green — El_C 02:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

White Rabbit — El_C 13:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Telegraph Road — El_C 21:47, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Yours Is the Light — El_C 23:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Burning Bridges → Mudmen — El_C 13:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

16/16 — El_C 03:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Achilles Last Stand — El_C 12:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

La Grange — El_C 03:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

White Room — El_C 00:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Tupelo (Albert King, Pops Staples, Steve Cropper), JLH — El_C 00:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Soul — El_C 03:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

My Inspiration — El_C 12:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Our Spanish Love Song — El_C 20:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Change of Life — El_C 02:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Reunion — El_C 12:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Montevideo — El_C 02:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 02:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Treacherous Cretins (studio), Copenhagen (1979) — El_C 12:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Arabia→Hasta Siempre, Comandante→Arabia — El_C 20:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Dark Star — El_C 16:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Tangled Up in Blue — El_C 02:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Face to Face (masks save lives) — El_C 13:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Bossa — El_C 22:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Under the Milky Way — El_C 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Wish You Were Here (studio), Pulse — El_C 02:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Albert's Shuffle, His Holy Modal Majesty — El_C 14:09, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Cārukeśī, Sunset Road (studio) / Sunset Road (Live Art) — El_C 09:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Gimme Shelter — El_C 17:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

The Great Gig in the Sky (Pulse) — El_C 20:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Eyes of The World — El_C 03:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Morning Dew — El_C 14:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Sky → Kind of Bird — El_C 18:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm Troubled → Been All Around This World — El_C 14:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (JHB) — El_C 14:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

La Sirena — El_C 12:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

The Landlady — El_C 12:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Dope-A-Licious — El_C 00:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Air

Unveiled — El_C 15:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Portia — El_C 23:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

El Niño — El_C 00:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Jungle Strut — El_C 09:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Dialogos → San Lazaro — El_C 16:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Love Has Come Around — El_C 13:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

In a Sentimental Mood — El_C 14:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Rondo à la Turk — El_C 22:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

La Fiesta — El_C 10:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, It Has No Chance (etc.) — El_C 12:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Skin — El_C 13:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Manhã de Carnaval — El_C 21:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Dawn: Dawn Is A Feeling — El_C 11:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

In My Own Way — El_C 19:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Caged Bird — El_C 10:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Around the Bend — El_C 15:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

House of the Rising Sun — El_C 00:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Prism #1 — El_C 11:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Water

Deep down → Secret Blue — El_C 18:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Familiar — El_C 05:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Feel It All Around — El_C 11:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

What If This Storm Ends? — El_C 18:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Promise — El_C 23:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Breathless — El_C 09:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Waves — El_C 17:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Power of Love → Vision is a Naked Sword — El_C 00:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Running Away — El_C 11:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever) — El_C 23:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Jack-A-Roe — El_C 11:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Fall songspam

All Along the Watchtower — El_C 04:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh My God! — El_C 00:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Poetry — El_C 12:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Paroles, paroles ("Words, words") — El_C 02:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Ebatule — El_C 14:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Europa (Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile) — El_C 00:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Booty Step — El_C 11:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Gymnopédie No. 1 → Arabesque No. 1 — El_C 10:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Raat Ne Main Baandhi Chhe — El_C 15:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Reza, Meu Bem — El_C 23:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Because — El_C 12:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Noite Longa — El_C 18:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Voce Me Apereceu — El_C 05:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Lodger → It Starts When We Disappear — El_C 15:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

One More Day — El_C 00:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Sing Song Kitty → Bonaparte's Retreat — El_C 11:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Girls Love Kehlani → Table El_C 01:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Kkwy — El_C 01:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Convoy — El_C 15:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Black Water (studio) → Live (1974) — El_C 08:53, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Summertime → The House of the Rising Sun — El_C 13:40, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Bossa Esfera — El_C 13:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Down Man — El_C 13:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

The High Road — El_C 02:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Found You — El_C 14:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Quero ver — El_C 01:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Raag Gawati (Dhan Dhan Bhag Hamare) — El_C 17:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I Adore You — El_C 13:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Angola Anthem — El_C 18:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Dopesnotfunkae — El_C 21:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Descarga for Tito — El_C 18:28, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Positive Notions — El_C 02:10, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

One — El_C 14:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Secret Sun — El_C 21:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Back Where It All Begins — El_C 14:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Riflessività — El_C 03:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Title 1 → 2 → 3 → 4 — El_C 16:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Tudo Que Você Podia Ser — El_C 13:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Necessary Discrepancy — El_C 13:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Way Star — El_C 09:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Lament — El_C 15:09, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Lovely Day — El_C 14:00, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Alter Ego — El_C 11:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

עמוד האש — El_C 13:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Won't Pray Adagio → Angel's Serenade — El_C 20:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

The Distance — El_C 18:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Toxic — El_C 12:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm the Man Who Loves You → Poor Places — El_C 07:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Money Trees (original) → Sembari Edit → DJ Dahi & DJ Rahki: Sample masters — El_C 20:19, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Creation & Destruction — El_C 14:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Fuck the System — El_C 22:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Esperar Pra Ver — El_C 10:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

New Coat Of Paint — El_C 12:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

The Ecstasy of Gold — El_C 13:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

One Way — El_C 13:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

A Little Less Conversation — El_C 15:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Power in the Darkness — El_C 18:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

תמונה → Guitar — El_C 15:12, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Smokestack Lightning — El_C 11:42, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Ann River, Mn → Bibio Remix — El_C 10:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Mirror Temple — El_C 01:37, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Zoiks — El_C 15:24, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Tuyo — El_C 14:56, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Exogenesis: Symphony Pt. 1 (Overture) — El_C 13:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Lotus Land → A Lotus On Irish Streams — El_C 12:02, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Romance del Diablo — El_C 13:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Enemy → (Worlds 2021 version → Radio edit → Orchestral/instrumental) → Guns for Hire → Goodbye — El_C 10:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Floral Fury — El_C 18:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Waking Up → VIP Extended Mix — El_C 10:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Solução Edit — El_C 13:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

אפילו דקה → Trem das Onze — El_C 14:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Knives Out — El_C 16:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Child in Time — El_C 01:16, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Free Bird (extended studio) — El_C 12:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Nobody Speak → Nobody Move — El_C 11:53, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Be Alright (Live at One Love Manchester) — El_C 11:39, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Victory Theme (SHADOWFOX2 Remix) → Funk Fiction Remix — El_C 14:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Everywhere at the End of Time (Nexpo 4-min summary) → Full album (6.5 hours) — El_C 02:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Intimidated — El_C 15:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Seoul — El_C 11:24, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Fiona — El_C 14:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Sun — El_C 14:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Parole parole — El_C 15:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Breathe (2 AM) (Live) — El_C 13:11, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Dodole — El_C 16:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Sacred Moment → Ammonia Clouds — El_C 11:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Enemy (guitar heavy) — El_C 11:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Every Day Is Exactly the Same (Acoustic cover) → Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix — El_C 12:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

After You — El_C 16:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Estate — El_C 11:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Prelude → Victory Fanfare (Evil Needle X OriJanus Remix) — El_C 13:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Winter Nights

Winter Nights (full album): Greensleeves → Inverno — El_C 05:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Ready To Fly — El_C 13:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Sunny (Papik w Wendy Lewis) → Francesco Cofano Remix → w Peter De Girolamo (instrumental) → Bobby Hebb original — El_C 10:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Crazy — El_C 05:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Crazy — El_C 20:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

The Hanukkah Waltz →Christmas Oratorio (BVW 248 #41, Aria (tenor)) — El_C 14:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Since I've Been Loving You — El_C 21:49, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Lupin — El_C 02:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Une Sulased → Kiik Tahab Kindaid — El_C 18:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

The Star Spangled Banner — El_C 00:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Wonderland — El_C 10:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Souffles H (Souffle Your Wig) — El_C 17:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

2 Hearts Together (Absolute Contrast) — El_C 10:20, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Este Amor — El_C 17:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Samba De Luar — El_C 11:53, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Can't Hide Love — El_C 03:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Nice & Slow — El_C 12:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Living For The Night — El_C 13:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

In The Morning — El_C 06:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Nos Vida — El_C 20:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

One Dream — El_C 12:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Secret of the Forest (Flite) → Jordan Chin → Contraband Reloaded → Kara Comparetto — El_C 07:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Grand Central Boogie — El_C 22:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

No Mercy → Instrumental — El_C 01:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Delight → Slow Down El_C 05:24, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Head Over Heels → Sowing the Seeds Of Love — El_C 13:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Surrender — El_C 10:32, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

No Stress →Get Down → Human Nature → Dreamy → Flowers — El_C 11:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

The Well-Tempered Clavier, Prelude 1 in C Major (BWV 846) — El_C 10:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Concerto No. 2 in F Minor, Op. 21: I. Maestoso — El_C 23:10, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I Put A Spell On You — El_C 09:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

High Tide — El_C 02:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

פרדי על הבוקר — El_C 07:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Decisions (AM Intro) → You Could Be (ft. George Riley) → Quest Select (AM Outro) — El_C 15:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Slavery Days → I And I Survive — El_C 12:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Dare — El_C 16:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Kiss from a Rose (Heidi Jutras) → Joe McBride → Trinití → David Simmons, Jr. — El_C 16:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Kiss from a Rose (studio version) → Rick explains (feat. Seal) — El_C 13:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Crazy — El_C 15:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Deepstar — El_C 11:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

All By Myself (Glee) → w David Foster — El_C 15:29, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Infralow — El_C 13:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Jericho — El_C 12:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I Guess You Get What's Coming — El_C 18:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (acoustic, live 1992) → Studio version → Fillmore East, 1971 — El_C 15:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Open Up → Open Up (Reimagined) — El_C 00:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Keep Me In Mind — El_C 11:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Yellow Moon (w John Hiatt & Herbie Hancock) — El_C 01:01, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

