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That was a mistake I did, thanks for pointing it out. (] (]) 14:39, 5 August 2014 (UTC)) That was a mistake I did, thanks for pointing it out. (] (]) 14:39, 5 August 2014 (UTC))
:In regards to Hadrian, even though I didn't put any source, there is very limited source that confirm that he was even born in Rome.

http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/21/21h.405/www/hadrian/Hadrian's%20Villa/Hadrian.html
-This one says he was "probably born in Italica, but doesn't provide other possible places of his birth, thus I don't see the reason why Rome should be put in the template box in the first place.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/aelius-hadrian.asp
-This one further explains his family's early establishment into ], giving further evidence he has likely born in said region.
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I understand your comment and reasoning, but I am wondering why the hidden note is there. All of the Hotel Hell Season 1 summaries from 2012 are original (I wrote a couple of them), and all of the current season "Hell's Kitchen" summaries are original. Why is Hotel Hell Season 2 being treated specially? Thanks.


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Yesterday evening (29th) I suggested on the Talk page some wording for the Lead that covers the terrorism point, with footnotes. I did not want to make the edit without general agreement, but only one person has responded. Is it safe to go ahead? You will see I have followed DeCausa's suggestion, part of which follows the way this is dealt with in the Al-Qaeda and Hamas articles.

PS I twice tried adding this message to the earlier section with this heading, but it kept saving onto your User Page! --P123ct1 (talk) 22:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

(NOT IMPORTANT) Sorry about the confusion over posting my messages. Can't think what went wrong. Maybe something to do with the way I have been templating your name. :( --P123ct1 (talk) 10:34, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the thanks. My reading of this is either an attempt at sharing a tip on being anonymous or veiled threat re: OUTING. Either way, it's murky and I ventured a caution (despite being involved) . Seems anyone that interacts with the editor gets entangled. Widefox; talk 10:43, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Probably mostly harmless but although wanting good faith won't give it. And thinks he's being harassed, which is of course not happening. Dougweller (talk) 11:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

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Isn't he something?!! How come he's not indefinitely blocked? -Elias Z 14:59, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't think anyone has taken him to ANI yet. Elie plus, do you want to? Dougweller (talk) 16:06, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Let someone who had more interactions with him do that. I barely have the time to check here lately :( -Elias Z 18:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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He may come back when he has cooled down. I know I was pretty heavy with the two of them on the Talk page yesterday, but I do feel strongly about NPOV in Misplaced Pages. I just didn't seem able to get my point across. I feel as strongly about it as I did about getting some form of wording about terrorism into the article where there had been none before. That is why I was so persistent about that as well. --P123ct1 (talk) 21:36, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

@Dougweller: Thank you, I appreciate your comment. This is the first time in my life I have met trouble like this. It is best that I have no more communication with him, I think. --P123ct1 (talk) 10:42, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
@Dougweller: Thanks. I have looked at the link you give, and at his User page as well. I have the full picture now. --P123ct1 (talk) 11:13, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
@Dougweller: No, I don't mind at all. After the initial shock of what was said, I recovered, although perhaps not as quickly had I not had your messages. I think I knew what I was dealing with before things disintegrated, though. The reactions to your comments on the Talk page early on were quite astounding, so in a way I was forewarned. I knew there was this problem in Misplaced Pages, but didn't realise how serious it was until I saw the project page. Dealing with it must be a real headache for you and your colleagues. So much more I could say. Thanks very much for your support today. --P123ct1 (talk) 18:04, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hey kiddo, les dieudonnistes are french NN, why deleting them ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.168.101.110 (talk) 02:25, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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Cliff Palace

Where did you find the citation for the Cliff Palace photo being taken in 1891? It says that on the photo description, but that can't be used as a source. It mentions that the photo came from the Finnish National Board of Antiquities. On their site, they show the photo in question, and they mention that Gustaf Nordenskiöld visited there in 1891, but they don't actually say that this photo is Nordenskiöld's. - Afiler (talk) 17:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

@Afiler: See and - I use Chrome which translates the page.
I see the photo caption on the Swedish wikipedia page, and that Nordenskiöld published The Cliff Dwellers of the Mesa Verde in 1893, but the photo caption on another wikipedia page can't be considered a reliable source, and that he published the book in 1893 is not evidence that the photo is from 1893. - Afiler (talk) 20:26, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
@Afiler:No, the Swiss wikipedia page was just for background. says "Pueblo ancestors viewed the Anazasi Indians lived in Mesa Verde sheltered in caves around 0-1300 share their culture lasted the beginning and end. There are several ruined villages. Cliff Palaceksi named after the village had 217 residential and storage rooms and 23 ceremonial halls. Residents must have been two hundred. Photo by Gustaf Nordenskiöld. National Board of Antiquities." That's sufficient. Dougweller (talk)

