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You're welcome.

You're welcome.
Happy to support the valid points you made. By the way, I've proposed some additional language citing facts that are not supportive of the IPCC's projections on climate change. You may be interested, and I would encourage you to check them out in the talk page. Kolg8 (talk) 14:12, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Kolg8. Have you had a chance to look into this list? Cheers.

Aggregate data lists

Hi Guarapiranga,

I noticed that you are a heavy contributor to all sorts of lists of data points on Misplaced Pages. I am interested in such lists as well, but many of them are very difficult to maintain and update. In theory, the ones that come from a single source should be easy to update, but someone needs to write a script to do this. Still, it is hard to believe that every update currently made (e.g. annual update) is made by hand. Are you aware of any existing tools for updating such lists, even if they only deal with a specific list?

Thanks, Ynhockey 10:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ynhockey, what I've been trying to do is link the lists via transclusion. Look for instance at the List of South American countries by population and how it's linked to the List of countries by population. Not only were the population figures there static (and therefore outdated), but all calculations were pasted as number. I have since then replaced them with formulas linked to the source column. This doesn't always work, as the wiki engine is not designed for spreadsheets, so it takes some playing around with the syntax for it to work.
Alternatively, there's a script that queries tables from Wikidata, but I find that's too automated, as much of the work in keeping the data up to date requires pulling it out from external sources not prepared for scraping (and many times in foreign languages). Again, a good example of that is the List of countries by population, which is maintained by vigilant wikipedians. But even there the percentage calculations were made by entering the population numbers twice, one for the pop column and one for the percent column, which is obviouly prone to error, instead of transcluding from one to the other, so I changed that. Guarapiranga (talk) 19:50, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
There is, however, a lot of resistance from editors to working with transcluded data across articles, Ynhockey (see Oldest people, for example). — Guarapiranga  02:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

De-grouchifying

I realized on a re-read that I'd been a bit testy in my wording toward you, on the content alignment threads. Sorry about that. I think it's a seasonal affect thing that's put me in a poor mood. Today is American Thanksgiving, and Christmas is around the corner. Both of them being very family-oriented holidays, they make me unhappy because few of my family members are still living and those that are live half a continent away. At least I'm catching myself at projecting my mood around. Need to compartmentalize better again!  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

No offence taken, SMcCandlish. If you realised you're in a bad mood, you're already halfway out of it. Happy holidays! Guarapiranga (talk) 20:39, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:List of countries by prevalence of circumcision and female genital mutilation

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AfC notification: Draft:List of countries by prevalence of circumcision and female genital mutilation has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:List of countries by prevalence of circumcision and female genital mutilation. Thanks! -- RoySmith (talk) 13:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for intervening, RoySmith. This is the result of a clear effort from a mob of Wiki activists at the service of the US medical establishment to impose their own consensus over the whole English-speaking world, of which WP.en should be a reflection of. This is my latest draft before it was mangled and bulldozed by them. Guarapiranga (talk) 02:13, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

New templates now listed at Help:Sorting, etc

The new templates you created are now listed here:

--Timeshifter (talk) 11:05, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Ping fix

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Thumbs up icon Thanks. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 11:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

common.js

Regarding note you've already redefined importScript once (in the caching code!), doing it again stops any caching; also there is an error in that function -- it'll only work for script pages that don't have spaces in their titles. – SD0001 (talk) 16:30, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Right! Thanks. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (b> 01:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Antarctica is NOT a country

Did you put the circular graph in the List of countries and dependencies by area?? Georgia guy (talk) 01:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Answered on the appropriate talk page. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 [[User talk:Gua 2021 (UTC)

Please use template sandboxes, the testcases page, and the template talk page

Twice in the last few days, you have made multiple edits to live templates that are transcluded in many pages, introducing breaking changes. I recently reverted erroneous edits at {{Flaglist}}, which happened after you broke {{UN population}}. For any but the simplest of edits, please make your edits to the template's sandbox, then use the template's testcases page to ensure that you have not broken anything, then explain your changes on the template's talk page. Feel free to ping me from a template talk page if you would like feedback on your proposed edits to a template sandbox. If there are no objections to your proposed changes, it is then appropriate to copy the sandbox code to the live template. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

To add to this, are you aware of the "Preview page with this template" feature at the bottom of the edit form? I've wondered if you are given the pace at which you edit modules. Sorry if you already know this. Nardog (talk) 04:04, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Aha! I didn't. Thanks. I had seen the field there, but never looked into what it was. Cheers. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚  08:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome, but please don't forget to make use of sandbox and testcases pages as well. Nardog (talk) 15:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:If exist