True Faith — El_C 16:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

בא אלייך בלילה El_C 14:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

The Theme That Got Left in the Car — El_C 10:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Lotus Feet → India — El_C 10:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Revival — El_C 00:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Unfuckwitable — El_C 09:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Breathing — El_C 11:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Prune Gang Revival Tour → Darkseid / FULL (Soundcloud) — El_C 05:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Gleam → Glim → Mystic — El_C 13:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Bullets — El_C 10:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Them Changes — El_C 19:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Thoughts — El_C 15:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Eyesdown → U Just R — El_C 03:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

A New Life — El_C 21:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Press Garden Zone — El_C 15:34, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Fish — El_C 17:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll Find My Way — El_C 07:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Lean On — El_C 10:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Weird Bed — El_C 03:39, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Hope Springs E

Morning Dew — El_C 00:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Delight Earth — El_C 10:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Funk No.1 — El_C 12:53, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Children Of The World — El_C 05:42, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child — El_C 22:02, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Lay Down — El_C 14:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Colorless — El_C 16:13, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Viva L'amore — El_C 02:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Riviera Paradise El_C 10:53, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Plexus — El_C 13:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Virtual Insanity (Wilson remix) — El_C 12:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Time Paradox (Choma41 final mix) — El_C 01:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Love and Happiness — El_C 16:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

& — El_C 10:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Shake Down — El_C 10:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Fingerflowing — El_C 11:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

The Cat Came Back — El_C 10:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

In the Morning of the Magicians — El_C 22:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Mellow → Voyage — El_C 11:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

The Search for Optimism — El_C 13:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

On The Move — El_C 15:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Transmissionnn → Txt (MSGS) — El_C 10:41, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Phenomenal → To Forgive (Letting Go Is Hard) — El_C 18:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Gypsy Woman — El_C 22:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Guardian Angel — El_C 13:56, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Looking for the Sun → Cheers! — El_C 15:46, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

לך תזדיין (Go Fuck Yourself) — El_C 11:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Heartbreak In Paradise — El_C 12:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Jessica — El_C 22:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

You Enjoy Myself — El_C 12:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Stash — El_C 15:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Nsu Na Kwan (Water and Stone) — El_C 21:49, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

The Magic — El_C 12:29, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Twilight Voyage — El_C 18:15, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Dear And Soul — El_C 13:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Far Away → L'Uomo Invisible (The Invisible Man) — El_C 12:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Wolf Totem — El_C 14:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Jell-O — El_C 12:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

My Name Is James (Soundcloud) — El_C 12:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Time solo → Another Brick In The Wall solo → Comfortably Numb solo — El_C 14:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

And the livin' is EZ

Comfortably Numb (Sophie Lloyd) → Shorts shorts (shorts) ←Shut up, me! — El_C 00:57, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

First Day Of Summer — El_C 13:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Brazilian Summer — El_C 19:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Valse triste (Sad Waltz), Op. 44 — El_C 17:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

No Turning Back — El_C 14:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Come Together — El_C 17:52, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Miles Away — El_C 23:37, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Tuesday — El_C 14:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Can't Hide Love — El_C 14:29, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Noche de San Juan → Pra Joao → Yoruba → Semblanza de un Gigante — El_C 14:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Children Say → La Mer → Sound Of Blue → People Have A Right Of Pursuing Happiness — El_C 14:23, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Ready To Freak → When Are You Gonna Tell Your Woman (About Me)? / Sign of the Times — El_C 16:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

El Mechánico — El_C 11:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Anomalous Hedges — El_C 14:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

The Runaway (Icon West Remix) — El_C 16:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Where Did The Time Go? → Time's Blur — El_C 17:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Turn On Your Love Light — El_C 19:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Going Home — El_C 01:31, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Severance (title sequence) — El_C 19:14, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Diz pra Mim (Tell Me) — El_C 15:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Reminisce — El_C 17:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

怨恨白昼夢 — El_C 03:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Falleaves

Autumn — El_C 02:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Let's Get Blown — El_C 16:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Rest → Reset — El_C 22:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Trip to the Stix — El_C 16:43, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Blunt — El_C 18:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

It Will Work Out — El_C 10:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Festa Cante — El_C 01:56, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Into the Fire → Into the Fire (Combat) — El_C 15:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Just a Feeling — El_C 16:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Fallin' (Francesco Cofano Remix) — El_C 05:55, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

It's Not My Cross To Bear — El_C 16:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

A Man and a Woman (Extended Mix) — El_C 00:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Name Your Price — El_C 19:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

The Water's Fine! — El_C 23:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Midnight Rider — El_C 07:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

One Thing Leads to Another (Extended Version) — El_C 07:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Tabula Rasa — El_C 16:42, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

paradise — El_C 15:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

History — El_C 04:04, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

bossa uh → i'll be okay — El_C 17:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Chrono Suite — El_C 09:24, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Intelligent Design — El_C 03:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo — El_C 00:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Brasil — El_C 19:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Flowers — El_C 01:28, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Local Forecast → +tempo — El_C 00:00, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Into the Ether — El_C 07:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Mirrors — El_C 06:36, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Rise — El_C 18:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Hopeless Romantic — El_C 17:46, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Dream On (Morgan James) — El_C 15:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

FTW — El_C 17:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Dreamin — El_C 14:32, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Pleasure — El_C 05:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

A Hazy Shade of Winter

Hazy Shade of Winter (Radio Edit) — El_C 22:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Golden Hour — El_C 21:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Money, Money, Money (Joel Dickinson Remix Radio Edit) — El_C 03:31, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Rites Of Passage — El_C 18:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Pumped (Pumping the House All Night Long Extend-o-mix) — El_C 11:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I Remember — El_C 10:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Babydoll — El_C 08:04, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Spring springs

Brucia La Terra — El_C 01:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

It Was a Very Good Year — El_C 22:22, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Chess — El_C 04:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

CSGO Theme (Official) → (VMU Chamber Orchestra) → (Johnny Hua) — El_C 07:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Light Velocity — El_C 06:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Apho (feat. Bongeziwe Mabandla) ← Variables → BC — El_C 09:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Lady (Hear Me Tonight) — El_C 10:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Sonic Boom — El_C 13:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Rolling Star (Yuri's Mixx) — El_C 06:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Above the Clouds — El_C 14:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Set Me Free — El_C 14:19, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Twenty Twenty Four

Bright Purity — El_C 15:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

My Star — El_C 21:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Xiaoyu Stage → Xiaoyu Carnival (Quick Mix) — El_C 18:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Balatro — El_C 06:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Ordinary Things: "The Evil Business of 2021" (December 31, 2021). El_C 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Ordinary Things: "The Bankrupt Business of 2022" (December 31, 2022). El_C 01:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

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Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will not be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

So much good music! River Man in particular is always a favourite of mine. Jr8825 • Talk 19:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

//bows El_C 12:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

March flowers

story · music · places

in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

... and the premiere of Nabucco - I always wanted to go to that theatre where Idomeneo premiered, and they played Mozart! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Booksellers let's go! El_C 18:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Especially booksellers who give a peace prize. I was there when Amoz Oz reveived it. - Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. Dona nobis pacem - give us peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

♬♫♪♩ Very nice. That rendition of the Little solemn Mass really took me places. ♩♪♫♬ El_C 05:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

love to hear that! - vacation pics uploaded (back home), at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Some days later, a calf in the mist (for you to pet) and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

How to request recusals

El C one day I'd like to better understand what caused your loss of trust in Arbcom because that has been apparent to me for quite some time. For now though I thought I would point you to where the policy for how to request recusals lives. Barkeep49 (talk) 10:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Liberland

Could you reduce the protection level on this page? The problem-causing user has been indeffed and I’d like to be able to edit the article. Dronebogus (talk) 01:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Before making substantive edits, I'd recommend taking a good look at the talk page discussions, including those concerning a proposed new draft. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

In any case, the protection has now expired. El_C 20:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Arbcom appeal for SwissArmyGuy

Just like I did this before, but I have to appeal SwissArmyGuy (talk · contribs) for wrongdoing, instead of email at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1034#User:SwissArmyGuy keeps asking for my social media accounts and refuses to tell me why. But I opted Kingerikthesecond for asking their social media accounts, but it is cogent and coherent answers to a number of questions. Recently but I have to do something right, and please let me appeal as a clean start. 95.73.84.105 (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Do not mention me or talk to me ever again. I want nothing to do with you. --KingErikII (Talk page) 16:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) SwissArmyGuy, El C's block was taken over by the Arbitration Committee. You need to email them if you want to appeal; it cannot be made onwiki or towards El C. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 16:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Not even the ArbCom can do this as the account is globally locked; they will need to appeal to stewards@wikimedia.org. Black Kite (talk) 09:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Notification of arbitration enforcement sanction

There is an arbitration enforcement discussion at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Interstellarity concerning you. If you wish to comment, you may comment there. Interstellarity (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Not just black and white!

Thanks for defending my yellowness there  :) "They call him Mellow Yellow"... ——Serial Number 54129 18:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

There can only be one. Don't Eat the Yellow Snow! El_C 18:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

My Declined Requests At RFPP

You declined 4/5 of my RFPP requests? Why? You said "Pages are not protected preemptively" but GS/RUSUKR says "If a page (other than a "Talk:" page) mostly or entirely relates to the topic area, broadly construed, this restriction is preferably enforced through extended confirmed protection," and "Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area".@El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

@Me Da Wikipedian: per WP:PREEMPTIVE, there needs to be recent issues before protecting. The last edit in one of the pages you nominated was 9 months ago, so that is quite Stale. El_C 00:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Would this qualify? @El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

How about this@El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

@Me Da Wikipedian: those would not. We're looking for days or a couple of weeks at most. For the most part, anything that's in the weeks or months would not qualify. El_C 00:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

If added 3 more requests do those work @El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Help needed

Hello El C, having some problems here. I wanted to remedy my mistake (missing }}, but apparantly there is the new link to about.com which I never made. Would you be so kind as to take a closer look ? Thank you ever so much. Cheers Lotje (talk) 12:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Not sure, not seeing any relevant new filters or new additions to the blacklist (local or global). Maybe ask at WP:VPT or WP:EFN. Should have some more tech-inclined folks than myself who can shed light on this. HTH. El_C 17:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Rationale for extending extended-confirmed protection to the entire World Central Kitchen article?

