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== The state of Indian media ==
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A thought-provoking interview of Rajdeep Sardesai . I remember him being cocky about it a year or two ago. Now he sounds completely despondent. -- ] (]) 19:14, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

:Yes, about 9 to 10 years ago, Indian media became deprecated. ] (]) 15:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
::Please see ] and ]. ] (]) 15:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
::Even on Misplaced Pages they are mostly ], not to mention how most of them ]. - ] (]) 15:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:This month, Caravan News18 and it cannot be nearer to truth. they have pushed on Sambhal Mosque boggles my mind. Probably, nothing except The Indian Express, The Hindu, and The Dainik Bhaskar are worth relying upon anymore. ] (]) 17:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:: The freedom allowed for each media house has been circumscribed individually. Nobody is immune. Even we are not. -- ] (]) 10:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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Greeshma Kuthar, a freelance journalist who in my opinion produced the best reporting on the ], also made a lot of remarks on the state of media coverage in . There is also of the interview.

She didn't get into it in the interview, but revealed on twitter several times that she had a lot of difficulty getting her articles published even after she wrote them. We can only imagine why. -- ] (]) 12:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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Are the above notable? --<font color="Orange"><b>]</b></font><sup><i> <font color="green">]</font></i></sup> 12:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
<blockquote>'''Unreferenced and unimproved 15 years. No reliable sources online Google news, newspapers, books, or scholar. Run of the mill, very small village. What little is on the page is trivia. Not enough useful information to merge.'''</blockquote>


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:nope. this is a district specific caste org. not notable.--] (]) 07:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)


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:Added a ref, de-prodded since it now meets ], and removed unsourced fluff from the article. The same ref can now be used for any unreferenced article about a village in ]. -] (]) 05:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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::actually, it's merely a partial copy of ], and I therefore put an A10 speedy tag on it. I got the clue by actually reading to the bottom, where it ends in the middle of sentence. FWIW, this automated notice is not appropriate for posting on noticeboards. I'm not sure we have one, so it's better to write something oneself, or even simpler, edit the notice after its placed. ''']''' (]) 21:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


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:@] Not sure if you saw the comment for the other proposed deletion of ], but looks like these villages articles may meet ]. I am not quite clear after reading ], but I am guessing that they need to be kept and not deleted. ] (]) 22:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Minor issue, but is there a way the wiki project userbox for this project can be reduced?
::I can't emphasize enough that it's very important that you need to put in a source before it can be deprodded. If you insist, and want to be difficult, I'll take it to ]. Again, the easy-peasy approach is to add a reference. Thank you for improving this project. ] (]) 01:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@] Oh I too support the proposed deletion for this page and other such minimally developed unsourced pages! But I was just highlighting what I saw & mentioned by the other editor regarding ]. ] (]) 12:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)


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I recently started an article on ], an eighteenth century Telugu poet, seeking to preserve material up for deletion. Any help in expanding it, adding the name in Telugu script, and searching about whether she has an article on a sister project would be appreciated. - ] - ] 18:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)


P.S. So many PRODed article messages here. ] <sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 05:15, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== ] poet. Can you help? ==


:We Wikipedians are in the process of cleaning up a 15-year backlog of unsourced and unimproved articles. I plan to take a two-week break over the Christmas holidays, but I'm still volunteering on my birthday. ] (]) 14:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
The article on Bengali poet ] has been tagged as an unreferenced biography of a living person since July 2008, which is the current focus month of the ]. I have tried, and failed, to find any ] to support this text. There are more details on ]. I'm posting here in the hope that someone might be kind enough to take a look and help determine the subject's notability and provide at least one reliable source. If it stays unreferenced much longer, it may be nominated for deletion.--] (]) 21:39, 8 December 2010 (UTC)-
:This article has now been ].--] (]) 23:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC) ::Left unsaid is that many of the single purpose accounts who created these articles and pages are no longer volunteering. It's an excellent example of ]. ] (]) 14:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)


== More eyes at ] please ==
== Sanskrit alphabet composition (]): How form conjuncts "kri" and "stu"? ==


See ] regarding the page protection. Would be good if some experienced editors could add the article to their watchlist. ] (]) 19:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I've created a new page at ] for a notable (and multiple award-winning) Sanskrit poem. I'd like to express the name of the poem itself in Devanagiri script. However, even after viewing the ] page, I'm not sure how to create the necessary conjuncts where several letters are written together. I've succeeded in making kr, but not kri. Similarly, I've made st, but not stu. So the Sanskrit version of the name looks miserable, as I've just stuck in "i" and "u" as placeholders: "{{lang-sa|क्रiस्तuभागवतम}}". Can the two needed conjuncts even be formed within WP? Any suggestions? Or if anyone knows how to simply implement such conjuncts, the text in question is on line 1 of the lede. Many thanks -- ] (]) 06:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


