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Reflinks bug

This bug is caused by Reflinks (the latest version). "Meld je aan of registreer je om een reactie te plaatsen!" is Dutch and means "Login or register to comment".  Fixed Arcandam (talk) 01:40, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

User page redirect

Hey, Arcandam,I noticed your userpage redirects to an article with the same title as your username. I'm just notifying you that per Misplaced Pages:User pages#Categories.2C templates.2C and redirects, user pages should not redirect to anything other than your talk page. Happy editing! Shuipzv3 (talk) 05:11, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I think you've misread that sentence. Quote (emphasis mine): "User talk pages should not redirect to anything other than the talk page of another account controlled by the same user.". Arcandam (talk) 05:26, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Facepalm , sorry for bothering you. Keep up your good work with correcting the citing mistakes. Shuipzv3 (talk) 05:32, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Arcandam (talk) 05:41, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, a few citations from WP:USERPAGE:

If you prefer to put nothing here then you can redirect it to your user talk page for the convenience of other editors.

Details about yourself should not normally go in the main encyclopedia namespace (reserved for encyclopedia articles only), and encyclopedia articles should never link to any userspace pages.

Inappropriate internal or external links that unexpectedly direct the reader to unreasonable locations or violate prohibitions on linking may also be removed or remedied by any user.

Creating a user page is optional. If you do not wish to put anything there, you can redirect it to your talk page, so that anyone visiting it will be sent there instead.

Believe me, you should change the redirekt. --Ben Ben (talk) 17:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Why? Arcandam (talk) 19:12, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

The most useful reason is that when I click on your username in your signature I'm looking to see information on you. Not only what you might have on your userpage, but your contributions / block log / etc. As it sits, I end up at the article and sit there for a moment going 'Uhh why do I not see user contributions in the toolbar?'. You're perfectly welcome to keep the link to the article, but the redirect is confusing. Syrthiss (talk) 12:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Ah, that is something I can understand. I think I have a solution but it means breaking the license; copying the content of the article. Arcandam (talk) 12:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, historically I don't recall that kind of action having a favorable conclusion. WP:FAKEARTICLE I think is what people cite when that happens. You could probably get by with limited information from the article, but a full cut-and-paste wouldn't be warranted. If I had to choose between the redirect and this, I'd say keep the redirect. Syrthiss (talk) 12:38, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok. For now I will keep the redirect. Arcandam (talk) 12:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Update: I tried it differently. I have used {{userpage}} to avoid WP:FAKEARTICLE problems. Arcandam (talk) 03:26, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Good job reverting the vandalism here! Riley Huntley (talk) No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 01:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Whoohoo! Thanks mate! Arcandam (talk) 01:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Putin

I was removing pov material. Misplaced Pages claims not to be a forum but your actions prove that it is a forum for idiots to speak rubbish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.178.184 (talk) 09:46, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

The edits I reverted did not contain pov material. edit 1 & edit 2. Arcandam (talk) 09:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes they did. Also the talk page is for discussion on the article. It's not a forum for nutters to type rubbish.

I guess you are one of the nutters who edit wikipedia and fill it with junk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.178.184 (talk) 10:02, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I have linked those two edits above. Which part of those edits contains POV? Another user (named Toddy1) has reverted the edits you are talking about. Check the history of the article. Arcandam (talk) 10:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

New Pages update

Hey Arcandam :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:39, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage prototype released

Hey Arcandam! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:48, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Kanye West

Hi there. Since you're both established enough editors, I'll spare you the dramatic template and just let you know that you both are dancing on the edge of 3RR. The proper way to proceed is to have a discussion about the edit in question at Talk:Kanye West. Get uninvolved third parties to weigh in, etc.. You both know how it should work, so do it please. Cheers, Sven Manguard Wha? 23:45, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks mate! As you can see I've tried to communicate, he just reverted, so he was editwarring according to WP:EDITWAR and I am not. But please do not block him, I finally managed to get a conversation started, and he is willing to discuss it but he was busy working. Arcandam (talk) 23:50, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually, 3RR cares remarkabally little about who is communicating and who isn't. It's still an edit war. Good to see that you two are moving forward. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:45, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