Hi. I'm not very familiar with the custom of topic-based page protections. The policy states "all pages broadly related to a topic, as well as parts of other pages that are related to the topic". The page was already partially protected in regards to any information regarding the incident in Gaza, and there has been no vandalism.

Is this the norm of topic-based protections? E.g. it is not banned to edit the article Legality of conversion therapy because of the "gender-related contentious topics; or the biography of Wang Zhi'an merely because it contains information about him criticising Falun Gong. I was about to add some information regarding past World Central Kitchen responses to natural disasters. Y. Dongchen (talk) 01:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. First, protection that is WP:PREEMPTIVE is against the norms (not sure if that's clear to you). As for this arbitration-enforcement sanction regime (the WP:PIA topic area) its WP:ECR requirement is split into two types of affected pages: "primary articles," which represent a permanent and close connection to the topic area, and "related content", whose connection is temporary and/or lesser. But as for the examples you pointed to above, neither WP:ARBFLG nor WP:ARBGS feature the ECR requirement. Still, in a broader sense, if a dispute pertaining to any applicable topic area becomes acute on any page, that sanction regime could be invoked (and regardless if it's a community-authorized or Arbitration Committee-authorized one). HTH. El_C 02:54, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. So as I understand it from the WP:PIA page, you applied ECR as you deem World Central Kitchen to be a "primary article" under that regime? I would appreciate a confirmation. Thanks again for the explanation. Y. Dongchen (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

No, it's not primary, it's related, because that organization is active elsewhere in the world, like Ukraine. If it was only focused on its Gaza mission, then it would be deemed primary. El_C 03:36, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah okay. Then can you please remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page? The WP:PIA "area of conflict" is defined as

4) For the purposes of editing restrictions in the ARBPIA topic area, the "area of conflict" shall be defined as encompassing

a. the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted ("primary articles"), and

b. edits relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict, to pages and discussions in all namespaces with the exception of userspace ("related content")

if I understand it correctly. Y. Dongchen (talk) 04:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't follow. You don't provide a reasoning as to why I should "remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page," you just quote from that case. To what end? So, no, I don't think you understand it correctly, but I'm not sure if I can explain it better. El_C 04:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

According to the "ARBPIA general sanctions" – Extended confirmed restriction: The extended confirmed restriction is imposed on the area of conflict.

Since you mentioned your rationale for the imposition of protection was that you deemed the article to contain related content, the general sanctions would not cover the imposition of whole-page protection. The related content was already explicitly protected as per the article talkpage. I am not an extended-confirmed user and I want to add information about past responses of WCK to natural disasters. Y. Dongchen (talk) 04:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

The only difference between primary and related is that WP:ECP isn't applied indefinitely for the latter. Because in the future that org may be in the news and experience active editing disputes about, say, Haiti, which is not currently deemed a contentious topic. But a page can only be protected in its entirety. I don't have discretion about the protection level itself. If you think you have a convincing case, you could request to get your WP:XC status expedited at WP:PERM#Extended confirmed, though. El_C 04:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

The "area of conflict" concept was introduced in WP:ARBPIA4 following confusion about Airbnb which included controversies regarding operation in West Bank settlements. So even though the article still contains the company's settlements controversy, the protection is not extended to the whole article. I might ask for a third opinion on this. Y. Dongchen (talk) 05:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Again, I'm not sure I follow. It's a standard action. But sure, maybe someone else can explain it better than I. The latest disputes at World Central Kitchen are related to the recent World Central Kitchen drone strikes (which I also protected, as it happens). Both actions have been logged at WP:AELOG/2024#PIA. HTH. El_C 05:25, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Protection of any article related to the topic area, broadly construed, is permitted by the protection policy and the contentious topic procedures. In my experience, it is common practice to only temporarily protect pages which are only partially related. El C's protection was aligned with policy and practice. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 12:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Gavin Menzies

I got an email explaining it was a student project. ". Students were told explicitly not to vandalize articles, although we do not have the class time for students to learn what constitutes a good Misplaced Pages edit before they complete the assignment. I hope the disruption caused by the assignment was minimal—at the very least, it should inspire a future generation of Misplaced Pages editors." Doug Weller talk 13:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Doug, that's interesting and a bit unexpected, but I should emphasize that I approached this from a wider lense. As in the long term issues the page has experienced intermittently, resulting in multiple protections from 2010 to the present day. Usually, these protections have been in the months, but the last two were for one year each (2017-2018 and 2019-2020, respectively), so I went for 2 years this time. But next time that page experiences major problems, whatever that reason may be, I think that the protection should be set not to expire. Best, El_C 01:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

TFA

story · music · places

I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) - Did you "pet" the calf (see March)? Did I tell you that the psalms are now done in Hebrew, even with translations into English?? Thanks to someone tireless. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

The statue is of Hildegard of Bingen, and as it happens, her Physica is on the Main page today, and Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below (on my talk) three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Ballet in and of Appalachia — now I (haven't) seen it all! El_C 14:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, about a shepherd, and then I saw plenty of sheep from the bike, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

O' Euroland, where one could ride their to the opera (which is to say, at all). El_C 07:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page - yesterday a great recital with many anti-war songs by Jewish composers whose music banned by the Nazis. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

images of a flock of sheep - some to pet - that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The juveniles' eyes — okay. But the adult one — how is that forward facing? 🐑 El_C 12:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

please help: when did I say "forward facing"? (my memory ...) - today you can look at the last three stories or "music" on my talk: the same topics, Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, Samuel Kummer and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

It was a rhetorical question to the sky! RIP Daniel Kern Manufacture d'Orgues. El_C 20:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for being so positive and active on the wiki, may you continue finding it rewarding and something you enjoy :3

— ♠ Ixtal ⁂ Non nobis solum. ♠ 22:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Ixtal, that's very kind of you. El_C 14:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Order of the Arrow

Would like a reference for "previously known as" - that change has not been made. I would be happy to help maintain this page. dugbrown 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, what is the question? Are you unable to edit Order of the Arrow, but would like to do so? Is that the issue? El_C 12:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes or would at least like a reference for the "Previously Known As" statement. @El C Doug (talk) 13:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what is meant by that (it's been many years since that article has even crossed my mind), but you should be good to go now. El_C 14:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

User:Shoot for the Stars

FYI, on being unblocked this user has immediately re-created Elliott Rodger, which was redirected a significant time ago and was the subject of a number of discussions. Black Kite (talk) 07:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Belatedly: the page/redirect you linked to above has not been edited by anyone in years, so you lost me. El_C 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Romania

You semi'd the page indefinitely, but you appear to have forgotten to reset the pending changes. With indef semi now in place, this obviously is not needed anymore. Lynch44 (talk) 00:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Got it. El_C 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Notification of ArbCom enforcement appeal

This is to inform you I appealed the topic ban you originally imposed in April 2022. The discussion can be found at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Anonimu. Anonimu (talk) 17:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Your appeal is incomplete because it only links to a previously failed appeal, but not to anything I did (the original enforcement action). El_C 17:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Reverting the edit of Maratha Empire article

Hi, it appears that you recently reverted the article on the Maratha Empire to a previous version. However, the prior version indicated a date of 1758, not 1760. Additionally, other articles about historical empires include maps from when they were at their peak, so the map from 1758 would be accurate in this context. The statement "Maratha Empire at its peak in 1760" contradicts the earlier map date. The map from 1758 is available on Wikimedia That's why I edited the map of 1760 to 1758 because the description under it was wrong. Seems like Misplaced Pages editors are biased. Also, there is a talk section about this topic in that article but no one discussed before editing. 2402:8100:387D:609D:AC52:E91E:48D4:A649 (talk) 12:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

You have used multiple IPs to edit war that change, some of which while block evading, and you wonder why no one wishes to engage your brief yet confusing and poorly-written talk page comment from April 22? In this context, your Seems like Misplaced Pages editors are biased seems unsubstantive and falls short. There may be a language barrier that at this time is insurmountable. This is the English Misplaced Pages, which means that there is a requirement that one would be sufficiently competent in its use in order to communicate clearly. El_C 13:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Question

Hi El C, I just want to bump the question I asked you last month up at #Thanks re Myanmar. I thought maybe you didn't see it because I added it all the way up there. TEMPO156 (talk) 00:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey. Sorry, I did indeed miss your comment at that time. In answer to your question: no, nothing recent comes to mind. HTH. Regards, El_C 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Can the Standoff at Eagle Pass be reduced in protection?

I believe you are the Misplaced Pages administrator who added Extended Confirmation Protection to Standoff at Eagle Pass. Can the protection for this page be reduced to semi-protected, due to the need for updates related to the topic (the banner has been there since February 2024) and the reduced news coverage and controversy about the event.

Side-note: I have extended confirmation protection editing power (500+ edits, more than 30 days). JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

The protection overall is gonna expire soon'ish (July), but sure, sounds good (log update). El_C 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Siege of Szigetvár and Nikola IV Zrinski

HI El C. I made a couple of edits on Misplaced Pages. I think I'm right, maybe I'm not. Two users disagree with me, one from the Battle for Sigetvar, the other from Nikola IV Zrinski, but no one else. I think that unverified images with unknown authors have no place on Misplaced Pages. Then everyone can post unverified pictures with unknown authors. I think there must be a rule for that in wikipedia, maybe there isn't. So I would like your opinion on that. See my Misplaced Pages edits. Thank you. 78.2.236.99 (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Yeah, sorry, I do think you're wrong here. Just because the 16th century author is unknown, doesn't mean the painting is "unverified." See https://en.mng.hu/artworks/34295 — I personally am inclined to trust the curators of the Hungarian National Gallery. But you can always bring any concerns or issue to the article talk page. That is where that discussion belongs. El_C 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting those templates :)

For context, I was going through these and finding the ones with >5k transclusions that MusikBot hadn't yet upgraded to TPE. I started listing them at RFPP/I before it occurred to me that -- if I added them all in one set -- I might accidentally cause people to be annoyed with me for flooding the page. Having said that, if you don't mind protecting some more, would it be okay if I listed the remaining ones from that list with >5k transclusions here? (If you do mind, it's not a problem of course!)