:Done, also welcome back! {{Ping|Abecedare}}. - ] (]) 00:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
: Heh, I'd just fixed the page before noticing your message here. For future reference, see ] (or the rest of the page), or the external links at ], or any online transliteration tool such as . Regards, ] (]) 06:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


== ] ==
::Great! And I copied our interchange to the article's talk page, for future reference (since one might want to add more Sanskrit text, e.g., verses or canto titles). Many thanks -- ] (]) 07:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


Expert input needed please at ], thanks. ] (]) 16:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
== Special characters in article names ==


== ] ==
I am quite curious about the special characters in article names pertaining to Tamil literature. I understand that spelling this way helps with pronunciation. However, in my opinion the article names should use a common spelling found on the net. A pronunciation help or an audio file might be a useful addition.


The articles include most listed in this template: {{tl|Sangam literature}}. --<font color="Orange"><b>]</b></font><sup><i> <font color="green">]</font></i></sup> 16:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC) I can't find any English language sources. Can you please help? ] (]) 04:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)


:I didn't get any results searching on . Searching for "konam" only gives 2 results, neither of which are in Tamil Nadu. -] (]) 07:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
: Er, common spelling found ''on the net''? We'd have to move a lot of articles to misspelt titles if that were a criterion. :-) (The spelling "Paul Erdös" is about five times more common than "]", yet the latter is the correct spelling and the article title.) I of course agree that if we find that there is a single simple spelling that is overwhelmingly common in sources that discuss the subject, that's what we should use. But it seems that at least some of these ancient names are discussed (in English) mostly in scholarly literature, which tends to use some accurate transliteration with a few diacritic marks here and there. So if it's the name with diacritics that's more common in the sources, that's what we should use, rather than one loose approximation out of several. (What's the problem with special characters, BTW? I don't see anyone arguing that it's better to remove them from European names with diacritics, like the aforementioned ], or ], or ], or ], or…) Whatever the name, we'll always have all variant spellings redirect to the actual article, so I don't see a strong argument for having the article title ''not'' be an accurate transliteration. In fact, the large text of the title is where the diacritic marks are easiest to see, and hence most useful. :-) (Nothing that I said applies to names that ''are'' commonly discussed in English outside the scholarly literature, and always with the same spelling.) ] (]) 17:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::I see what you mean. However, to be honest, I have never seen these words spelt with diacritics, be it in text books or when they make it in the news. I did a search through Google books with Akanaṉūṟu and once again I don't find any hits for it but rather for , , and . Of course it would have been wise to search on Google scholar but I am not able to do it as the scholar thinks am a virus. I will have to try that later. Nevertheless, I am almost certain that the results would be similar. FYI, Tamil Nadu Stateboard (Government run) uses . --<font color="Orange"><b>]</b></font><sup><i> <font color="green">]</font></i></sup> 18:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


== Bechar Bhadani ==
::: Actually, this profuse multiplicity of spellings, characteristic of Tamil, only convinces me of the utility of using a standard spelling (short of titling the article in Tamil characters). :-) ] (]) 19:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:::: Well if Akananuru has 3200 hits on Google books and the highest, that should obviously be the article's name. The other spellings that I have pointed are way smaller in number (with Agananuru being the second with 480). These should be redirects and may be spelt out as alternate names in the article. --<font color="Orange"><b>]</b></font><sup><i> <font color="green">]</font></i></sup> 19:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::::: The special characters in the names are ]. An regular English reading Indian/Tamil is told about Patiṉeṇkīḻkaṇakku, he/she may find to understand it is just Pathinenkilkanakku with fancy (read "scholarly") characters. I would prefer an Indian English spelling instead.--] <sup> ] </sup> 05:12, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


I'd be grateful for any pointers about the notability or otherwise of this Gujarati politician ]. I came across the article during my general monitoring of unreferenced BLPs, and declined a BLPPROD on the basis that there was one source and a subsequent PROD on the basis that there were some potentially reasonable looking sources on the first page of a Google search. I will look into those a bit more, but if anyone had better knowledge of the subject and could give an informal "yeah, notable" or "no, almost certainly not notable" I would appreciate it (this is not an area of expertise for me!). Cheers, ] (]) 10:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
== I hate Indians - Hindus are a beastly people with a beastly religion ==


