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Moo. Just don't be a jerk and then Wikilawyer your ass off.
I saw that you commented on the incorrect naming of and in the ] article. I agree with you here. I can't think of a better name for the era off the top of my head, though, so I think the best thing to do would be to bring the issue up on ], the ] where we try to coordinate work on video game-related articles. We can use your help, so please consider joining us if you have the time.


==Thompson/Nashua==
Note that you can sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which expands to your name and the time of posting. If you need help with something, a good place to look is the ]. Also feel free to drop any questions you might have in reply to this or on my ]. Enjoy your stay! ] 16:39, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
I had to revert your addition, because we can't reliably source it, making it ]. WP isn't for breaking original news. I think you can probably file a report about your encounter on Wikinews however. - ] 01:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:Done. http://en.wikinews.org/Fred_Thompson_to_Announce_His_Candidacy_on_June_28th - ] 01:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


== Tony Blair vandalism? ==
Back to you on ]. ] 12:12, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)


What vandalism? This IP address hasn't edited the main article, only asked a question on the Talk page! --] 01:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
==NPOV==
:Trolling a talk page with inappropriate commentary is unsatisfactory. - ] 01:53, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey MSTCrow, the magazines that you site are pollitical magazines, and as such either advertize their leanings or are specifically designed to have a specific slant that is generally accepted, even by their own publishers. Time is not a pollitical magazine, and does not advertize itself to be a pollitical magazine. To state that it has any leanings, left or right, is therefore completely subjective. A communist might consider Time to be conservative, a republican might consider it liberal. Misplaced Pages cannot take a stand on wether TIME is left or right of center. If you feel that stating time is left of center is essential to the article, State it as "Some people feel that time is a left of center newsmagazine" or something to that affect. We cannot state the pollitical leanings of an admittedly general newsmagazine.
] 17:47, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)


== ECT == == Wikicide ==
You write in ]:
:ECT was used as a tool of repression in the former USSR, and the use of ECT is outlawed in many countries.


If you're upset with the way an afd turned out, you should probably take it to ]. Accusing the closing admin of ] is probably not the best move, especially when that very same admin is a regular closer of SSP cases. I would suggest you withdraw your case, and request speedy under G7 of your accusation at ] which could be seen as a personal attack, and head over to ] instead. Just some friendly advice, don't accuse the admins! ] <sup>(]'''-''']'''-'''])</sup> 00:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree with you on the first part -- ECT, along with the rest of psychiatry, was used repressively in the USSR -- but can you name some countries where ECT is outlawed, with cites, please, to support the other part of the sentence? -- ] 11:05, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
:Admins and bureaucrats have a habit of being frequently caught sockpuppeteering. This may or may not be the case here, but it is suspicious, and worth looking into. Noting suspicious behavior of an admin can hardly be qualified as a personal attack. See http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks for criteria. If he's not the sockpuppeteer, that's fine, I certainly have nothing against him personally. The AfD clearly was badly mishandled by one of the newer Misplaced Pages editors, and as ] is clearly a sock, it has to be someone. With the current evidence, ] appears to be the most likely candidate at this point in time. ] might be closing sockpuppet cases, but he doesn't have checkuser status (http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Listusers/checkuser). - ] 00:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::And that's not wikiciding. Look up wikicide on Encyclopedia Dramatica. Some censor happy overlord blocked hyperlinking to ED. - ] 00:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
:I still think its suicide (on Misplaced Pages -> my own definition of wikicide), and a bad idea. Editors are granted sysop status because they've been trusted by the community to handle the admin tools with responsibility. Accusing an admin straightforward with nothing more than a single "suspicious" event, can and often is, seen as harassing an admin. I looked at the history of your SSP case, and noticed initially you listed it without naming a puppeteer. I'm just trying to help, as it seems as though your actions might be a little hasty, when there might be better alternatives. Are you sure you want this case forever tied to your username in the future? If you're ever in an RfA, this could come up. Just trying to help! ] <sup>(]'''-''']'''-'''])</sup> 01:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::Editors are not granted sysop or admin status "because they've been trusted by the community to handle the admin tools with responsibility." It is impossible on a project of this scale, with near zero applied managerial principles, for any single person to be trusted by the entire community. It only takes the most minute fraction of the total number of editors on Misplaced Pages to elevate someone to admin or above, often with disastrous results. I understand and appreciate that you're trying to help, but it's in the history, and without it being purged and whiting out WikiCite and Google, it's not ever going to disappear. I've been here over 3 years. I've seen Misplaced Pages get worse or stabilize, but rarely improve. If other users want to RfA me for some reason, ok, but I'm not going to RfA myself, and Misplaced Pages is way too much of an out of control mess to be all that attractive for me to take a leadership position in. I tidy things up and make correction. I don't enjoy playing new Secretary of State. - ] 01:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


:::Hi there. I understand you're upset about the AfD. If that's the case, I'd suggest taking it up at ]. It's by no means a clear-cut case - I explained my reasoning in the AfD close, but it's a gray area. I'm not infallible; I make judgement calls, and there are mechanisms for reviewing those calls if you disagree with them. As to the sockpuppetry allegation, I find it ridiculous, but it's your right to file one and I won't take it as a personal attack or harassment. Certainly admins are not ''de facto'' above reproach or incapable of sockpuppetry, but you have to admit that the accusation is not just a logical leap but a gigantic assumption of bad faith. For the record, I saw a request on ] for an admin to close the AfD. I watch AN/I; I went to close the AfD. I'm perfectly capable of nominating articles for deletion without using a sockpuppet; I do it every now and again. I agree with you that AMDZone is probably someone's sockpuppet, but it's not mine. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 04:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
== ] ==