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten 22:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey, no worries, A smart kitten. Go for it. Regards, El_C 22:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks :)

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(Courtesy ping MusikAnimal - there might be nothing wrong with the bot, but thought I should ping you just in case, due to the number of templates with >5k transclusions that MusikBot II hadn't yet upgraded the protection of.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten 23:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Done. Regards, El_C 23:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Happy adminship anniversary! Hi El C! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C

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Possible removal of semi-protection at Friendly's

I don't know if the vandal is still active or not, but regardless, I believe the time since the page was protected is long enough for them to not vandalize again. Could you remove the semi protection on the page? MessageApp (talk) 23:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Done. El_C 23:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lower protection of Dota 2

From what I’ve seen the game has declined in popularity, meaning it won’t be as much of a target for vandalism. Plus, edits on the page have even very infrequent and there hasn’t been much talk page vandalism. I suggest semi protection and maybe pending changes if semi is also overkill, but semi is probably the best thing to do for now. CharlieEdited (talk) 01:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Done. El_C 23:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Also do the same thing at Yuri Lowell. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 13:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but for the most part, I prefer to only attend to such requests when they concern protections that I myself have imposed. I'd send you to that admin, but they are no longer one, so the venue to request that would be @WP:RFPP/D. HTH. El_C 17:59, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Lower protection of Republican Party (United States)

The conversation has closed, with a consensus in favor of alphabetical order. Bettering the Wiki (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Protection was already lowered for that page on 22:22, 1 May 2024. El_C 23:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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UCLA protest articles extended confirmation

Hi, I am a prof at UCLA and user https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Kd9806 is my student (see userpage). The extended confirmation lock on the 2024 University of California, Los Angeles pro-Palestinian campus occupation is preventing her and many of my student editors who are newer but on the ground from contributing. Is it possible to make a case by case basis exception so some of them can edit? I assume you are an admin and have these privileges. Noopur28 (talk) 15:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Briefly, requests to expedite the Extended confirmed tenure are made @Misplaced Pages:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed. Yes, any admin may grant or decline these requests. El_C 18:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I made a request to reduce protection. Any chance you could review it in there? There's a backlog :) Noopur28 (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

That page has no backlog currently. It doesn't even have any outstanding requests. My sense is that you would need more experience to qualify. Sorry, I'm writing in haste. El_C 18:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm very busy, but Noopur28, I mentioned Misplaced Pages:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed, not a protection reduction. Regardless, no, I can't review it. The rule is that you gotta ask the protecting admin first, who is... *checking*... Daniel Case. But since this is a WP:PIA WP:ECR action, it's highly unlikely that that protection will be reduced. El_C 22:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for remove edit lock

Please remove pp-30-500 Ahirwar Dhirendra Singh bundela (talk) 23:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, no, that's a WP:CASTE protection. A topic area under special consideration. El_C 23:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

May music

story · music · places

On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. The second piece in our program begins with first line from Psalm 80, which made us sing "Israel" often. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I enjoyed listening to Juliette Journaux for piano, thanks as always for the recommends! El_C 06:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

I liked her playing also, to the point. Today's story about Willi Brokmeier still needs support for RD. - "places" have goslings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story - Brokmeier is on the Main page also --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

U&A Reversion

Hello. I saw that you were involved with the reversion of my post on the “Universities and Antisemitism” page, specifically about MIT. I was wondering if you could provide me with some clarification on why my edit was reverted. I see that this page is protected, meaning one would have to be above 500 edits, but I am curious about the comment on Palestine-Israel articles. I understand that that these incidents at MIT have been influenced by the I-P conflict, but is there a way I can acknowledge that fact without being in violation of these rules? I would really appreciate any suggestions that could improve to fit Misplaced Pages standards. Thank you so much! Topiguana (talk) 16:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I actually was not involved in any reversions and know little to nothing about those. Rather, I protected the page (link) in response to a protection request (link). Unfortunately, since you lack the required tenure (the extended confirmed one of 30 days and 500 edits), you cannot presently edit the article due these restrictions (WP:ECR). Restrictions the Arbitration Committee has imposed on the WP:PIA topic area. In short, this was a procedural protection that aligns with these rules. Sorry I don't have better news for you. Regards, El_C 17:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

So, Topiguana, either you are able to reach to the WP:XC tenure (which must happen organically) so that the WP:30-500 threshold is met, or WP:ECR only permits you to participate as follows (quoting): Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive. El_C 17:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

This is super helpful, thanks so much! So sorry to make any false accusations, I was just looking at the edit history and wanted more information. Topiguana (talk) 18:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Not at all, glad you found it informative. All the best, El_C 19:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Clovermoss

Hi El C, I have a question. I noticed what you did here. I was kind of ambivalent on whether or not I should revoke talk page access but the idea of protecting the page itself didn't occur to me. Is it because of the sockpuppetry? I'm still getting the hang of nuance surrounding admin stuff and I try to use confusing situations as learning opportunities. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey. So I revoked TPA because this user continued spamming after being indeffed. Only after that did I notice that they also replied to their own spam as an IP for some reason . So I also semiprotected, an action that, granted, renedres the TPA revocation moot. Anyway, since this is a spam-only account with less than 20 edits, my overall position is: who cares? Best wishes, El_C 10:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Can you admin delete an edit from page history

Some new (apparently agenda-driven) user has realised they can't edit most Israel-Palestine related articles and so has decided to hit related ones. While most of this can/has just been removed, this edit is, well, read it yourself. A paragraph ranting about Israel being justified. Absolutely not appropriate to be hosted by Misplaced Pages even just in edit history. Kingsif (talk) 11:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, in my view, that is not a suitable candidate for WP:REVDEL. But one's mileage may vary, so feel free to get a 2nd opinion. El_C 11:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little surprised that wikivoice apologism for what is accepted as at least war crimes isn't suitable for deletion, to be honest, but thank you for considering. Kingsif (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)User:Kingsif, will tell me which section of Misplaced Pages:Revision deletion#Criteria for redaction you believe applies to the linked diff? Sorry User:El C for taking your space to ask the question. BusterD (talk) 16:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure, no.2 - using wikivoice to present apologism for at least war crimes, seems to me as Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material. Regardless of whatever side of any particular conflict, any comment anywhere that tries justifying what are widely considered war crimes is just so out of line.

What makes it cross the line, for me, is the presentation of this comment in wikivoice as if it's authoritative. I mean, the content was not relevant at the article and had a poor source anyway, but say it was relevant and well-sourced, saying "organisations X and Y think..." is good. But not wikivoice saying it. And, beyond NPOV as I see it, there are likely to be some affected people who would take that as Misplaced Pages, as a large organisation, taking an offensive stance. Kingsif (talk) 16:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Deleting my userpage?

Hullo El_C, long time no interact! Sorry to be a bother, but I'm writing this to ask if there's a way you or another administrator may "delete" my user page? Looking back, I'm quite uncomfortable with how I revealed both my general location and age in previous revisions (what happens when you're young, dumb, and very dumb!) and was wondering if there was a way for the edit history to be deleted? Or at least not publicly available for other contributors to see? Hope you're having a nice day, many thanks :) Sisuvia (talk) 07:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey Sisuvia, sorry I missed you. But it looks like someone else helped you with that request. Hope all is well. Yours, El_C 22:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Allison McAtee article

@El C Hi, just thought I should let you know, the user you blocked from editing that article didn't waste any time making another account so they could keep removing information. This time claiming it's a request from the actress. Which I highly doubt. Is is possible for you to prevent that page from being edited not only from accounts that haven't made many edits, but also from IPs since even if an editor gets blocked, they could also log out and make edits? Kcj5062 (talk) 23:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks, Kcj5062. El_C 23:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Good News & Bad News

Hi. I just wanted to let you know that:

• Bad News: The "lulzsters" struck Tony Ferguson once again, despite a long history of protection settings in the page log. Can you protect the page for even a longer period?
• Good News: The coast is clear from little T the disambiguation page for a couple of years now. However, I could not chat with the protecting admin due to their prolonged inactivity on Misplaced Pages. Is it ok for you instead to reset pending changes?

In conclusion, sorry for disturbing you.197.2.14.219 (talk) 20:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I don't know who little T is, but it looks like I protected Tony Ferguson back in 2022. It was protected by another admin earlier in 2024 (an admin who is active now, or was a few of hours ago, at least). Doesn't matter, I see that there's a lot of disruption to the page, so sure: Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 01:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much in advance! As for little T, it is currently pending-protected indefinitely. My concern is: there are barely any edits, whether anonymous or autoconfirmed, which defeats the purpose of protecting such disambiguation page beyond this point. Do you mind reseting pending changes?197.2.14.219 (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

No problem. Yeah, that's odd about that disambiguation page, but reset it to what end? It hasn't been edited in years, so I don't think it really matters. El_C 02:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Can you look after special:history/nickelodeon on CBS for a while? I once reverted an edit under another IP address but that revision persisted on coming back. At this point, I am uncertain who on earth is right. Furthermore, I am unwilling to get involved again to contribute for the time being due to excessive false accusations by this user for being a WP:SOCK of WP:LTA/TVFT (just because I showed up in WP:RFPP under the 197.::/16 range and/or the 102.::/16 range). Please keep an eye on the page history and decide which is best.197.3.236.189 (talk) 17:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi again, IP. Unfortunately, I can't spare the time to investigate this, but ohnoitsjamie (this user) is an experienced admin, so you might wish to try to explain yourself better to him, or submit a query to WP:ANI if you truly believe it to be a legit (and intractable) problem. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but here's hoping the matter gets resolved amicably. Regards, El_C 21:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

With the tone he uses to respond to my complaints or in his edit summaries:

• special:diff/1178752518
• special:diff/1129084008
• special:diff/1225468207
• special:diff/1225159203

I don't think it is worth bringing such issue to WP:ANI. Plus, I am still unwilling to sign up. My only solution is to bear such situation and take a break (even for up to 3 months, one of my blocked former IP ranges).

