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== The state of Indian media ==
] 22:24, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)


A thought-provoking interview of Rajdeep Sardesai . I remember him being cocky about it a year or two ago. Now he sounds completely despondent. -- ] (]) 19:14, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
== Non-Indians and working on Indian topics. ==


:Yes, about 9 to 10 years ago, Indian media became deprecated. ] (]) 15:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Is the decision to keep the list of Indians working on India-related topics and others separate a conscious one? What are the pros and cons? What do people think of it? In creating ] I chose not to make that distinction. I feel it makes people unwelcome.]&mdash;] ] 00:30, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
::Please see ] and ]. ] (]) 15:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
::Even on Misplaced Pages they are mostly ], not to mention how most of them ]. - ] (]) 15:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:This month, Caravan News18 and it cannot be nearer to truth. they have pushed on Sambhal Mosque boggles my mind. Probably, nothing except The Indian Express, The Hindu, and The Dainik Bhaskar are worth relying upon anymore. ] (]) 17:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:: The freedom allowed for each media house has been circumscribed individually. Nobody is immune. Even we are not. -- ] (]) 10:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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Greeshma Kuthar, a freelance journalist who in my opinion produced the best reporting on the ], also made a lot of remarks on the state of media coverage in . There is also of the interview.


She didn't get into it in the interview, but revealed on twitter several times that she had a lot of difficulty getting her articles published even after she wrote them. We can only imagine why. -- ] (]) 12:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
: I second IFaqeer. We can remove the distinction. -- ] 05:46, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
::The reason I set it up that way initially was that the Russian notice board I used to copy the things over had it that way. I might guess that it's there to distinguish people who are more likely to be knowledgable from people, like myself, who are definitely less authoritative but still interested in helping out. I have no objections to removing the distinction. --] 05:58, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:::Agreed. We should have no distinction. There are lot of people who might know more about Indian History and India related affairs more then many of us here. How about "India-related articles notice board" ? --] 07:33, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
::::I have merged the sections --] 03:56, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)


== ] of ] ==
== Lists of leaders and office-holders ==
]


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We need to
<blockquote>'''Unreferenced and unimproved 15 years. No reliable sources online Google news, newspapers, books, or scholar. Run of the mill, very small village. What little is on the page is trivia. Not enough useful information to merge.'''</blockquote>


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:*Add more South Asian leaders to ]
:*Add more South Asian leaders to ]


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]&mdash;] ] 04:57, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)


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== Incense ==


:Added a ref, de-prodded since it now meets ], and removed unsourced fluff from the article. The same ref can now be used for any unreferenced article about a village in ]. -] (]) 05:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Does anyone know the principle areas of India for the manufacture of ] or dhoop sticks? --


== ] of ] ==
From the top of my head, Mysore(vasu agarbathis(now acquired by ITC), govt sandalwood factory,etc have their base here). Bangalore, Delhi & Mumbai have some factories too, but i don't know any famous brand mfg there. ] 06:06, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
]


The article ] has been ]&#32;because of the following concern:
==Christmas==
<blockquote>'''Unreferenced and unimproved 15 years. The ] does not exist any more, and the ] subdivision does not exist. Unverified, run of the mill, very small village. Not enough information to merge.'''</blockquote>
Hi everybody! ] is a featured article candidate. I have added two lines about Christmas in India. If anybody can knows more, please contribute. ] 09:22, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)


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== ] ==


You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your ] or on ].
Hey all, some random IP just removed a few paragraphs from the article on Anhra Pradesh. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether the removed material should've been in the encyclopedia or not? --] 04:29, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the ], but other ]es exist. In particular, the ] process can result in deletion without discussion, and ] allows discussion to reach ] for deletion.<!-- Template:Proposed deletion notify --> ] (]) 20:26, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== Collaboration of the Week ==
Hey folks, how about starting an Indian Collaboration of the Week? Or better still, an Indo-Pak Collaboration of the Week? ] 06:26, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)


:@] Not sure if you saw the comment for the other proposed deletion of ], but looks like these villages articles may meet ]. I am not quite clear after reading ], but I am guessing that they need to be kept and not deleted. ] (]) 22:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
I cant agree more. I am seeing a whole lot of work put in by individual wikipedians on India related content. We must get together and edit collaboratively on one topic per week. I second you ]. Let us look for at least 10 wikipedians to support this initiative. We are now 2.
::I can't emphasize enough that it's very important that you need to put in a source before it can be deprodded. If you insist, and want to be difficult, I'll take it to ]. Again, the easy-peasy approach is to add a reference. Thank you for improving this project. ] (]) 01:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@] Oh I too support the proposed deletion for this page and other such minimally developed unsourced pages! But I was just highlighting what I saw & mentioned by the other editor regarding ]. ] (]) 12:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)