==Link spam==
You remark that it's not seen as a credible party. I think that's true, but it's hardly neutral. Do you think you could reword that -- maybe in terms of their small percentage of the vote? -- to something a little more objective? -- ] | ] 23:57, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
] *is* vandalism. See also ]. Please work your links into relevant sections as references. Thanks. ] 01:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'd be interested to know which of the given criteria you have interpreted as being applicable in this instance. As the links were not intergrated into the article body, however, I do see the logic of your position, and may get around to adding them to the "conservatism" section per your request. - ] 01:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


== Your post on my talk page == == Your allegation of sockpuppetry by {{User|MastCell}} ==


I have closed this discussion as a frivolous nomination on your part. It ''is'' important for Misplaced Pages to root out violators of the ] policy, and administrators such as ] have been found to be abusive sockpuppeteers. However, if you wish to accuse an established administrator of such a violation, you need '''compelling evidence''', not just a passing suspicion.
Has been removed per my policy. Unsigned posts are considered counterproductive and are removed. --] 05:22, 21 May 2005 (UTC)


It's possible that the nominator of the AFD was generally an IP editor who created an account because anons can't create AFD pages. More likely, as MastCell suggested, he's the sock of some other established user. But if MastCell's arguments in his own defense weren't enough, let me point out one more thing.
== Could you please help me? ==


Theoretically, if MastCell were a ], he could have just deleted the article without telling anyone. Why would he take the time to nominate the article through a sock, and then delete the article ''against'' the majority vote in the discussion (which, by the way, was the correct decision)? Think carefully before you accuse someone of policy violation again. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I need some help with ] article. I requesting help because I supose you are an English native speaker and you can tell me if the text is biased or not, from you point of view.


:No hard feelings from my end... I understand you're not happy with the AfD; I've been there. Take it to ], is my advice if you want another set of eyes to look at it. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 05:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
== Could you please help me? - 2 ==


== Your edit to ] ==
Thank you very much. Some considerations (excuses for my English):
* The MST occupies land that was acquired through legitimate means. MST argue that they occupie "not productive" lands and that this kind of land must be expropriate. However sometimes MST occupies lands that are productive and that are used by their owners. Some owners lost their properties to the MST and they cannot complain to anybody. The police cannot fight against the MST sometimes, and the goverment (left) rules for the MST.


What is the basis for your claim that "The "consensus" is someting on the order of 1 in 10 climate scientists?" This is certainly not something I've ever heard, and the ], which concluded that the chances that human activity is the primary cause of climate change is over 90%, certainly seems to contradict you. I believe you are mistaken in your statement; if not, could you please provide proof to the contrary? -] 05:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The MST is a revolutionary Marxist/Communist inspired group. They use the Land Reformation as a excuse for their radical agenda. Like other left radical groups or muslim radical groups, they try to be nice for media and they show that they are just "good" guys fighting against the "bad" guys (everyone who is not Communist or anti-USA or for-Chavez or for-Castro). The population was nice to the movement (including me) at the begining. However, in recent days the movement has lost some popular support because of their radical agenda. The MST does a lot of marketing and propaganda. The MST receive founds from international NGOs (from Europe and USA). Some radical left publications like IndyMedia and Granma defend the movement (and some of these people have access to Misplaced Pages articles).
:1) Not everyone that is listed on the IPCC reports is actually in agreement with the results issued by the political layer. Many of the scientists listed as contributors disagree with the findings, and others are peripherally involved, not having taken a position one way or the other. Anyone that has come into contact with it is generally listed as a contributor to give the appearance of critical mass.
:2) I got it slightly wrong. According to Dr. Benny Paiser, senior lecturer at Liverpool's John Moores University, who reviewed nearly 1,000 papers since the early 1990s, 1/3rd back the "consensus" view, and only 1% do so explicitly. Ergo, the "consensus" view is anything but, as a conensus view is some sort of percentage well over 50%, not 1%-33%. - ] 16:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
::It's also occurred to me that when there is actual consensus, there is rarely debate about the existence of said consensus. Using real-world examples, the theory that HIV causes AIDs, and the theory that high cholesterol is bad for your health, are both consensus scientific viewpoints. Both are subject to debate and criticism. However, their challengers do not challenge the existence of consensus, but the factual basis upon which the consensus rests. When it comes to man-made global warming, you have both. - ] 01:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I still do not think that it's correct to claim that no consensus exists. Just because there's debate about the consensus doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and I have heard of at least one study that had practically the opposite conclusion of the one you cited - it concluded that about 50% of the articles about climate change in popular magazines and such questioned the consensus, but only something like 2% in scholarly journals did. I'm afraid I can't remember its name at the moment though. At any rate, many Misplaced Pages articles reflect the consensus, such as ], and I think if you really want to challenge it, Jim Inhofe's page isn't the place to do it. -] 21:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::You are exhibiting a logical fallacy. First you admit that the existence of consensus is debatable, and then that consensus exists because it exists, or because you say/want it to exist. You are not even aware of the actual content of the latest IPCC report. That is not sound reasoning. The Inhofe page isn't challenging anything. It is simply reflecting the current state of affairs. - ] 22:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Sorry if I was unclear: by "debate" I meant "people saying it doesn't exist." However, the vast majority do not hold this view - consensus doesn't have to be unanimous. How have you come to the conclusion that I am "not aware" of the content of the IPCC report? It clearly indicates that a consensus exists on global warming, and there is no real debate, just a small number of high-profile detractors (such as the ]) to the consensus on global warming. Your assessment of the "current state of affairs" as "the "consensus" is someting on the order of 1 in 10 climate scientists" lies nowhere near the truth. But, like I said, if you want to debate this point, bring it up somewhere more appropriate, like ]. Simply making a clearly inflammatory edit like changing "scientific consensus" to "mass media consensus" without establishing consensus on the change on the talk page is certainly not proper Misplaced Pages behavior. -] 22:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::You are stating that anything that doesn't agree with your views are "inflammatory." I have located my source that indicates ''fewer'' than 1 in 10 climate scientists believe climate change is primarily caused by human activity, a Dennis Bray, climate analyst from Germany. He had submitted these results from an international study to Science magazine, which rejected it as it "didn't fit with what they were intending to publish." This contradicts your OR that the 1 in 10 figure "lies nowhere near the truth." I also would request that you read the actual IPCC reports, and not only the political prefaces, or worse, third-party reports of what the IPCC does or does not state. I have come to the conclusion that you are not aware of the content of the IPCC report in that much of what you appear to think is supported by the IPCC report is not in actuality supported in the said report, or at least not to the level of certainty that you think it is. This is why reading primary sources is so important. - ] 00:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Here is the Dennis Bray paper, for your review: http://downloads.heartland.org/17407.pdf. - ] 02:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