Your opinion

W.B. Bartlett has wrote a number of books, including one on the Titanic. I can not find any information concerning this person's education, "expertise", etc. Can you help? --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Go to resources request and see if anyone can get you a copy of Review--W.B.Bartlett, An ungodly war: the sack of Constantinople & the Fourth Crusade by Bernard S Bachrach - published in Choice.. Dougweller (talk) 21:02, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Any opinion on Omniglot the online encyclopedia? I probably don't have to tell you which user uses this as a source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:05, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Irish Irish

Filled with a big flamin' quack. You have previous I see, I think you twigged, no? Murry1975 (talk) 18:30, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Doug, to the extent you know anything about this master, I'm clerking the SPI. I pinged Murry1975 yesterdayish because he had offered more evidence "if needed" and I said yes, more would be helpful. However, none has been forthcoming. He's edited only twice since I pinged him, and perhaps he didn't pay attention or didn't have the time, dunno, but, generally, the burden for this sort of thing is on the filer. At the same time, I hate to let go of what may very well be a meritorious report. If you have anything that would assist, that would be great.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

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There is some discrepancy as to the birth of Willie Lynch within the Misplaced Pages text. 1712 or 1742... Is this a son?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:D:5D80:60B:D157:1CBB:8F77:97CB (talk) 02:27, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Which article is this? Dougweller (talk) 19:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Daffodil University

Dear Dougweller, Hope you are well. Please consider following url and please requesting you to re-think for Daffodil content that you have removed last. http://daffodilvarsity.edu.bd/about-us/ranking.html http://daffodilvarsity.edu.bd/component/content/article/38-main/362-diu-club.html Daffodil International University recently achived the well ranking in the two sites and just added their exeisting clubs and it activities. See the https://en.wikipedia.org/North_South_University They have added their clubs names so why not Daffodil ? I and Daffodil International University need helps from you. Please guide us. Thanks Rafiqul Alam Rubel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafiqulalamrubel (talkcontribs) 11:17, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Re:Momcilo Gavric

Hi, thanks for the help. "Sudbina najmlađeg kaplara" seems to be another biographical book about him. I found a link confirming its existence (cyrillic title): http://bibliografije.nb.rs/bibliografija/cip/CM2014032/naslovi021.html In the e-mails that I've recieved, there has been no mention about whether the book confirms that it should be "10", or if it should be "8". - Anonimski (talk) 14:08, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Anonimski but that doesn't really help decide if it meets WP:RS. Have you read that and WP:VERIFY? They are really important reading. Dougweller (talk) 14:42, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately I can't get much more info about the book, other than the fact that it exists in the Serbian national library (and I don't live in Serbia). For example, for the previous book in the list, I could find that it had been recieved positively by the literary community, and that it's from a well established author: link
The one we're talking about doesn't seem to have reached much notability/popularity, on this page (link) I found that it's only been printed in 1000 copies. I can't find any mentions of it in media (at least not online newspapers, etc.). Maybe we should remove it, for now? - Anonimski (talk) 18:03, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
...and now Moca1810 has done the same edit as before. - Anonimski (talk) 18:06, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

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Argh. Why is it that people who choose to use the words "History" or "Truth" in their name seem so often to be incapable of pursuing either in a way that is acceptable to Misplaced Pages? - Sitush (talk) 14:18, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
And he was being polite. But then he self-destructed. Dougweller (talk) 14:30, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Re: your last message

That was a mistake I did, thanks for pointing it out. (N0n3up (talk) 14:39, 5 August 2014 (UTC))

In regards to Hadrian, even though I didn't put any source, there is very limited source that confirm that he was even born in Rome.

http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/21/21h.405/www/hadrian/Hadrian's%20Villa/Hadrian.html -This one says he was "probably born in Italica, but doesn't provide other possible places of his birth, thus I don't see the reason why Rome should be put in the template box in the first place.

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/aelius-hadrian.asp -This one further explains his family's early establishment into Hispania, giving further evidence he has likely born in said region. (N0n3up (talk) 01:59, 6 August 2014 (UTC))

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