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I added an indent to a reply-post you made today, so the timeline (of what you were replying to and the timeline of another post below yours) would be more clear...hope that's alright. Shearonink (talk) 15:28, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for helping keep the page more clear; will try to improve.Parkwells (talk) 16:15, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm kind of done with trying to work on the article at this point. It doesn't matter what is done it is never enough...very frustrating. Shearonink (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry for the inconvenience caused at article page Paul Kosok

You might have noticed my {{inuse}} tag recently at Paul Kosok. Actually I was trying to fix the broken <ref> tag and reference section but got into an edit conflict twice with a fellow editor (which I found later was you!). I placed the tag to temporarily notify that someone else is editing too. Finally when I got my chance, I found that you had already fixed it ! So I had to remove the tag without any actually editing done in between. I'm really sorry if it disrupted your editing!

trunks_ishida (talk) 17:14, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
No problem; in this case, it seemed a problem for you and not for me, but thanks for your note.Parkwells (talk) 18:28, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Glad to hear that it didn't cause much disruption. Thanks and Happy Editing!

trunks_ishida (talk) 18:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Alabama State Capitol

Hey, you may not remember me, but we've collaborated on a few Alabama-related articles before. Over the last few months I've been working on a large expansion of the Alabama State Capitol article and was wondering if you would take a look and maybe do some copyedits. Most sources (including Federal/NRHP documentation) has in-depth info about its Confederate-related history, but largely neglects its role during the Civil Rights Movement. I've tried to balance all of this out, but thought you might be able to contribute (and maybe fix any mistakes I've made) also. If you have the time and energy to do so, it would be much appreciated. Altairisfar (talk) 17:06, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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BCE/AD warrior

What are thoughts on this Talk:Cahokia#Date Style? Heiro 04:42, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Cahokia DRN thread

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The Battle for Whiteclay

I started a new article: The Battle for Whiteclay. You did an excellent job on this In the Spirit of Crazy Horse (book) and African Burial Ground National Monument. So if you get a chance and could possibly add to the The Battle for Whiteclay, it would be appreciated. Thanks. 7mike5000 (talk) 01:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice job on The Battle for Whiteclay. 7mike5000 (talk) 13:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, 7mike. I've put some questions on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation Talk page, as it would be useful for us to decided the best breakdown of content among that, this article, and the one on Whiteclay, Nebraska. There's much overlap and we may be able to define them better for both readers and editors.Parkwells (talk) 13:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
You've done an outstanding job on the articles which concern the issues surrounding Whiteclay. The article Pine Ridge, Nebraska got 10,000 hits the other day, so alot of people are reading what you have written. Just wanted to say thanks. Buenos días. 7mike5000 (talk) 14:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Taking a break

I'm taking a break from that article and the talkpage as well. Sometimes lockdowns aren't necessarily a bad thing...I guess... Shearonink (talk) 05:03, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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Thomas Jefferson 02

I am no longer able to make any edits on the Thomas Jefferson article. I believe Brad, Gwillhickers, and TheDarkOneLives, have claimed ownership on the article. The discussion page, in my opinion is completely toxic and negative. Best en devours on your Misplaced Pages editing efforts. Cmguy777 (talk) 21:27, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I have contacted Orlady on this issue, however, Orlady has not responded or as far as I know is not interested in the subject. I believe Orlady is a Misplaced Pages administrator. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
The article is currently dominated by Gwillhickers, TheDarkOneLives, and Brad. Are there any administrators that can be contacted? Who has the enforcement power to prevent ownership of articles? Cmguy777 (talk) 03:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Don't know what to suggest. I will be working to add updated current cites and content to the appropriate articles - see additions to Thomas Jefferson and Slavery re: his failure as executor after 1817 to carry out the will of Tadeusz Kościuszko, who designated money and property in the US to be used to free and educate slaves, including Jefferson's.Parkwells (talk) 12:52, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Native American Lending Alliance

Hello. Back on February 8, 2012, I requested the creation of a page for the Native American Lending Alliance (NALA) on the Misplaced Pages:Requested articles/Business and economics/Businesses and organizations page since I have conflict of interest as I represent the organization in its Misplaced Pages outreach efforts. NALA is an association of Native American tribes that provides financial products for underbanked consumers and creates new economic opportunities for Native American communities. However, no action has been taken. In regards to media mentions, since submitting this request the New York Times has published a letter to the editor by a NALA board member and the Denver Post published an Associated Press article mentioning the organization.

I see that you work on Native American-related articles. I would appreciate any assistance in successfully getting a Native American Lending Alliance article created. Thanks.--Digistrat (talk) 15:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

There appears to be little information available from Reliable Sources about the NALA, perhaps because it is so new. Generally, organization's own websites are not considered sufficient as sources, and I find that of NALA to be rather vague. The indirect mention in the AP article and the letter to the editor are not sufficient sources for an article.Parkwells (talk) 05:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
It does not appear to a be a topic I want to write about. This opinion piece is very critical: Delvin Cree, "Predatory lending a cash cow in Indian country", Indianz.com, 17 February 2012 <http://www.indianz.com/News/2012/004651.asp> Parkwells (talk) 14:34, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Margaret Lea Houston

Thanks for your contribution on Mrs. Houston's article. I'm currently reading the William Seale book on her, and we'll see if anything else significant is in that book.

If you're interested, Temple Lea Houston could use some editing. Or a lot, depending upon one's point of view. Not very well structured/sectioned. As I skim through it, the article looks like it was a copy and paste from somewhere to focus on some image. It suffers from POV, IMO. Lots of quotes with no citations. I added the Personal life section. His wife and children had not even been mentioned in the article. I'll get around to it, but just thought I'd mention it if you have any interest.Maile66 (talk) 19:38, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

The Battle for Whiteclay (cont'd)

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Hi Parkwells, I have been a bit pre-occupied and I also have a tendency of not finishing what I start. Youv'e been doing all the work on the Whiteclay issue (article about Whiteclay on the front page of the New york Times today). If you should feel so inclined to take care of the copyright requirements for the image use from The Battle for Whiteclay it would be appreciated. I have limited time at the moment. I got the information from User talk:Anthonyhcole: "Get him to email our volunteers at: permissions-en@wikimedia.org using this format. He can copy and paste it into his email.

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and tell him to ask the OTRS volunteers to post a note on the The Battle for Whiteclay talk page or your talk page letting you know when they've received his email. Once that's done, you can upload the images quoting the OTRS "ticket" number." He also said he has other images that could be used.

Mark Vasina's e-mail is listed on the documentary's website: mvasina@neb.rr.com Thanks 7mike5000 (talk) 13:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Won't be able to do it today, but will try. Did update the Whiteclay, NE article based on the NY Times and some other older cites. Parkwells (talk) 15:52, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank's. Mark Vasina seems like a really nice person and he offered to provide more images. A picture tells a thousand words so relevant images would help to elucidate what Whiteclay is all about. Just tell him you're the guy thst's been keeping the content current, he has read the Misplaced Pages article and said he was impressed with the fact that it was regularly updated. And you can tell him the guy from New York who called him is a bit of a fruit loop so sorry for the delay. I'm just not able to do much right now. So thanks again. 7mike5000 (talk) 01:35, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Archive 5

looks like you accidentally created Archive 5 in the main article space. Zad68 (talk) 18:33, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

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JUst move the article to the correct page, and then you can remove the CSD notice once its in your user space. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:53, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, it's gone. I've started it over in my User space.Parkwells (talk) 19:48, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Was wondering if you'd be interested

Know you have an account at Commons too, so thought I'd ask. I've added to/created a slew of new archaeological sites for Georgia and the south lately. A few have illustrations/photos on nps.gov sites or are credited to NPS. I was wondering if you knew anything about how to find out if we can use them and upload them to commons, I know a lot of the government stuff are PD, but am having trouble figuring out how to do it. Some specific ones I'm interested in so far are :

Any help would be appreciated. Heiro 00:13, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Hieronymous - good to hear from you. Congratulations on all your work. Those are great additions. I haven't done this myself, but do know that NPS photos, as government works, would be part of the public domain, as would be images from the National Archives or Library of Congress. I should investigate and try to figure it out. Will get back to you.Parkwells (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Wole Soyinka

Hi Parkwells, thanks for so much good work on so many articles. I've been cleaning up the writer Wole Soyinka and wondered if you'd swing by. It's an almost entirely unref'd BLP of a hugely influential writer, who deserves better. Your eyes on it are welcome. Thanks Span (talk) 10:49, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Span - thanks for your note. I'll take a look at that; have read Soyinka's work and know that he is really good. Will try to find some sources, too.