He may be one of the majority of, if not all, admins who would disbelieve how my editing behaviour differs from the telly vandal(s), aside from the IP ranges which I've mentioned earlier that I edit with (I don't literally hop from one range to another, it is just the poor quality of my internet connection which periodically disconnects, and that every reconnection comes with a different IP address under those IP ranges without the possibility of enforcing a static IP address).

• I don't blank notices on my talk pages.
• I leave edit summaries occassionally, including a period at the end.
• I may revert to my revision, but not to the extent of warring (User talk:197.3.156.48).

Signed.197.3.236.189 (talk) 23:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Confused

Hi El C, What's the edit summary about? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello. It is about you being mindful with your edits, as stated. El_C 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I just noticed the diffs. Sorry, there was no edit conflict warning when I published. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries, these things happen. El_C 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

MEK moderation

Hi El C: I know you stepped away from moderating MEK discussions, but I wonder if you are still considering this kind of work? If not, I'll note it and make sure I don't ping you again about this. If you are up for it, I'm workshopping an RFC in the talk page, and I would appreciate any uninvoved feedback to make it fair. Whatever the result is, I would like to avoid a "Bad RFC" outcome. Thank you. Best, MarioGom (talk) 14:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey Mario. I'm afraid that's a not. I helped establish WP:GS/IRANPOL so that I never have to do that again. But I wish you success in your efforts. Regards, El_C 15:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Makes sense. Best, MarioGom (talk) 15:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Care and feeding of bots

Hi El, A comment from the busybody in residence, regarding this bit of house keeping: the bot was only waiting for three requests to become eligible for archiving, which would have happened at 14:38 (UTC). The reason why it wasn't willing to do its chore before was the absence of a {{pagelinks}} at the top of the section. I added one, pro forma, a little while ago. Favonian (talk) 14:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Favonian. I thought the bot had gained sentience and did that to fuck with me, but your explanation is better! El_C 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

My signature

I find this funny more than anything, but can you eleborate by what makes my signature being “jarring”? I would be up to redesigning it. I made it three years ago when I pretty much never edited. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not engaging with this. El_C 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Laken Riley

Hello again! You and I had a brief discussion yesterday when I asked for an article about Laken Riley's killing to be semi-protected. It seems that even after the protection, multiple editors have been insistent on calling it a "murder", and one of them even moved the page to Murder of Laken Riley, in violation of Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (violence and deaths). There is a discussion on the Talk page going on about this, and since you were involved in this area when you and I talked yesterday, I think the discussion on the Talk page could use your valuable input. Thank you. Gottagotospace (talk) 12:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I see it's now been moved back. I'm gonna move-protect it momentarily (WP:RM only) so as at to remove all temptation. El_C 21:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! If you'd like to contribute, I think your input on the language used on the rest of the page could benefit from your input as well (since I changed a few instances of the word "murder" to other things, but that got reverted by someone else). We're discussing it on the Talk page. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

No problem, but sorry, no time. El_C 22:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries! I figured I might as well ask, but I understand. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Paula Vennells - FP

Hi El_C. There is no reason given on the article talk page (or anywhere else I can see that justifies the Full Protection). It is a controversial subject article, but that in itself, does not warrant full protection. I understood that a rationale for article full protection on the talk page or elsewhere is required? Can you please review or add something to the TP? Leaky caldron (talk) 21:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

The protection notice can be viewed at the following RfPP diff. The reason should be self-explanatory: an edit war between like 8 users. Sorry, I can't spare the time today for an additional note, but feel free to link my answer here if you think it might help. El_C 21:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I disagree that the disruption meets the criteria for full protection. There is next to no current activity on the article or talk page. The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed. I think if you are willing, it would be appropriate to review the protection in light of the narrow area of dispute and current limited level of disruption. Thanks. Leaky caldron (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I count nearly 20 reverts in the 2 days alone prior to my full protection, so, no, that makes no sense and is wholly divorced from the facts. Obviously, current would not include the 2 days that it's been fully-protected since, when no one could edit the page aside from admins (fulfilling edit requests) and bots (with sysop permissions). I honestly am at a loss here. El_C 07:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

RE: The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed — I didn't mention any participants, but if you mean the requestor of that protection request, they did indeed edit (revert) the article recently, less than an hour prior to my protecting it. And their revert itself was reverted 6 minutes later (9:22-9:28), which is a bit longer than the 4 minutes between reverts prior to these (9:18-9:22).

Diff: 9:22, 25 May 2024 Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk | contribs | block) Reverted 1 edit by Localhistorian2024 (talk): WP:NPOV

Diff: 9:28, 25 May 2024 Localhistorian2024 (talk | contribs | block) The London Gazette has stated...

Diff: 10:11, 25 May 2024 El C (talk | contribs | block) Protected "Paula Vennells": Edit warring / content dispute ( (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)) (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)))

So obviously the facts align with my description rather than your own. Facts which are provable and easily verifiable (per directly above). El_C 08:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Lowering Protection Level on Ebrahim Raisi

Hi EL_C. I was wondering when you will lower the protection level on Ebrahim Raisi since it is no longer a highly visible page. ImTheAvidPheasant (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey. Done, thanks for the reminder. Still, noting as of earlier today it is no longer listed at WP:ITN. So that's keeping it pretty tight, but I think it's probably fine (unless famous last jinx). El_C 14:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York

Hello! On March 31, 2023, you semi-protected Indictment of Donald Trump (now a redirect) under WP:AP2. This then went to New York Indictment of Donald Trump (redirect), then First indictment of Donald Trump (redirect), then Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York, and back then forth again with New York Indictment of Donald Trump to remain at the current title. As it has been over a year since the original sanction, I would like to ask if you would be willing to reconsider the page protection placed upon the page (and by extension the other pages listed). EggRoll97 02:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Unprotected. Regards, El_C 18:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Revdel request Mexico

Hello! Do you mind if I ask for a revdel on this abominably sexist edit: on 2024 Mexican general election? The offending user has been warned on talk by someone but I have doubts on whether the warning was serious enough. I was also considering page protection but the edit seems to occur every three weeks or so, so the request might not be granted. Thanks! Borgenland (talk) 03:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Done. Regards, El_C 18:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

June music

story · music · places

Today's story is about the TFA, by sadly missed Vami_IV. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to Schloss Köthen next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin the year. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a tune used by Bach and Mozart, and Bach's text is base on Psalm 12. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata, based on a hymn based on Psalm 6 (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Says Nutria, but maybe Muskrat? Groundhog? Capybara? Also, when the last time you've read Ulysses cover to cover? El_C 13:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I looked at the other two, and groundhog (high mountains) and capybara (much bigger) are out. The habitat described in nutria matched where I saw it, right next to the river, in the middle of town btw, and ignoring me. - Joyce: never. Tough enough for native English speakers. I read what Graham Waterhouse set to music ("Bulbulone" from Finnegans Wake, "Arise" from Chamber Music, #14, "Buzzard" again from Finnegans Wake), who was also inspired by today's birthday child. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

A river in the middle of town? What town was this again? *** Yeah, understandable, no doubt a tough read. I personally am not a fan. El_C 13:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Geilnau lies along the Lahn, northern side, and the trail is along the Lahn, and where I saw the animal was in the middle of the trail, well, yes, there's a little park on the other side of the trail. The road to Geilnau is a dead-end, which makes the valley quiet, with the train tracks in a tunnel in a distance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Either Nutria or Muskrat, then. All four are originally from the Americas, but those two were introduced into Eurasia. Capybara (which was a joke nomination) is South America only, while Groundhog—see my petting one at the top of this talk page (though maybe it's actually a Muskrat!)—is North America only. El_C 15:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

The nom for Tappy has now a lot of support, but needs an admin to post it. Anybody looking here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung (one based on Psalm 100 and one based on Psalm 96) and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

the sad story today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Jordan

Hello, I just noticed the Jordan article had been placed under indef ECP in April, could you please tell me why this was done? Noting that there was an ARBCOM ruling that stated the Jordan article does not fall under ARBPIA, and also that there was not much disruption to the article beyond a single week in April. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey. So when attending to your protection request, I saw excessive ARBPIA editing (disruptive or otherwise) by non-WP:XC accounts. That's the reason. As for that 2018 AE discussion: for our immediate purposes, it's somewhat academic whether the protection defines Jordan as a primary article or as related content. There's also the issue of that page having been protected over 25 times prior. For the longer term, though, there could be a case to downgrade it to (indef) semi as related content only, say, in a few months from now. El_C 18:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

a very cute duck

	a very cute duck
	I just felt kind today ;P Daisytheduck (talk) 02:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the duck, Daisytheduck! El_C 13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Subject

Thank you El_C for closing the (Botola) page due to repeated vandalism. if possible, close it in general from fake accounts. زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

No problem, glad I could help, زكرياء نوير. If further issues arise, feel free to relist at WP:RFPP/I or drop me a note here. El_C 13:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

user:El_C The page has been vandalized again. Please close it permanently زكرياء نوير (talk) 00:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 2 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Permanent protection often gets imposed after dozens of previous protection actions (of escalated durations) over the course of years had proven insufficient. So this page isn't a candidate for that at this time, I'm afraid, since this is only its second protection. El_C 06:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

It's okay. I want you see it again in two weeks, to see if it was vandalized زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I'm unlikely to remember unless given a reminder. But, again, feel free to drop me a line if there's further problems, and it'll be, I dunno, 2 months next, and many months after that. Unlike some admins, I don't usually allow a page to be protected tens of times before making it indef (permanent), but it still won't be twice or thrice from now. El_C 12:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with making the page permanently protected if it is always vulnerable due to frequent modifications, thank you زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Requests for indef protections for pages of similar and even higher levels of disruption are extremely common, but the protection policy's ethos stresses exhausting all options, and within reason, going through the motions. Which I'm not really the biggest fan of, but I can't act by fiat contra that unless there's something truly egregious. El_C 12:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

National Party (Ireland, 2016)

Hiya, you asked for a reminder to restore the page's indef semi protection once the full protection lapses. Here you are! Boardwalk.Koi (talk) 14:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Beat me to it! :-) Bastun 15:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Done — thanks for the reminder, guys! El_C 00:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

My signature

Thank you for reminding me to add my signature to my comments. Somehow, I forgot to do it in that ArbCom discussion because usually, when commenting on an article talk page, the website automatically provides our signature for us. I have just added the {{unsigned}} template to each of them. Thank you. 🙂 — Kaalakaa 23:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for following up. I didn't realize that was a thing, but that makes sense. Incidentally, some have taken umbrage to my is annoying reminder, but the truth is that I'm annoying about sigs in general. At least once monthly, seemingly. Oh well. Regards, El_C 00:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Hello. You semi protected the page on the 2024 Dagestan attack for a number of days, and its talk page is also semi-protected.