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Nonscinote

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Documentation

Hey, would you mind adding documentation when you create templates/modules, such as Module:Sort table and Module:List of countries? Thanks. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:22, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

I do, in due course, when they're ready for use. Those templates aren't operational. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚  00:12, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
@Guarapiranga: ah, thanks for explaining. I couldn't figure out what they were meant to do and I guess that's why :p Elli (talk | contribs) 00:25, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Since you asked, I've just added short descriptions in their doc pages, and noted them as pre-alpha, Elli. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚  03:46, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 03:47, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Since you mentioned it, I've also added docs for Module:User scripts table (the only one that's ready) and Module:Table graph.(also in development), Elli. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚  04:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Awesome! Working on improving documentation around Module- and Template-space so I really appreciate it :) Elli (talk | contribs) 04:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
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Nomination for deletion of Module:GetContent

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Ok, changed. — Guarapiranga  10:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

For the revised version of the list of countries by GDP (nominal)

I have observed the new editing you recently do in the current version of the article and I appreciate your efforts. However, it makes me extremely confused about how you made the ranking as it seems there is no scenario by restructing the tabulation which shows some statistical advanced countries being put behind while some others have lower figures are forwarded. May I ask your criteria on how you determined the ranking before the renewal? If you have no appropriate elaboration then I regret I would request to reverse to the old one. 123.195.130.73 (talk) 04:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

  1. The ranking is not fixed. Rather, the 1st column has {{static row numbers}}, and you can rank the rows by whichever column you choose.
  2. The initial order, if I'm not mistaken, is the average of the GDP estimates (nothing to do with how advanced the countries are).
𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚  05:45, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for respondng. I have seen the enhancement to the new tabulations you have made today and it's a great work, same structure can be applied to other similar lists like GDP (PPP) in your convenience, I would appreciate that.123.195.130.73 (

Invoking scripts

Hi, regarding WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 191#Invoking scripts from the url.... (Sorry I didn't get to this until it was archived.) What you may have been thinking of is the following: you can go to a page, then enter something like javascript:importScript('User:UserName/scriptName.js'); in the address bar to invoke the script.

This method works in Chrome and Edge. For Internet Explorer, you'd have to tack functionName(); onto the end. A different method is required for Firefox: you'd have to open the JavaScript Console (Ctrl-Shift-K in Windows) and enter importScript('User:UserName/scriptName.js');. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:36, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me on this, Mandarax. What I had in mind is the case that was answered at VPT, but your suggestih love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 16:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Resurrecting Mens Issues Wikiproject?

Hello! I noticed that you have expressed that you would like to participate in the men's issues Wikiproject (I have too) and wondered if you'd like to help revive it? I'm still new to Misplaced Pages but I feel that men's issues (could rename it to men's lib to relfect the current name for men's progessivism?) can become more inclusive if we revive it? I'm a trans man myself and I can cover issues relating to trans men.

Vulture (a.k.a. Transandrosupport) ([[Userage delivered to you wit, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

If you choose to learn the hard way, so be it. GoodDay (talk) 22:52, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Strange coincidences

Hi! I was reading the Holodomor page earlier and came across your edits. Your name "Guarapiranga" stood out to me! Was wondering where are you from hahaha btw yove by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 21:30, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:List of countries by prevalence of circumcision and female genital mutilation

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Adding documentation

Hey! I see you've been adding some usage examples to some templates (1 2). Please keep in mind that, when using tbullet, you must use {{BASEPAGENAME}}, not {{PAGENAME}}. This is because {{PAGENAME}} includes the entire title. This means the page attempts to transclude the /doc, and this leads to template recursion (See Category:Pages with template loops). Meanwhile, {{BASEPAGENAME}} is just the regular template page. Thanks! Aidan9382 (talk) 04:44, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Your edit summaries

Why do your recent edit summaries contain the page titles as section links? They're not helpful as they lead nowhere. Nardog (talk) 13:53, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, Nardog. Must be one of the editing tools I'm using. Can you point me to an example? Cheers. — Guarapiranga  01:18, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Ah, it's wikiplus; I configured it wrong. I based it on its instructions, which picks up wgPageName instead of the section name. What's the mw.config variable for section name? I couldn't find it here or on meta.Guarapiranga  03:44, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 FixedGuarapiranga  05:25, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Special:WantedTemplates