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Henry P. Cheatham

Thank you for working on Henry P. Cheatham. But I am curious, where does the fact that he served in the North Carolina state legislature come from? That's not listed in his official congressional biography, and it is not listed in the North Carolina Manual of 1913.Awbeal (talk) 17:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your sharp eyes- I was going to look further for that. The article had said that he supported the passage in 1883 of the founding of the orphanage, and I thought they meant he had been in the state legislature, but was going to doublecheck. Have been working on five articles at once, so am glad for the help. Will correct it.Parkwells (talk) 19:57, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
No problem. I see that you have corrected it. Where may I ask does the interest in Henry P. Cheatham come from? Do you live in NC like me? Awbeal (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
No, I don't live there but got interested in the five US Congressmen elected from the South at the end of the 19th century, before disfranchisement. (Had done quite a lot of work on that topic a while ago, and as it comes up in other articles, it always grips me. Also had worked on John Mercer Langston at an earlier time, and his brother.) The US Congress: Black Americans in Congress site is good, as is its related Historical Essay on this. So I decided to add to thes articles, supplemented by books available.Parkwells (talk) 21:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Related TfD

Hey there Parkwells! Hope you're doing well, and that your editing continues with full force- looks like it. I'd appreciate you weighing in on Template:Fur Trade in Nebraska. Take care! • Freechildtalk 18:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Glad to add a vote for keeping - I like the templates. Yes, am managing to continue to find things to write about; hope you're doing well, too. Parkwells (talk) 21:37, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Parkwells! Following your DYKs, it looks like you're still hammering away awesomely. Congrats- I'm glad you've stayed with it so strongly. I'm mostly maintenance these days, although I've found a few interesting things to throw in here and there. Anyway, wanted to let you know about an article I had published in a local rag - thought you might appreciate it. Take care! • Freechildtalk 02:07, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Hey, Freechild - great to hear from you! I'd thought, too, about writing about "why" I write for Misplaced Pages. Your article captured much of it. It's funny, as some friends get it and others don't, although many say they use WP regularly. Have not had your focus, but started from a similar basis of personal interest, and have followed curiosity and trying to fill perceived gaps. Have also come across a man on WP id'd as "Tony the Marine", who has specialized in restoring, discovering, rescuing Puerto Rican history and figures, particularly those associated with the independence movement, and gotten awards from the government and civic groups for his work. Each of us could have personal blogs, but I like that we're contributing to a collaborative effort.Parkwells (talk) 16:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I agree, it is all about the collective, the whole of it. I do try occasionally to rewrite the North Omaha history articles into snippy blog entries, but they die for good editing, so I continue here. Thanks for all you've ever done for the articles I've started, for sure. I don't think we'll ever get national awards or anything, and those little badges are cute but dull, so I'll simply say thank you for joining me in this little endeavor. It's a blast! • Freechildtalk 16:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
And thank you, too!Parkwells (talk) 20:30, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Melungeon

Any comments on the IP's edits at this page? Keeps inserting material linked to a forum and a private genetics company. Dougweller (talk) 08:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for checking; I agree with HR's restoration of text to RS in the Melungeon article. Forums are not valid sources. It's also unclear exactly what point the editor was trying to make - it's unlikely that 75% of the European haplotype was Portuguese, given the history of the populations. Read like a misapplication of data, from the little there was to see.Parkwells (talk) 12:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Much appreciated. I'm sure the IP will be back though. Dougweller (talk) 13:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Back, claims of vandalism in edit summaries, original research, etc. I've taken the sources to WP:RSN. Dougweller (talk) 10:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Melungeon shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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It has also became clear that your wikipedia edits are entirely based on african american sibjects, and are now trying to use that stuff on my own families' wikipedia article, you are using the same website for reference to your claims while i use the same site that you used, yet claim i can not use the same site you use. Now this is a cease and desist to you on the melungeon page if you continue using racism on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.68.123 (talk) 17:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Melungeon. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in you being blocked from editing. I don't exactly understand your objective, but you seem to have become rather confrontational in your editing. I suggest to take a deep breath and then discuss your concerns with the article at Talk:Melungeon before further continuing this edit war. I believe you have violated the rule here known as the three-revert rule. This is generally considered a strong sign that things have gotten out of hand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.68.123 (talk) 18:35, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Is that a legal threat?

Cease and desist? I've taken the IP to the 3RR board now and mentioned this. If you feel it's a legal threat, go to ANI. I'm off to watch tv with my wife right now. A regular date I can't miss! Dougweller (talk) 18:37, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks - HR took it to ANI and the IP has been blocked. Parkwells (talk) 19:12, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Essie Mae Washington-Williams

Why did I think she had died? Thanks for catching my boo-boo here. --Javaweb (talk) 20:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)Javaweb

Ramapough Lenape Nation

Greetings! I like the changes you have made but I have a small thing on one of the changes.. The findings of the BIA agree with the Supreme Court and stated we are "Indians", not "Indian ancestry". There is a difference. Many groups in the US claim Indian ancestry but are not Indian. I hope you will understand and agree with the change back. Ramapoughnative (talk) 02:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

A few of us have read your work and we are very pleased with what you have created. Thank you! Ramapoughnative (talk) 02:48, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your encouragement. Parkwells (talk) 13:13, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
For rewriting the Ramapough Lenape page to fall more in line with Wiki policies. We thank you. Ramapoughnative (talk) 23:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Greetings. I left you a few notes on the Ramapough talk page. Ramapoughnative (talk) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Sussex County, New Jersey

Thanks for your contribution to the Lenape section on SC,NJ. I've been debating how best to approach that section for the last few days and rereading Weslager, Kraft and Schrabisch.--ColonelHenry (talk) 18:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks - of course more can be added, but I thought the Lede of the Lenape article would at least set the scene. Sounds as if you have good sources.Parkwells (talk) 18:23, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
It's a good start. I see the work over at Minisink and related sites too and appreciate having someone to share the load in our small, oft-neglected postage stamp of native soil. I've just wondered and left idle at the how of condensing 8000-10000 years/500 generations of history in three or four paragraphs. There's an old story about Churchill sitting on the hillside wanting to paint but spending hours starring at a white, blank canvas. Lady Astor walked over, saw his predicament, picked up a brush and put one big bold stroke across the blank canvas and walked away. Churchill painted into the evening. Perhaps it was the move I needed to get back into the work.--ColonelHenry (talk) 19:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Welcome back - good work is always needed. I'm relatively new to this topic, but am encouraged by the research that has been going on, with additions to perspectives and the chances to add updated information here.Parkwells (talk) 16:32, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Nasdijj

Hi -

Would you mind taking a look at the latest set of edits to Nasdijj? I wrote some of the original material and think that some of them are not really supported by the facts/references. However, I'm really time-pressured and can't go through them as carefully as I'd like. I know you looked over the aerticle before and would very much appreciate it if you could do them same again. Best, Vizjim (talk) 08:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

New LBH Edits

Hello Parkwells - I've noticed that you have shown interest in creating an accurate and well-written article on Battle of the Little Bighorn from a significant number of thoughtful edits. I'm dropping by now to ask if you'd take a look at a really long addition to the article here Battle_of_the_Little_Bighorn#Survivors. I have some serious concerns about the presence of this addition to an already very long article that still needs very substantial editing and sourcing. I am not canvassing, and I could easily rv or rewrite on the bases of length, relevance, writing, and suspect sourcing (History Channel?). It is a good faith edit, as was the earlier "Role of Non-Combatants that I cut down by 75% to what seemed to be strictly relevant to the article. But I think some other eyes need to look it over - I'm also posting this on User:Jusdafax's page. Any help would be appreciated. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 04:44, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, have made comment there. I agree with short summary and separate article.Parkwells (talk) 11:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Neutral notice of an RfC

A Request for Comment has been posted for an article on which you have been an editor. If you wish to comment, go to Talk:List of African-American firsts# Request for Comment: Pro wrestling. --Tenebrae (talk) 11:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your work today on Dumas. Best wishes Span (talk) 21:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

If you were ever of a mind, Olaudah Equiano could certainly use your eyes. Best wishes Span (talk) 10:19, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

John Payne Todd's marriage and family

Hi,

can you please add any source for John Payne Todd's marriage and stepson? - I can't find anything showing that Greta and Cortlan Bunce ever existed... --84.130.190.27 (talk) 10:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Seem to remember seeing it on a page, but can't find it either. Strange, especially to have specific names and place of origin for Greta.Parkwells (talk) 13:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Could be vandalism: Todd has a bad reputation, but probably he never shot anybody, and was a bachelor. --84.130.156.126 (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Menominee Tribe v. United States

I wanted to let you know that I reverted your deletion of part of the lead on this page. The material is not OpEd, it is part of the facts of the case, and each one of the sentences deleted is supported by appropriately referenced text in the body of the article. Please see the talk page of the article, or feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns. Regards, GregJackP Boomer! 23:07, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Please see Talk page of article. You made a mistake of haste, perhaps; I did not delete that material but made two paragraphs from the Lead. Please review the history of the article to see.Parkwells (talk) 00:18, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

You're invited to Misplaced Pages Takes St. Louis!