== RE: Fox News Channel Reversion ==
I think that what I am asking is fair. I am just a guy and I can't dispute alone, and show other point of views (which are fair in my humble opinion) with a big network which is nice to the MST.


I find your reasoning flawed. I have never seen a instance where a unbalanced source is appropriate in a Encyclopaedia. Please get a better source about that report and I have no problem with it. ] 04:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I added some information below:


:It's false, how is he suppose to get better sources for lies! How dare you ask the impossible of him. ] 06:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


== Fox News Citation Response. ==
===MST links to Hugo Chávez and anti-Americanism===
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It's a little bit odd you jumped from Slashdot to find me on Misplaced Pages, though it makes total sense. Here's my reply to your "source":
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Oh, pulling it out of somebody else's ass? Ann Coulter? Really? Wow, you should have said you pulled it out of your own ass.


Also, you're making a distinctly different claim than she claims the book made.
===Others===


-- "Even employees of Fox News, which is widely regarded as a conservative channel, donate 81 percent of their contributions to Democrats."
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81% of contributions are made to Democrats is the claim. 81% of employees donate to Democrats is a massively different claim (really MASSIVE). In fact, I would be astounded if 50% of run of the mill employees donated to anybody. Also, note that the claim is "81 percent of their contributions" - beyond the obvious problem the book has of lumping most charity organizations as "democrats" even though they are just non-profit and work toward the common good. There's the problem that Democrats are usually poorer and get by with large numbers of small donations. If you looked at my donation history you would find roughly 4 donations toward "Democrats" -- if you think that it is anywhere close to one $5000 donation, you're kidding yourself. The vast majority of donations are grassroots little 25 and 50 dollar donations.
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And again, they aren't the ones making the decisions. They are the working stiffs, the camera men and wardrobe people... they are the nuts and bolts who work to put food on their tables. They aren't the ones who supply Fox News with their trademark bias. And number of donations is a completely stupid metric.
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Lies, damned lies, statistics and this idiotic bullshit.
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The statistic may well be true, but saying 81% of employees are democrats is obviously wrong (and not even close to what the original statistic said). Also, the implication that those are the employees who are making the decisions is completely off-base.<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:57, 29 July 2007</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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:If anyone stumbles across this, I request that a personal attack review not be conducted against ], as this is a CC from a ] post, and this should be handled on Slashdot via user moderation and meta-moderation. I have responded to his post on Slashot. I also believe personal attack claims are often attempts at wikilawyering to shut out opposition, and am very suspicious of their implementation. However, if ] attempts to be elevated to the level of administrator, I request that the above be submitted as evidence in disfavor of the hypothetical request. - ] 19:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
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::I request that you learn the difference between shredding your nonsense citations, of misapprehending Ann Coulter reviewing a hack book with misleading information as a personal attack against you. Oy. ] 06:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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== FNC (part 3) ==
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Please read the ] when adding information to wiki articles. Ann Coultier's blog is ''not'' a reliable source, and the claims she makes in the article (as well as the book it references) are obviously biased and, frankly, flat out wrong. There are countless academic studies (that are peer reviewed) that contradict the dubious claims made in a for-profit (and not peer reviewed) book (fiction). I would also counsel reading the ]. Thanks! /] 10:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
* - An international movement, isnt'it?
:The NPOV policy does not prohibit sources or citations that disagree with your personal POV. Books are allowable sources, and being for-profit does not discount a source. If you can locate an academic study that contradicts my source, you can add that to the article. Stating that it's "fiction" without any supporting evidence is in very bad form. - ] 19:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


== Account age for RfA ==
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Concerning some of your comments on recent RfAs about account age, what do you consider an appropriate amount of time for an editor to have an account before considering adminship? I think it would be more constructive to let the users know how they do not meet your criteria. ] ]/] 20:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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:A year, possibly. - ] 20:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::Is there a reason in particular, such as a display of dedication to the project, that you feel a length of time like this is necessary? I think it's still possible for editors to gain the necessary experience in less than a year, but you may disagree. ] ]/] 20:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I do not believe an editor less than a year old, generally speaking, would have full familiarity with the Misplaced Pages bureaucracy and its personalities, or has had enough first-hand experience with abuses of power to fully appreciate the proper and conservative wielding of that power once it has been granted to them. Although in your case, it is of interest that you appear to value transparentness in your actions as an administrator, logging any and all actions you have taken in an administrative capacity, for easy public review. - ] 20:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
::::That is something I value, and something I think Wikipedians should value. Administrators are trusted by the community, so displaying a log of administrative actions seems to fall hand-in-hand with that. You may have realized that I've only been around for about 8 months, which was why I was curious about your opinion. Thank you for clarifying it. ] ]/] 20:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