Hi! Would it be possible for you to add

/* <nowiki> */

to the top and

/* </nowiki> */

to the bottom of User:Guarapiranga/search-shortcuts.js? By putting these tags inside of javascript comments, it won't impact the functionality of your script, but it will keep the backend software from transcluding Template:", "Template:" ).replace( ". You will know if the tags worked if Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:", "Template:" ).replace( " no longer shows your javascript page. By fixing these, we can keep the number of entries in Special:WantedTemplates to a minimum. Thank you in advance for your help! Plastikspork ―Œ 14:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done
A-ha, so that's what it's for! I noticed it on Enterprisey's and SD001's versions, but thought they were commented out testing stuff.
Any particular reason why you chose to ask rather than make the change yourself? Is it a rule or protocol not to edit user scripts (even if they intervene with the functioning of WP more widely)? — Guarapiranga  20:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, that worked! Could you do the same with User:Guarapiranga/vector.css or just fix the double braces around the font-size:85%? It is currently showing in Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Font-size:85%. Only you or interface editors are allowed to edit your .css and .js pages. Someone could do a lot of damage to your WP experience by maliciously editing those pages, which is why there are high-level edit restrictions to those pages. In the past, as an administrator, I was allowed, but not anymore. It's probably for the best since not all administrators understand css and javascript. Thanks again! Plastikspork ―Œ 21:33, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
just fix the double braces around the font-size:85%
Oops, must've been drunk when I did that 😄 — Guarapiranga  21:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch § RfC: Relative time references - 'today' or not 'today'?

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transclusion labels

Hi Guarapiranga, I'm not sure what you were trying to achieve with this edit to Results of the 2022 Australian federal election (Senate) - labeling a section with tags <section begin= /><section end= /> enables you to transclude the labeled section, BUT using the same heading more than once on a page causes problems - it only works for the first section. It seems like what you want to achieve is to transclude only the main parties. A better way to achieve this is to use <noinclude></noinclude> tags to prevent transcluding particular rows. The way it's been done for previous elections is to only include parties that won or lost seats. You can also use <includeonly></includeonly> tags to add an additional row at the end for others - this will only show up on the transclusion. Also {{Excerpt}} is generally easier to use than transcluding. I have edited Results of the 2019 Australian federal election (House of Representatives), Results of the 2019 Australian federal election (Senate) and 2019 Australian federal election to do what I think you're trying to achieve. --Find bruce (talk) 00:56, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure what you were trying to achieve with this edit
    That.
  • using the same heading more than once on a page causes problems
    Not according to H:LST.
Guarapiranga  01:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Just saw your table at Templates for discussion - labeled section tags do work to exclude text from transclusion, but the reason for noinclude tags is more obvious to other editors and avoids any issues with multiple sections with the same name. Find bruce (talk) 01:11, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
  • the reason for noinclude tags is more obvious to other editors
    Is it a question of preference then?
  • and avoids any issues with multiple sections with the same name.
    What issues? Discontiguous labeled section transclusion is standard use of <section> tags.
Guarapiranga  01:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

List of victims of the September 11 attacks

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Article on Brit Milah

Hi Guaraparanga. I noticed that you reversed my rather small edit on Brit Milah. It was kind of a test edit, as I find that this article violates, in many ways, the WP policy on NPOV. As a relatively inexperienced WP editor, I thought that I would reach out to you and see what your POV and intentions are with respect to the article. If you look at the Brit Milah Talk page, you will see a couple of complaints about the obvious problems with this article. It has obviously been edited by people who do not like circumcision. If you look at the article on Circumcision, an admittedly controversial topic, you will notice that the article is quite balanced, including circumcision within the Jewish population. "Brit Milah" is about the Jewish ceremony and practice. It was a minor point within the biased article, but still highly misleading for someone to say that a "growing number" of Jews have chosen not to circumcise their sons. If it is growing from .01% to .03%, then that is growing, but it is still insignificant. In your reversal, you indicated that you would add a RS. However, there are already 6 sources there. Are you saying that these sources are not reliable? The Brit Milah article is full of sources, but that does not necessarily make them reliable. Soon, I plan to enter on the Talk page my intention to considerably edit the article to give it NPOV. Speaking of sources, the article on Brit Milah in the Jewish Virtual Library would seem like a great reference. I see that the JVL article is linked at the bottom of the article, but it is not listed as a numbered source in the WP article. So, at this point, I am looking for feedback and guidance from you. Regards, Howardlhoffman Howardlhoffman (talk) 00:25, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Howardlhoffman,
  • I noticed that you reversed my rather small edit on Brit Milah.
    All part of the WP:CYCLE.
  • It was kind of a test edit, as I find that this article violates, in many ways, the WP policy on NPOV.
    In what ways?
  • As a relatively inexperienced WP editor, I thought that I would reach out to you and see what your POV and intentions are with respect to the article.
    What I can tell you is that WP:NPOV doesn't mean what most new editors think it means. The neutrality it speaks of is that of the editors in relation to the sources, not of the sources themselves (WP:YESPOV):