Dust off your Polaroid camera and pack your best lenses. The first-ever Misplaced Pages Takes St. Louis photo hunt kicks off Sat, Sept. 15, around noon in downtown St. Louis. Tour the streets of the Rome of the West with other Wikipedians and even learn a little St. Louis history. This event is a fun and collaborative way to enhance St. Louis articles with visual content. Novice photographers welcome! Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 06:53, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

For your information

Nobody seems to have brought your attention to this thread where your contribution is being discussed in relation to an open letter by Philip Roth about Misplaced Pages.--Peter cohen (talk) 23:56, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I just assumed you were already watching that article. ;-) For the record, I don't think your edits were inappropriate. If anything, I think the additional sources you added improved the article. And the interchange between editors which occurred at the article seems to me to be within normal parameters. What's sketchy is what happened behind the scenes. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 01:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know and for your comments; was busy with other things. Definitely seems to be sketchy behind the scenes.Parkwells (talk) 12:12, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Just to note, I've mentioned you in this Signpost story, but I'd be happy to remove your name at your request. Thanks for all the content work you do here. Ed  06:18, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Touché, Parkwells. I noticed this kerfuffle a few days ago and left a note on the New Yorker blog suggesting readers acquaint themselves with WP since it (or at least its underlying philosophy and technology) is here to stay. Yopienso (talk) 17:13, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Gamble Plantation

Hi, I noticed that you've contributed a great deal to the Gamble Plantation Historic State Park article (in 2011). I am a student at the University of South Florida, and am going to focus on this museum as part of my project for a seminar on the American Museum. I am wondering if you were involved with Janet Snyder Matthews' seminar at the site? I intend to focus on the UDC's involvement with the running of the park and the interpretation of the site.

--Michelledavison (talk) 15:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, no I was not part of the Matthews' seminar, but was interested in the history of the plantation and Judah Benjamin. The historian David Blight, in Race and Reunion, wrote much about the rise of the UDC and its role in historic preservation after the Civil War. If you're not familiar with his book, it may give some perspective. Good luck with your work. Parkwells (talk) 15:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the suggestion! I'd not read that book but certainly will now. --Michelledavison (talk) 16:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Blight's book was prominent among many recent ones having to do with the institutionalization of memory after the Civil War and the rise of historic preservation organizations. There may be more references on the UDC page, or for some of the women authors whose memoirs the UDC supported publishing in the late 19th-early 20th century. I've noticed many new works on the topic of formation of memory after the war - the North and South struggled to control the narrative. Parkwells (talk) 16:59, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Moon Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania

Hi, Does this need a citation, or to be removed? Sounds hokey to me. "Another theory is derived from lore that tells of a waning crescent moon descending to plow furrows in farmer's fields with its sharp cusp, but killing many excited people who cursed and praised the moon's early morning activities." Yopienso (talk) 23:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Strange, indeed. I added citation needed.--Parkwells (talk) 18:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Best, Yopienso (talk) 19:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The story has elements of an ancient myth; I need to look further at this. Why should it crop up there?--Parkwells (talk) 14:46, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

For your copyedits on Ruth Norman today, I appreciate the help. It ended up being a pretty smooth day as Today's Featured Article, I was much relieved. My next FA nomination will be Hiram Wesley Evans. If you have time/are interested, I'd be very grateful for any copyediting help on that one. Thanks again, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:23, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - the Norman article was intriguing and terrific, deserving of your FA. Will look at Evans; thanks for the invite.--Parkwells (talk) 14:44, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Glad to help - provocative subject. Jackson's book gives a good overview of the expansion of the KKK in the larger Midwest and West, especially the cities.--Parkwells (talk) 14:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

∞== HI Parkwells- Quick note of thanks == For cleaning up and improving the B.B. Comer Section. I went to BB Comer elementary school- and other than that I knew nothing about him other than a number of schools were named for him- plus the Comer Bulding (now the City Federal Building). I made the original edits and additions to the original Wiki article (that was a carbon copy from the state archives) that included all of the information relative to the sources of his wealth, peonage, labor and other issues covered in the article.

Just saw your updates on Aug 12 and I think the article is much improved thanks to your work. Well done and many thanks.

HPhilip1984 (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)HPhilip1984

Hi, HPhilip, thanks for your note.--Parkwells (talk) 23:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

B class assessment for WikiProject ?

Hello Parkwells, I've spent much of this hurricane doing assessments for WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America. Since you appear to be one of the knowledgeable folks, perhaps you'd take a look and see if some C-class are ready for B-Class? Djembayz (talk) 00:06, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Parchman

Hey! I responded on the talk page WhisperToMe (talk) 21:26, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reference; looks useful but haven't had a chance to check it yet.Parkwells (talk) 16:57, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Assessing articles as B class

Don't know on this project-- on WP Ships, convention was that you are welcome to assess your own articles up to C class, and let someone else take a look at them for B. Thinking it over, the most harmonious way to approach this might be to go ahead and assess the articles you didn't write, put the articles you wrote into a "B class assessment requested" section or page, and then ask for comment on the project talk page regarding assessing your own articles.

Regarding tools, our assessment section is rather outdated, and needs modification. It's still called "classification" instead of "assessment". We could also use a B class checklist, like Mil Hist and Ships have, and importance ratings in the template ... and "categories" and "disambig" classes too.

Glad to have another knowledgeable person to work with on this. It's always better to have more than one set of eyes for these things! Djembayz (talk) 17:39, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Good suggestion - I'll look further at them. I've often worked on articles other people had started to improve them, rather than starting from scratch. Have assessed one "stub" article; just trying to see what is there.Parkwells (talk) 17:42, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the good edits on the Robert B. Hawley page. TexianPolitico (talk) 19:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment!Parkwells (talk) 22:48, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Enoch Brown School Massacre

Are you still interested in the above article? An anon placed some tags on it without explanation, but i really have to agree with him. The accounts I've read are self-contradictory. I really don't believe that there is any evidence that the incident actually occured. At best everything in the article should be prefaced by "XX says ..." or "YYY described ..." Do, please let me know what you think. Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:51, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Madisonville Site

Thanks very much for the work here. For a long time I'd been planning to do something with it, but I'd never gotten around to it, which was a pity for such an important site. Nyttend (talk) 21:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!Parkwells (talk) 22:46, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

A project for you

Hi! Are you interested in working on Abigail Hopper Gibbons? Lots of room for improvement over there. Yopienso (talk) 16:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Yopienso (talk) 11:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the invite; that's a first brush attempt. She's interesting and I want to follow up on sources.Parkwells (talk) 14:28, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Loves Libraries Seattle

Decemmber 8 - Misplaced Pages Loves Libraries Seattle - You're invited
Seattle Public Library
  • Date Saturday, December 8, 2012
  • Time 10 a.m. – 3 p.m.
  • Location Seattle Public Library Meeting Room 1 on Level 4, Central Library, 1000 4th Avenue, Seattle WA, 98104
  • Event An editathon on Seattle-related Misplaced Pages articles with Misplaced Pages tutorials and Librarian assistance on hand.
  • Hashtag #wikiloveslib or #glamwiki.
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Yours, Maximilianklein (talk) 04:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Can you, please, proof read my recent edit

I've made some changes to the content of this section and since I'm not native English speaker, I'd like to ask you to proof read it. Thank you very much for your help and kindness. --DancingPhilosopher 15:30, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help - made other changes on Republic of Slovenia.Parkwells (talk) 15:35, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you also for the other changes to Republic of Slovenia. I would be very glad if you would be willing to provide the third opinion in the dispute I have with another user over my changes at this article, and regarding the changes talked about here, as well. Thank you very much, again. --DancingPhilosopher 15:57, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for providing a Neutral point of view in other related articles, as well. I am aware of the fact that neither me or the other editor (but at least I am aware of it, while the other editor pretends to be neutral) is without bias. So your edits are very welcome. --DancingPhilosopher 10:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Just trying to help. I'm not really knowledgeable about this topic, but am trying to catch up by reading the sources possible, and the related articles. Need to do more.Parkwells (talk) 14:00, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thanks for fixing most of the paraphrasing issues at Jeffrey Weise! I was just addressing it and found you did it well! Thank you. Albeit27 (talk) 12:20, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks!Parkwells (talk) 17:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

What do you think about...