== Coal ==
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Even you must be aware that linking "coal as a cause of global warming" to one specific minor group, e.g. RealClimate, is blatantly misleading. It's like saying: "According to Bryant Gumble, the sky is blue", it suggests the authority for the position falls only on the specific speaker even though the position is much more widely held. It is a factual statement that coal is blamed for global warming (even if you don't believe it to be true, you certainly must acknowledge that many people do blame it). ] 19:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
===Some newspapers===
:Yes, it is a factual statement that coal is blamed for global warming, but also inaccurate. The who or what doing the blaming, or a representative grouping thereof, must be mentioned to ensure the maximum level of accuracy possible. As per the editing notes, if you can find others or a representative grouping to list, then do so. I have increased the specificity of the sentence. This is desirable. The previous revision was misleading in that it implied that everyone supported the contention, whereas this is not the case. The sky analogy is a false one; to begin with, the sky is not actually blue. - ] 20:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::I have reworked the introductory paragraph into a NPOV, one that acknowledges both sides and advocates neither. Please see the ] talk page as well. Thanks. - ] 20:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


"Widely regarded" would be considered inaccurate and "weasel words" if used in the article body. If a person or persons believe the usage of coal is leading to global warming, then they should be cited as believing so, ensuring that the person or person's being cited are in actual agreement with the proposition. This would be more effective, I believe, in maintaining accuracy and reliability. Also, please consider creating an account on Misplaced Pages. Thanks. - ] 16:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
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:Moved from IP talk page. I have no interest in purchasing an account. I think Skyemoor gave a good summation of my concerns. As to the above discussion, about coal causing global warming being a factual but inaccurate statement - make up your mind, it is either factual or inaccurate but not both. However, please carefully note that the coal article does not say "coal causes global warming" it says CO2 "is considered the primary cause of global warming". It is a subtle but important distinction. If you eliminate all coal burning you may or may not impact global warming. Ditto for oil. It all depends on the quantities involved. While "is considered" is definitely weasel wording, don't forget that all the experts got together recently and issued a report (IPCC) saying that they are "90% sure" that human activity is causing global warming. So some element of weasel wording is necessary. Personally I would send anyone who was not 100% sure back to grammar school to review elementary math and science. ] 03:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


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Greetings! I am trying to translate the article Brazilian vote-for-cash scandal from Portuguese to English. The article is very detailed and it was complimented on some journalists was complimented on some journalists . I would like to have some help from an English speaker so he can revise some parts of the text. I will appreciate any help or comments. If you can participate I will be very gratefull. If you can help me, please go to ] and do some editions. Thank you very much! --] 12:12, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
==Re: Nazi (sic) Porn==
<cite id=Re:_Nazi_(sic)_Porn_reply_1> </cite> Yes, but there's no evidence of its notability. &mdash; ]] 13:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


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You'll have to show me the edit in question, also you might want to check out ]. Vandalism is a very misused word around here nowadays. ] 10:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


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== You're invited: Women's History Edit-a-thons in Massachusetts this March ==
I notice your oppose vote on ]. If you are opposed the the role of bureaucrats you can post a message on ] or ], but simply opposing all bureaucrat nominations is not the way to go about it and will possably be looked upon badly by other users. I can assure you that the position of bureaucrat is only given to the most trusted users. If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me. ] 11:03, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:I disagree. Yes, it is a good idea to post a message in Talk, but at the same time, I have a responsibility to myself to vote against nominations for what I believe is an inherently abusive position.
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:::What reason do you have to believe the position of bureaucrat is "inherently abusive position"? Do you feel that bureaucrats have been abusing their position at all? As ] asked you, " how would you handle people being assigned technical rights except by designating trusted users who we believe would do the job without abusing it?". Do you believe every user should have this priviledge?
::::Who is the "we" that decides which users are capable of doing the job without abusing it? I wonder how long before abusive users slip through, and quickly begin to vet other abusive users for such a position.
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::::::In answer to your question, the 'we' are us; the Misplaced Pages community. Anyone can vote. It is true that 'abusive users' can also vote, but if you look at the archives for ] and ] you will see that they are in the minority. Sure, a vandal or troll could nominate themself for admin or bureaucrat, and get all their troll buddies to vote for them, but this will not succeed, as votes from such vandals or trolls are disregarded. Given the extremely high standards that a bureaucrat nominee goes through, and the fact that you can't become a bureaucrat without being an admin first, I would say that the chance of a bad user becoming a bureaucrat is almost zero.
::::::You didn't answer my question as to why you feel the position of bureaucrat is 'inherently abusive.' Your comments give me the feeling that you think we should have no more bureaucrats. Is this correct? ] 01:03, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, not only do I think we should have no more additional bureaucrats, I don't believe we should have ''any'' bureaucrats, period.
::::::::] 01:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well then who will be entrusted to promote users to admin status? ] 03:28, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Everday Misplaced Pages user's who choose to vote for them.
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::::::::::::That is precisely what happens. The bureaucrat's role is to count the votes and to do the actual change, but not by his/her own opinion, but by tabulating the votes. This is not an automated process --] 05:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:(resetting tabs) That is true, the job of the bureaucrat is to enact the will of the community, not to make the decision themselves. If we allowed any user to change the admin status of any other user, then the result would probably be chaos. To me it seems far better to entrust the promotion of admins to known, experienced users who we know will not go against the will of the community. ] 05:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


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It seems we have an interesting thing in common. We're some of the few people who identify themselves as hardcore libertarians and, at the same time, supporters of conservative parties/ideas. I found a couple of your userboxes I liked and so I added them to my ] and I took the liberty (pardon the pun) of adding the ] userbox to yours. No offense intended and none received if you want to remove it. Just wanted to introduce myself to a like-minded individual. :-) ] 18:09, 1 January 2006 (UTC)