    Achieving what the Misplaced Pages community understands as neutrality means carefully and critically analyzing a variety of reliable sources and then attempting to convey to the reader the information contained in them fairly, proportionately, and as far as possible without editorial bias.

    Our own POV, as editors, therefore ought to be irrelevant; that's what WP:NPOV means.
  • It was a minor point within the biased article, but still highly misleading for someone to say that a "growing number" of Jews have chosen not to circumcise their sons. If it is growing from .01% to .03%, then that is growing, but it is still insignificant.
    WP doesn't draw conclusions; that's WP:OR. If the RS say it's "growing", then WP says it's growing (whether significant or not).
  • In your reversal, you indicated that you would add a RS. However, there are already 6 sources there. Are you saying that these sources are not reliable?
    One of them wasn't—and advocacy website—so I removed it, and added others.
  • The Brit Milah article is full of sources, but that does not necessarily make them reliable.
    Indeed it doesn't; consensus at WP:RSP does. The ones that aren't reliable ought to be removed per WP:RS (as I've just done).
  • Speaking of sources, the article on Brit Milah in the Jewish Virtual Library would seem like a great reference.
    And right there is an example of a source deemed not reliable here at WP.
  — Guarapiranga  00:47, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi Guarapiranga. Thank you for the detailed response to my comments above. You have been most helpful. I have spent quite a bit of time reviewing the WP references in your response.
To answer your question: It was a test to see what would happen when I made a small edit to the article. I have in mind doing a lot of edits to the Brit Milah article, but I wanted to see what kind of response I would get from other editors. And, I was hoping for help, so thank you again.
With respect to your comment: "WP doesn't draw conclusions", I have found 3 important WP policies that are relevant to the Brit Milah article and my interest in editing it: WP:Cherrypicking, WP:Fringe, and WP:Undue. As of this moment, the article has lots of good information, but it is full of Cherrypicking, relies on Fringe theories, and gives Undue weight to certain POV's. All of this is in violation of NPOV. The article is especially in violation in the Lead Section. So, I started checking the sources. Great example: the cited article "Increasingly, a Ritual Is Bypassed" from the NYT. The NYT article states: ". . . circumcision remains nearly universal among American Jews, with 98 percent of Jewish men having been circumcised". This is precisely why I made my small initial edit. The NYT article goes on to say "But within the Bay Area, there is a debate ...". Well, I have lived in the Bay Area for most of the past 52 years, and I am familiar with this fringe line of thinking (against circumcision within the Jewish community). I know hundreds of Jewish males, including converts, in the Bay Area and I know of exactly 2 that are not circumcised. Admittedly, there might be others, as I do not do inspections :>) And, as the NYT article states is most often the case, the 2 are of a single mixed marriage (father not Jewish).
So, here is how I plan on proceeding and I would appreciate your feedback on this: I plan on announcing my intentions on the Brit Milah talk page so that everyone can see why I am editing the way I am. I hope that you and other editors can help me in improving this article. I will do the editing in pieces, rather than doing it all at once, and there will be an entry on the talk page each time instead of long Edit Summaries.
Question: When an editor cites a book as a source, how does one go about seeing if it is a legitimate source for the small amount of text added? Anyone can cite a book as a reference and Cherrypick to their heart's content. Life is too short to read every book on the subject listed as a reference in this article. Howardlhoffman (talk) 23:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Indeed it is, Howardlhoffman. Hopefully, one of the 120,097 of us, (active) editors, will check each book. Typically, what happens to me is that when I'm looking into a topic, I start with WP of course, and follow it to the sources. If I find the sources don't support its text, I change it. I never really took a whole article to have it completely checked and revamped (other than perhaps lists and very small ones).
Now, specifically regarding your edit that I reverted, you say the vast majority of male Jews are circumcised, and I see no source stating the opposite. Saying that the proportion of uncircumcised Jews is growing doesn't contradict that. — Guarapiranga  22:42, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

"Marie Rose Abad" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Formatting is broken

Hey. Your recent edits on circumcision keep breaking the notes and citation parts of the article. They're both now presently filled with "error" messages; many aren't displaying at all.