True. 3RR has its advantages and disadvantages. I think it will be quite a lot of work to fix all the problems we've discovered so far, for example the article Hip pop is far from perfect. It seems like we slowly start to understand eachother. Arcandam (talk) 21:58, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Your post on my talk page

I was on a wikibreak but in any case don't want to get involved with the article right now. Dougweller (talk) 14:31, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, no worries. He seems to have changed his opinion, see here. Yes, I know, different username, but it is the same person. Arcandam (talk) 22:02, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Glad to see all the help you are offering him. I like the bit about 'magic'. Dougweller (talk) 06:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Response

For the sake of that discussion page, I'll respond here. I asked around for comments to the AfD page from editors of music wikiprojects, particularly hip hop's wikiproject, so I'll hold off commenting there till then. Regarding this, what do you mean by that? Dan56 (talk) 03:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, I don't know how many accounts you have. So it is possible that you are correct. Arcandam (talk) 03:20, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Only one... correct about what? Dan56 (talk) 03:21, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

You claimed you wrote those articles in their entirety. Arcandam (talk) 03:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't think this subheader is more convenient? Our discussion under it seems to branch out a separate dispute. Dan56 (talk) 03:35, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to add a header with the word "diversion" or "nonsense" above your own comments, but don't do that to mine. Did you read WP:CANVASS? Arcandam (talk) 03:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes? Dan56 (talk) 03:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Good. Arcandam (talk) 03:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Then don't accuse me of canvassing. Dan56 (talk) 05:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, maybe I wouldn't say "you are canvassing" if you didn't canvass. I remember a short while ago when you were not canvassing (or at least not that I was aware of!) and I did not accuse you of canvassing. But now I am aware you have been canvassing. And not just on this article. Indie hip hop is another of your victims. I think I will need to spend some time looking into your contributions and figuring out what is going on. Arcandam (talk) 05:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Enlighten me. How did I do canvassing after you asked me whether I read WP:CANVASS? Dan56 (talk) 19:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Why are you being so hostile? Dan56 (talk) 19:27, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

LOL. ^^ Projection ^^ Arcandam (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC) p.s. Dude, remember, we have a log of every edit you made. Anyone who wants to check who started with a hostile tone can check our contributions. If you don't remember anymore: go look it up.

I know. I'm part of that "we". Dan56 (talk) 19:32, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Then please join my side instead of fighting against me. I have lots of experience, I can help you, and I am not too lazy to dig for sources. Arcandam (talk) 19:35, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I think there's a bit of a language barrier here. When I called them "fine", the connotation was that your effort was. You were referring to how many, and in America that kind of sentiment is common to express. Dan56 (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll lay off the discussion for both articles, wait for others to comment. Dan56 (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Lay off nominating hip hop related articles please. And stop trying to be the self-appointed genre-police, you are not an expert on hiphop-related genres. And stop being impolite to others, including myself. And stop reverting constructive edits by other users with silly edit summaries. And look into the mirror; is it possible that you turned into that thing you set out to destroy: a WP:GENREWARRIOR? Arcandam (talk) 19:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't spend 95 percent of the time editing genres. You can learn something from me about hip hop. Not only I am involved in my local scene in New York, I took a class on hip hop in college and know plenty from using GoogleBooks to research hip hop history and culture. I've written and edited plenty of hip hop articles on WP, so please don't question my judgement here. I nominated "hip pop" for deletion, b/c it appeared to mirror the content of another article that was deleted, "pop rap". Let's agree to disagree on that article, but don't question my knowledge on any music, let alone hip hop. Thank you. Dan56 (talk) 19:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

You took a class? Dude, I am impressed. Sorry, I think you just won the debate. I apologize for wasting your time with my inferior brain. Arcandam (talk) 19:42, 20 May 2012 (UTC) p.s. What can I learn from you about hip hop? p.p.s. I ate a donut once; I am an expert on anything related to the police. Do you want me to explain the PIT maneuver to you?