== ] of ] ==
I would like to propose that we start of with expanding the following article...
]
]. It has grown in content since the last few days. It really needs all our support considering the scale of the calamity.
Cheers ] 04:58, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:] is already being contributed to by many people (esp. by you). It's already a great article. I would prefer taking ], and converting them to the status of a near-featured article. Neverthless, ] would be a good idea for the first Indian Collaboration of the Week. Good Idea. Let's wait for other people to air their views.] 12:25, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)


The article ] has been ]&#32;because of the following concern:
::] asked me to give my opinion on this. Personally, I like the fact that anyone can contribute in any way they want to at any time and that I don't have to make any commitments to Misplaced Pages. But I am gladdened when I see people improving India-related articles on Misplaced Pages especially since a lot of them do need lot of work, lots aren't yet created. I'll be happy to do what I can for the India-related article collaboration of the week if and when it starts. But I don't think I'll take a lead in it. Just my 2 cents. --] 19:05, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
<blockquote>'''Fails ] and ]. Several searches with Google and sub-engines show nothing besides social media posts and ], which both fail ]. TL;DR, no sources, no notability.'''</blockquote>


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==Swamis, Sadhus, Gurus and Yogis==
Lately, I have been seen many articles on insignificant religious figures from India. ] is on ] page(]). But some non-Indians are voting keep, because they think that this man is well-known in India. I would like you folks to comment on the notability of these people, as I am planning to move them to Votes for deletion page:


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] 07:18, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)


P.S. So many PRODed article messages here. ] <sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 05:15, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:Nope. Never heard of them. Pass it on to VFD. ] 20:01, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)


:We Wikipedians are in the process of cleaning up a 15-year backlog of unsourced and unimproved articles. I plan to take a two-week break over the Christmas holidays, but I'm still volunteering on my birthday. ] (]) 14:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::I would not agree. Unless these are pure vanity articles, I would vote against deleting them. This is an encyclopedia and personally I believe that it is a good place to have information on topics, personalities, and issues that not everyone cares about. And think of a scenario where a Pope or a Shankar Acharya or, say, the Shahi Imam or the head of a religious foundation passes away (not to wish for that, but as a hypothetical), and we start turning to our favorite encyclopedia to find out about possible successors or someone who has been appointed to replace him/her/them. What if we had decided earlier that that person or persons were not "significant" enough for inclusion.
::Left unsaid is that many of the single purpose accounts who created these articles and pages are no longer volunteering. It's an excellent example of ]. ] (]) 14:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)


== More eyes at ] please ==
::My two cowry's worth.]&mdash;] ] 00:53, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)


See ] regarding the page protection. Would be good if some experienced editors could add the article to their watchlist. ] (]) 19:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I think the people listed above are more of quacks then sadhus --] 03:42, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)


:Done, also welcome back! {{Ping|Abecedare}}. - ] (]) 00:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Even in that case, isn't there a case to document the what, who, where, etc. of them so people can get information? Of course, I am not agreeing with that; I am saying we need to document all such people as objectively as possible. You or I may consider ] or the ] peers religious impostors, but they are definitely significant to know about and we have to bring all the information on them together.]&mdash;] ] 05:41, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)


== Facts about India == == ] ==


Expert input needed please at ], thanks. ] (]) 16:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
I think ] article should be deleted. Nothing important there and looks more like a forward email. what do you people think? --] 03:45, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)


== ] ==
:I would move it into the India article under a heading like "Interesting facts" or something.]&mdash;] ] 05:24, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)


I can't find any English language sources. Can you please help? ] (]) 04:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
::No DO NOT add unnecessary information to the India page. The page is fully mature. Leave this page as it is. ] 19:40, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)


:I didn't get any results searching on . Searching for "konam" only gives 2 results, neither of which are in Tamil Nadu. -] (]) 07:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
== Article 356 ==


== Bechar Bhadani ==
Hi,
Shouldn't there be an article on ]?
-- ] 05:41, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)


I'd be grateful for any pointers about the notability or otherwise of this Gujarati politician ]. I came across the article during my general monitoring of unreferenced BLPs, and declined a BLPPROD on the basis that there was one source and a subsequent PROD on the basis that there were some potentially reasonable looking sources on the first page of a Google search. I will look into those a bit more, but if anyone had better knowledge of the subject and could give an informal "yeah, notable" or "no, almost certainly not notable" I would appreciate it (this is not an area of expertise for me!). Cheers, ] (]) 10:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
== Dalit article ==


== Good article reassessment for ] ==
The ] article has been shifted to ]. I don't know, but I don't think that's a good title. First I though of shifting it to "Dalit (Scheduled Caste)", but SC does not cover Dalits in Nepal, etc. Any opinions? --] 12:02, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 19:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