Previously, consistent with the wp norm, the first line of that article began contained bolded language. In this case, saying:

"On 23 June 2024, the 2024 Dagestan attack took place, when coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..."

That has now been changed. It now says "On 23 June 2024, coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..." There is no bolded language in the lede, matching the title. And I cannot fix that, or ask on the article talk page that it be fixed, as those pages are semi-protected.

Can you please restore the former format, consistent with out norms across the project?

I leave my request here as I am unable to do so on the article talk page, given that it has been semi-protected. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:78CD:917F:7124:8DC3 (talk) 03:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, I'm precluded from doing that due to WP:UNINVOLVED. You can submit that request to Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection/Edit, though. HTH. El_C 04:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Request renewing a block for persistent BATTLEGROUND

I'd rather not go through ANI all over again when an editor immediately returned to the behavior that got them blocked there previously. In short, Elinruby has continued their personal attacks and other BATTLEGROUND tactics across multiple discussions both on- and off-Wiki since their most recent block. When I reverted a removal of content on 2021 Canadian church burnings, they

1. Twice again removed the content
2. Initiated a talk page discussion mischaracterizing me as claiming Portland is in Canada, a false statement they repeated on their talk page
3. Opened a discussion at WP:NPOVN only 15 minutes after discussion began on the article talk page, but used such a non-neutral statement that it had to be reverted
4. Began a further eight different talk sections on the article talk page
5. Wrote crickets when I didn't have time to immediately respond, following up with this when I finally had a moment to begin catching up

They've also taken to posting numerous discussions at NPOVN and RSN recently, including at least one where they admitted to not even reading the source they were reporting (I didn't actually check the text). Another editor has also recently complained regarding Elinruby's behavior. I request you restore the block with an escalated duration. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Pass! Sorry, at this time above all else, I can't commit to the follow ups, certainly if blocking was determined the correct course of action. So noticeboard does seem like your best bet (such as it is, but what can you do?). El_C 09:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Derby Subj

Hi El_C this Casablanca derby needs to be closed after the continuous destruction, thank you. Ji Soôo97 (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

July music

story · music · places

The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia, (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Found a bit more. Today's story is about her, an outstanding violinist from Georgia, which is a sad story in the end. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) - and a small deer pictured in the new pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is Hevenu shalom aleichem, in honour of the friend from Israel whose birthday is today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers the chamber music from two amazing concerts. The latest pics have a juxtaposition of cattle (moving their ears at a wild speed) and their meat on a plate - a bit cruel perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

... and today's story begins with Psalm 124, paraphrased in 1524, and put to five (!) chorale settings in 1724, for this Sunday. Nominated for GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove protection from Big N' Tasty

I see no reason for the page to continue being protected since there is no controversy or anything surrounding it unlike with some other food items. Plus, edits are so infrequent that protection is most likely useless. Maybe if vandalism returns there could be some pending changes or maybe semi, but there’s no way a 5-year-long ECP is worth it anymore. CharlieEdited (talk) 01:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

It was an LTA years-long obsession (not just with this page) rather than real-world controversy or incident. Anyway Unprotected. El_C 06:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove protection

Hi ELC, After opened the page Botola after you closed it for a week, it was vandalized again. Can you close it permanently. 160.177.131.79 (talk) 14:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Profile syntax

Hello! I'm cleaning up various pages with tracked syntax errors and ran across your userpage this evening. Wondered if you'd be willing to update it with these changes to correct the misnested and obsolete tag issues? If these meet your approval, you can copy the entirety (minus the first two lines) here for simplicity. Best wishes, and hope you are staying cool this hot summer! Zinnober9 (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Done — thank you for your diligence. Best, El_C 09:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

List of highest grossing films protection

Hi, I asked you a question here, but I don't know if you saw the ping, can you give back to the page the EC protection? Thanks. Today another edit was reverted to a registered user--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 17:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey. No, I didn't see it, but you should not edit archives (from a year ago and in general), since those discussions are no longer live. Sorry, but a single user (now blocked) is not enough for WP:ECP that would effect many. And I don't have the time to look into this in depth, sort of in-the-blind, as I don't remember much about this page a year ago. El_C 18:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

But it is not only a user, I told you about also in December 2023, there are many reverted edits from registered users, you can see some of them here, but there are another without the tag. Since the user that asked you to reduce the protection didn't know anything about the page situation, I think that is pretty unfair, for months me, Betty Logan and other users have to revert many edits because of that, so maybe you can put back the ECP even without knowing the page too much, like that user did in September 2023, if you "accepted" that request from a user that doesn't follow, doesn't edit and doesn't know the page, you can trust me, one of the main contributor, when I say that the page still needs the ECP, thanks--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 19:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Sure, let's see what Betty Logan says (I see you've notified her of this). Sorry, I've protected many hundreds of pages since then, so again, I simply do not recall any of these details. El_C 20:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

There is currently an underlying issue with Box-Office Mojo double-counting re-release grosses. This has led to many editors "correcting" figures to incorrect values. These edits are carried out entirely in good faith, but they do generally come from newer, more inexperienced editors who are not familiar with the issue. We are tracking the problem at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Film/Film_finance_task_force#Box_Office_Mojo which most of the regular Film project editors are familiar with. I think extending the protection would probably help. It would mean that new/inexperienced editors would need to request the change on the talk page where the problem could be explained to them (if applicable). I don't think it would be detrimental to updating the article because it has several dedicated editors from a wide geographic span. Betty Logan (talk) 10:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Done — thank you both. El_C 15:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

List of CNN Personnel vandal

Hey, El C!

A couple days ago you protected List of CNN personnel after an Israeli IP vandal engaged in several days of constant vandalism. Well, the protection is off and he's back. Would you mind taking look cat the situation and see what might be done? He's IP-hopping, so a range block, maybe? You know what's best. Thanks for any help! Drmargi (talk) 02:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

August music

story · music · places

Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

... and a third, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extrordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

... adding 4 animals from 30 July --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey. Thank you. Sorry for my absence. Hope to be back soon, though. All the best, El_C 12:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

IP vandalism again

Ip Special:Contributions/103.131.213.43 and Special:Contributions/103.131.212.131 are vandalizing movie pages by changing budget and boxoffice numbers. You blocked IP Special:Contributions/103.131.213.151 and all these IPs come from one person. I think a block on a range will be helpful. RangersRus (talk) 11:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day! Hi El C! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society

Dear El C,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Misplaced Pages project for twenty years or more. ​

Best regards, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

— The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Unblocking from editing

Why did you unblock me from editing? Countscarter (talk) 03:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

That didn't happen. El_C 12:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

One of the saddest songs I know

"The Lost Ones", by Ted Hawkins. Narky Blert (talk) 16:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey. More Ted Hawkins, nice. But, sorry, I am denying sadness for the moment (somehow). Hope you've been well. Best wishes, El_C 12:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Question about a close

Hi El C. In your close here you used the phrase with prejudice. This wording has come up in a few different places I've seen regarding appeals and so I was just wondering what you meant by it. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey. This is over a year ago, but probably aligning with such comments as Hell no and reconsider after the heat death of the universe, and so on. HTH. El_C 21:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

While I have no eagerness to see this person unblocked (probably ever) it's been taken by a few admins to mean that the person can literally never appeal again, which strikes me as beyond the consensus of that conversation (and truthfully likely beyond policy consensus, at least as policy is written). Was it your intent to permanently close all future appeals? Barkeep49 (talk) 22:03, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

No, no, that was not my intent. I think at the time I was just, like, fuck that guy. But I agree with what you say and, in any case, I would not have stood in the way of any future appeals. El_C 22:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I certainly can't argue with the sentiment you had at the time. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Request to reconsider a close on "with prejudice"

Hi El C. I know it's been a while, but you closed Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive351#Unblock_request_of_Cognition, and since then I think the impact of your wording has been perhaps broader than intended. Your wording stated that the appeal was denied "with prejudice." While I understand the sentiment of the thread was that this user was unwelcome, the "with prejudice" wording suggests that we will never, ever unban them. While that might be true, it might not be, and telling someone to never come back just encourages sockpuppeting. This has created a problem at UTRS where it's unclear if this user can appeal at all. So in the interest of resolving this issue, I wonder if you might reconsider your choice of wording in the close. I don't think the community has authorized the sort of decision to permaban people without any further chance of appeal. CaptainEek ⚓ 20:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Please refer to the (now main) thread directly above, which I feel suffices for this singular incidence. If you need more from me, let me know. El_C 02:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@El C Ah, my bad, I didn't see that @Barkeep49 had also raised the issue. CaptainEek ⚓ 06:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@CaptainEek and Barkeep49: To expand a bit (sorry, been pressed for time recently), I think there are ways in which future appeals can be limited by a closing admin in the course of a consensus for a CBAN, which is when reoccurring appeals are the subject of that consensus expressly. I've done this before. Two years probably tops (five unlikely). Indef denial of considering appeals is possible, but that'd be the exclusive domain of ARBCOM (project-wise, of course it could also happen at the Foundation level). This was reflexive on my part, which I do regret in so far as it inconveniencing my colleagues. And for that I apologize, Deepfriedokra, Jpgordon, and Yamla. Yours truly, El_C 06:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks y'all. Pinging @JBW who was very articulate at utrs. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks sorry to put you all through that. I guess that now means I get to (reluctantly) carry his appeal to the community-- but not on a Sunday, for that is my day of prayer. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

September music

story · music · places

Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display his portrait by Egon Schiele, music from Moses und Aron, and two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday ;) - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

My story today is about a man who played jazz when it was banned by the Nazis, - you can listen to how they played it later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

My story today features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful music, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Abdul Hannan

Hello, could you protect this deletion query so that only self-confirmed editors participate and not anonymous IPs. Thank you. Alon9393 (talk) 07:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm declining your request, Alon9393. One disruptive user (now indef blocked) is insufficient grounds for protection (i.e. there needs to be a few). El_C 14:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick

Hello there! I'm just reaching out to inform you that troll editors are back trying to mess with this page, since the protections were recently taken down. They removed a more recent picture of the guy to use an image from nearly 20 years ago, and I worry that there may be more vandalization to come.