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Dear Fellow Wikimedian,
''"It's fair use, and we are free to make what we want of our personal userbox as we see fit, corporate "guidelines" be damned. Keep Wiki Free!"''
I like...I like... Just so you know, there's <nowiki>{{User fair use}} and {{User copyright}}</nowiki> for you. Also: have you considered <nowiki>{{User ubx}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{user blank-N|ubx|This user communicates '''only''' via ''']'''.}}</nowiki>--] (]) 00:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the information you are trying to convey.
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Stop adding the protected template to pages that are not protected, and especially not to others' user pages. You will not be warned again. &mdash;] ] 18:59, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Cryptic, you're violating Wiki policy, and you and Sherool are being dealt with.
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Hi, I noticed that you made a comment on RfC concerning my recent deletions of religion and belief-related userboxes. If you have a dispute with me, the way to resolve it int he first instance is to come to my talk page and discuss it. Who knows, I might agree with you! --]|] 11:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
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:Tony, you went wild with the deletes, and pissed alot of people off. Deleting like crazy for an arbitrary reason without even mentioning it in talk is wrong. I think RFC at this point is warranted.
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Um... I, and not Tony Sidaway, was the one who deleted the RFC. Please... if you really ''must'' go through with this, format the thing like the other RFCs are made, with a statement of the dispute, evidence of disputed behaviour and evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute.
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Also, consider whether or not an RFC against Tony will produce any positive results or if it will just end up with a flame war. I am also disturbed by Tony's deletion of userboxes but still... is an RFC now the right way to go? ] ] 11:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


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:As someone whose often held up as wanting to eat Tony's liver, take this in the spirit it is intended: It's not going to work, especially when you start it like that. Slow down, breath deep. There is no rush. - ]]] 11:25, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
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::Well, get someone who knows how to do it and make it work. I'm doing my best.
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Look, I have now set up the format at ], but I will leave it to you to fill it out. Remember, you ''must'' also get another person to certify the basis for the dispute, that is another person who has tried and failed to solve the same problem. If not, the page ''will'' be deleted after 48 hours. ] ] 12:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ok, I've '''re''' set up the RFC, but I haven't linked it from the RFC page yet. Fill it out as you see fit, let some people who have been around for a while look over it to polish it a bit, then we'll link it from the main page. ''Then'' if it isn't double certified in twenty-four hours, it will get removed.


*], in the Digital Scholarship Commons on the second floor
:A lot of people have been going off half-cocked around here, including lots of people who should have know better. ] (like me) creating RFCs and RfArbs left right and center, moving pages, making wild accusations. Admins (like Tony) deleteing, restoring, making wild accusations. We want ''less'' of that and ''more'' thoughtful editing from everyone. We are all going to be here for years, decades probably. There is no rush.
*], in the Digital Scholarship Lab
*], where we will also be hosting a "how to conduct an edit-a-thon" session beforehand


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I want to thank you for helping me stop Quadell's power grab. That son of a bitch belongs in jail, '''not''' as a bureaucrat! ] should ''always immediately disqualify all nominees for Bureaucratiship.''


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The user Tod help me at the earlier revision. However I can need help soon since there is a lot of text that should be translated. I updated the English article of ] until November 16. The ] is covering January 2006 (the other guys broke the pages in another subpages, since the article got huge). There are other updates too. I will try to put something in my draft space soon. Look at the section: ].


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That article is incredible. A lot of people of Misplaced Pages pt is very excited about it. Thank you very much. Be in contact. --] 21:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
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I dont know if you have enough time or are too busy. Anyway, if you can would you please do a revision in the following article: ]?
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Thank you very much anyway. --] 13:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


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Although we also aren't hosting this year's Wikimania, we would like to let you know that Wikimania this year will be occurring in London in August:
Hi and thanks for the note. This ] fellow is really after me big time now - Chip Berlet, the far left pundit whose article I edited, seems to be one of his sacred cows. The only thing I did was change the Chip Berlet article to be more factual. The old version had a slick wording that made it sound like he was some vaunted legal expert and scholar. In fact he's only a college dropout just like Michael Moore. So I changed the article to make it clear he is NOT a lawyer and all hell breaks lose. First a couple liberal editors show up and start trying to undo it all even though it is true. Then Chip Berlet himself - he posts as ] shows up and starts trying to remove anything critical of him AND insulting me personally for adding it (Isn't people editing their own article forbidden on wikipedia!!)! Then one of the leftists deletes the entire paragraph I added, which contained nothing more than quotes of Berlet in his own words calling everybody who is not a liberal a fascist. I put it back and remarked that negative facts about Berlet were being censored, and Gamaliel reacts by threatening to ban me for it! I point out that he's letting all sorts of venom and insults slip from the liberals, and he ignores that and threatens to ban me again! The hypocrisy is palpable! How the hell did such a hot tempered left wing partisan ever get sys-op rights around here? -- Col. S
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:Where did Berlet edit his own article? According to the article history, the most recent edit he did was January 2nd, 2006, regarding a problem with Eyes and Eye's.
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Check out my talk page, and the bizarre ] list. ] 10:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


You are invited to join the ] on October 16! (drop-in any time, 6-9pm)--] (]) 18:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
:Well, it would seem that Gamaliel has quite a lot of time and discplineon his hands... Does Col. S know he's on his enemies list?
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You should consider chiming-in on the challenge to said admin at ]. Said person has now changed tactics, and is also accusing the Colonel of being a sockpuppet on the same page as the complaint. All is not lost, unless good men do nothing. Cheers. ] 00:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I've added a comment to the thread.
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Please see my . --] 02:08, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
And some more. --] 03:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
And some more. --] 03:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


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::I'm here because I saw the the above post at the AN/I. I don't know all the details of what is going on here but i want to say, at this point that "''If some of these userboxes are defaced or vandalized, be aware that the Misplaced Pages Nazis have decreed that any individual sentiments are to be rooted out and extinguished, stamped on, and burned. For these thugs, Misplaced Pages is everything, the Wikipedians are nothing.''" makes you look really bad. I strongly urge you to remove the warning.
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Hi. I've made some updates to your user page, and just want to say upfront that I'm not here to "pile on." In fact, what I did was keep GMaxwell's format and add most of your user boxes back in. If there is a place to express your opinions, it is, indeed, on your user page. Just don't let them define you. You're more than a collection of boxes, and if you feel strongly about the sentiments they express, I'd encourage you to write about it on your User Page instead of leaving things up to a box.
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Please note, I didn't place your subst'd boxes in the current page because it's a quite a bit of code to wade through, and if (as I suspect) many of them were deleted from Template space, I wouldn't feel right in adding them, myself. GMaxwell's actions were brusqe, but they were for the betterment of the encyclopedia. I hope you're able to resolve things with him, and I hope you take my actions in the helpful spirit in which they're intended. I will make no further edits to your user page. ]<sup>(])</sup> 17:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 00:50, 3 March 2023

/Archive 1 /Archive 2 /Archive 3 /Archive 4

Moo. Just don't be a jerk and then Wikilawyer your ass off.

