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Here are my observations of different underlying philosophies of Misplaced Pages which may underlie conflicts. People with different views on these spectrums may be stuck in a conflict which is actually a meta-conflict.

Disclaimer: This is just me rambling.

The first of these continua employ standard Wiki terms. The others I just made up.

Eventualism vs. immediatism

Extreme immediatism

  • The key is to make Misplaced Pages a useful and reliable Internet resource as of now.
  • Any edit which is problematic should be reverted on sight; there is no time to fix it while live.
  • New ideas for changes should be developed in a sandbox.

Moderate immediatism

  • Articles should be in as good condition as possible when they are live.
  • Dispute notices should be avoided unless there's no clear "right" version to post in interim.
  • Reverting poor writing and unbalanced coverage is appropriate. Cleaning it up would be too tricky and take too long.
  • Sandboxes are most geared towards proposed major edits.

Moderate eventualism

  • It is worth maintaining articles in good condition, but not to the extent it would stymie their organic growth through the Wiki process.
  • Edits should only be reverted if they are unsalvageable or at least hard to salvage.
  • Poor and biased writing should be addressed, but unless there is no content should not simply be erased.

Extreme eventualism

  • The process of free, continuous editing will in the long run make articles better and better.
  • Only vandalism should be reverted. Anyone who makes an edit has something to say which should be respected.
  • Poor and biased writing and misinformation will be corrected in due time. Relax.

Statusquoism

Deliberately not in continuum order to order concepts.

Moderate statusquoism

  • The state an article has been in for some length of time is the benchmark.
  • Edits which add controversial material should be reverted until justified in Talk.

Moderate anti-statusquoism

  • Edits should not be reverted unless they are truly just troublesome.
  • Poor writing is not a problem; later editors will fix it up.
  • If an edit is so controversial that it should be reverted, an explanation should be given on Talk so the author can respond.

Extreme anti-statusquoism

  • Edits should not be reverted unless they are basically vandalism.
  • Poor writing, biased coverage, and questionable information is no problem; in time, later editors will fix this up.
  • Similar to eventualism.

Extreme statusquoism

  • An article should not be altered in any potentially controversial way without prior justification.
  • The removal of controversial content, say pending fact-checking or discussion, should be reverted until justified in Talk and agreed upon.
  • The burden of proof is on anyone who wants to make a change. Unless they're reverting.

Communityism vs. encylopedianism

Communityism

  • Misplaced Pages should be made a welcoming place for newcomers who wish to participate.
  • Actions which might be seen as rude and disrespectful to others should be avoided, even if avoiding them temporarily negatively affects the content.
  • Personal attacks should not be tolerated.

Encyclopedism

  • The sole purpose of Misplaced Pages is to build an encyclopedia; social interaction is a byproduct of no importance.
  • Treating people respectfully and being nice to newbies is only desirable inasmuch as it encourages contribution.
  • Personal attacks are no big deal. Indeed, it is hard to say they're bad at all if it makes an editor who is wrong back off.

Authorism vs. anti-authorism

Authorism

  • Articles, or sections of article, often have a distinguished "main author" who is primarily the writer of the article.
  • The original author should be regarded as having more clout than others in how it should be organized and flow.
  • While major changes by non-authors should require justification, the original author should feel entitled to reorganize his own prose.
  • An article may require inquiry as to "original intent" from the author before changes are made.

Anti-authorism

(I'd like a punchier name for this.)

  • There is no author for articles. Although one person may seed an article, each one is a community effort.
  • Once an article text has been submitted, the submitter has no special privileges vis-a-vis future edits to that text.
  • There is no "original intent" other than what is in the text and perhaps notes on the discussion page.

Rehabilism vs. anti-rehabilism

Sketchy

Anti-rehabilism

  • Trolls and other problem users and should be banned and done with.
  • A former troll has a lot to prove if they want to ever be allowed to contribute again.

Rehabilism

  • Every editor, even vandals, is a potential contributor.
  • Every opportunity should be extended for a former troll to rehabilitate themselves.
  • The cost of fighting a troll is higher than fixing whatever trouble they cause.

Edit warring

Wholly lacking titles here.

WikiPacifism

  • Edit wars poison the page history, flood recent changes, and disrupt other editors.
  • A responsible user should walk away from a persistent reverter. Let others handle it.

Not considered harmful

  • Edit wars are part of the editorial process.
  • The damage from a war now and then is minimal and greatly overstated.
  • Repeatedly reverting a damaging edit is wholly appropriate.

Adminship

Who should become an admin. To be completed.