Could you restore the protection template please? I'm happy to update the image again, if needed, and stay on the lookout for disruptive editing. Thanks so much. Doctorstrange617 (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

It looks like someone deleted the more recent image altogether actually. Not sure why, since there's no justification for it... Doctorstrange617 (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

October music

story · music · places

You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Question

Hi, El C. Regarding the "pointless addition" edit summary, can you suggest what I could have done differently here? I started a talk page discussion elaborating on this, but it seems that my approach was not good enough here. Do you suggest a more descriptive edit summary? Thank you. Mellk (talk) 15:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello. It doesn't touch on that being the prevailing convention. You need to address that directly. El_C 15:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Makes sense, I should have referred to something like MOS:REDUNDANCY or MOS:AVOIDBOLD then. Thanks for clarifying. Mellk (talk) 15:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the info

Hello @El C thank you for the reply and the info in the post and don't worry for writing in haste, I was thinking that page was intended for quick comments which is why I didn't contribute when I initially saw the post. Thanks for the info you provided I'm gonna try and see what I can do about it. Galdrack (talk) 20:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome, Galdrack, glad I could help. Good luck. El_C 20:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Galdrack, in the interest of completeness, I forget if you commented at the latest ANI report (permalink), but I ended up blocking Steven indefinitely (diff). Hope this message finds you well. Best, El_C 20:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@El C I was watching it but never got the time to write out my full opinion on the matter, in the end it wasn't needed I suppose. Thanks for letting me know and thanks for the help! Galdrack (talk) 21:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Ukrainian election vandalism

Hello! Unfortunately, the user I mentioned at WP:ANI#IP user re-adding unsubstantiated dates for next Ukrainian elections, whom you partially blocked for two weeks, appears to be back under the new IP User:109.245.225.6; they are continuing the pattern of inserting 2025 as the next election date with no source and the edit summary "election proposed". I've reverted the latest edits again - the three articles affected are 2019 Ukrainian presidential election, 2019 Ukrainian parliamentary election, and next Ukrainian parliamentary election.

Thank you for your help! Helpful Cat (talk) 15:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I've just noticed that the same thing was done on Next Ukrainian presidential election, which I have reverted as well. This one is by User:Stankemanual (diff), I don't know if they are the same person behind the two IPs. Helpful Cat (talk) 15:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey. So I've just semiprotected all of them under WP:ARBEE. Obviously, there's also a WP:RUSUKR undercurrent there as well, but we'll cross that bridge if and/or when that protection level falls short. Sorry, I'm writing in haste and do not have time to look into that named account (or anything else) right now, but they have only two edits at the time of writing, so the semiprotection should work against them, at least for the time being. Best, El_C 15:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@El C that's great, thank you so much for your help and swift action! Helpful Cat (talk) 15:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome, happy to help. Please feel free to continue to update me if any further issues arise. El_C 15:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Another controversy with Mellk

This lengthy note—with its many bold passages and many links—is not something I wish to engage with at this time, sorry. El_C 19:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Hi, once again I have an issue with this user Mellk, who created another controversy seemingly out of nowhere and don't want to explain a proper reason for their reverts, regarding this they were already formally warned about by you. First, they reverted me in Kievan Rus' article , with a summary like this ""Land of Rus" not mentioned in source, WP:OR and other unexplained changes". I reverted them , and pointed out that it Rus' land is mentioned with sources literally above the section I edited (In Kievan Rus', go to the "names" section and see an image with a sentence below:"Rus' land in narrow sense", which is sourced!), I also pointed out that I have already given an explanation for my changes in my last summary. They continued to persist and reverted my changes again, with a summary:"Image alone is not RS and overall this does not look like an improvement, you can start a talk page discussion about this. I didn't revert them again, as this is what other administrator suggested, so I wasn't doing any edit warring, and instead I decided to address this issue to them in a discussion in History of Ukraine talk page, expecting to solve the issue quickly , yet here they greeted me with this comment:"This talk page is only about improving this article. This does not count as spam. If you create a new topic there, I will explain my reasoning there in more detail". They basically told that it is I who must create new topic on Kievan Rus' talk page and only then they will give a proper explanation, as if it's not what they are supposed to do from the beginning . I addressed them this and after few responses, they eventually moved to the talk page of Kievan Rus' article, but answered under completely different topic created by another person, which they associated with me for some reason. I created a new topic for them, where they continued to write me this :"There is also no mention of "Land of Rus" in Encyclopedia of Ukraine, and really, we should be using better sources than this. If this is based on the image, then this looks like synth. The other changes do not look like an improvement. For example, what is "the first Rus' people" supposed to mean? Also, changing "Vladimir the Great and Yaroslav the Wise tried to associate the name with all of the extended princely domains" to "the name was as well denoting all of the Kievan domains" changes the meaning". They continued to ignore the fact that the sentence below the image was sourced and I addressed them this. They also didn't know what Rus' people meant at different times, yet still addressed this as my issue. Seeing the lack of proper reasoning yet a persistent denial of my edits, I tried to ask for further details about why they see my changes as a WP:synth,, and also told them to not waste time of other editors with a minor nitpicking or because of their own dull understanding of a subject. Instead of giving me a further proper response, they wrote me this :" 'Since you are resorting to personal attacks once again, I have lost interest in discussing' ". Then they headed to the Talk page of other administrator and began to complain :"Hi asilvering, I am still finding it impossible to discuss edits with Shahray, already less than a day after their block expired". I obviously noticed this and addressed their childish behavior and unwillingness to cooperate. Surprisingly, other administrator wrote this :"Nah, I think you're fine to go to ANI about it. They've been blocked twice for this already, and now they might be doing WP:LOUTSOCK stuff". Asilvering supported them and suggested to report me on notice board, with absolutely no evidence of my guilt given, giving me some further nonsensical accusations like "sock puppetary", even though I wrote all my messages to Mellk from my personal account. Furthermore, Asilvering ignored my comment and my concerns about Mellk and wrote:"Go ahead and use that reply above as evidence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". Viewing this overall, a deliberate attempt to target me might take place, so I ask for a suggestion from you about how can we solve this situation and should Mellk receive a temporary block for a behavior they have been already warned about? Because they don't seem to want a peaceful solution and quickly drop out of the discussion after a few responses, persisting on deleting my changes at the same time. Shahray (talk) 17:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Notifying people in an edit summary

(talk page watcher) I'm not sure if you meant to notify anyone in the edit summary with this edit. I just wanted to pint out that it's possible, but you have to link the persons' userspace in the edit summary. So, if you wanted to notify me in an edit summary, you'd have to put in ] somewhere within it. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 20:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

It was intentional. El_C 21:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

@El C, I believe this topic ban isn't justified enough, I explained the reason here . If you don't want to go into details or unban, then I ask you to at least adjust this ban for now so I can edit talk pages, and can ask community broadly regarding my changes. I don't think this should create any issues. Further editing is pointless without getting consensus first anyway. Shahray (talk) 06:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Shahray, I'm not involved in imposing this ban and unfortunately can't spare the time to review it, sorry. El_C 07:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

@El C, I know you shouldn't necessarily look into this, but it would be helpful if you make an adjustment that allows to edit talk pages, I don't think it wastes much time or is controversial. Admin who imposed this ban said they are "happy for other admins to make whatever adjustments they feel are reasonable". Cheers. Shahray (talk) 08:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

You misunderstand the admin who made that comment after saying "go straight to AE as described at WP:CTOP#Appeals and amendments". The admin is saying that the AE admins at WP:AE will make adjustments they feel are reasonable. That does not apply to individual admins at their talk pages. El_C has made it clear that they are busy and you should post at WP:AE if seeking an adjustment, not here. Johnuniq (talk) 09:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Twin Flames

Thanks for the page protection and revdels. If you get a chance, there are two more IP edits that could use revdel too. KoA (talk) 21:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Ugh, pattern recognition fail. :( Done. El_C 22:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

RE: Sarah Jama Page

Good evening El C,

I want to start off by thanking you for protecting the Sarah Jama page! It's badly needed. Also, I love the chipmunk pictures - I live near the Niagara Escarpment and one of my favourite things is hiking and finding all the wildlife on the trail, very much including quite a few chipmunks.

I'm having a lot of difficulty with the page for Sarah Jama. I'll send you a link to the version I created, which has been repeatedly sabotaged:

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Sarah_Jama&oldid=1254559532

Some of my formatting isn't perfect, especially around dates for citations and so forth. But I think you'll agree that my content is objective, impartial, and well-substantiated.

I see that you locked the page and required that extended confirmed users alone are allowed to make edits. While I applaud the protection, the problem is that the version implemented contains multiple very serious omissions, most notably MPP Sarah Jama's legislative work, which you'll see in my version, but not the page's current version.

Any help will be much appreciated, I only want the truth to be represented.