Thompson/Nashua

I had to revert your addition, because we can't reliably source it, making it WP:OR. WP isn't for breaking original news. I think you can probably file a report about your encounter on Wikinews however. - Crockspot 01:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Done. http://en.wikinews.org/Fred_Thompson_to_Announce_His_Candidacy_on_June_28th - MSTCrow 01:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Tony Blair vandalism?

What vandalism? This IP address hasn't edited the main article, only asked a question on the Talk page! --90.192.92.21 01:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Trolling a talk page with inappropriate commentary is unsatisfactory. - MSTCrow 01:53, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikicide

If you're upset with the way an afd turned out, you should probably take it to DRV. Accusing the closing admin of sock puppetry is probably not the best move, especially when that very same admin is a regular closer of SSP cases. I would suggest you withdraw your case, and request speedy under G7 of your accusation at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/unknown which could be seen as a personal attack, and head over to deletion review instead. Just some friendly advice, don't accuse the admins! -wizzard2k 00:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Admins and bureaucrats have a habit of being frequently caught sockpuppeteering. This may or may not be the case here, but it is suspicious, and worth looking into. Noting suspicious behavior of an admin can hardly be qualified as a personal attack. See http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks for criteria. If he's not the sockpuppeteer, that's fine, I certainly have nothing against him personally. The AfD clearly was badly mishandled by one of the newer Misplaced Pages editors, and as AMDZone is clearly a sock, it has to be someone. With the current evidence, MastCell appears to be the most likely candidate at this point in time. MastCell might be closing sockpuppet cases, but he doesn't have checkuser status (http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Listusers/checkuser). - MSTCrow 00:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
And that's not wikiciding. Look up wikicide on Encyclopedia Dramatica. Some censor happy overlord blocked hyperlinking to ED. - MSTCrow 00:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I still think its suicide (on Misplaced Pages -> my own definition of wikicide), and a bad idea. Editors are granted sysop status because they've been trusted by the community to handle the admin tools with responsibility. Accusing an admin straightforward with nothing more than a single "suspicious" event, can and often is, seen as harassing an admin. I looked at the history of your SSP case, and noticed initially you listed it without naming a puppeteer. I'm just trying to help, as it seems as though your actions might be a little hasty, when there might be better alternatives. Are you sure you want this case forever tied to your username in the future? If you're ever in an RfA, this could come up. Just trying to help! -wizzard2k 01:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Editors are not granted sysop or admin status "because they've been trusted by the community to handle the admin tools with responsibility." It is impossible on a project of this scale, with near zero applied managerial principles, for any single person to be trusted by the entire community. It only takes the most minute fraction of the total number of editors on Misplaced Pages to elevate someone to admin or above, often with disastrous results. I understand and appreciate that you're trying to help, but it's in the history, and without it being purged and whiting out WikiCite and Google, it's not ever going to disappear. I've been here over 3 years. I've seen Misplaced Pages get worse or stabilize, but rarely improve. If other users want to RfA me for some reason, ok, but I'm not going to RfA myself, and Misplaced Pages is way too much of an out of control mess to be all that attractive for me to take a leadership position in. I tidy things up and make correction. I don't enjoy playing new Secretary of State. - MSTCrow 01:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I understand you're upset about the AfD. If that's the case, I'd suggest taking it up at deletion review. It's by no means a clear-cut case - I explained my reasoning in the AfD close, but it's a gray area. I'm not infallible; I make judgement calls, and there are mechanisms for reviewing those calls if you disagree with them. As to the sockpuppetry allegation, I find it ridiculous, but it's your right to file one and I won't take it as a personal attack or harassment. Certainly admins are not de facto above reproach or incapable of sockpuppetry, but you have to admit that the accusation is not just a logical leap but a gigantic assumption of bad faith. For the record, I saw a request on WP:AN/I for an admin to close the AfD. I watch AN/I; I went to close the AfD. I'm perfectly capable of nominating articles for deletion without using a sockpuppet; I do it every now and again. I agree with you that AMDZone is probably someone's sockpuppet, but it's not mine. MastCell 04:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Link spam

Link spam *is* vandalism. See also Misplaced Pages is not a link farm. Please work your links into relevant sections as references. Thanks. Jdb1972 01:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd be interested to know which of the given criteria you have interpreted as being applicable in this instance. As the links were not intergrated into the article body, however, I do see the logic of your position, and may get around to adding them to the "conservatism" section per your request. - MSTCrow 01:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Your allegation of sockpuppetry by MastCell (talk · contribs)

I have closed this discussion as a frivolous nomination on your part. It is important for Misplaced Pages to root out violators of the WP:SOCK policy, and administrators such as User:Runcorn have been found to be abusive sockpuppeteers. However, if you wish to accuse an established administrator of such a violation, you need compelling evidence, not just a passing suspicion.

It's possible that the nominator of the AFD was generally an IP editor who created an account because anons can't create AFD pages. More likely, as MastCell suggested, he's the sock of some other established user. But if MastCell's arguments in his own defense weren't enough, let me point out one more thing.