...maybe nominating Bath School disaster for GA? According to Talk:Bath School disaster, it was a Featured Article in 2006 but was demoted in 2010. I think the article has been *SO* much improved since then that at least a GA nom might be in order, but am swamped this week with life/etc. so won't be able to get to it for a while. Shearonink (talk) 17:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Great idea. Glad you think it's improved (I do, too, and appreciate your help.) I've never taken one through the GA process. Parkwells (talk) 02:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Really? That surprises me, you're so careful about sourcing and editing and NPOV. Well, there's no particular hurry, I'm willing to take it on if you'll continue fixing it up, especially improving any sourcing issues you find. I have noticed with this article that there seems to be a tendency of a lot of hit&run/drive-by tagging - yeah, there is unsourced text, but sheesh...how many 'citation needed' tags does an article need and how much time does it take to place them all over the article? I think initially there was a lot of text that probably probably started out with a source, maybe written by someone with local knowledge, but when it was added into the article the editor/s didn't include the references so the text ends up looking like unsourced gossipy hearsay.
I'll read up on the GA parameters/etc., and see if I can find a Reviewer who would be willing to do a GA review it. I took a look at why it was demoted from FA, getting kicked past GA and ending up down into the basement where most articles dwell...the objections raised at the FA review focussed on:
  • substandard sourcing and
  • copyright issues with images that were in the article at that time (February 23-March 30, 2010).
Shearonink (talk) 02:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Just never got around to going through the GA process. I checked the record, too - the sourcing is certainly improved. Not sure about the photos - I looked at a couple but not to compare; some come from Rootsweb, a free site, probably scanned in from historic sources of 1927.Parkwells (talk) 17:12, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Recent developments

I think that the following paragraph must be part of the Puerto Rico article, Recent developments section. What is your opinion?

On December 11th, 2012, the Legislative Assembly of Puerto Rico has enacted a concurrent resolution to request the President and the Congress of the United States to respond diligently and effectively, and to act on the demand of the people of Puerto Rico, as freely and democratically expressed in the plebiscite held on November 6, 2012, to end, once and for all, its current form of territorial status and to begin the process to admit Puerto Rico to the Union as a State.

Reference:The Senate and the House of Representative of Puerto Rico Concurrent Resolution

--Buzity (talk) 01:28, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, sounds like a good idea. You don't need to quote the resolution, but summarize it and add the cite. Clearly the Assembly thinks the vote expressed the will of the people (I understand opponents are bickering about people who didn't vote.)Parkwells (talk) 14:29, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Done! --Seablade (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Oops sorry

Sorry - your mention of tabloidism at the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting article got my goat and I initially overreacted, something which I trying to learn not to do! I have now less-initially de-overreacted, if you see what I mean. I apologize for the discourteous earlier version - I may as well mention it as it's there in the edit history, but, believe me, the polite and reasonable version now there is more me than the silly stroppy first draft! Apologies and best wishes DBaK (talk) 11:04, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment; we can agree to disagree, and my comment was probably prompted from irritation about others who wanted to turn it into something else. It made me start thinking about all of these events, though, and that's when the revenge pattern of killing the person close, and then those in the community became so apparent. So you never know where discussion will lead.Parkwells (talk) 12:55, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Indeed, and thanks very much. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 13:36, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad


<font=3> Wishing you a
"Feliz Navidad and a Prospero Año Nuevo"
(Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year)
Tony the Marine

Parkwells, thank you for your message and for sharing your story. I was moved by what happened to your sister. You are right we do have some interests in common. When I was a kid, my cousins told me that we were also Italian, which at the time didn't make any sense to me because I couldn't figure out how could you be Italian when your family came from Puerto Rico. Then I discovered that about 450 families from Corsica settled in "Yauco" the town that my family came from in the 1850's and that the Mattei's (My mom) immigrated from there. I have discovered many things about Puerto Rico which I didn't even know and I figured that there must be a lot of people who deserve to know these things. I was right, believe or not most Puerto Ricans do not know about certain facts of their history and about their positive contributions. That is why I enjoy sharing my knowledge with others. I hope that this New Year brings you and your loved ones a lot of blessings. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Claude-Anne Lopez

New to wikipedia, so not sure if this is the best way to communicate with you, but fwiw, there are some errors in the Claude-Anne Lopez page and likely some major updates you will want to make. (I'm her son, so I know her and her bio pretty well.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LarryLopez (talkcontribs) 22:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your comment. If you can provide some published sources for the material on your mother, it would be useful, as that is what we are supposed to follow (so that other readers can see it or verify it). I was interested in her story when coming across a reference to her in a NY Time book review, and then followed up with what I could find online.Parkwells (talk) 02:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi again, Larry. I didn't mean to put you off, but am new to this kind of situation. I think there may be a way for you to establish your identity as a family member with an administrator, so that material coming directly from you could be accepted, but, as i noted, editors are supposed to rely on published sources - it's a method of trying to keep material based in academic and recognized works.Parkwells (talk) 15:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ervin Marton

Hello! Your submission of Ervin Marton at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:34, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ervin Marton

Hello! Your submission of Ervin Marton at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

It is important that you stop by the nomination page and address the issues raised there. It would be a shame for this submission, which needs only a few things for approval and is such a good article, to fail because no response was made. Thank you for your time. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:03, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your encouragement. Have changed the hook and made minor corrections to cites as noted on the comment page; not sure if I caught everything the reviewer was thinking of.Parkwells (talk) 20:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Yet another barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar
For careful copyediting on the controversial John Yoo and Torture Memo pages where every sentence has been hard fought, which improved their grammar, syntax and spelling, without affecting their substance, balance or neutrality. ElijahBosley 15:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ervin Marton

Updated DYK queryOn 27 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ervin Marton, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ervin Marton, an internationally known Hungarian photographer based in Paris, was part of the French Resistance during World War II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ervin Marton. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thorma, Réti

Is there a page number about the 1966 exhibition in the article on Tihanyi? I waded through the article a couple of times but didn't find one. Anyway, it seems counterproductive to remove links to the artists' colony: we're obviously going to have an article on it at some point (there are whole books about it, as well as an article in Grove Art), summarizing its achievements in one place rather than repeating that summary in each of the artists' biographies, and a removed red link just means someone will have to go back and re-add it. - Biruitorul 18:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

It was in a footnote at the bottom of a page; not sure if it had a page; will add it if so. Good point about the colony; that was why I had the links, too; will restore them.Parkwells (talk) 18:52, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Edgar Nixon and Browder v. Gayle questions

I'm going to move this discussion to the Browder v. Gayle page so that it's available to more readers. Maybe someone will know the answer.Parkwells (talk) 20:59, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Parkwells. You have new messages at Talk:Melungeon.
Message added 06:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Sorry it's taken so long. Dougweller (talk) 06:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Yates

Can we leave in the commentary on journal articles? It's important to be clear that Yates is fringe, eg the first Ancient American article discusses his claim that Cherokee culture is related to Greek, Jewish, Phoenician and Egyptian culture - or can we have a para on this instead perhaps? Dougweller (talk) 16:17, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I was trying to figure out how to approach that, too. (It's clear how he went about family research: the Yates and Cooper names are in the Jewish cemetery. Deleted it - that's not how you do research, picking and choosing names.) I think it might be better to have it covered in the article. Has anyone reliable commented on his articles or books? What kind of journal is Ancient American? What about his book that "Scotland was Jewish"? So many articles are about consumer embrace of new ethnic identity.Parkwells (talk) 16:27, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
A collection of Ancient American articles was edited by Frank Joseph (a former editor of the magazine who has also written about Atlantis) and Zechariah Sitchin. It's diffusionist -- "they all came to America and brought civilization". Inherently racist., , . Dougweller (talk) 16:50, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Owner is an LDS member, Wayne May. Dougweller (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Donald Panther-Yates for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Donald Panther-Yates is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Donald Panther-Yates until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:18, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your contribution in few Bangladesh related articles. Beside my own job, it is very problemetic to manage huge time to enrich these articles and fighting against vandals. I wish you will continue your contribution on these article.--Freemesm (talk) 13:36, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

International Crimes Tribunal (Bangladesh)

You have broken three references here, can you fix them please as I do not have the time to go through your edits to see which ones got messed up. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm very sorry, but have been through it more than once and can't find those references at all. I don't think factual material (for instance, the announcement of a conviction or sentence, which is not disputed) needs multiple sources anyway, but don't recall removing any, either. I've been adding content (names of the suspects and cites, ID for named people all readers may not know), cites, and filling out bare urls. Will try again.Parkwells (talk) 23:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Name change in Torture Memos

Hi Parkwells. As you have been working (a lot) on the Torture Memos page I thought I should bring to your attention an unexplained page move which has retitled it, that I have asked the Arbitration Committee to review and undo.ElijahBosley 14:33, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you! and a CE request.