Wanted to give you a heads up, @Guarapiranga: :Thanks, KlayCax (talk) 07:12, 8 August 2022 (UTC).

KlayCax:
  1. What "error" messages did you see? I don't see any in my last version.
  2. How do the "error" messages in Circumcision explain your reverts of my edits in Prevalence of circumcision?
  3. Whatever trying to do is explained in my edit summary: Circumcision § Future is a copy of Prevalence of circumcision § Future; to make sure they don't develop in different directions, I transcluded Prevalence of circumcision § Future as an {{excerpt}} into Circumcision § Future.
  4. You also reverted my edits that corrected the reference in that section (Assaf is not the lead author—Bolnick is—and that's not even his last name—it's Yosha!).
  5. I'm not going to revert your reversion, or else we'll be truly and fully in an edit war, so I please ask you to revert it yourself and let me know what "error" messages you saw.
  — Guarapiranga  21:55, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
The citations show "cite error" (citation error). I think it's because the references in the circumcision article are named differently than those in the prevalence of circumcision. The note in the subsection also becomes broken: probably for different reasons. I'm not presently knowledgeable about Wikicode to fix it. However, if you can figure it out, I support your edits. I don't have a problem with that section of prevalence of circumcision being linked with the circumcision article.
corrected the reference in that section My apologies. I didn't notice that part got added back in the reversion. Feel free to correct it.
Don't consider reverting it (after fixing) an edit war. I don't have an objection with it. The original edit just broke the formatting. KlayCax (talk) 19:51, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of countries by average wage

In your edit of 05:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC) of List of countries by average wage, you converted a 3-column chart to a 1-column chart, and in doing so, you stripped out the second and third <li>...</li> tags and left the first one unclosed, and you stripped out the closing </ul>, leaving the opening tag unclosed. Amazingly, nobody bothered to clean this up until now. I discovered this with the lintHint tool. For more info on lintHint, see WP:linter#User Javascript tool: lintHint. Cheers! —Anomalocaris (talk) 03:07, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Template:Harvard from citation

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Template:Flag+link

Hi. Long time. Please see: Help:Table#Without asterisks. Only one preference

I think you did most of the editing of {{flag+link}}. Would you be interested in updating that template to allow 2 preferences?

Similar to how {{flagg}} allows 2 preferences in Help:Table#Without asterisks after location names.

{{flag+link}} is simpler to use than {{flagg}}. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:27, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Discovered that {{flag+link}} works where {{flagg}} does not. Colspan problem. See Template talk:Flagg#Does not work with colspan and bottom of this section: Help:Table#Adding links to specialized country, state, etc. articles. With asterisk.
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South Africa

The reference only states that South Africa recalled its ambassador (which is not the same as cutting ties). Semsûrî (talk) 21:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

See this article about Bahrain Semsûrî (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
The SA parliament voted today to suspend ties with Israel:Guarapiranga  22:24, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
You need to read the articles you share and stop with the now disruptive editing. The article states: "The resolution is largely symbolic as it will be up to President Cyril Ramaphosa's government whether to implement it; a presidency spokesperson said Ramaphosa "notes and appreciates" parliament's guidance on South Africa's diplomatic relations with Israel, particularly on the status of the embassy." Semsûrî (talk) 22:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Search shortcuts

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23

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Make WhatRedirectsHere work everywhere

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Could line 7 of WhatRedirects here be changed to mw.config.get('wgArticlePath').replace('$1','Special:WhatLinksHere') + ?hidetrans=1&hidelinks=1&target='+encodeURIComponent(mw.config.get('wgPageName')),? This way, the script wouldn't be confined to just enwiki. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:07, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

declining the edit interface request; Guarapiranga is free to make the change themself or not, but this isn't an intadmin matter Writ Keeper  03:54, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
I added the template because they haven’t edited since November, but sure. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:35, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm glad you find the script useful, and wish to globalise it, @Aaron Liu. I haven't been around WP much in the last many months, and don't even remember where it's used or how it works. Please feel free to fork it, edit it, whatever you see fit. Cheers.], so — Guarapiranga  22:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

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