Theoretically, if MastCell were a rouge admin, he could have just deleted the article without telling anyone. Why would he take the time to nominate the article through a sock, and then delete the article against the majority vote in the discussion (which, by the way, was the correct decision)? Think carefully before you accuse someone of policy violation again. Shalom 03:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

No hard feelings from my end... I understand you're not happy with the AfD; I've been there. Take it to deletion review, is my advice if you want another set of eyes to look at it. MastCell 05:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to Jim Inhofe

What is the basis for your claim that "The "consensus" is someting on the order of 1 in 10 climate scientists?" This is certainly not something I've ever heard, and the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report, which concluded that the chances that human activity is the primary cause of climate change is over 90%, certainly seems to contradict you. I believe you are mistaken in your statement; if not, could you please provide proof to the contrary? -Elmer Clark 05:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

1) Not everyone that is listed on the IPCC reports is actually in agreement with the results issued by the political layer. Many of the scientists listed as contributors disagree with the findings, and others are peripherally involved, not having taken a position one way or the other. Anyone that has come into contact with it is generally listed as a contributor to give the appearance of critical mass.
2) I got it slightly wrong. According to Dr. Benny Paiser, senior lecturer at Liverpool's John Moores University, who reviewed nearly 1,000 papers since the early 1990s, 1/3rd back the "consensus" view, and only 1% do so explicitly. Ergo, the "consensus" view is anything but, as a conensus view is some sort of percentage well over 50%, not 1%-33%. - MSTCrow 16:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
It's also occurred to me that when there is actual consensus, there is rarely debate about the existence of said consensus. Using real-world examples, the theory that HIV causes AIDs, and the theory that high cholesterol is bad for your health, are both consensus scientific viewpoints. Both are subject to debate and criticism. However, their challengers do not challenge the existence of consensus, but the factual basis upon which the consensus rests. When it comes to man-made global warming, you have both. - MSTCrow 01:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I still do not think that it's correct to claim that no consensus exists. Just because there's debate about the consensus doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and I have heard of at least one study that had practically the opposite conclusion of the one you cited - it concluded that about 50% of the articles about climate change in popular magazines and such questioned the consensus, but only something like 2% in scholarly journals did. I'm afraid I can't remember its name at the moment though. At any rate, many Misplaced Pages articles reflect the consensus, such as Scientific opinion on climate change, and I think if you really want to challenge it, Jim Inhofe's page isn't the place to do it. -Elmer Clark 21:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
You are exhibiting a logical fallacy. First you admit that the existence of consensus is debatable, and then that consensus exists because it exists, or because you say/want it to exist. You are not even aware of the actual content of the latest IPCC report. That is not sound reasoning. The Inhofe page isn't challenging anything. It is simply reflecting the current state of affairs. - MSTCrow 22:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if I was unclear: by "debate" I meant "people saying it doesn't exist." However, the vast majority do not hold this view - consensus doesn't have to be unanimous. How have you come to the conclusion that I am "not aware" of the content of the IPCC report? It clearly indicates that a consensus exists on global warming, and there is no real debate, just a small number of high-profile detractors (such as the Oregon Petition) to the consensus on global warming. Your assessment of the "current state of affairs" as "the "consensus" is someting on the order of 1 in 10 climate scientists" lies nowhere near the truth. But, like I said, if you want to debate this point, bring it up somewhere more appropriate, like Scientific opinion on climate change. Simply making a clearly inflammatory edit like changing "scientific consensus" to "mass media consensus" without establishing consensus on the change on the talk page is certainly not proper Misplaced Pages behavior. -Elmer Clark 22:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
You are stating that anything that doesn't agree with your views are "inflammatory." I have located my source that indicates fewer than 1 in 10 climate scientists believe climate change is primarily caused by human activity, a Dennis Bray, climate analyst from Germany. He had submitted these results from an international study to Science magazine, which rejected it as it "didn't fit with what they were intending to publish." This contradicts your OR that the 1 in 10 figure "lies nowhere near the truth." I also would request that you read the actual IPCC reports, and not only the political prefaces, or worse, third-party reports of what the IPCC does or does not state. I have come to the conclusion that you are not aware of the content of the IPCC report in that much of what you appear to think is supported by the IPCC report is not in actuality supported in the said report, or at least not to the level of certainty that you think it is. This is why reading primary sources is so important. - MSTCrow 00:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Here is the Dennis Bray paper, for your review: http://downloads.heartland.org/17407.pdf. - MSTCrow 02:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: Fox News Channel Reversion

I find your reasoning flawed. I have never seen a instance where a unbalanced source is appropriate in a Encyclopaedia. Please get a better source about that report and I have no problem with it. - Mike Beckham 04:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

It's false, how is he suppose to get better sources for lies! How dare you ask the impossible of him. Tat 06:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Fox News Citation Response.

It's a little bit odd you jumped from Slashdot to find me on Misplaced Pages, though it makes total sense. Here's my reply to your "source":


Oh, pulling it out of somebody else's ass? Ann Coulter? Really? Wow, you should have said you pulled it out of your own ass.

Also, you're making a distinctly different claim than she claims the book made.

-- "Even employees of Fox News, which is widely regarded as a conservative channel, donate 81 percent of their contributions to Democrats."

81% of contributions are made to Democrats is the claim. 81% of employees donate to Democrats is a massively different claim (really MASSIVE). In fact, I would be astounded if 50% of run of the mill employees donated to anybody. Also, note that the claim is "81 percent of their contributions" - beyond the obvious problem the book has of lumping most charity organizations as "democrats" even though they are just non-profit and work toward the common good. There's the problem that Democrats are usually poorer and get by with large numbers of small donations. If you looked at my donation history you would find roughly 4 donations toward "Democrats" -- if you think that it is anywhere close to one $5000 donation, you're kidding yourself. The vast majority of donations are grassroots little 25 and 50 dollar donations.