Dear Parkwells, I've seen your copy edit in few of Bangladesh related articles. Can I invite you to copy edit Mahmudur Rahman's article? This article seems a pile of news, can you please arrange it's body according to encyclopedic manner? Thanks in advance. FreemesM 16:01, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot dear Parkwells. Great job indeed. Could you please teach me the way of quick c/e?--FreemesM 06:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Jefferson–Hemings controversy

Hey, I was reading your excellent work on the Jefferson–Hemings controversy this morning and thinking of nominating it for Good Article status. Would you have any strong objections? I'll be glad to take care of whatever issues arise in the course of the nomination if you don't feel like diving into it again. Thanks for all the effort you put into this one. -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Help with article

Hi Parkwells, I see you've been improving the article on the Creole case. I am trying to create a page on a similar incident a few years earlier, when a coastwise slave ship called the Enterprise was forced into Bermuda by bad weather, and quick action by the locals compelled the release of slaves she was carrying. Would you take a look and suggest improvements etc? It's currently awaiting review at http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Enterprise_%28slave_ship%29 Thanks RLamb (talk) 22:50, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with the layout and wording, much clearer.RLamb (talk) 12:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Glad to help - will look again and make suggestions on what you might add, what questions seem unanswered. These stories are so heartening; hope in the middle of so much misery. It was great that you found that 1855 British settlement - the Creole article had some statement about a settlement, but no date or source.Parkwells (talk) 12:07, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I tripped over your feet while trying to insert an image - always a bridge too far for me. Have now deleted image; you may want to check I didn't accidentally delete any of your changes.
Yes, I was pretty pleased with myself for tracking down the settlement, though I can't find it listed in U.S. Treaties and am not sure I have its title correctly. Please keep a friendly eye on this - it needs more. I would like both articles to give due credit to the involvement of Bahamians, Bermudans and Jamaicans in pushing change along. Sometimes it sounds like it's just lofty far-off diplomats deciding things.RLamb (talk) 13:29, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Found the 1853 claims treaty and added it (and cite - luckily in googlebooks), plus info about the resulting claims commission, which met for about two years to settle awards. I agree with emphasizing the roles of people on the islands; that's what gives me such pleasure in these stories - seeing them help others get freedom. It captures the imagination. The local magistrates and judges were quick to act, too, as noted in the article in . At first I was going to recommend just using the African Depository source, as it was more complete, but the Salem Gazette on Rootsweb had a few additional details, i.e. the ship came from Washington, DC (which had a major market), although both reprinted parts of the NY Journal of Commerce article, which appeared to be a reprint of a Bermuda Royal Gazette article.Parkwells (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
We may also find a way to use this material in articles on those islands, slavery in the Caribbean, or other ways. Will take a look.Parkwells (talk) 18:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
The article is so improved it's almost unrecognisable! Thanks a lot, especially for nailing exactly which act covered the compensation. When I have a bit more leisure I shall study how you improved the references. I love it when it's possible to direct someone to a source online :)RLamb (talk) 10:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Glad to help - you introduced me to a compelling topic. I was disappointed to come across some reference that said that, after Ashburton's advice to the Governors of the colonies about 1842, the US did not have so many complaints. Will have to try to find out more. One of the articles had headlined the Enterprise incident as "Another Seizure in Bermuda", so will have to research more.Parkwells (talk) 14:44, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Have moved other discussion to the Enterprise (slave ship) Talk page, as sources, etc. may be useful to other readers.Parkwells (talk) 18:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Tthanks

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for your continued work over the long term on literature and poetry articles (among many others). Best wishes Span (talk) 17:59, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Many hands make light work...

Your 'Thanks for the Helping Hand' Award
Thanks. Here's hoping others will find the article useful and perhaps add to it over time. RLamb (talk) 10:46, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for April 17

All fixed.Parkwells (talk) 13:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

c/e request for Mahmudur Rahman

Hi Parkwells, could you please help to c/e the Mahmudur Rahman article again? Due to current events a large scale change done there and it it seems not arranged according to WP:MOS. A non-encyclopedic emphasis was provided on MR's arrest and defaming government and court. Could you please take a look? Both me and another editor Crtew are welcoming you ]. Thanks in advance.--FreemesM 12:27, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Please fix this ASAP

Please fix this error you introduced "charged with sedition in 2009, 2010, and 2012". You've confused defamation and sedition. He was charged with sedition only in 2010 and 2012. He was charged with defamation in all of those years above, but he was also charged with defamation in 2011. Crtew (talk) 17:23, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Done; you could have fixed the error, but thanks for the notice.Parkwells (talk) 12:47, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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Archaeology of Igbo-Ukwu

I am doing some work on the article Archaeology of Igbo-Ukwu and would like permission to remove your template for merger. I am not quite done with the article, I think it needs copy editing as it is somewhat disjointed, I have been concentrating so far on adding relevant information in synopsis and adding references. Would be grateful for any help.Ochiwar (talk) 15:26, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Agree with removing template and keeping articles separate. More at Talk page of article.Parkwells (talk) 20:06, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Patterson-Greenfield autos. First African American owned car company.

They are beautiful cars built in the 1915-1929 period. Only 150 were built and none are known to exist. No mention on Misplaced Pages but I found this article: Greenfield Bus Body company. I started Frederick Patterson's page but I'm pretty bad at setting up a page from scratch. Are the pictures in the article public domain being so old or has Coachbuilt gained some copyright over them being on their page?

I especially like this car. Alatari (talk) 19:32, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Very cool, but I suspect Coachbuilt has the copyright to the photos. You might find photos in Library of Congress collections online, which are public domain. Will be glad to help with the Patterson article; should also be one for his father. They might have bios at the "Black Past" website started by a Univ. of Washington professor. Impressive men. Interesting to see the different ways men entered the auto industry - blacksmiths, carriage builders/manufacturers, curtain/drapery repair.Parkwells (talk) 20:10, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
See <<http://www.blackpast.org/?q=aah/c-r-patterson-sons-company-1893-1939 C.R. Patterson & Sons Company", Black Past>>Parkwells (talk) 16:22, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I worked on Frederick Patterson's article tonight with my IP account. I should have logged in but the temptation to go to the watchlist and lose 6 more hours of my life is too great. I added a selection of sources on the talk page. The one 1980 newspaper article has some distinct differences in details. The book about Black Masons is likely the prime source for most the other sources. Yeah, Charles is a notable man of history and needs his article along with the company article. Frederick was a Republican and knew Booker T and worked on getting Harding elected and supposedly is the first black athlete at Ohio State. Alatari (talk) 08:43, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I can't quite figure out which Episcopal church Frederick was in. Was it the AME or the white church? His wife was maybe white (the 1980 newspaper said there was a stir about their marriage) and Methodists were abolitionist very early and it would be interesting if he was a member of his wifes church. Her name is messed up and given in three different forms of Qutz, Utz or Outz. Alatari (talk) 08:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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User:Ngunalik

Hi, I see you agree with me (unsurprisingly) that User:Ngunalik's source for the presence and suppression of Black Hebrews in Uganda is unreliable. He is pushing the same claim with the same source in the article Acholi people; I've deleted it and I've informed him about policies, but I just don't have the time to watch the article and conduct the long discussion-cum-edit-war that is sure to follow (there seems to be a lot that isn't clear to him). Could you possibly keep an eye on his actions with respect to that article as well? Greetings, --Anonymous44 (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for returning to the discussion. It's hard to know if the editor has looked at the guidelines. Have tried to find other sources as well. Bruder doesn't mention the Acholi at all - zip.Parkwells (talk) 19:06, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit Warring and POV pushing on Ten Lost Tribes

You've suddenly started editing the abovementioned article in a manner inconsistent with policy. I'm not sure if you've violated 3RR yet, but I would think you are close. You would be the second editor in 2 weeks that I have had to take to An/I over POV pushing on the article. I would suggest you discuss any proposed changes to the lead on the article talk page first. The lead is a long-standing consensus based text that reflects the content of the article.--Ubikwit見学/迷惑 07:26, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Something went wrong with your last edits to the Talk page of the article, as I noticed that neither the text nor your signature was showing up. I wanted to post the Amaon link to the book mentioned on my Talk page under your post, so tried reversing the order of passages, with some success, but it is still not right. If you know how to fix it, please do.--Ubikwit見学/迷惑 15:09, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm baffled, too. It had happened earlier, and I can't figure it out.Parkwells (talk) 15:27, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

The Lemba (and Great Zimbabwe)

Thank you for your interest in the above topic.