Pat PatHamilton47 (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello PatHamilton47. Unfortunately, even if the edits (which I did not examine closely) are indeed objective, impartial, and well-substantiated, that isn't pertinent to this action and also not for me to decide. The account restriction (to WP:XC) is an arbitration remedy (WP:PIA, WP:ECR) that is meant as a technical limitation imposed by the Arbitration Committee. And not for me to decide even beyond that, per WP:INVOLVED. So the edits being correct—which short of WP:LIBEL outright is sorta in the eye of the beholder—would not be seen as a mitigating factor. Well, to a point. Say you had a good record of well-sourced edits and were at ~450 edits (50 short of the XC tenure)... in that instance, I might manually upgrade your permissions (and most admins wouldn't even do that as we have so little discretion in that area). But you're at 20 at the time of writing, so not even close. So my suggestion would be for you to prioritize what you deem most pressing and formulate that through the edit request feature. Which is all you're allowed to do for this topic area until meeting the 30 days 500 edits requirement (WP:30/500). Sorry I don't have better news for you, but that's just how the system has been set up over the years, mostly to avoid canvassing and brigading in some of these especially contentious topics. Thank you. El_C 03:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

PatHamilton47, as an afterthought, you can see from a protection request (for the article Ongoing Nakba) from earlier today that, for my part, I at least try to avoid topic area edits by un-tenured users from being rejected offhand simply on the basis of lacking that tenure. Like the editor in that request who effectively said: I agree with the edits and think they're good, but I still undid them for lacking the tenure (i.e. on that basis only). It does sometimes feel like I'm fighting a losing battle, though. But I still try. Yours, El_C 09:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Notice of a discussion I think you'd be interested in knowing about

Hey El C: I thought you might want to be aware of this discussion (which includes not just the linked to thread, but a much larger one further above on VP/WMF). In summary, it appears that the WMF is prepared to imminently disclose personally identifying information about volunteers in a controversial Indian court case, where a news agency is attempting to suppress Misplaced Pages's tertiary coverage of the content of secondary sources (which it considers unflattering) by going after a number of individual editors as defendants. In order to comply with court orders in the case, it seems the WMF is prepared to share this information in what a number of us consider a pretty seismically bad idea and a betrayal of community priorities and values (the WMF has also already used an office action to remove an article reporting on the case, at the direction of the court for what said court regards as legitimate sub judice reasons).

While the deletion of the article has been framed by the WMF as temporary step to preserve appeal on the overall case, and there are mixed feelings in the community response as to that so far, there is a much more uniform opposition to throwing the individual editors (at least one of whom is located in India and has profound apprehension about what this could mean for his life with regard to litigation and beyond) under the bus. And yet the WMF appears to be prepared to share the information in question, as soon as Nov. 8. Can I impose upon you to take a look at the matter and share your perspective? SnowRise 00:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey. I'm sorry, but whatever this is, it is summarized poorly. Particularly, I've yet to see where it is expressly stated that the WMF is prepared to imminently disclose personally identifying information, as soon as Nov. 8, that could then be subject to possible discovery or leaking. Of crouse, I'd strongly oppose such a gross overreach and betrayal by the Foundation. And of course, I'd rather the Foundation as representing the English Misplaced Pages refuse to cooperate with that Indian court, even if that means letting India (with its mass number of English speakers) go by the wayside like Russia, China, Turkey, etc. If only to avoid the likely class-action suit in America that could spell the demise of the WMF and by extension, its flagship English Misplaced Pages project. But the facts of the matter are unclear (within the thousands of words) and my time is limited by necessity as of late, notwithstanding even the potential gravity of such a measure. El_C 05:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Well, as to the certainty that a disclosure is imminent that is driving so much of the concern just now, it comes from one of the involved editors/potential defendants, who reached out to Valereee with a series of posts they wished Val to deliver into the thread on their behalf. In those messages, this editor (anonymous to the broader community at the present time) disclosed that they have been in touch with the WMF over the last few days and that the current WMF plan seems to be to disclose the PII to the court on the 8th. So, not really much doubt at this moment in time, unfortunately. SnowRise 06:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

On her talk page or privately? Also, I just realized that the WPO's thread titled "Asian News International sues Misplaced Pages for Defamation" is about this. I've yet to look at that thread and didn't connect between Asian News International and India until now. Anyway, maybe that thread can offer a better summary. As mentioned, my time is very limited lately, but I'll try giving that thread at least a cursory read. Yours, El_C 06:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

That's all that can be asked, and then some, when I consider the general state of things at this moment. ;) SnowRise 07:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Snow Rise, I'm writing in haste, but in the interest of completeness, I've yet to read that thread, but I did find a Singpost summary (by way of WPO) here. So I'm somewhat up to date, but Yngvadottir, help a brother out! I also found out that Republic TV is considering a similar suit (you know, the leftists and shit), and guess which admin indef semi'd that page as WP:ARBIND? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 02:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

In response to ping, I was about to recommend that Wikipediocracy thread; if you can stand to wade through the bloviations from people like me, I think the informational posts there summarize the evolving situation, with links, better than anything else including the Signpost. Sorry. Yngvadottir (talk) 02:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough, will do. Thanks for taking the time and for the prompt response. Btw, you might not be as longwinded as Snow Rise (*poke*), but I rarely if ever fail to find it worthwhile reading (either of) your writings in full. But time, you know, a harsh mistress. Thanks again. Yours, El_C 03:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Crank

Could you please reinstate the page protection for this redirect? It went off two weeks ago, and the IP reversals have already started up again. Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Elmidae, the page you directly-linked is not a redirect, so all I have in front of me is the WP:DAB page that was never protected and was last edited 06:14, 5 July 2022. El_C 01:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong link - I intended Crank (person). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 11:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

November music

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For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Today's story relates to 2 meanings of 9 Nov, - imagine: I found a DYK I liked from 2006, before my time here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - Madeleine Riffaud - remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. He helped me in the Hebrew Misplaced Pages. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Mahsa Amini

@El C, in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mahsa Amini you mentioned that the result was merge with an option to split in the near future. Now after two years the articles Mahsa Amini and Death of Mahsa Amini have been split specially that Mahsa Amini has received Sakharov Prize. But some users once again are determined to remove Mahsa Amini article because of personal and political reasons. They are wrongly going to merge article Mahsa Amini into Death of Mahsa Amini whereas these articles need necessarily to be separated because both of them are notable and Mahsa Amin has received Sakharov Prize. I think a person who has received this important prize must have an article independently. Unfortunately some users are determined to remove her article just because of political reasons which is not acceptable in Misplaced Pages. Please help to stop merging these articles. AlijenabH (talk) 19:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, AlijenabH, but I lack the spare time to give this even a cursory review right now, so I leave it to be decided by others. I notice you already posted WP:AN#Please stop merging Mahsa Amini into Death of Mahsa Amini (permalink), so however that concludes is fine with me. Thank you. El_C 00:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

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L committee?

I'm trying to figure out what Special:Diff/1257824916 means. RoySmith (talk) 21:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

L does not stand for win, that would be W. El_C 21:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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Did you change the CCP page?

Looking at the source history for the ccp page it went from CPC to CCP did you do this? if so what's the purpose in intentionally spelling it wrong? Why should wiki be based on westerners not being able to correctly say an organizations name? Gingercom1 (talk) 02:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes. The purpose was to enact the move request (WP:RM) for the non-admin closer who deemed there being consensus to move the page (they couldn't do it themselves because a redirect needed to be deleted in order for the move to work). And while this was 4 years ago and I was uninvolved in the move discussion itself, IIRC the basis for it was WP:COMMONNAME. HTH. El_C 02:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Page Protection (Talk:2024 United States presidential election)

Hi El :) It was recommended that I reach out to you directly to request that you roll back the protection on Talk:2024 United States presidential election. I understand protecting the main page and do not think that should change at the moment, but the talk page is becoming one-sided as a small handful of editors/administrators repeatedly shut down and archive certain topics, with outside voices being unable to even participate in the discussion. Thank you for your consideration. 71.210.42.253 (talk) 21:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi. The protection expires in a couple of weeks anyway, but I'm alright with lifting it early, especially since the outcome is uncontested. Unprotected. El_C 05:34, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! 71.210.42.253 (talk) 13:56, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mashiding Lomandong

Hi El C. I'm asking you about this since you protected Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mashiding Lomandong. Should the two "keep" !votes now be struck based on Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Rex 97Cavaliers? -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:42, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Hey. Sorry for the delay in replying (which may render the matter moot). But in answer to your question: personally, I'm not a fan of using strikethrough, especially when the {{canvassed}} or {{spa}} tag/s have already been applied. That's just my own general preference, though. HTH. All the best, El_C 08:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I guess it was moot since they were CU-blocked since. Anyway, this is to note that I closed the discussion with unanimous consensus to delete. El_C 14:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi. This user insistly violates MOS:MUHAMMAD and WP:NPOV. Before, he did his vandalistic changes with another account. Please block him and his IP address, and if possible, please take the pages that he vandalize under protection. Thank you. Aybeg (talk) 07:02, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello Aybeg. I've left them a warning about observing the ethos of WP:PBUH (etc.) by refraining from adding these honourifics en masse (here), so hopefully this will suffice. Blocking is a last resort, though, and these, technically, do not count as vandalism, at least not yet (please refer to WP:NOTVANDALISM) for the definition). Thank you. El_C 08:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

December music

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Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Abusive IP

Here is their range Special:Contributions/2001:4490:880::/44, their edits on Umar Khalid & India_Today_(TV channel) may also need revdeletion. - Ratnahastin (talk) 05:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Definitely. That's pretty bad. Anyway: Done. Thank you. El_C 05:42, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your contributions! 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 06:01, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Freedoxm, that's very kind of you. Best wishes, El_C 16:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Io Saturnalia!

		Io, Saturnalia!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:07, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Pending cases

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Sorry, what? El_C 15:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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"extraordinary circumstances"

May i ask what makes this BLP perpetrator extraordinary when compared to every other accused murderer on Misplaced Pages? Trade (talk) 01:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

The target and circumstances. El_C 02:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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