And again, they aren't the ones making the decisions. They are the working stiffs, the camera men and wardrobe people... they are the nuts and bolts who work to put food on their tables. They aren't the ones who supply Fox News with their trademark bias. And number of donations is a completely stupid metric.

Lies, damned lies, statistics and this idiotic bullshit.

The statistic may well be true, but saying 81% of employees are democrats is obviously wrong (and not even close to what the original statistic said). Also, the implication that those are the employees who are making the decisions is completely off-base.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatarize (talkcontribs) 00:57, 29 July 2007

If anyone stumbles across this, I request that a personal attack review not be conducted against Tatarize, as this is a CC from a Slashdot post, and this should be handled on Slashdot via user moderation and meta-moderation. I have responded to his post on Slashot. I also believe personal attack claims are often attempts at wikilawyering to shut out opposition, and am very suspicious of their implementation. However, if Tatarize attempts to be elevated to the level of administrator, I request that the above be submitted as evidence in disfavor of the hypothetical request. - MSTCrow 19:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I request that you learn the difference between shredding your nonsense citations, of misapprehending Ann Coulter reviewing a hack book with misleading information as a personal attack against you. Oy. Tat 06:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

FNC (part 3)

Please read the reliable source guideline when adding information to wiki articles. Ann Coultier's blog is not a reliable source, and the claims she makes in the article (as well as the book it references) are obviously biased and, frankly, flat out wrong. There are countless academic studies (that are peer reviewed) that contradict the dubious claims made in a for-profit (and not peer reviewed) book (fiction). I would also counsel reading the neutral point of view policy. Thanks! /Blaxthos 10:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The NPOV policy does not prohibit sources or citations that disagree with your personal POV. Books are allowable sources, and being for-profit does not discount a source. If you can locate an academic study that contradicts my source, you can add that to the article. Stating that it's "fiction" without any supporting evidence is in very bad form. - MSTCrow 19:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Account age for RfA

Concerning some of your comments on recent RfAs about account age, what do you consider an appropriate amount of time for an editor to have an account before considering adminship? I think it would be more constructive to let the users know how they do not meet your criteria. Leebo /C 20:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

A year, possibly. - MSTCrow 20:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there a reason in particular, such as a display of dedication to the project, that you feel a length of time like this is necessary? I think it's still possible for editors to gain the necessary experience in less than a year, but you may disagree. Leebo /C 20:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I do not believe an editor less than a year old, generally speaking, would have full familiarity with the Misplaced Pages bureaucracy and its personalities, or has had enough first-hand experience with abuses of power to fully appreciate the proper and conservative wielding of that power once it has been granted to them. Although in your case, it is of interest that you appear to value transparentness in your actions as an administrator, logging any and all actions you have taken in an administrative capacity, for easy public review. - MSTCrow 20:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
That is something I value, and something I think Wikipedians should value. Administrators are trusted by the community, so displaying a log of administrative actions seems to fall hand-in-hand with that. You may have realized that I've only been around for about 8 months, which was why I was curious about your opinion. Thank you for clarifying it. Leebo /C 20:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Coal

Even you must be aware that linking "coal as a cause of global warming" to one specific minor group, e.g. RealClimate, is blatantly misleading. It's like saying: "According to Bryant Gumble, the sky is blue", it suggests the authority for the position falls only on the specific speaker even though the position is much more widely held. It is a factual statement that coal is blamed for global warming (even if you don't believe it to be true, you certainly must acknowledge that many people do blame it). Dragons flight 19:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is a factual statement that coal is blamed for global warming, but also inaccurate. The who or what doing the blaming, or a representative grouping thereof, must be mentioned to ensure the maximum level of accuracy possible. As per the editing notes, if you can find others or a representative grouping to list, then do so. I have increased the specificity of the sentence. This is desirable. The previous revision was misleading in that it implied that everyone supported the contention, whereas this is not the case. The sky analogy is a false one; to begin with, the sky is not actually blue. - MSTCrow 20:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I have reworked the introductory paragraph into a NPOV, one that acknowledges both sides and advocates neither. Please see the coal talk page as well. Thanks. - MSTCrow 20:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

"Widely regarded" would be considered inaccurate and "weasel words" if used in the article body. If a person or persons believe the usage of coal is leading to global warming, then they should be cited as believing so, ensuring that the person or person's being cited are in actual agreement with the proposition. This would be more effective, I believe, in maintaining accuracy and reliability. Also, please consider creating an account on Misplaced Pages. Thanks. - MSTCrow 16:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Moved from IP talk page. I have no interest in purchasing an account. I think Skyemoor gave a good summation of my concerns. As to the above discussion, about coal causing global warming being a factual but inaccurate statement - make up your mind, it is either factual or inaccurate but not both. However, please carefully note that the coal article does not say "coal causes global warming" it says CO2 "is considered the primary cause of global warming". It is a subtle but important distinction. If you eliminate all coal burning you may or may not impact global warming. Ditto for oil. It all depends on the quantities involved. While "is considered" is definitely weasel wording, don't forget that all the experts got together recently and issued a report (IPCC) saying that they are "90% sure" that human activity is causing global warming. So some element of weasel wording is necessary. Personally I would send anyone who was not 100% sure back to grammar school to review elementary math and science. 199.125.109.64 03:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

NIN WikiProject

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Republican Party

May I ask why you support the Republican Party? They have been damaging to our country for years. You, an atheist should know first hand. MagicBullet5 (talk) 20:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of LowerMyBills.com

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You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron

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deletion discussion

You participated in a previous discussion on the deletion of Anarchism and anarcho-capitalism. You may be interested that a new deletion review has begun at WP:Articles_for_deletion/Anarchism_and_anarcho-capitalism_(2nd_nomination). Tb (talk) 22:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

You're invited! New England Wikimedia General Meeting

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