Looking at your edit of 10 May - after "Models of circumcised male organs were found at Great Zimbabwe", I wonder if it might be worth retaining the portion: "(the Lemba appear to have introduced that practice into southern Africa)" - because Gayre was trying to make the point that there was evidence of a connection between GZim and the Lemba. . Regards, --DLMcN (talk) 07:20, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the message (and for re-inserting that sentence) ... Have you actually visited Great Zimbabwe?
No, I haven't been able to go there, but looked up as many photos as I could find after reading the articles on WP related to it. I am increasingly fascinated by these ancient places and thinking about what people created.Parkwells (talk) 16:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

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Chełmno overhaul

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I'd like to thank you for your many invaluable edits to the history of Chełmno extermination camp. It was in a bad shape when I first approached it on 22 April 2013 with further expansion, from 24,103 bytes to 39,981 bytes a month later. I'd like to encourage you also to take your time, and make sure that little errors are not reintroduced (as in the case of Kafka's own sister). Some errors were also introduced with your edit to reception of the film Shoah (film), but I will wait till your finished to avoid any potential confusion. Great job, by the way... And thanks for the c/e to the Chełmno Trials. I will submit it to WP:DYK today as intended. All best, Poeticbent talk 18:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Wow, you did a great job - I could see that much work had been added. Thanks for your comments - an excellent example of how to add suggestions, by the way. Will look again - Kafka's sister was there; all I did was move her to what seemed to be a more logical place, and intended to double check that, as well as some other things.Parkwells (talk) 22:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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The Move (Sam Fife)

Hi! Apparently, a disgruntled former member tried to edit this article according to his/her perspective, resulting in a poorly formatted attack. I put a band-aid on it, but was unable to restore the reflist, which I see as the worst problem. (The whole thing is a general mess, though.) Your expertise there would help should you care to dabble. Best wishes, Yopienso (talk) 17:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, how are you doing? Thanks for thinking of me (I guess). What a mess, is right. May take it on later. I know of no easy way to fix the reflist stuff than to redo every cite under that format - the notes will follow automatically, with their own numbering.Parkwells (talk) 18:11, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm great, thanks. Have a new grandson--that makes three: two girls and a boy, unevenly distributed among our three children.
You're a whiz of an editor, but that's a low-priority article you may not care to invest your time in. Maybe the easiest thing for the reflist is to go back to a previous version of the article and then add/subtract narrative to/from it. I don't really have the time or inclination to do that. Thanks for making the block quotes, which is probably what the IP intended to do, not knowing how to use colons to indent. Take care. Yopienso (talk) 20:27, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Nice copyedits re: Guatemala

Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for your copyedits at Guatemala, History of Guatemala, and Guatemalan Civil War. Copyediting is under-appreciated work and I think you've done a good job of increasing clarity and brevity while preserving meaning. I also note with appreciation your edits at Franz Kafka :-) !!! groupuscule (talk) 19:43, 30 May 2013 (UTC) P.S. Do you read Spanish?

Hi, thanks. I got into the Guatemala topics while applying resources to Misplaced Pages of the World Digital Library (e.g. learning about and adding the influence of Belgium in Guatemala 1840-1854) as part of that project (you may be interested in that). Had only a couple of years of Spanish, so my reading skills are limited. Depends on the subject. I'm decent at reading French. Parkwells (talk) 13:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I signed up for the WDL project too but instead of being constructive like you I posted a long rant to the Project talk page :-)... frustrated about WP:Systemic bias issues. (BTW: good info on the Belgium/Guatemala question seems hard to come by, but here is a relevant dissertation; check out p.126&128 in particular. Santo Tomás de Castilla sounds like it was a pretty rough place to colonize...) Asked about Spanish because I found you at the Guatemala page... and am seeking Spanish readers who want to assist with research about Jacobo Timerman. I'll keep in mind that you're a Francophone. groupuscule (talk) 23:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I know what you mean about the systemic bias, but am just trying to do what I can. While the WDL background material on the item related to Guatemala wasn't lengthy, adding it gave a perspective lacking in those articles on Guatemala. I thought it was signficant for showing the international connections at the time. That's why I added it to those several articles related to Guatemala and Santo Tomas in the 1840s.Parkwells (talk) 13:00, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I surely did not mean to disparage the contributions of hardworking editors like you (and Sarah, for that matter). I agree that the Belgium connection is relevant... and I'm really not interested in deleting material created based on WDL sources. Counterproductive! My concern has more to do with the selection and presentation of items in the WDL itself. WP:CSB is the mission :-)
I love that you jumped into the article on Timerman, and it looks like you've already done some great work there. The question about citizenship/nationality has revealed some new parts of the story... as if it wasn't wild enough already! (Did Timerman spend years more as an exile in Uruguay after crossing Carlos Menem?) I agree with you also on the need for more information on JT's publishing efforts in the 1950s, and on his connection to Graiver. groupuscule (talk) 14:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks - had read about Timerman, and of course reading more made me even more curious. I can make out some in that article - poor man! They wouldn't leave him alone, even though he was ill and retired. Will get back to it.Parkwells (talk) 15:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi, have made some more additions to Timerman and related Argentine figure articles. Using "Translate this page" after learning more about the issues, I can work with articles in Spanish. Added some political context to the events after his death, as this was important.Parkwells (talk) 15:36, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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New page from Arkansas Post National Memorial?

Hey. I noticed you made a few edits to the Arkansas Post page and I've been working on a few related articles. What would you think about moving Arkansas Post National Memorial to a new page dedicated solely to the historical settlement (Arkansas Post (Historical Settlement)?), while keeping a separate page for the memorial itself? I'm planning to do an overhaul of the page soon anyway (just organizing some sources) and the page mostly discusses the history of the settlement anyway instead of the actual memorial. I posted on the article's talk page about it, so feel free to reply there or here with your input/opinion. Samuel Peoples (talk) 18:31, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Update: The article has been moved to a new page at Arkansas Post. See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places for move reason. Samuel Peoples (talk) 08:57, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

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Confused

Paterson (automobile) was there two separate Patterson auto manufacturers producing vehicles in the same decade? These and the P-Greenfield cars from Ohio? That has got to confuse things. 97.85.168.22 (talk) 03:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, apparently there were, which is why the Pattersons in Ohio became identified in histories as Patterson-Greenfield, to help differentiate them. Parkwells (talk) 15:11, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Jacobo Timerman

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"40 acres"

Hey hey hey hey Parkwells! You are a great editor and fun to work with. You also seem knowledgeable about Reconstruction Era history. Maybe you'd have some interest in reviewing the newly revised 40 acres and a mule article? Aloha, ~ groupuscule (talk) 19:19, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Sure, thanks. Will look at it - I came across a couple of books that discussed the dramatic rate of black ownership of land in Mississippi after the war - through private initiative, clearing and buying leased land.Parkwells (talk) 13:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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article, I am wondering why you put Ohkay Owingeh in italics? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:40, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

To indicate that it was another language than English. Parkwells (talk) 18:38, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
To me, I guess, the name of a place in the US is always in English, or something. like that. Carptrash (talk) 13:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Hey, I noticed you recently expanded the Harry Karstens article. I am wondering if you would be interested in helping me expand that for DYK, as you seem to know more about it than me. I was working on a series of the first McKinley expedition in my userspace, and your edit forced me to stop procrastinating! Cheers, ~HueSatLum 04:07, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for helping expand it. I've nominated it (and two other articles) for DYK here. ~HueSatLum 02:08, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Camp Douglas (Chicago)

Thanks for your edits to Camp Douglas. This was one of the first articles, if not the first, to which I made significant edits. I have thought it probably needed cleaning up, but it can be hard to go back to an article on which one has spent considerable time. Usually, I go back to review an article a few times soon after I write or significantly edit it, but after awhile it fades from thought unless some changes show up on my watchlist. I hope I would do a better job today, at least with the tone. I was actually a little surprised that I had picked up some POV words and thoughts from Levy or used them even if I came up with them.