: ] or ]? -- ] 14:09, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

::] would be the best. ] 19:46, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, perfect, I was hoping there could be wider discussion about this, but I didn't know where it might take place. I was the one who moved the article to ], although to be clear I did ''not'' move any article entitled ]. The article I moved was ], because I noticed that a number of articles had links or redirects essentially saying "for Dalit, see untouchable", which I'm sure everybody can agree is highly unfelicitous. ] is (and was) a disambiguation page. I came up with the name ], but I'd be happy to see it changed if some better name can be arrived at. (I have reservations about ], because Dalit jatis are outside the varna system, which is key to the problem of Dalit exclusion.) Alternatively, we could move the article to ] and create a new page ]; or else move the page to ], which is currently a redirect. (By-the-by, for people interested in a related topic, I'd love to see additions and improvements to the article on Scheduled Tribes, currently at ], which is still in its infancy.) ] 00:28, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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The state of Indian media

A thought-provoking interview of Rajdeep Sardesai . I remember him being cocky about it a year or two ago. Now he sounds completely despondent. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:14, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, about 9 to 10 years ago, Indian media became deprecated. Bearian (talk) 15:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Please see Misplaced Pages:ICTFSOURCES and User:Ms Sarah Welch/sandbox/Paid news and private treaties. Bearian (talk) 15:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Even on Misplaced Pages they are mostly unusable for establishing any form of notability, not to mention how most of them support the ruling party. - Ratnahastin (talk) 15:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
This month, Caravan profiled News18 and it cannot be nearer to truth. The amount of ludicrous junk they have pushed on Sambhal Mosque boggles my mind. Probably, nothing except The Indian Express, The Hindu, and The Dainik Bhaskar are worth relying upon anymore. Upd Edit (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
The freedom allowed for each media house has been circumscribed individually. Nobody is immune. Even we are not. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Greeshma Kuthar, a freelance journalist who in my opinion produced the best reporting on the Manipur violence, also made a lot of remarks on the state of media coverage in an interview with Frontliine. There is also full transcript of the interview.

She didn't get into it in the interview, but revealed on twitter several times that she had a lot of difficulty getting her articles published even after she wrote them. We can only imagine why. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Gandhali

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Unreferenced and unimproved 15 years. No reliable sources online Google news, newspapers, books, or scholar. Run of the mill, very small village. What little is on the page is trivia. Not enough useful information to merge.

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Added a ref, de-prodded since it now meets WP:NGEO, and removed unsourced fluff from the article. The same ref can now be used for any unreferenced article about a village in Jalgaon district. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mondipalayam

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Unreferenced and unimproved 15 years. The Bhavani taluk does not exist any more, and the Mylambadi subdivision does not exist. Unverified, run of the mill, very small village. Not enough information to merge.

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@Bearian Not sure if you saw the comment for the other proposed deletion of Gandhali, but looks like these villages articles may meet WP:NGEO. I am not quite clear after reading WP:NGEO, but I am guessing that they need to be kept and not deleted. Asteramellus (talk) 22:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
I can't emphasize enough that it's very important that you need to put in a source before it can be deprodded. If you insist, and want to be difficult, I'll take it to WP:AfD. Again, the easy-peasy approach is to add a reference. Thank you for improving this project. Bearian (talk) 01:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
@Bearian Oh I too support the proposed deletion for this page and other such minimally developed unsourced pages! But I was just highlighting what I saw & mentioned by the other editor regarding WP:NGEO. Asteramellus (talk) 12:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Srinivasa Higher Secondary School, Melaiyur

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P.S. So many PRODed article messages here. Sparkle and Fade edits 05:15, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

We Wikipedians are in the process of cleaning up a 15-year backlog of unsourced and unimproved articles. I plan to take a two-week break over the Christmas holidays, but I'm still volunteering on my birthday. Bearian (talk) 14:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Left unsaid is that many of the single purpose accounts who created these articles and pages are no longer volunteering. It's an excellent example of Brandolini's law. Bearian (talk) 14:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

More eyes at Zakir Hussain please

See my note regarding the page protection. Would be good if some experienced editors could add the article to their watchlist. Abecedare (talk) 19:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Done, also welcome back! @Abecedare:. - Ratnahastin (talk) 00:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Banajiga

Expert input needed please at Talk:Balija#Proposed merge of Banajiga into Balija, thanks. Wikishovel (talk) 16:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Nalloorkonam

I can't find any English language sources. Can you please help? Bearian (talk) 04:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

I didn't get any results searching on the indian census site. Searching for "konam" only gives 2 results, neither of which are in Tamil Nadu. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Bechar Bhadani

I'd be grateful for any pointers about the notability or otherwise of this Gujarati politician Bechar Bhadani. I came across the article during my general monitoring of unreferenced BLPs, and declined a BLPPROD on the basis that there was one source and a subsequent PROD on the basis that there were some potentially reasonable looking sources on the first page of a Google search. I will look into those a bit more, but if anyone had better knowledge of the subject and could give an informal "yeah, notable" or "no, almost certainly not notable" I would appreciate it (this is not an area of expertise for me!). Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 10:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Temper (film)

Temper (film) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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