== Good article reassessment for ] ==
] is currently undergoing a ] review and I would like to add back content quoting Churchill on Indians and the Bengal famine of 1943.
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 19:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
{{cquote|According to a book authored by Madhusree Mukherjee, ] deliberately ignored pleas for emergency food aid for millions in Bengal and left them to starve causing the deaths of millions. Mukherjee attributes Churchill's behavior to his racist views, who is known to have made statements like "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion." Mukherjee suggests that Churchill's racist hatred toward Indians was due to his loving for the British Empire which he would rather destroy than let go.(Nelson:2010:p 1)}}
and I think it's a substantial piece of information that can enhance the article. I am trying to re-instate the content - please join the discussion at ] to enhance the quality of discussion and help in reaching a consensus on whether this content should be included in the article. ] (]) 01:43, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

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A thought-provoking interview of Rajdeep Sardesai . I remember him being cocky about it a year or two ago. Now he sounds completely despondent. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:14, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, about 9 to 10 years ago, Indian media became deprecated. Bearian (talk) 15:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Please see Misplaced Pages:ICTFSOURCES and User:Ms Sarah Welch/sandbox/Paid news and private treaties. Bearian (talk) 15:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Even on Misplaced Pages they are mostly unusable for establishing any form of notability, not to mention how most of them support the ruling party. - Ratnahastin (talk) 15:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
This month, Caravan profiled News18 and it cannot be nearer to truth. The amount of ludicrous junk they have pushed on Sambhal Mosque boggles my mind. Probably, nothing except The Indian Express, The Hindu, and The Dainik Bhaskar are worth relying upon anymore. Upd Edit (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
The freedom allowed for each media house has been circumscribed individually. Nobody is immune. Even we are not. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Greeshma Kuthar, a freelance journalist who in my opinion produced the best reporting on the Manipur violence, also made a lot of remarks on the state of media coverage in an interview with Frontliine. There is also full transcript of the interview.

She didn't get into it in the interview, but revealed on twitter several times that she had a lot of difficulty getting her articles published even after she wrote them. We can only imagine why. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Gandhali

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Added a ref, de-prodded since it now meets WP:NGEO, and removed unsourced fluff from the article. The same ref can now be used for any unreferenced article about a village in Jalgaon district. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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Unreferenced and unimproved 15 years. The Bhavani taluk does not exist any more, and the Mylambadi subdivision does not exist. Unverified, run of the mill, very small village. Not enough information to merge.

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@Bearian Not sure if you saw the comment for the other proposed deletion of Gandhali, but looks like these villages articles may meet WP:NGEO. I am not quite clear after reading WP:NGEO, but I am guessing that they need to be kept and not deleted. Asteramellus (talk) 22:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
I can't emphasize enough that it's very important that you need to put in a source before it can be deprodded. If you insist, and want to be difficult, I'll take it to WP:AfD. Again, the easy-peasy approach is to add a reference. Thank you for improving this project. Bearian (talk) 01:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
@Bearian Oh I too support the proposed deletion for this page and other such minimally developed unsourced pages! But I was just highlighting what I saw & mentioned by the other editor regarding WP:NGEO. Asteramellus (talk) 12:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Srinivasa Higher Secondary School, Melaiyur

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P.S. So many PRODed article messages here. Sparkle and Fade edits 05:15, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

We Wikipedians are in the process of cleaning up a 15-year backlog of unsourced and unimproved articles. I plan to take a two-week break over the Christmas holidays, but I'm still volunteering on my birthday. Bearian (talk) 14:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Left unsaid is that many of the single purpose accounts who created these articles and pages are no longer volunteering. It's an excellent example of Brandolini's law. Bearian (talk) 14:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

More eyes at Zakir Hussain please

See my note regarding the page protection. Would be good if some experienced editors could add the article to their watchlist. Abecedare (talk) 19:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Done, also welcome back! @Abecedare:. - Ratnahastin (talk) 00:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Banajiga

Expert input needed please at Talk:Balija#Proposed merge of Banajiga into Balija, thanks. Wikishovel (talk) 16:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Nalloorkonam

I can't find any English language sources. Can you please help? Bearian (talk) 04:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

I didn't get any results searching on the indian census site. Searching for "konam" only gives 2 results, neither of which are in Tamil Nadu. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Bechar Bhadani

I'd be grateful for any pointers about the notability or otherwise of this Gujarati politician Bechar Bhadani. I came across the article during my general monitoring of unreferenced BLPs, and declined a BLPPROD on the basis that there was one source and a subsequent PROD on the basis that there were some potentially reasonable looking sources on the first page of a Google search. I will look into those a bit more, but if anyone had better knowledge of the subject and could give an informal "yeah, notable" or "no, almost certainly not notable" I would appreciate it (this is not an area of expertise for me!). Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 10:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Temper (film)

Temper (film) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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