Levy's book is one of the few that I have used as a source that I do not own or could not get online, either free or through Questia. As I recall, he resides in the Chicago area.

He is a lawyer, not an academic historian. The generally positive comments in the review you linked shows that his book was rather good and was well received, at least by the reviewer. I did not think his POV was extreme and I tried to balance that with other sources. I don't recall that he had other books on the Civil War, so it is not surprising he has lower visibility.

Levy made a few mistakes but they did not affect the overall value of his book. He was not aware that the "rank" date of a Civil War brevet general may have had very little coincidence with the confirmation date, even the appointment date, especially for the omnibus appointments that ranked from March 1865 but were not made until 1866 or even later in some cases. So he should not have been surprised that Sweet was not referred to as a general near the end of the war - because that appointment had not been confirmed, probably not even made, at that time.

The review of Levy's book, although only one long paragraph, hits many of his high points and does a good job. Levy also makes the point that the camp was located in a very bad place, low lying with bad drainage, and should have been moved. That was proposed at least once, as I recall. It was difficult to clean it up or upgrade it where it was located. Also, the conditions and treatment of the prisoners was not uniform over time. They both got better and worse depending on the commander and the circumstances. Some improvements were made, but others could have been made. Some downgrading in treatment or diet could have been avoided.

The article originally relied in part on the History Channel documentary. I have seen that program. It is reasonably good but I wanted to eliminate citations to it. It also has been the subject of a little POV pushing. Someone was trying to gradually soften some of the wording. I ultimately let a few of those edits go but finally had to stand up for the fact that it was a bad place and there was little excuse for it - except perhaps revenge for actual or suspected treatment of Union prisoners, which is noted. That's a reason, but not really an excuse. Some of the characterization words may have come from Levy or his opinions but some may have been my way of transitioning - such as from what might appear to have been the case to what the source, Levy or another, more convincing says. I am more attuned to this now and I think I would be unlikely to use such words, at least not very often.

I tried to keep some of the much shorter article which exited prior to my edits but I think I did omit or change some things that were unsourced or did not quite fit into the new section structure I used.

I believe that Hoffman had some oversight of Camp Douglas before he became commissary general of prisoners. I think he may have been stationed outside Washington, DC. Detroit comes to mind. He may have had some sort of regional position. I cannot recall and I wanted to write to you before looking for more information, in case I found none or was delayed I will try to find something on Hoffman's previous tenure, although I probably will need to go to the library if I need to find something in Levy's book, unless there is an excerpt on line.

I think that prisoners were made to work in many camps. I think they were "paid" in some way, but clearly it was not much. I think there was some sort of restriction on work but I will have to do a little research to see if there was any formal restriction or convention. I have a couple other books which might have something on this. I will look.

You are right that some of the bad conditions existed due to ignorance. The fact that Union soldiers died at Camp Douglas when they were training there or when the group that was awaiting exchange had to live there for a few months, and even some of the guards suffered, is a good indication of this. If this point is not made clearly enough, perhaps I can find a source that could be added.

When I saw the readability scale several days ago, I thought I would run a few of my articles through it. Because this one is long, it was done when I was new to editing and I had some thought it might have ended up a little dense, I put the article through the readability test. I was surprised, and actually a little pleased, that it had a decent readability score.

I justified the length of the article, to myself, on the basis that the camp had several uses, several commanders and many changes over time. There also were a number of incidents that seemed worth recording. I also wanted to cover the points in the History Channel show, which I had seen not long before I worked on the article. I also found it difficult to summarize some points because they changed over time.

I am quite glad that you have done such a fine job of editing the article. It relieves me from a nagging feeling that I should go back and clean it up. (One or two of my other early efforts probably need the same treatment.) I will look for sources on the points raised. I have gone on at some length but it is an interesting subject and the article did need some additional light. Donner60 (talk) 03:20, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

My guess about Hoffman was wrong. According to the Misplaced Pages article on Hoffman, he was taken prisoner in Texas at the start of the war and did not assume his office in Washington until August 1862. He had been promoted to colonel while a prisoner but that does not affect his ability to perform his duties. So the text was a poorly lumped together statement. Donner60 (talk) 05:18, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

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Is "Recognised" suitable to describe English on the Brunei info-box in regards to this Section 2 of Article 82 on the Country's Constitution?

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Section 2 - An official version in the English language shall be provided of anything which, by this Constitution or by any written law or by the Standing Orders, is required to be printed or in writing, and such version shall, in addition to the official Malay version, be accepted as an authentic text. Alevero987 (talk) 23:04, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

That sounds like a good way to treat it - also recognized as an official language for written materials. I hadn't noticed that - good point!Parkwells (talk) 14:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Okay :). So you're basically saying yes right? Alevero987 (talk) 15:25, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes - don't know if there is some standard way to deal with this, but it makes sense.Parkwells (talk) 19:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Okay, and the Constitution of Brunei is the Basic law of Brunei? Alevero987 (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm no expert and am just starting to work on this myself.Parkwells (talk) 17:55, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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Done. Also have found new material on publication of his manuscript.Parkwells (talk) 14:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi! Some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with broken reference names. Parkwells (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2013 (UTC)Here you added new references / a new reference ref name="pmid9134437" but didn't define it. This has been showing as an error at the bottom of the article. Cite error: The named reference was invoked but never defined. Can you take a look and work out what you were trying to do? Thanks --Frze (talk · contribs) 17:38, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

It's fixed - the name was a long reference, and I had a typo from the original.Parkwells (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Rhoads/Memorial-Sloan Kettering

This edit is bad. It's shown in several sources that Memorial Hospital merged with Sloan Kettering to form Memorial Sloan Kettering http://www.mskcc.org/. Andrevan@ 22:03, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, was trying to get the wording accurate, as his obit in the NY Times said he was also the scientific director of Sloan-Kettering at the time of his death, so was trying to track the institutional and title changes. (Somehow the obit recently seems corrupted, so is hard to access.)Parkwells (talk) 22:20, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
That's weird. It might be an error in the obit, I think I have a letter from the American Philosophical Society which may not be cited about this, I can try to find it. But it should be possible to find it in a source about Sloan Kettering, not strictly from Rhoads' mouth. It was originally Memorial Hospital that he worked at, then when the hospital merged with Sloan-Kettering, he became the director. Andrevan@ 22:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
here is the obit - I see what you mean by the wording. The author of the obit isn't aware that they became one entity as Rhoads assumed directorship of it. Andrevan@ 22:40, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Actually I think it may have actually gone as "Sloan-Kettering Institute and Memorial Hospital" for a while. Andrevan@ 22:44, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
The issue appears to be that Rhoads stepped back a bit in 1953, and acted as scientific director of Memorial AND of Sloan-Kettering Institute. Cornell University had a similar bio that made this distinction, rather than his being overall director as he'd been doing before. Still trying to check sources against each other.Parkwells (talk) 01:28, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Would love any feedback you have! Andrevan@ 17:10, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

here, for comparison, some Aponte-Vazquez work: the interesting thing is I don't have access to Spanish language sources. I do cover his claims briefly. Andrevan@ 18:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

One of the most interesting ideas is that Rhoads was doing work for other doctors on the locals, and he wasn't just curing diseases, he was also occasionally causing them. In the case of sprue we know this to be true, see Lederer, which I can also send you if you haven't read it - we don't understand how he was doing this - diets? They were on a rigorous diet because it was work with volunteers, largely - sprue isn't some mysterious uncured disease by the way, it's considered like celiac disease or gluten allergies, I believe. This kind of ethical breach - eat a weird diet see if you get sprue - is considered par for the course for 1930s era racist white doctors, and the reveal isn't controversial. One thing that Aponte-Vazquez says is that Katz doesn't speak Spanish and didn't read some of that. There is also some brief Rhoads correspondence with Flexner about finding polio samples. Somehow polio had spread to P.R., Flexner knew of this, and Rhoads went to collect samples, which he sent back to NY. Also, on the funding issue, the Rockefeller Foundation did reimburse Rhoads for his car, which to me to is pretty damning that they ended up using the Cidra research, which I think someone actually basically says. The question is when he was writing Stewart, who worked at Sloan-Kettering in cancer, was he referring to an actual cancer transplant attempted, or merely, as he says, joking around? Payne puts into writing that Beverley "doesn't accept the joke explanation" of the letter.Andrevan@ 18:38, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

The WP article on tropical sprue in fact has a cited statement that a single cause has not been found, and it is still a serious problem in many places- believed to be related to diet, nutrition, maybe other causes, but it can be treated with folic acid and a 3-6 month course of antibiotics (which likely presents difficulties in follow through in some environments.) It can cause anemia, so was part of what Rhoads et al were studying. I read Aponte-Vasquez' article "Rhoads' Confession... No Joke" on his blog. (The long WP article on experimentation in humans unfortunately shows that blindness related to patients wasn't limited to 1930s doctors, and adds many instances to others earlier learned about.)Parkwells (talk) 19:13, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Here is Lederer which is really the best English source we have short of the actual letters, which I may also upload at some point but they are all messy jpg files. Andrevan@ 19:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
This is also a good source for Rhoads "“fantastic and playful composition written entirely for my own diversion and intended as a parody on supposed attitudes of some American minds in Porto Rico.” There is a longer version of that quote in my paper. Andrevan@ 19:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for sending that; I couldn't access the whole thing. It has prompted some suggestions for changes, which I've posted on the Talk page. Still liking your article - you make excellent points.Parkwells (talk) 21:59, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

check this one out and also feel free to go to the archive :) Andrevan@ 22:30, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Your paper is provocative and challenging. I think it is really useful to show how this incident was used by the Nationalists and to show how outside events colored perceptions as well. Playing on fears has always been a route for politicians. I want to read it carefully again, as in a couple of places, you compare it to history's most egregious examples (Stalin) and weaken your own case. But let me read it again. Your insights and long-term view are powerful, and we both know (which you discuss) how the Internet has contributed to the proliferation of conspiracy theories.
The purpose of the Stalin analogy is to show how people can have two basically mutually exclusive narratives about someone's life and actions. To this day there are people who treat Stalin as a hero even as information has come out about his crimes. Andrevan@ 12:31, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I do understand what you mean, but the scale of Stalin's documented crimes is so huge. That's what throws off the comparison for me, as no evidence was found that Rhoads killed anyone. To me, if he had, he wouldn't have written about it. Lederer notes that Payne, who was attached to the Rockefeller Foundation, thought Rhoads' letter was so out of keeping with what he knew of him and his work that he thought he was suffering mentally at the time; and Quinones also suggested a kind of temporary breakdown. Lederer writes about the stress that people had in these kinds of assignments.
The letter itself was a crime even if Rhoads was making up the story about killing and cancer. Racism may not be as serious a crime as murder, but the point is that there was an outcry about Rhoads' characterization about Puerto Ricans -- and Italians -- that offended even the 1930s sensibilities. People had shorter memories back then, so after the scandal was whitewashed and put to bed, Rhoads had a career ahead of him. Andrevan@ 16:48, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Cornelius P. Rhoads

But, for the Rhoads article, I think we have to get back to facts: you say above they forced people to "eat a weird diet see if you get sprue - is considered par for the course for 1930s era racist white doctors" - Lederer wrote it wasn't a weird diet; it was what many poor people lived on. They weren't dealing with really healthy people and making them sick; they were dealing with a large group of people living with these endemic problems caused by hookworm and tropical sprue and the latter caused by diet, they thought, although didn't exactly understand. 100 of the 250-270 people they saw with anemia already had tropical sprue. Based on what drs knew at the time, this was at least in part because of their limited diets. The drs were trying to learn what caused it, in order to prevent and/or find additional ways to treat it. The fact that it is a continuing problem in PR shows that the solution is still not simple - and can't be blamed just on 30s era US doctors.Parkwells (talk) 09:27, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Well, they called it the "characteristic native diet," but the patients whose diets were manipulated weren't on it when they arrived. The point is that people would show up without the problems associated with sprue and Rhoads was putting them on this diet with insufficiencies to produce problems for his study. He also saw them as "experimental 'animals'." That's an ethical violation. Andrevan@ 12:34, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
There does not seem to be enough information to know what the conditions of the study were that had been agreed to. You can't load on to Rhoads alone the responsibility for all the inadequacies we now see in experimental clinical studies of the time. My point was that manipulating diet temporarily and being able to treat it if the condition arose was quite different than Nelsondenis saying people were injected with oxen-portion doses of bacteria. At least you have to acknowledge that. And Lederer showed that the crude expressions of referring to subjects as "animals" in quotes was typical among scientists, however objectionable it is to us. Parkwells (talk) 14:15, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
The case is so provocative that, even without the contributions of your paper (before you get it published), I think people interested in this should make it a separate WP article. The Rhoads bio would then give it briefer coverage, in the overall context of his life. It did not define his life, as he went on to serve the medical community as a researcher and administrator to the end of his life. It may help define him in history, which is a different matter, but even there most historians seem to be considering his whole life. And no evidence was found that he killed anyone. I know editors have expressed their own opinions on that, but that is the conclusion of the sources. (In terms of what has evolved on WP on the US icon, Thomas Jefferson, there is his main article, then linked articles on "Thomas Jefferson and Slavery" - for one complex topic, as well as other aspects of his political career, and the topic of Sally Hemings and their children- no longer a controversy for most historians.)Parkwells (talk) 14:15, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I never said I agreed with Nelsondenis talking about the oxen doses. I also agree that Rhoads was probably typical of his time in many ways, but that doesn't excuse what he did. I think I've been clear that I don't think we can write about the loose ends in the Rhoads case in detail since they don't appear in the source record, but they certainly exist, which colors my understanding of the events. The main reason that I can think of to split out the scandal to a separate article would be if his entire life and career was really so detailed, like Jefferson's, but a specific topic also spanned many volumes of study, like Jefferson and slavery. Rhoads is a fairly self-contained narrative - there are many many doctors who were similar to him, administrators and researchers, many of them his colleagues and contemporaries even. The reason why Rhoads himself bears additional note is the scandal and the narrative that became symbolic for Puerto Ricans, and you can't separate that from his life. Andrevan@ 16:48, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I realize you didn't agree with Nelsondenis on that point. I thought the note about diet being the means of studying sprue might be worth adding to the article. The reason that another article might be useful is that it could be the place to expand on the meaning and uses of this symbolic narrative for Puerto Ricans. This is touched on (as in noting motives of Nationalists in the 1950 assassination attempt), but I don't think can be adequately treated in the Rhoads article. There is nothing in the Nationalist Party article that really explains what a powerful theme it is to them, or how often it is a cultural reference in Puerto Rico.Parkwells (talk) 16:58, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

1918 San Fermin earthquake

A different topic - I noticed your comment in your paper saying that the government's failure in recovery in the aftermath of this contributed to the rise of the opposition and Nationalist Party. I'd like to learn more about it - do you have recommendations for articles or books on that? the WP article on the earthquake doesn't deal at all with the political aftermath; the main article doesn't much address it, nor does the Nationalist party article. There are certainly other examples of natural disasters leading to changes in the political landscape in other places, so I think it's a good point, and the timing is right.Parkwells (talk) 14:15, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure where to go for more info about it - the English language sources for Puerto Rican history in the late 19th and early 20th century are very limited. Andrevan@ 16:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, will do some hunting. Your paper made me think of the whole mixed bag of medical research, charity, and aid - big topic.Parkwells (talk) 13:41, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you found it interesting. In my folder of pics from the archive I have some of the structural damage from the 1918 earthquake, as observed by a previous hookworm commission. It takes a while to wade through all those jpgs but I'll see if I can find the ones about the earthquake, there might be some there worthy of further examination. Andrevan@ 15:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for looking. I found some photos of 1918 damage in Mayaguez at the Poseidon website hosted by the University of Puerto Rico at Mayaguez (as I recall). It included a narrative by a man whose relative had survived the tsunami by going up a hill before the wave came in. Saw some of the activity of the university & gov't for tsunami mapping and warning. I added at least one of those webpages in External links at the 1918 article, plus some material about casualties, property damage, and # of buildings destroyed in Mayaguez.Parkwells (talk) 18:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks, glad to help, and will try to do more. These current topics are difficult to cover.Parkwells (talk) 14:14, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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Lillie Langtry

Noted your edits to Langtry. Minor issue is first paragraph where you changed it to say: born Emilie Charlotte Le Breton, was a British actress who was celebrated as a beauty and public figure. In May 1877, Lady Sebright invited her to "an evening at home". One of the fascinations about her is that in these early days she was NOT an actress but a celebrity - famous for no other reasons but her looks and ability to enchant. When she fell on hard times she took up the acting career (1881). I think that this should be reflected in the summary section at the beginning of the article.

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